Archive through November 21, 2016

Author Message Michael_horn Member Post Number: 1242 Registered: 07-2009 Posted on Saturday, November 19, 2016 - 05:05 pm:        Trump: According to Billy Meier and the Plejaren http://theyflyblog.com/?p=4184 There would have been a catastrophic atomic war had Clinton won Norm3 Member Post Number: 123 Registered: 07-2016 Posted on Saturday, November 19, 2016 - 05:32 pm:        I knew it, I knew it. I'm so glad I voted for Trump. I am so relieved. Like I said, Hillary = "The Devil is loose" Trump = "Just as Dumb" The Devil scares me more than Dumb. Stop listening to the controlled Media they are now moving to stop alternative News sources. Msmichelle Member Post Number: 205 Registered: 02-2010 Posted on Saturday, November 19, 2016 - 05:58 pm:        Ilovebilly.... I think it's time you use your real name because that handle is a bit childish as well and I agree with what you posted about politics however no one on this forum is listening..... so my point is to Think a little differently and try different approaches to disseminating this information to others outside this forum.. MsMichelle Newinitiation Member Post Number: 1717 Registered: 07-2005 Posted on Saturday, November 19, 2016 - 06:34 pm:        Trump is already encircled by the vultures and hyenas. The people who will make up his cabinet will conspire against Trump during his presidency. Obama may have already warned him of the facts about who the real bosses are when they met. Trump is in for a surprise beyond even his wildest expectations. Trump is stuck between a rock and a hard place. Conflicted between many external pressures against his philosophies he might have to make many compromises and concessions in light of the gruesome facts he will encounter during his tenure. It does look like many of the campaign promises he has made will inevitably be broken even before he has started his presidency. Look after your family Trump the job of POTUS isn't what its cracked up to be. Votan Member Post Number: 638 Registered: 12-2011 Posted on Saturday, November 19, 2016 - 07:46 pm:        Newinitiation I am sure that Trump is not stupid. Being in business for a long time has taught him well. joe Votan Member Post Number: 639 Registered: 12-2011 Posted on Saturday, November 19, 2016 - 07:49 pm:        Msmichelle Comments like that are childish. It is still a free forum and everybody is entitled to speak their mind including you. joe Tat_tvam_asi Member Post Number: 464 Registered: 04-2011 Posted on Saturday, November 19, 2016 - 08:46 pm:        Ptaah re. “The Election“ ... Taken fr. CR 663 of Nov 6, 2016 – as published in German in the latest, just published Zeitzeichen) Below the major points of Ptaah's insights (snippets only, not a 1:1 translation) NB Billy was told the e-result before (30-06-1016) but he had to be silent about it) - It would have been dangerous if the result was made public before: Life threatening attacks on T, manipulation of the election results, etc. T would not have received much support from his own party either because his real political thoughts are his own thoughts – so in truth his is a “1-man-party”. - T may be a little chaotic and “catastrophic”. But - apart from that - he is “well-meaning” *), not sinister, as well in his view of Russia and VP, in relation to which he strives for – in an honest way – a military and economical consensus. This is in contrast to his election opponent who had war thoughts for a long time, as an enemy of Russia and Putin. So if T would have lost a nuclear war may have been unavoidable. - Naturally the world will be shocked by the T win because his way of speaking is not very cultivated. But he has good approaches to various issues which he wants to realize if his advisers and others**) do not prevent him from doing so. - Should T, however, succeed with his ideas, then he will fight against globalism, abandon the previous policies of interfering in many other countries which led to a neglect of home affairs. Instead, T’s idea is to re-build the internal order. - But only time will tell if he can realize his ideas or if he, too, cannot realize his ideas because of those around the president wielding the power. In addition – he is more a businessman than a politician. - The EU may quickly get in contact with T to re-establish the special ties they had before, trying to re-create the powerful political, economical and military union they previously had. *) - T is not stupid, nor the “bad person” as is the perception of his many adversaries which do not support him because they all do not know about the crafty thoughts in the back of the mind of his opponent which would have ended in a worldwide catastrophe. - T may be wrongly informed about some matters, like climate change and Obama Care. But there is hope that he may change his mind for the better. **) Those, who want to direct him around, in accordance with their own schemes ============== The latest Figu-Zeitzeichen publishes as well a pointy comment from VP (as well only snippets) re. the political disillusionment of many western people: “The people feel there is a huge gap between their interests and the goals that the elites ***) set for themselves… They realize they have no real influence or means to change events and policies… They are furious because their politicians serve the elites not the people and that