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Corey
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Post Number: 1243
Registered: 12-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, August 04, 2016 - 10:59 pm: | 
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Stefan,
While I do not personally visit, nor utilize the English Wiki on Billy Meier, I can see how this outright slander, and defamations can negatively impact the people you are in contact with, who are needlessly setting aside the Geisteslehre, because of what they read, as fraud on the Wiki.
What really "gets my goat", is how the "Book of Witnesses" is never fairly, and impartially investigated by Mahigitam, and publically commented on, I mean some of these witnesses passed lie detector tests. I have posted this point many times, and never as much as a response from the guilty. i suppose such an investigation would mean Mahigitam could no longer be an "armchair investigator", but would have to become a real investigator, and travel to Switzerland to met, and speak with those parties that are still actually living, and perhaps even face Billy (who is a man of honour), the very man Mahigitam has been defaming for years, not only publicly defaming, but also using his (Mahigitam's) dishonourable skills to draw others into this trap.
I suppose it is as they say: "the truth is unalterable", and there are not enough shovels to bury the truth. Whether terrestrial humanity one day lives in accordance with the truth, and in accordance with the laws and recommendations of Creation, or not, at least other peoples, belonging to other planets, in many of the other galaxies, and universes, have already figured out everything our planet lacks, when it comes to their particular situation of living by the laws and recommendations of the Creation.
mental-block: consciousness, thoughts, feelings, psyche.
consciousness-block: character, personality, subconsciousness, ego, memory. "Teaching Script" page 124
ratio: intellect, rationality, sageness (true discernment), morals. "The Psyche" page 216
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Salome/Corey Müske
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Scott
Moderator
Post Number: 2632
Registered: 12-1999
| | Posted on Friday, August 05, 2016 - 03:28 am: |
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Please lets get back to the topic of the "Environment" |
Stefan_z2
Member
Post Number: 114
Registered: 12-2014
| | Posted on Friday, August 05, 2016 - 05:21 am: |
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Hi,
Will do my best to obey to Scott’s call to order, back to topic. Let me anyhow sprinkle in a fitting experience of this week, in respect of nowadays information suppression practices ;-)
I had been astonished, when during the previous weekend reading the newest press release from Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research.
https://www.pik-potsdam.de/news/press-releases/climate-disasters-increase-risk-of-armed-conflict-in-multi-ethnic-countries
That institution is totally dependent on German governmental monies. Them daring to find out, if there might be a linkage between multi-ethnicity in the form of fractions in a single country, extreme climate events and outbreak of open violence surprised me. And as you can read in the text, heterogeneous populations in one nation do no good, certainly not in times of difficulties. Pretty much confirming what we students of the teaching knew already from the contact reports.
Guess what happened then, when me a couple of days later citing the study in a comment under an online article (government warning about the economic consequences of climate change) of the major German news magazine Spiegel? My comment drew an analogy to Merkel’s dangerous mass migration experiment, with the potential of resulting in parallel societies in Germany. Yeap, comment erased and user account locked. Inconvenient truths, at times when first attacks by imported terrorists occur.
Salome,
Stefan |
Michael_horn
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Post Number: 1190
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Friday, August 05, 2016 - 07:11 am: |
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Thanks David,
I have posted a number of things there pertaining to this and the Meier information. |
Kenneth
Member
Post Number: 376
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Saturday, August 06, 2016 - 03:30 pm: |
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Watchdog,
Regarding our future environment, this Pig/man reminds me of the movie, "Splice".
"The future will hold nothing positive pertaining to scientists because they will have begun to perform their first genetic manipulations on humans and animals". . .
As Ptaah said;
"Unfortunately, on the planet Earth there are, in all governments, undergovernments, offices, administrations and branches of government and so in all very important key positions, there is a preponderance of human beings who are might-greedy, paranoid psychopaths, who are recognized as such neither by their co-workers nor by the public."
Makes a person kind of wonder if the directors of this film may have received impulses from the Plejaren?
