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Newinitiation
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Posted on Wednesday, November 09, 2016 - 10:54 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Sheila yeah I do hope that Hillary ends up in jail and set a precedent to send a strong message to the warmongering clique in shadowry power that they are not invincible
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Msmichelle
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Posted on Thursday, November 10, 2016 - 04:46 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ilovebilly...... I agree your post are way too long and somewhat confusing...... my point about Trump is that he'll be easily controlled and manipulated..... do not kid yourself in believing he is his own man....will respond more later it's hard to type on a cell phone
MsMichelle
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Msmichelle
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Posted on Thursday, November 10, 2016 - 05:01 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

By the way Daniel I love your post
MsMichelle
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Norm3
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Post Number: 110
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Posted on Thursday, November 10, 2016 - 06:27 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I guess George Soros activated his protest groups last night. BLM & MOVEON.ORG were reported to be at all these protests. Plus all the usual Leftist groups. And plenty of brainwashed College morons. They are going to hound everything Trump does.
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Hendrikus1970
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Posted on Thursday, November 10, 2016 - 06:45 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I belief that Trump should fear for his life !
The powers behind the Reps and Dems are very wicked and made their plans years ago.
If anybody beliefs that they will allow a man llike Trump to mess with this plans then they are dreaming.
Donald Trump already made the mistake to apoint Mike Pence as running mate ( unite the republican party) and this man is a phycopate,criminal brainwashed neocon like hillary ,bush mccain and and and...
So if Trump gets killed then the evil group takes over again trough the likes of Mike Pence ( the new president of the U.S )
Im curious as to what Billy has to say about the victory of Trump and what is in store for Trump and the world
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Msmichelle
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Posted on Thursday, November 10, 2016 - 07:53 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

IloveBilly in reference to your post..... my point is we need to start thinking differently about this information and approach it with a little bit more thought..... maybe we need to get someone inside with this poison known as politics and stress some effective policy changes ....those are just some suggestions do you have any? Distribution of books in american libraries is not that simple .....it requires a process ..... which will allow the hard copy to be available for young minds to find
MsMichelle
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Daniel_l
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Posted on Thursday, November 10, 2016 - 10:25 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I would like to see an unreal situation be worked and formed into a real situation. I call it the 1000 day evolution simulation. What happens is, each and every day we do what we were already have been going to do but condense the period of this exchange into a day.

We obviously need things, many things, we need to see how things play out and take a look at what happens.

So the trump presidency is absolutely necessary, but so is several more like it in the future, we need to physically witness what happens so that we can lay the thing to rest. So during the 1000 days simulation we should have a day where all acts during the presidency are played out, all policies rolled out so that on day 2 they can be rolled back in again, all social exchanges occur as a play, everything to the glass of white spilt on the Whitehouse carpet. The events are on speed, we all get our fill of the events we need to see occur, so that by day 540 we are beginning to get very tired and limited on the possible outcomes. The simulation requires full orchestration, and agreement, consensus from everyone around the world who use these dozen diplomatic buildings which never change. We we have a 4 day war simulation, a spat, an argument, then everyone makes up and this occurs several times, then we introduce on day 541 a rogue situation such as a 1000 day simulation within the 1000 day simulation to see if the staff can cope, it means that every looses their job after 10 days with the exception of the staff that come in to change the setting.

The Idea with this is to just get it out, get it off your chest, lets move on, we can see how many possibilities are available, let's see them in the 5 different combinations, and then let's just get bored of it, so we can use all that tax money to think of a better layout. Even if the government buildings were to move slightly down the road this may be some refreshment, to think this is now the status quo for the next 1500 years is awful cognition.
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Votan
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Posted on Thursday, November 10, 2016 - 11:49 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Newinitiation

There comes a time when the opposition will realise that everything they do is scrutinised.

To have such a voter turnout proves that the people are waking up.

It is time for a change and people power will change it. Only takes a pebble in the water to create a tidal wave.

Watch this space.
joe
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Scoderoni
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Posted on Thursday, November 10, 2016 - 03:47 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I can't believe everyone thinks Trump is the savior here. His environmental policies are atrocious and devastating to the planet. He denies climate change is even occurring!!! In addition he wants to dismantle any progress we have made. when it comes to protecting the planet. He might have a few positive policies but when it comes to the environment it's truly scary.
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Michael_horn
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Posted on Thursday, November 10, 2016 - 05:06 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Regarding Trump, etc., see:

http://theyflyblog.com/2016/08/18/billy-meier-on-americas-coming-civil-wars/

...and linked Meier video.
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Norm3
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Posted on Thursday, November 10, 2016 - 05:30 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Scoderoni, Trump is not the Savior. But some of us are Anti-Globalist/EU. Which at some point Dark Order will ban even Billy's Teachings. The Dark Order needed a wake up call! Even if its a brief one. Or they are even using Trumps victory to cause havoc in the country & install Global Order with Force. The News Media is a total sham. Watch them create problems. The hate for the so-called "Angry White Males" is insane look around online. The Leftwing Media sure seems like definition of the Anti-Logos.