in doing so they sometimes even undermine the national interests …The question has to be asked who really rules…” "...Against the elites stand the great majority of people who want simple things – stability, the free development of their nations, perspectives for themselves and the life of their children and most fundamentally the security of their lives and loved ones." ***) Supra national oligarchy which the people did not vote for nor are able to control. Kenneth Member Post Number: 493 Registered: 04-2013 Posted on Saturday, November 19, 2016 - 10:04 pm:        Billy's statement, Trump is "Just as Dumb" was not meant to mean; stupid, unintelligent, dense, brainless, mindless etc. It appears to have meant, ignorant of Creational Laws and associated Cause and Effect. Kenneth Newinitiation Member Post Number: 1718 Registered: 07-2005 Posted on Sunday, November 20, 2016 - 02:40 am:        Votan by no means is he stupid as in the style of the Dumb and Dumber movie. Just as dumb may have meant by Billy to mean that on many occasions Trump with his narcissistic tendency and ego mania said thing about people that were insensible, rude, crude, denigrating, hurtful and simply idiotic. He may also be a little too trusting and susceptible to subtle influences by people who suck up to him with their ingratiating sugar coated words and by the yes men parrots who tells him what he wants to hear. So if Trump doesn't get his huge ego and his head full of himself in check he might just become easy prey for the vultures and hyenas around him who will use every psychological trick and manipulation technique in the book to make him believe that what he is doing is out of his own volition when instead it was consciously guided by others to serve their own selfish interests. I think his joint chief of staffs will make an easy meal out of him where the MIC will benefit tremendously with Trumps already enthusiastic approval for more military spending to make the US military great again. The CIA will also continue to instigate one crisis after another as they have always done especially in the middle east and also in EU countries to set a pretext for the Pentagon to waste billions of more dollars buying up weapons, munitions, tanks, submarines, nuclear weapons program, fighter jets, destroyers, missiles and what not from the MIC private defence contractor companies as well as from BP, EXXON, Royal Dutch Shell and so on. It will just be the usual business as usual. I also think that Trump will definitely anger alot of latinos especially Mexicans with his great wall of mexico whereby many of them will riot and cause an LA style riot of the 90's fame which may be one among the several reasons why the US civil war will start. I believe that from lessons learnt from the past there would more than likely be many private contractor run false flag operations in the US soil under the Trump administration to weaken it and New Orleans style natural disaster for profit as well as a further Clinton conspired disasters as vengence against Trump if he does the unthinkable by going after Hillary and the Clinton foundation. Rolling walls of fire as act of war in HP may not necessarily mean bush fires or forest fires but a detonation of a nuclear device either by shadow government organised inside job or shadow government conspired Islamic terror attack by terrorists patsies As the HP states 911 was just the beginning. So everything is still up in the air and there are infinite possibilities. But I do think that Billy gave people a hint when he answered that things could get better and juxtapose this with 251's passage where unemployment and economic problems get solved this I think suggests that if Trump gets reelected in 2020 then there is much hope for the positive that the impending civil wars will be averted along with WW4. The above passage also suggests that the citizens of various countries around the world being so sick and tired of all the corruption by their respective government and the political system will have their own unique BREXIT and Trump revolutions and have their own drain the swamp events where the house does get cleaned up with better people voted in. Protest like the one happening in South Korea will be many as everything reaches its climax where a point of no return is reached and with it some positive change. Norm3 Member Post Number: 124 Registered: 07-2016 Posted on Sunday, November 20, 2016 - 08:28 am:        Must read articles. How about a News posting section that relates to Billy's info? Poor Liberals, Nobody to Blame But Themselves http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/11/11/poor-liberals-nobody-to-blame-but-themselves/ Veteran Reporter Exposes The New York Times’ Arrogant, Disconnected, Agenda Driven Perspective https://libertyblitzkrieg.com/2016/11/11/veteran-reporter-exposes-the-new-york-times-arrogant-disconnected-agenda-driven-perspective/#more-39578 Hawaiian Member Post Number: 251 Registered: 05-2011 Posted on Sunday, November 20, 2016 - 11:53 am:        Some people like myself do not use our real name for particular reasons. I for myself use this name Hawaiian for redirection to my people's misrepresentations and to avoid being forced into some black operations order while I was in the military and now that I'm retired, decided to keep that Hawaiian name. I'm sure others have their own reasons