Kenneth
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=older+movie%2c+splice&view=detail&mid=ADAC46E24520C8F102B1ADAC46E24520C8F102B1&FORM=VIRE0&mmscn=tpvh&ru=%2fsearch%3fq%3dolder%2520movie%252C%2520splice%26qs%3dn%26form%3dQBRE%26pq%3dolder%2520movie%252C%2520splice%26sc%3d2-19%26sp%3d-1%26sk%3d%26cvid%3d6FF33B9D767A4ABE8643DB4267ADBE8A
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Kenneth
Member
Post Number: 389
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Friday, August 19, 2016 - 01:53 am: |
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A friend sent me this information on “Sink Holes” that was found on the web.
The Electric Universe Theory, or Plasma Cosmology accounts for the unprecedented phenomenon of Sink Holes according to Hannes Alfven.
This is a new one and looks like so much disinformation; absolutely absurd! Someone went to a lot of work and expense to throw up this smoke screen to hide the true facts of Sink Holes. So the Earth is slowing its rotation? Has anybody noticed the days getting longer than normal? The answer is a resounding No! This is absolute nonsense!
The true facts are much simpler and explains the real reason for the disinformation. This is simply “Cause and Effect”, created by what?
The “Cause”, all over the planet for over 100 years there has been mining of various ores, extraction of oil, extraction of gas, extraction of water etc., etc.
The “Effect”, the Earth is simply caving in from removal of all of this product, it’s as simple as that. The multi-trillion dollar companies that do the majority of this mining and extraction do not want the truth to get out for obvious reasons.
The so called cause is so illogical and irrational that these multi-trillion dollar organizations would make up some phrase as Plasma Cosmology created by the sun to explain sink holes? This is just as bad as religion; direct peoples attention away from the real issue.
“Slowly the Earth collapses from within”. Are we now seeing this starting to happen in countries that exploit the Earth beneath them? Clearly, the Earth has to collapse from within to create the sinkholes. What does the future hold regarding all this? I will leave it up to you, the reader, to think, and possibly do something, about it. Keep in mind, as the populations grow and removal of product increases so will sink holes, earthquakes etc.
Semjase:
56. A mining of ore or of other minerals on a planet or any other star, we only do in extreme cases of emergency, because this process equates to a destruction of a planet.
57. A planet or other star is never allowed to be exploited in this manner, as this occurs on the Earth.
58. What Earth Man is doing in this regard equates to a destruction of the planet.
59. The first evil effects of this destruction on the Earth are already noticeable for several decades, while the present time already prepares the labor pains for the destruction.
60. That is to be understood in this way, that Earth Man exploits his planet and robs it of the fundamental life energy, in that he robs from it the underground oil and gas and the most diverse ores.
61. This leads to the fact that the Earth suffers shifts within, which leads to enormous volcanic eruptions and earthquakes, because slowly the Earth collapses from within.
HOLES - A Scary Worldwide phenomenon
https://www.youtube.com/embed/TLUgEXI9RYI?rel=0
Kenneth |
Votan
Member
Post Number: 550
Registered: 12-2011
| | Posted on Friday, August 19, 2016 - 03:14 pm: |
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Kenneth
Your explanation sounds good,but on the other hand why was is it all there if not for humans to use.
Unfortunately we do not do it the right way that is the problem.We carve it out, we have to fill it in.
joe
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Kenneth
Member
Post Number: 390
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Friday, August 19, 2016 - 06:24 pm: |
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Votan,
What should we fill in the voids with after mining a large cavern or removing millions of barrels of oil; old cars? Would we not have to mine something else to fill in the voids? Sea water does not sound like a good option.
Like Semjase said, they only perform "mining of ore or of other minerals on a planet/. . . / in extreme cases of emergency, because this process equates to a destruction of a planet."
Here is another way to look at it. Someone is constructing a large building with various materials, in the process some of the materials have run out; so you take some of the materials from other locations in the large building to continue the project, sooner or later that building will collapse.
Nonetheless, you have a valid question; what do the Plejaren manufacture their spaceships with if some sort of mining is not used for materials?
Apparently some of the material used for beamship construction is a combination of crystal combined with metal or special metal alloys? |
Corey
Member
Post Number: 1255
Registered: 12-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, August 20, 2016 - 12:55 am: |
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Kenneth,
That explanation your friend sent you sounds preposterous. You wrote a nice post on the cause and effect of the situation (sink holes re: the Earth "collapsing from within"). Here's Billy's verbatim comments on Earth's mining situation:
March 26, 2012:
Human beings need precious metals etc. to improve their technology. Terrestrial humankind has not yet received a technological level where it is possible to develop all necessary elements from electrons.
