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Michaelhelfert
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Post Number: 594
Registered: 09-2011
| | Posted on Friday, October 14, 2016 - 05:47 am: | 
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I think we can all agree that the largest threat is a 'limited nuclear exchange' with Russia.
A vote for anybody but Donald Trump, at this point, is a vote for war. You may not like him, but the alternative glows green.
Yes, it has come this - the choice between world war and civil war.
Life
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Historeed
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Post Number: 78
Registered: 09-2008
| | Posted on Friday, October 14, 2016 - 05:10 am: |
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Norm,
I understand how you feel about spinning your wheels. Hillary seems determined to pursue a suicidal confrontation with Russia and the media is cheering her on. The corporate-owned Democratic Party has become neoconservative in their foreign policy aims...Bush Jr. would be proud.
Matthew Reed
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Norm3
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Post Number: 86
Registered: 07-2016
| | Posted on Friday, October 14, 2016 - 07:18 pm: |
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Michaelhelfert & Historeed, I hear you guys it seems like a no brainer. If Trump is a disaster its only 4 years & then the Globalists can get the agenda back on track. They are doing everything to stall Brexit. |
Newinitiation
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Post Number: 1704
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Friday, October 14, 2016 - 11:22 pm: |
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Why are we still here?
What is the cause of this problem?
Why can't we fix it or do anything about it?
What is dragging us down?
Who is to blame?
When are we going to do something about it?
How are we going to overcome it?
With what are we going to do something about it? |
Votan
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Post Number: 611
Registered: 12-2011
| | Posted on Saturday, October 15, 2016 - 02:56 pm: |
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Newinitiation
A lot of questions. The simple answer is that we are all different and we all perceive things differently.
If we dig deep and listen to our sub conscious mind and not swayed by mass media and the material realm then we will save this planet.
joe
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Newinitiation
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Post Number: 1705
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, October 15, 2016 - 11:59 pm: |
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Votan/joe thanks for your views.
Its more like instead of listening to our subconscious mind whatever that may mean to various people as they all perceive differently as you say, people are better of listening to the wisdom and knowledge proffered by Billy Meier.
Its simple as that. |
Newinitiation
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Post Number: 1706
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, October 15, 2016 - 11:54 pm: |
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Continuing on from the questions on my post 1704 a thought suddenly came to me as I looked outside the train I was on whizzing past the city
What is the will of the people?
Is there such a thing on planet earth when we are so chaotically divided and fractured into a thousand pieces as a society?
Is there such a thing as a collective will or whether right or wrong or towards collective suicide or collective benefit, the term 'the will of the majority' being just a fancy term for the final decision to do something or nothing resting with what most people want?
But who or what governs for the collective will?
Who sets the boundaries and clear definition of what that is when truly most people don't even know what they want?
When there are so many forces forcing its ideals of what we think we want and need no wonder people are so confused.
Its like telling the masses 'you are too stupid to figure it out so we will do it for you and it doesn't matter that it really serves our own selfish interests just as long as what you think you want complies with what we want you to think you want'
So essentially those who push us to believe that there is a collective will are just using double speak and polly speak to get the masses to do what they stealthily want and its definitely engineered consent.
Ok so where does that leave us.
Well back to the basics of unfetted and unvarnished truth.
The truth that the only collective will and of the majority that truly matters and that has any substance is the one that is based on Creational natural law where any referendum by a society will always reach Plejarenesque 100% majority decision on any number of issues.
So once again the rulers have us by the balls.
They have successfully brainwashed the sheepish masses into believing in Santa Clause God damn Jesus Christ and with fairytales like that no wonder people are phantasmagorified to the point where they are quite literally living in a parallel universe where logic is illogical and the truth becoming all too familiar lies.
Ok even if Billy says we have to create the will to strive at the end of the day the kind of collective will that we the masses have and are creating right now is towards mass catastrophe.
Final conclusion once again always comes down to ignorance of the truth of Creational spiritual knowledge and the Billy Meier's contact case pure and simple which is why there isn't any real collective will to speak about. |
Votan
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Post Number: 612
Registered: 12-2011
| | Posted on Sunday, October 16, 2016 - 06:58 pm: |
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Newinitiation
What do you about the latest with Elon Musk and others trying to say that we are living in a Matrix world.
