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Author Message Msmichelle Member Post Number: 210 Registered: 02-2010 Posted on Tuesday, November 22, 2016 - 12:08 pm:        Ilovebilly .....nice to meet you Peter. ...I think What I'm doing basically offline is working on how to get the hard copy of "GOTT" in America libraries for young minds to find....or old minds I have work for years to disseminate this information to my community of upbringing however due to intense religious infatuation that task is extremely difficult I have reached out to Close Associates of members in government positions ...hoping to hear from someone soon..... I'm hoping to make it mandatory the young minds are taught the German Language well as...... Spanish is the dominant language taught here..at least in the state of Florida MsMichelle Tyler_rutland Member Post Number: 42 Registered: 01-2016 Posted on Tuesday, November 22, 2016 - 04:53 pm:        Don't share anymore Michelle.. Nice work.. really I hope you succeed. Amusing how you said 1 opinion though, and then were interrogated in a "thousand-jabs style", but still you were called emotional. Who is more with the pretending to be more than they are side eh? Kenneth Member Post Number: 497 Registered: 04-2013 Posted on Tuesday, November 22, 2016 - 06:37 pm:        Norm3, Yes, I can see your point of view as well, makes sense. As far as Trump is concerned; viewing the manipulative news network, if true, it appears that the Donald has already been compromised is some way; previously, all this talk about Hillary going to jail and all of her highly illegal activities including money laundering through the Clinton Foundation . . . . ; Trump all of a sudden decided that he will not push for prosecution on Hillary or any of her illegal activities. http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2016/11/22/donald-trump-hillary-clinton/94266466/ Tyler_rutland Member Post Number: 43 Registered: 01-2016 Posted on Tuesday, November 22, 2016 - 07:25 pm:        Ugh, OK. Now I feel like a jerk. Don't listen to my above post because that was my inner demon. Can we just discuss this problem openly? I feel like the actual people who should be getting along, aren't. And it looks to me like we aren't exercising our harmony, and we are divided between the people who wish to speak eloquent words, the people who want to speak worldly words, and the people who want to speak creational words. But Gleichstimmung is only possible in the sense of the creational truth... OK, there is something to be said for stating our own legal names. It can give a sense of trust, or at least means we have to consider that what we post will be actually traceable back to us. But in the negative, these are often very worldly names that will lead our inner world to a feeling of worldly association. But, we could also have reasons for not putting our legal name. Plus, we are free to choose other names to be called by, because it can help our psyche to be refined. Or, it could just be to protect our identities. If we just followed the request of the core group in the first place and picked names that a human being could be called, we would not have this problem in such a mess today. Some of us picked names that a dog is called, some don't even have human names chosen for themselves. I didn't know how to pick a name before too, so I just picked a Latin word for my earlier account "Celesco". We aren't hitting the sweet spot in the middle at all right now. Is it the right time that we should pick real names? Michael_horn Member Post Number: 1243 Registered: 07-2009 Posted on Tuesday, November 22, 2016 - 09:35 pm:        While there may sometimes, probably in relatively rare occasions, be good reasons to use screen names, let's remember that the "government" ALREADY has access to everything about you and thinking that a screen name gives you anonymity from anyone but those people with whom you have important things in common...is an illusion. Using your real name DOESN'T reveal WHERE you are. So what's with the screen names? Votan Member Post Number: 643 Registered: 12-2011 Posted on Tuesday, November 22, 2016 - 09:58 pm:        Tyler_rutland Can you please do not make such a big deal about legal name,I am sure there are more important things to discuss. Each to their own. joe Votan Member Post Number: 644 Registered: 12-2011 Posted on Tuesday, November 22, 2016 - 10:02 pm:        Kenneth I am sure that he has his reasons. One could be that he does not want to add more fuel to the fire of riots. Some time we should not jump to conclusions without thinking about the problem at hand. Unfortunately we all do it at times. joe Norm3 Member Post Number: 128 Registered: 07-2016 Posted on Tuesday, November 22, 2016 - 10:22 pm:        Kenneth, Trump said it's up to the attorney General. https://youtu.be/v4CubyCYaYY Norm3 Member Post Number: 129 Registered: 07-2016 Posted on Tuesday, November 22, 2016 - 10:37 pm:        Kenneth, Better link. Trump: Hillary Being Brought To Justice Not Off The Table https://youtu.be/njWbnWH4S08 Tat_tvam_asi Member Post Number: 466 Registered: 04-2011 Posted on Wednesday, November 23, 2016 - 03:28 am:        Is it "not over yet"? http://edition.cnn.com/2016/11/22/politics/hillary-clinton-challenge-results/ Michaelhelfert Member Post Number: 602 Registered: 09-2011 Posted on Wednesday, November 23, 2016 - 06:51 am:        Anthony Weiner's 650,000+ emails, his 'Life Insurance' files, are the barest tip of the iceberg. In trying to make sense of the political happenings in the US and abroad, a number of citizen investigators in the social media sphere (Reddit, Twitter, FB, the chans, etc.) have been delving into what has become known as 'Pizzagate'. If you are new to the term, I suggest you search youtube for a good video. This one by Titus Frost presents a quick overview: youtube.com/watch?v=D8YdSvyp89E. I would have expected a conversation on the FIGU forum about this by now, but maybe you just haven't heard? The subject is not for the weak-minded, nor is it G-rated. If you have a weak stomach for the tedious exposure of satanic pedos in pictures and emails and travel logs and meetings, you might want to avoid the topic altogether. It's definitely not for everybody. Why is it relevant? Many people in government are directly involved. In investigating this, you'll see names like Bush, Soros, Clinton, etc. tossed around together with Comet Ping Pong and NASA. It's being widely reported that Trump is letting Hillary off the hook, and dear lord above I hope not. If you want to understand why... Pizzagate. In many ways, 'they' are trying to bury this stuff. For instance, a number of people have already been murdered to maintain the public silence. MsMichelle: at least two were law-enforcement (FBI and NYPD). However, I don't think this is going away. I don't think it can. 'Citizen investigators' have already got their teeth sunk into this, they've gotten a taste for satanic butthurt, and are not gonna stop digging until the whole thing is blown so wide open that it's undeniable in even the mainstream media. Regardless of what Trump does, this is coming out. Personally, I think the smart thing to do would be to get ahead of it. It's interesting to me because it highlights several things: 1. the persistent denial exhibited by so much of our population, and how deliciously that denial is cracking, breaking, just plain falling apart into wide-open exposure 2. the overt attempts to coverup what a growing number of random people are finding, and the deafening silence in the media of some very important connections and events that have been exposed 3. the coincident political wrangling that going on in the halls of justice and decency worldwide Life Norm3 Member Post Number: 130 Registered: 07-2016 Posted on Wednesday, November 23, 2016 - 09:40 am:        Tat_tvam_asi You siting a Mainstream Media source. Who has an agenda to remove Trump as President. The MM lie all the time to stir up trouble. They are the Fake news not the alternative news. Ron Paul's REVEALED: The Real Fake News List http://www.ronpaullibertyreport.com/archives/revealed-the-real-fake-news-list Norm3 Member Post Number: 131 Registered: 07-2016 Posted on Wednesday, November 23, 2016 - 10:13 am:        More on this, SR 1360 – Is Donald Trump Giving Hillary Clinton a Pass? https://youtu.be/LFoSVHuMA74 via @YouTube Tyler_rutland Member Post Number: 45 Registered: 01-2016 Posted on Thursday, November 24, 2016 - 06:21 am:        At this time, I'd just like to share this wonderful musiciany guy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlgejLidA6A&index=9&list=PL43A49F8ED45BF3FB ^ musician for all you fretting folks to check out. Get some headphones, let that sink into your subconscious for a while when you finally feel ready to stop worrying so much, and see how you feel after. Salome and happy drowning, and don't worry drowning doesn't hurt Tat_tvam_asi Member Post Number: 467 Registered: 04-2011 Posted on Thursday, November 24, 2016 - 07:32 pm:        Norm Nothing to do with mainstream media - more with what goes on in some people's minds ... after all thoughts are very powerful. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/nov/23/jill-stein-election-recount-fund-michigan-wisconsin-pennsylvania Tat_tvam_asi Member Post Number: 468 Registered: 04-2011 Posted on Thursday, November 24, 2016 - 09:08 pm:        News Without Truth – A Swiss Historian’s View of the Syrian War - When we hear news about Syria – what comes to mind? Is this not the country where this power greedy ruler uses poison gas against his own people? The many refugees that had to flee, to escape his cruelty? If the Swiss historian Dr. D. Ganser *) is right then these constant reports in our media are simply not true. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3dJVj0x5J8 As the video is in German some of his major points below. In a nutshell: - Our media turns people into a weak willed and uneducated flock that does not see the heart of the problem. According to Dr. Ganser the Syrian conflict is not as our media reports a “civil war” but clearly a war controlled by foreign interests that want to remove Assad **). He mentions a dossier of the US Embassy in Syria from 2006 which describes how one can destabilize Syria by inciting the different groups within the Syrian population against each other. And exactly this was done... --- How did it all begin? --- Dr. Ganser has diligently pieced together the beginnings of this conflict and came to these insights: Syria was once a country where Muslims and Christians could live peacefully next to each other. But this all changed during the time of the “Arabian Spring” …. It was 2011 when youths sprayed Syrian police stations with graffiti asking for an overthrow of the Assad government. Naturally the police arrested the perpetrators. These arrests immediately led to large gatherings of protest proclaiming that the government / police abused the youths and demanded their release. But the government did not do so. As this strategy did not work – so Dr. Ganser – the foreign elements that wanted to destabilize and remove Assad used a “strategy of tension” ***)– a deliberate provocation targeting government servants, policemen and army officers: Snipers shot unarmed policemen. E.g. one policeman left his house with his wife and the daughter in his arms. The snipers shot all three of them. The news spread among the Syrian police forces - they were concerned about their and their family's security. Western media, however, did not publish these beginnings – we only hear that Assad violently suppressed protests calling for his removal. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syrian_Civil_War http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/14/world/middleeast/14syria.html As Syrian policemen carry no guns (they only carry a baton) Assad sent the army to protect the police officers. But the western media turned this into: “Assad uses – without any reason - army against its own people”: The real truth, so Dr. Ganser, is that a lie about the beginnings of this conflict was wilfully propagated. --- The 2013 Poison Gas Attack(s) --- Yes, there was such an attack. But whose poison gas was it? Western media claims that it was Assad who used “Poison gas against his own people” Seymour Hersh, an investigative, US, Pulitzer Prize winning journalist denies this ****) He concluded that it was not Assad but Assad’s enemies – the ones that western media calls “moderate rebels” – that executed this attack. The UNO Sec Council then sent a team of experts to Damaskus to investigate the attack. But when they arrived there was another and larger attack. Acc to Dr. Ganser – if the expert team would have investigated the first attack they would have found that the culprits were the “moderate rebels” ****) and that the second attack, it ,too, was acc to some Turkish politicians done by these groups of rebels. But for the western media there always was only Assad who did it. And so Assad was such bad he must leave - this was and is the message in the media – "he must be overthrown" – "he used poison gas against his own people." These were the constant news fed to the public. Acc. to Dr. D. Ganser: the true, “hidden attacker” that stirred it all up, that is responsible for the up to now 400,000 civilian deaths, is not known nor investigated (because no media in the West would ever dare to publish this information). --- The Untouchables --- Dr. Ganser then mentions the very obvious double standard that exists in our world which promotes that "bullies rule": After WW2 the UN signatories set out clearly that Hitler’s attack on Poland was illegal. Thus the main point of the UN Charta was that no country should attack another country. But the same Charta privileged 5 countries with a right to veto any moves by the UN Sec Council. Thus all 5 countries have attacked other countries whenever they wanted without any punishment. (Dr. Ganser mentions the many wars which abused this privilege and the country that very clearly stands out) His conclusion: The ICJ in Den Haag is a farce: It may rightly condemn some African despots but the greatest perpetrators go free. Because of this UN scheme 195 countries in our world live in fear, have not the courage to speak against the actions of the big 5. (They may be punished by the big 5 and have no way to defend themselves) Even if the wrongdoing is obvious for everyone (like in e.g. the Iraq o0r Vietnam War) the bullying, the “gewalt” and “lying”, continues unabatedly: --- Epilog --- The “news of our world” may not present what is right but the view of who has most power. The ICJ may never judge the 400,000 civilian deaths in Syria, the 3 million in the Vietnam War etc etc. But slowly but surely the Law of Cause and Effect will... We mentioned many times that a false sense of superiority is the core hindrance for peace in our world. But we should see the present as a transitory phase ... gathering wisdom... To teach and practice the view of “equalisedness” and oneness. Salome *) https://www.danieleganser.ch/biographie.html?lang=en **) http://johnpilger.com/articles/inside-the-invisible-government-war-propaganda-clinton-trump “….As WikLeaks has revealed, it was only when the Syrian leader Bashar al-Assad in 2009 rejected an oil pipeline, running through his country from Qatar to Europe, that he was attacked. From that moment, the secret services planned to destroy the government of Syria with jihadist fanatics …” Figu Zeitzeichen mentioned in an article that Saudi A. offered Russian GAZPROM special deals after the overthrow of Assad But VP rejected the deal. ***) Dr. Ganser mentions the similarities of snipers shooting in the crowd at the Maidan in Kiew / Ukraine – immediately the Russian leaning PM J. is blamed – he flees to Moscow even though he did not do it – Dr. Ganser describes it as the same “force strategy of tension” to achieve a regime change. ****) www.strategic-culture.org/.../04/28/seymour-hersh...syrian-rebels.html www.foreignpolicyjournal.com/2014/05/06/seymour-hersh-links-turke www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/08/seymour-hersh-syria-report_ www.wsws.org/en/articles/2014/04/07/syri-a07.html (For various videos google for Seymour Hersh Syria poison gas attack) ****) The latest Figu Zeitzeichen publishes a summary of J Pilger interviewing JAss . JA explains that the most important revelation of his WL “JP emails” is the one in which JPod. is advised to put strong pressure on Qatar and S.A. to financially and logistically support ISIS and other radical groups: Thus the initiative did not come from “some S.A. princes that acted by themselves against the will of the S.A. government”.. In the same time period falls the greatest arms trade deal in human history (80 billion $) with S.A.: (and some