Mining in the extent as it is happening today on Earth is "wrong" (= excessive). Cause: the overpopulation catastrophe.
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I am assuming this is how the Plejaren get by with little mining, producing the necessary elements for beamships from electrons.
mental-block: consciousness, thoughts, feelings, psyche.
consciousness-block: character, personality, subconsciousness, ego, memory. "Teaching Script" page 124
ratio: intellect, rationality, sageness (true discernment), morals. "The Psyche" page 216
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Salome/Corey Müske
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Votan
Member
Post Number: 551
Registered: 12-2011
| | Posted on Saturday, August 20, 2016 - 12:26 am: |
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Kenneth
Everything in moderation is what I meant.
Money and religion goes hand in hand ,too much is bad.
joe
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Kenneth
Member
Post Number: 391
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Saturday, August 20, 2016 - 10:53 am: |
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Corey,
Ah, you just answered another question regarding, "where do the Plejaren get their materials from to build their spaceships?"
"develop all necessary elements from electrons."
Yes, this knowledge would save our environment; unfortunately, in today's world, certain governments or groups would turn this technology in weapons. Good information, thank you.
Salome
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Kenneth
Member
Post Number: 392
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Saturday, August 20, 2016 - 10:43 am: |
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Votan,
OK, understand what you mean then "in moderation".
To identify a group of humans that used the environment the way they were supposed to for the most part, would be the American Indian "the Red Race". They flowed with and understood the environment and nature.
I have never come across an account where the Red Race tried to accumulate wealth of any sort, other than knowledge and wisdom. Yes they had their feuds with other tribes; that's a different issue.
Kenneth |
Votan
Member
Post Number: 552
Registered: 12-2011
| | Posted on Saturday, August 20, 2016 - 08:40 pm: |
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Kenneth
It is good when we use our brains and bring civilisation forward. The natives were happy to live the way they wanted, that is not progress.
If they were educated and not in religion they might not have fought ,but then the aggressive gene showed up.
joe
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Kenneth
Member
Post Number: 394
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Saturday, August 20, 2016 - 09:04 pm: |
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Votan,
You bring up a good point, "The natives were happy to live the way they wanted, that is not progress." The American Indians were not interested in technology, science or advanced chemistry.
Can a person attain high spirituality without this knowledge? The American Indians did not keep written records; most knowledge about them comes from folklore. |
Cpl
Member
Post Number: 810
Registered: 08-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, August 20, 2016 - 09:18 pm: |
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Let us not forget that one has to fight to preserve one's life if there is no other way and one's life is threatened.
Chris
Use to the full both the heart and head and never lose either.
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Watchdog
Member
Post Number: 116
Registered: 12-2014
| | Posted on Thursday, September 08, 2016 - 05:36 am: |
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To everyone.
Cause and affect in real time.
If the prophecies or predictions say we could have an oxygen collapse in the future.
Shouldn't we start NOW by organizing tree planting policies ?
If half of the people on earth planted a tree twice a year that would be 8 billion trees.
In ten years that would amount to 80 billion trees.
50 yrs would be nearly a half a trillion trees.
And it can be nearly cost free by simply cloning a tree in your yard. Make a dirt ball around a branch with a plastic bag, with holes poked in it. In a few weeks or maybe two months that dirt bag would be full of roots.
Bam. A cost free tree.
Suggestions ? 
David AKA Watchdog. USA
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Watchdog
Member
Post Number: 117
Registered: 12-2014
| | Posted on Friday, September 09, 2016 - 12:57 pm: |
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More about trees.
Contact Report 119
57 A full-grown coniferous tree of the fir kind produces a quantity of oxygen every 24 hours that is needed for 12 adult human beings to live and breathe.
58 For the second question, if you make a comparison with an oak tree of 100 years of age, then 2,563 young trees of the same kind are needed to produce as much oxygen as the full-grown tree.