and that is their perogative. Hugo Member Post Number: 294 Registered: 04-2015 Posted on Sunday, November 20, 2016 - 04:52 pm:        Norm, you were right! And some here were giving you a hard time too. Votan Member Post Number: 640 Registered: 12-2011 Posted on Sunday, November 20, 2016 - 06:03 pm:        Hawaiian I agree with you. What is the big deal about using real names.Mine Votan is a important historical person. joe Ilovebilly Member Post Number: 499 Registered: 04-2011 Posted on Sunday, November 20, 2016 - 08:04 pm:        I think i made my point msmichelle all i said was straight from cnotes thats all sorry if it made you feel bad, its not my intention, we have all been there, its same as religion and childish [politics] BUT what i said was The Truth,never curse the truth before i read the teaching i was into politics too if i quote figu teaching and u get defensive and change topic what does that say? did u have hopes for figu to get into politics? is that it? please consider what has been said was not an attack, you wanted it shorter, the longer post you said was confusing and too many words you can call me Peter if you like, ilovebilly is my nic,its ok to have a nic on a forum,figu knows my name anyway and i DO Love Billy, yessy yessy yessy so its not a bad nic to have, its strange my nic bothers you but other nics dont, not that i would change it anyway,its a guide,its an inner thing i know about names and what our mates said,u dont realise adding just 1 letter changes its value, msmichelle could have a negative value (not being smart,if u must know about names, maybe u need to look at your nic,not mine) also who made u the nic police anyway its funny now you see something i said on the net u dont like, or its just you took my post as a negative and r emotional then trying to change the topic?,why mention it now? msmichelle Who made u the forum police anyway eh eh, are u one of the 49! logic,calm the storm within,u can do it L just admit the Truth,evolve from it be the child again girl,Love love love,let the veil of dark feelings fade, shine the figu will be known for wisdom, the politicians will ask for advice Salome ilovebilly My name is Peter Soper some say i am slippery i do like Elvis Presley i also like Skywalker and maybe even Yoda ;-) some call me the cleaner also known as the fracker if i changed my nic it would cause a stir some might call me sir soon u will know my name and i wont need to say Every Cloud Has A Silver Lining. Truly, I know that there is no resistance to my successes, also not in my thoughts and not in my imagination and also not in my feelings. 77 Being emotional is not logical but is temporary madness and you are either logical or mad not both, i am grateful for my emotions but need to control them. Norm3 Member Post Number: 125 Registered: 07-2016 Posted on Sunday, November 20, 2016 - 09:27 pm:        Hugo Thanks. If more people did their own research rather than listen to the Mainstream Media it's all out there. Most people didn't even listen to Trumps own words they relied on the Orwellian propaganda. It's not over yet the attacks on Trump & everything he does will be endless. They have reverted to racism for everything now. It's their last resort. Historeed Member Post Number: 81 Registered: 09-2008 Posted on Monday, November 21, 2016 - 07:07 am:        Norm, I'd like to apologize to you for questioning your motifs on Trump a while back. It seems I have been duped by the US media. This has been a real eye-opener for me as I take racism, xenophobia, etc very seriously - as it should be...however, it has become clear to me that racism, xenophobia, etc. is used as a weapon by those in power against the people in order to blind us and divide us. I will continue to fight against racism, xenophobia, etc, but will try harder to discern the reality of each situation prior to lashing out. Matthew Reed Msmichelle Member Post Number: 208 Registered: 02-2010 Posted on Monday, November 21, 2016 - 08:15 am:        I love Billy ....trust me, I do not get offended by anything that is said to me or anything that's done to me because I come from a background of law enforcement.... plus I'm a woman of color and I have heard and seen more things than you guys can ever imagine..... if anyone should have any fear it is Michael Horn ...Michael Horn has the courage to go out there and disseminate this information without the fear that most of you claim to have...... some of you want to believe that you're more important than you are...... MsMichelle Msmichelle Member Post Number: 209 Registered: 02-2010 Posted on Monday, November 21, 2016 - 08:32 am:        Also let me clarify I currently work in the field of law enforcement and as you all are aware...some citizens hate the police .....so I can more than stand up for myself but that's not the point.... the point here is that we need to focus on this important material and if you're going to carry-on and comment on Michael Horn blog and give your full name why not give you a full name here? MsMichelle Norm3 Member Post Number: 126 Registered: 07-2016 Posted on Monday, November 21, 2016 - 03:42 pm:        Historeed, Thanks I was more puzzled that some didn't even consider the positive side of Trump. I have to call it the way I see it. Now we have to hope the forces that be don't destroy Trump. Here's a little positivity. Riots are Waking up