I can't help but think of this.

"First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me." - Martin Niemöller
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Historeed
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Posted on Friday, November 11, 2016 - 04:51 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Trump could be a disaster for the USA & the world-at-large. He simply cannot bring the country together. The hatred seems too entrenched. The only positive I can gleam from all this is perhaps motivation for a true, democratic, peaceful movement can emerge, whereas a Clinton presidency would have lulled most people into the corporate run business-as-usual complacency. I fear for my country.
Matthew Reed
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Votan
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Posted on Friday, November 11, 2016 - 12:00 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Historeed

Obviously you do not look into the history of the Clinton's, if you did then you would not make comments like this.

Now that she lost is when all the trouble will start.We are lulled into a false sense of perceptive.
joe
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Cpl
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Posted on Friday, November 11, 2016 - 07:22 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

One good thing the election has shown is that it was not rigged or stolen from the electorate. The power elite did not want Trump to win, and they also didn't want Obama to win. They have lost the last three elections to the American people. The elite domination is not absolute or total. There is hope.
Chris

Use to the full both the heart and head and never lose either.
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Msmichelle
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Posted on Friday, November 11, 2016 - 09:09 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Great comments. Just remember, even in War there are many living in Peace. I do sense a disaster for the USA and the planet in general, not because of Politics, but because of cause and effect, overpopulation, climate disasters, hidden hands, double-talk (we think one way, but talk another), greed, envy, etc. The Media must take Full Responsibilty for the on-going battles to separate and divide. I've had limited internet service, because I'm moving and I must say, I do feel peaceful when I unplug and go outside.
MsMichelle
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Newinitiation
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Posted on Friday, November 11, 2016 - 04:34 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Not soon enough Votan
The show has just begun and we are still long way off.
There is so much to do and frankly the voting public is out of the loop in the whole political process now even though they have voted its what happens afterwards in the Trump administration that will determine the seed of the future.

The vultures and hyenas will circle around Trump as always and they will do everything to co opt, manipulate, stealthily influence, coerce, entice and cajole him to ek out an outcome most favourable to their special agenda and interests.

Whatever happens within the political arena the masses have no say in.
This is the greatest tragedy of representative governmental system in that politicians who make bad decisions aren't punished immediately by being booted out of office where it doesn't involve corruption or scandal.
By the next election even if they aren't voted in again they would've already done a lot of damage to their constituents and they couldn't care less as poshy high paying jobs are waiting in the wings and life goes on.
In the Mein Kempt Hitler's description of representative government and the western parlimentary system is so poignently put that it still applies today.
I am no fan of Hitler but you've got to give credit where credit is due even to a mass murderer and even Hillary has unwittingly done some good and helped Trump become president.
We owe Hillary a big fat gratitude.
The context in which I say this everyone here will know all too well.
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Tat_tvam_asi
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Posted on Friday, November 11, 2016 - 07:29 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Though his acceptance speech sounded rational - it is hard to tell what the new US President will do.
What ideas he has, what “advice” he receives - what he will be allowed to do..(IMC – S. Serv.) - and how his presidency will mix with his business interests.

Some of the thoughts in people’s minds:

“We are not done yet.”

Overall more people voted for Hillary than for Trump …
So it is no surprise that there is some minor public unrest now.
Not much, but if some further unpopular decisions are added – would it perpetuate into CALEXIT (incl OR/NV/WA) ?

http://www.msn.com/en-au/news/politics/%E2%80%98prediction-professor%E2%80%99-who-called-trump%E2%80%99s-big-win-also-made-another-forecast-trump-will-be-impeached/ar-AAkbR1J?li=AA5249&ocid=spartanntp

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/11/10/politics/calexit-donald-trump/index.html


== Japan and Australia/NZ (atomic shield) and Europe (NATO) ==

Will they lose US protection? How would they react?
http://edition.cnn.com/2016/11/09/politics/world-wary-unpredictable-donald-trump/

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/europe/berlin-backs-jean-claude-juncker-call-for-european-army-1.2863126

== US – China Relation ==

http://www.news.com.au/finance/work/leaders/china-isnt-exactly-backing-hillary-clinton-for-the-us-election/news-story/9b5cf115f6708db3b35ff950a5480142

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-11-10/trump-and-china-us-election-analysis/8011828
http://fortune.com/2016/11/10/donald-trump-china-trade/