In a way our physical stay does not last long on this world. That is probably what their scientists are going to find. That is a no brainer.
joe
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Joe
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Post Number: 464
Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 18, 2016 - 03:10 am: |
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According to Billy, the US elections back in 2004 which saw George W. Bush re-elected as president was rigged.
http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/12/4200.html?1107315793#POST13878
New O'Keefe Video: Clinton Campaign, DNC Coordinated With Organizations To Incite Violence At Trump Events
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/10/17/new_okeefe_video_clinton_campaign_dnc_coordinated_with_organizations_to_beat_up_trump_supporters.html
What does this all mean? It means that the US General elections are at least occasionally rigged. |
Newinitiation
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Post Number: 1707
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 18, 2016 - 11:29 am: |
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Votan its a good analogy in my opinion
The whole manmade system we currently have is the (matrix) wool over our eyes that keep us as ignorant, dumb and stupid zombies who are totally reliant on the very thing that is enslaving us.
The oracle (billy) is helping us to ge out of the matrix. |
Newinitiation
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Post Number: 1708
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 18, 2016 - 11:35 am: |
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No Joe its always rigged.
For a starters candidates are already chosen by the powers that be and pumped with massive amount of money plus huge airtime through their propaganda machine so that alone leaves no real choice for the masses except to choose between the lesser of the evil.
Trump is an aberation just like what Jesse Ventura had been. |
Tat_tvam_asi
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Post Number: 444
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Friday, October 21, 2016 - 01:35 am: |
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Chinese „Realpolitik“ - The Takeover of the Pilippines
http://time.com/4539911/us-china-asia-diplomacy-philippines-thailand-japan/
http://www.philstar.com/headlines/2016/10/21/1635809/goodbye-us-hello-china
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/global-opinions/how-rodrigo-duterte-cast-himself-as-an-agent-of-change/2016/10/19/5dd744c0-961a-11e6-bb29-bf2701dbe0a3_story.html?utm_term=.07caf0cca9d7
What is China's strategy to become the No. 1 in world politics?
1. Declarations on human rights ? *)
2. Wars?
3. Double standards?
No, none of those “reactionary paper tiger methods“ **)
For China, simple economics, will do.
China uses her money, the enormous savings power of her people, uses the needs of her large population to buy diplomatic relations via VIP trade relations.
The Philippine Rep. is only one of many countries***) that do thrive or will thrive on the back of Chinese economic relations.
In view of her dominant and growing economic position China plans longterm.
And most of all it does not need wars at all.
In view of the upcoming power confrontation Rand Corp. has already analyzed the options for a war against China.
http://www.rand.org/pubs/research_reports/RR1140.html#download
The „“Philippine Takeover“ is a severe blow for US diplomacy.
Esp. Since it was the country whose court case was to give some credence to western naval forces in the South China Sea.
The takeover just so happened during the election period in the US.
Where a majority of people truly want a change.
But find it hard to find the right person they want to vote for....
Well, just the right time, for Chinese „Realpoliitik“.
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The „no trial“ - Philippine drug dealer killing spree (killings in order to save the lives of drug addicts) opens the door to a cruel lynch/mob mentality.
It stands to reason to reject it.
But what is the record of those that do reject it?
**)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paper_tiger
Paul de Man – „If a cat is called a tiger it can easily be dismissed as a paper tiger; the question remains however why one was so scared of the cat in the first place..”
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One has to see the many archaeological sites in e.g. Cambodia (Siem Reap) that are financed by China to understand why this country will always support China in ASEAN and other political assemblies.
The latest Zeitzeichen quotes the eco-assistance China gives to many African nations and the trade deals that it receives in return.
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- The Philippine President -
Even without foreign intervention, Mr. Duerte, because of his personality and rough style of ruling, is walking along a dangerous path.
Will his friendship with China/Russia protect him?
Or are there some secrete services already busy planning - “Sudden public uprisings“ / Code Word “Philippine Spring“ - “Moderate rebels“, “Economical sanctions“ etc.?
- Future World Politics -
Ptaah warned the western alliance that there is danger brewing if there is no change in their thinking.
Will the western alliance realize – in time - that China and Russia cannot be wallled in?
Will the three major countries meet – in “equalisedness“ – in time – to work out a peaceful accord?
But the true change that mankind is moving to is a change of thinking.
We mentioned many times that superiority thinking - be it religious or political - is behind the many conflicts flaring up on our planet.