Students to the Truth of Trump https://youtu.be/SFoIP045FMY Justsayno Member Post Number: 753 Registered: 10-2009 Posted on Monday, November 21, 2016 - 04:21 pm:        Hey Norm, same thing happened here when people believe the media is "reporting" the news. Those days are long gone. A good rule of thumb is if you can tell who a journalist is going to vote for, then you know their "reporting" is going to be biased. Good, better, best. May you never rest, until your good is better, and your better best. Norm3 Member Post Number: 127 Registered: 07-2016 Posted on Monday, November 21, 2016 - 05:04 pm:        Kenneth, "Billy's statement, Trump is "Just as Dumb" was not meant to mean; stupid, unintelligent, dense, brainless, mindless etc. It appears to have meant, ignorant of Creational Laws and associated Cause and Effect. I saw it as meaning Just as dumb a choice & also mean Trump is just as Dumb as Hillery. A kind of duel meaning. It was a way to not give to much away. But calling someone the Devil said alot too me. Tyler_rutland Member Post Number: 41 Registered: 01-2016 Posted on Tuesday, November 22, 2016 - 08:50 am:        I like you Michelle .. I wish we had a law officer in Toronto who went into the spirit teaching seriously.. I lived like a homeless person yesterday for the 2nd day in a row for my lesson in the truth-teaching place and it's cold out there.. but, there are some nice people too. At times, when I was the most cold and trying to warm up in places, I felt like all I wanted most was somebody to listen to their heart instead of their head, and have their head be filled about the Creation instead of cruel laws. Hey Norm, I was tempted to be disagreeing.. but, that's cool. Does it show us any signs of creational laws taking place..? Hmm.. People were on the side of the outraged people.. then the outrage of their own group was their own defeat. It made them go to the other side instead.. when they saw the true attitude. The "peaceful group" lost because they weren't really peaceful. Ilovebilly Member Post Number: 502 Registered: 04-2011 Posted on Monday, November 21, 2016 - 07:51 pm:        Gday Msmichelle, my Post Number: 498 i thought u might realise politics is not the way,not try n change topic re: law enforcement background; what does that have to do with anything? really msmichele, i dont see what a persons skin colour has to do with anything either,lost the argument i think u need to leave your badge off when u are here, we are equals, we dont enforce anything here Love, our job and colour not in the equation,all jobs are equal too (The Figu) mods police here :-) = The Creations Law = party for figu folks ;-) many figu folks are like the Phantom shining a light through history, un-named, unknown, (no nic) but storage banks bring them home ;-) my birth name its Peter Soper and i do use it on figu forum (if I deem it necessary I do), we use whatever name we like, When We Like reading other of your posts you demand all figu folks names? and you demand/think its best they do??? or they are cowards. Have a think about what you are saying for a moment, as a third person, (The Figu Mods also told u) often when we point the finger at others its ourselves we need to look at first, its an inner thing to consider first, its a mirror,if u retake control of your emotions the logic returns, master the inner world, calm the storm,self evolution if my post 498 on politics upset you its not my intention, most of us know its the truth, we are entitled to our opinions chit chat and links, Norm has been filtering out a lot of the lame stream media perspectives and maybe Trump n Putin are Jedi Masters working on impulse ;-) Jokes thanks for the links Norm politics is like a religion, religious thinking brings religious reaction to being told the truth look inside for the answer, nobody is attacking you my intention is to shed light on our focal points and politics isnt even in the picture, we have opinions about politics but continue our meditations/study,the politicians will eagerly seek advice from The Figu, not the other way around, they do read cnotes so are learning, some like Putin seem to know allready and i havent made any comments on Michael Horns blog Now lets get back to topic: re post Msmichelle Member Post Number: 191 Hopefully once this USA election is over, we can decide as a group to enact some changes such as : 2-Finding individuals with experience regarding creating "effective policy changes"? 3-Promoting individuals to run for public office, starting small and building from there? Otherwise, we're keep this on-going spinning cycle of debates, arguments, divisiveness, etc. for the next 4 years, and beyond. my reply was from cnotes Politics are only operated by human life forms who are still very foreign to the truth and who look at, consider, and handle all things in childish aspects. Politics is childish debates, arguments, divisiveness, etc what did u have in mind msmichelle? please explain,neutral positive Salome ilovebilly Every Cloud Has A Silver Lining. Truly, I know that there is no resistance to my successes, also not in my thoughts and not in my imagination and also not in my feelings. 77 Being emotional is not logical but is temporary madness and you are either logical or mad not both, i am grateful for my emotions but need to control them.

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