== US Russia Relations ==

a) Western media

---Before US Election

VP before the election re. D. Trump:
“Mr. Trump reflects the needs of average people who don’t like that power is transferred by inheritance… He is of course extravagant but this is “his way” to reach the hearts of voters …he represents the opinion of a large part of the US-population that is tired of the elites that are in power for decades…”

http://www.smh.com.au/world/us-election/vladimir-putin-us-hype-on-russia-is-an-election-ploy-20161027-gsclx8.html

---After US Election

http://www.smh.com.au/world/russia-revels-in-donald-trumps-victory-in-us-election-looks-to-sanctions-relief-20161110-gsm9ke.html

b) Russian Media

-Putin congratulating Trump

http://video.heraldsun.com.au/v/528602/RUSSIA-Putin-Congratulates-Trump-Calls-for-Repairing-of-US-Russian-Relations-November-09

-Russian Media Opinion

http://rbth.com/opinion/2016/11/10/a-chance-to-start-afresh-trumps-america-meets-putins-russia_646573

In a nutshell:

There are too many “variables” - it is not possible to make a judgement now.
But the hearts of most people on our planet – in the East and West – they desire peace, honesty and fairness.
And that those monies spent on creating new weapons are saved and used to unite mankind.

Salome,
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Tat_tvam_asi
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Posted on Friday, November 11, 2016 - 07:44 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

New revelations re. JFK assassination:
http://www.news.com.au/finance/work/leaders/new-jfk-assassination-theory-cuban-double-agent-led-plot/news-story/902aea8ef3cd9f546ed470873f66454a
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Learnmore12
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Posted on Saturday, November 12, 2016 - 09:19 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

In terms of the new president, I believe what the P's and Billy are saying, he is dumb and we will have to suffer the consequences of our actions. The future is not going to be pleasant as people think it to be.
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Votan
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Posted on Saturday, November 12, 2016 - 06:17 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Learnmore12

I would not mind being as dumb as he is with his Billions.

That is not dumb, that is smart.

Let us wait and see.
joe
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Daniel_ratajczak
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Posted on Saturday, November 12, 2016 - 06:40 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Learnmore12,
Billy and the Plejaren haven't fully analyzed Trump yet. Billy and Ptaah have yet to sit down and discuss the Plejaren's research on Trump, like they did with Romney back in 2012. If you watched Michael Horn's interview with Billy just a few months ago, he clearly stated, " In my opinion, with Hillary in the White House, the devil is loose, and with Trump, I believe it will be just as dumb".
It's dangerous to mix the mainstream media (including social media) with the contact reports, spiritual teachings, FIGU newsletters, and Zeitzeichen, and quite a few interested individuals do just that.
We have to be very careful to make sure that the mainstream media isn't subconsciously telling us what to think. I truly do believe that Trump was the best outcome out of the four (Hillary, Stein, Johnson), even though he does come with his own problems. Right now, the number one priority to is normalize relations between Russia and the U.S. and cooperatively defeat ISIS once and for all. Trump's opposition to NATO, NAFTA, and American military support in South Korea and Japan is a big plus and is sure to score big points with the Plejaren.
Right now, George Soros (and many other dark order elites) are funding the anti-trump protests. Why do you think that is?
Back in 2008 when Obama was running, there was hardly any opposition towards him on any of the media outlets (at least not on the scale of Trump). For the past two years, dark order elites have been throwing billions of dollars towards stopping Trump, and it doesn't show any sign of stopping.
We do not know Trump's true intentions and his true mentality and personality have been blurred by the fake veil of the mainstream media. All he has said is that he is very flexible on several issues.
He may turn out to be just like Obama, but then again, we can't be for sure 100% this time. There is a reason why the dark order elites are so against him, and that's because they know him much better than most of the general public.
For now, he deserves a solid chance, and we must wait for Billy and Ptaah to sit down and fully analyze the new president of the u.s.
For a preview, read http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_437.
Here, Billy and Ptaah talk about Swiss politician Christoph Blocher who happens to be almost identical to Trump in both resume and policy, and several recent articles in many newspapers have called Christoph Blocher, "Switzerland's Trump".
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Norm3
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Posted on Saturday, November 12, 2016 - 09:33 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hillary Clinton would have caused WW3 - not Trump, says former German politician
http://shr.gs/YCnXn4g
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Hendrikus1970
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Posted on Sunday, November 13, 2016 - 04:37 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

could it be that Billy and the Plejaren also know that it doesnt realy matter anymore who is the president of the U.S / E.U ? why we keep avoiding this elite small group of multinationals that control ,oil,gas,metals,militairy industrial complex,farma,banking,media and and and.
As long as politics can be influenced by lobbist no change is gone come.
War and control over natural resources is big business and politicians can be killed or blackmailed if they dont play along.

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