We mentioned that equalisedness is the way of the universe and that it is based on a sincere appreciation of all that is created and treating it with equal respect:
http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/13/2635.html#POST79203 |
Tat_tvam_asi
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Post Number: 446
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Saturday, October 22, 2016 - 09:06 pm: |
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Quo vadis Philippines ?
On returning back to the Philippine President Duterte made a different speech ...
What conclusions should we draw?
= Commenting on Pres. Duterte’s speech in China =
https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2016-10-21/the-philippines-just-blew-up-obama-s-asia-pivot
Philippines separation move “jilts” as well H. Clinton:
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/22/us/politics/philippines-china-us-asia-pivot.html?_r=0
= Commenting on his speech back in Manila =
Philippines will keep US ties but not remain subservient or dependent – economically / militarily:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/reuters/article-3862258/Philippines-says-U-S-ties-not-subservient.html
The Washington Post *) seems to portray a president who should respect the people’s will quoting a 2015 survey in which some 92 % of Filipinos had a favourable view of the US and a Manila newspaper claiming that most Filipinos love the US even more than US citizen.
The UK's Daily Mail, too, confirms that according to a poll last Tuesday “far more Filipinos trust the US than China”.
What does the Philippine media make out of their president’s “different speech to different audiences”:
http://www.philstar.com/opinion/2016/10/23/1636366/high-road-china
The Philippine author of this article seems to picture a future, neutral Philippines.
She advises that their president’s “socialistic vision to bridge the gap between poor and rich may not only find support in Russia and China:
“Those Filipinos who lament the end of US protection “are essentially of the oligarchic class”. Chinese investments will change Philippine’s local business scenario – “That is what the local oligarchs fear most...their days are numbered…”
In the political sphere the question is how much credence will the US resp. the Chinese/Russian leaders allot to Pres. Duterte’s speeches.
In the sphere of global truth, however, the power of human thought is much more powerful than any speeches and comments.
Political freedom is built upon religious freedom.
This truth may be missing in the commentaries.
But it will determine the political future of humanity.
Esp. in the Philippines...
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2016/10/22/forget-duterte-the-
philippines-loves-the-u-s/?tid=pm_world_pop_b
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Joe
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Post Number: 465
Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Saturday, October 22, 2016 - 10:46 pm: |
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Back in 2008 Barack Obama had spoken about voter fraud.
http://www.mrctv.org/blog/obama-speaks-rigged-elections-2008 |
Kenneth
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Post Number: 464
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Sunday, October 23, 2016 - 10:53 am: |
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Joe,
One thing that appears to be a constant, all politicians lie and/or distort the truth. It appears that the majority of the general masses do not pick up on this deceptive contrariness. Scores of politicians arrive on the scene with their flock of sceap (sheep) in lock-step with every word the candidates say.
Before the third millennia, instant information was not available; nonetheless, most of these conformists will not call out the discrepancies of their organizers / representatives and would apparently follow them off a cliff without seeing the dangers.
Kenneth |
Norm3
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Post Number: 91
Registered: 07-2016
| | Posted on Sunday, October 23, 2016 - 08:16 pm: |
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Anonymous Message to the United States Government 2016
http://youtu.be/z2WO8qG1Ywk |
Hugo
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Post Number: 288
Registered: 04-2015
| | Posted on Monday, October 24, 2016 - 03:41 pm: |
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Norm, seems the United States Government wants to take away the second amendment the right to bear arms. We know they follow the Meier case and are aware civil wars are likely coming there soon. They would rather fight against it's citizens using pitchforks then guns. |
Votan
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Post Number: 615
Registered: 12-2011
| | Posted on Monday, October 24, 2016 - 11:26 pm: |
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Hugo
It will never happen unlike they did in Australia as they have a solid Constitution.
They still maintain that the Port Arthur massacre was staged.