David AKA Watchdog. USA
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Michaelhelfert
Member
Post Number: 586
Registered: 09-2011
| | Posted on Monday, September 12, 2016 - 04:14 pm: |
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David, I think your idea of FIGU-promoted silviculture is merit-worthy. It certainly emphasizes the importance of environmental remediation.
Life
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Stefan_z2
Member
Post Number: 124
Registered: 12-2014
| | Posted on Monday, September 12, 2016 - 08:32 pm: |
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Hi,
Am certainly one of those loving to walk in a forest.
The posts remind me of an article I came across during the weekend. Reforestation in the currently still typical way falls short. See that…
http://wws.princeton.edu/news-and-events/news/item/seeing-forest-trees-worlds-largest-reforestation-program-overlooks
And while at it, I did actually already share the following report within my networks, stressing that there can hardly be any better prove of the fact that demand and supply on this planet are way out of sync. Seeing this reality, how can someone possibly continue to argue that better tech would be all that we need for entertaining endless population growth?
https://newsroom.wcs.org/News-Releases/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/9254/Study-A-Tenth-of-the-Worlds-Wilderness-Lost-since-the-1990s.aspx
Salome,
Stefan |
Watchdog
Member
Post Number: 117
Registered: 12-2014
| | Posted on Tuesday, September 13, 2016 - 06:40 am: |
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Thanks everyone.
Im a firm believer in cause and affect. If trees cause oxygen. Then that affect is worth pushing forward.
My concern is semi fold. We all need oxygen. Tree's consume Co2 and I and or we all will be reincarnated in the future and I sure don't want to be placed in a world that is short of oxygen.
I once heard a story of a young boy who questioned an old man who was planting an apple tree. The young boy asked. "Why bother planting an apple tree when you won't be here to enjoy its fruits?" The old man replied. "These apples aren't for me. They're yours" Wink.
What we do today will affect ourselves in the future. Pay it forward. Plant a tree.
David AKA Watchdog. USA
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Stefan_z2
Member
Post Number: 128
Registered: 12-2014
| | Posted on Sunday, October 30, 2016 - 06:31 am: |
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Hi,
A new study and a number of interesting news clips. The displayed complacency is puzzling when like me living in a seriously fine-dust polluted country and area, where things are still getting worse. And just for your information, the cited nonbinding decision by the German parliament foresees a stop of sale for newly produced fossil burning cars starting in 2030. Thus by no means an end of those polluters on the streets.
Salome,
Stefan
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http://newsroom.cumc.columbia.edu/blog/2016/10/26/pollution-exposure-higher-city-kids-active-finds-study/
We continue receiving new studies on harm for our children, direct linkage to diseases, early death, etc. Fortunately, the point of everyone admitting
http://dornsife.usc.edu/news/stories/2447/as-incomes-rise-in-china-so-does-concern-about-pollution/
that we have a very serious problem with burning fossils has been passed. But instead of a sad targeting of symptoms in various forms, examples
http://www.tribuneindia.com/news/delhi/pollution-solution-delhi-to-install-roadside-air-purifiers/316333.html
and
https://www.tue.nl/en/university/news-and-press/news/27-10-2016-air-purification-in-parking-garages-reduces-particulate-matter-by-up-to-half-in-eindhoven/
or eventual maybe-action as late as 2030
https://www.yahoo.com/news/sweden-wants-eu-switch-emission-free-cars-2030-165611581.html?ref=gs
it would be helpful to be insightfuller. Or to say it in the words of today’s earlier posting: make better use of the prefrontal cortex. |
Benhilo
Member
Post Number: 21
Registered: 02-2012
| | Posted on Thursday, November 17, 2016 - 12:56 pm: |
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I remember reading something about the BP Gulf of Mexico spill and how the damage was greatly more than what was reported.I tried to search for the material but came up empty. Does anyone recall this discussion or report or bulletin or contact report? If you do could you point me in the right direction. Thanks ..
Salome |
Andrew_grimshaw
Member
Post Number: 6
Registered: 08-2014
| | Posted on Friday, November 18, 2016 - 05:08 am: |
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Benhilo
I found this:
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/The_Crime_Against_All_Life
FIGU Special Bulletin 55, August 2010.
Hope that helps. |
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