joe
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Norm3
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Post Number: 92
Registered: 07-2016
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2016 - 06:13 pm: |
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Hugo, I agree they will take the guns. |
Hugo
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Post Number: 289
Registered: 04-2015
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2016 - 07:33 pm: |
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Votan,
I didn't like what they did to guns laws in Australia after Port Arthur. I had to hand in my semi automatic rifle. Now all we can get are pump action guns. |
Norm3
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Post Number: 94
Registered: 07-2016
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 25, 2016 - 09:08 pm: |
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Michael Moore Perfectly Explains Why Trump Will Win
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsPlwhahHAo
I'm in shock and MM is a total leftist! Finally people on the left are waking up to what Trump is all about. |
Tat_tvam_asi
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Post Number: 447
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 26, 2016 - 05:06 am: |
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- 40,000,000 Russians conduct “chemical and nuclear-bomb survival drills”-
According to the “Wall Street Journal” and “The Australian” newspapers, the US is or was about to arm the rebels fighting Assad and Russia in Aleppo – with air defence systems:
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/wall-street-journal/aleppo-assault-drives-us-to-increase-rebel-help/news-story/f7c2494e012790bdcc900432c2b52805
If we add to this today’s Wall Street Journal article:
“After a mistaken strike by U.S.-led coalition warplanes on Syrian troops in September, Russia’s Defense Ministry warned that its air defense systems could shoot down any American plane that threatened its own forces…."
…L. Gudkov: “Most people believe that WW3 (cold phase) has already begun…
http://www.wsj.com/articles/russia-revives-nuclear-shelters-as-cold-war-heats-up-1477301408
It confirms the recent German Focus Magazine’s article headed
“Assad: In Syria rules the smell of WW3 ..”
“ Though there was not yet a direct confrontation between Russian and western forces it is a kind of war between Russia and the West”
Today’s WSJ article mentions further that 40,000,000 (40 million!) Russians conducted a 4- day-“chemical and nuclear-bomb survival drill”, As the “cold war heats up” … Russian government officials had been asked to take their children away from foreign prestige schools.
Sure, some of the tension may be due to the US presidential election period which traditionally is a testing period in global affairs.
But there is as well a deeper aggressive undercurrent. The frostiness and unwillingness to find a peace deal at the recent Genève conference was no accident.
Politeness gives way to roughness - esp. when and where economic pressures dominate:
Many wars were caused by economic pressures.
“Helicopter Money”
Is it the hidden depression of world economies following the GFC?
In the hope of "full employment" all major economies dropped their interest rates, "printed money" thus sparking an excessive and worldwide (building) “boom”.
But is it not a hay fire, out of balance, veiling "desperation" ?
Who will buy / rent the swath of new buildings? Who is able to pay the mortgages if interest rates rise?
"Arms sales to create peace" is another of those false “make believe economic booms”*)
As for Russia, it may well be the economic depression due to sanctions that it is “on a war footing” as e.g. this article says:
http://www.msn.com/en-au/news/world/posturing-russians-to-send-aircraft-carrier-and-fleet-along-the-english-channel/ar-AAiZJrd?ocid=spartanntp
Well, many Russians may think “how long before the West understands what suffering their sanctions cause?”
And it is not only Russia and China that want a change.
Even a large no of western people are very sceptical about their politicians, want them to think of our world with a different attitude.
They want their opinion to be represented in Parliament
They want more equality, more liberty, more unity.
The French Revolution, did it not show that the same thoughts that many people think are a powerful weapon?
The change that is coming may not please the super wealthy.
But like dark clouds gathering on the sky.
The longer they build up the more terrifying the thunder.
“Subdue this world” ….
World leaders should not try to appease the rich classes but analyze and question the excesses in our world - the helicopter money, the building boom, arms sales boom, boom of aggressive computer games that make children "kill their nemies" etc. etc. -
Why can't they discuss these excesses honestly, with the goal of achieving harmony among all humans?
Would they not soon find that the real undercurrent preventing peace in our world is humanity’s false aspiration?
The aspiration to be or to become “superior” to "subdue" other members of Creation including those of their own species.
This aspiration is the opposite to the truth of Creation.
The opposite to the truth that everything is a part all and all are a part of each individual.
That everything is interconnected, turned into one (“uni versus”).
We will not have to fall for a new WW if all mankind is educated to sees our world in unity.
If our children are taught that “Equalised-ness” is the universally correct view.
If teachers teach the oneness and appreciation of all that is created.
If those that teach superiority do not rule.
In short:
If each human being, on a global and individual level, is aware of his true nature.
And his relationship to Creation.
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The latest Zeitzeichen mentions one country allocating 700 billion $/year for defence purposes. |
Votan
Member
Post Number: 617
Registered: 12-2011
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 26, 2016 - 02:45 pm: |
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Bill
Let us change the whole scenario on you last email.
War will not come if we change our thoughts for peace. Cause and effect.
Have peaceful thoughts to all mankind.
joe
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