donations) *****) http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/14/14922.html#POST79442 Corey Member Post Number: 5 Registered: 10-2016 Posted on Saturday, November 26, 2016 - 02:32 am:        Bill (Tat_tvam_asi): Re: your post 467, Jill Stein's recount movement seems to be funded by Soros. I wish she never would have gotten involved with these neo-liberals (although I do not much like the neo-cons either) I mean Trump will be President, which we can tell from contact 663 that is the way better option then if Clinton would have won, which would have led to atomic warfare being unavoidable because of Clinton. Who knows, maybe a Trump presidency will calm down some of the anti-Russian rhetoric that has taken the UK, and the EU by storm lately, and maybe they will see things with different eyes if he (Trump) keeps his promises to have a mutual basis for partnering with Russia against ISIS, and in the Middle East. I think his (Trump's) exact words in the phone dialogue between himself, and Putin was "I will form a strong relationship between the US, and Russia, one that will be based on mutual respect, and mutual interests.". Of course like anything we will have to wait and see if Trump keeps his promises to Russia and the American people about Russia, and everything else he promised about rebuilding America (Ptaah said Trump really wants to), and lessening American interventionism around the world, or if things will go the way of Obama (lead to manipulation, and control of Trump [threats towrads Trump's family]). As for your post 468 thank you for the report! In the words of John Mayer from the song "Waiting On the World to Change": "we see everything that's going wrong with the world, and those that lead it, and we just feel like we don't have the means, to rise above and beat it". The majority of this Earth do not feel the elites are working in our (the majorities') best-interest. Salome/Corey Müske Tat_tvam_asi Member Post Number: 471 Registered: 04-2011 Posted on Saturday, November 26, 2016 - 08:07 pm:        Salome Corey, I understand your thoughts about the election . Maybe I should have been more expressive re. what I meant. It was not to say there should be a recount: I am only an observer, watching the election moods from the o/s. E.g. the way s.o. said “We are not done yet!” Some human thoughts – be they good or bad – loving or angry - seem to penetrate into a different dimension. So I said human thoughts give rise to effects, that they lead to actions. But I am not influenced by these thoughts/actions, nor do I say that they will bring the desired result. ------------------ I, too, feel that a majority of western people is upset that they have to vote for politicians who do not represent what they and the majority of their fellow citizens want. That lobbyists “ actually rule”, by telling politicians “ what to vote for and leaders “where to sign”.. Our fellow humans know in their hearts that Asket *) is right: “A boundless lust for power is characteristic of all terrestrial ideologies, and the actual goal embodiment of everything exists in the acquisition of control…” And though Swiss historian Dr. D. Ganser truly expresses the truth about the double standard in our world, that its root is the UN Charta (Veto right for 5 out of 195 nations) – there is a deeper reason that the 195 nations fear to get together to turn it into human unity. The reason why it is so hard to shake off the “old system” is the people’s view of existence: They are baptized into “idolizing” an imagined superiority when they are just a few days old, with an image of their guilt, of being undeserving… “Ideology means the greatest and most dangerous power for the acquisition of control, which, as a rule, almost without exception, is striven for by all directions of faith, in so far as they are aligned religiously or as a secret society, scientifically, pseudo-scientifically, politically, militarily or fanatically, and so forth.. (Asket) And thus, hyped up in an illusion, humanity creates material things and beings in excess. But in a future time our historians will add: “It was only a matter of time until they realized that material progress without spiritual evolution cannot be sustained. That quantity without quality is futile. That the thought with which we create is most important. That it should be to evolve spiritually. Not domination over others but directed towards loving oneness, “equalised-ness” with all beings. “42. It is the task of each more highly developed life form to stand alongside less developed forms with help in responsible measure, to influence the evolution in the appropriate strength. 43. This obligation is incumbent on all life forms of all universes, because it is based within a creational law. “(Asket) There is no better way to express it. Salome, Bill *) Thank you, IloveBilly, for publishing Asket’s teachings. Michael_horn Member Post Number: 1244 Registered: 07-2009 Posted on Saturday, November 26, 2016 - 08:54 pm:        Hey everyone, In this blog: Documenting Billy Meier’s Prophetic Information http://theyflyblog.com/?p=4194 A place to post & discuss newly corroborated events and discoveries ...there's a link to where you can pose a question to a Canadian reporter (see blog for details). I highly suggest that EVERYONE take the opportunity to participate, to pose a question that will help to bring the Meier case to public attention. Seriously, give it a try and also let us know on the blog what question you asked. Then let's see which questions get publicly addressed in a few days. Norm3 Member Post Number: 133 Registered: 07-2016 Posted on Sunday, November 27, 2016 - 07:16 am:        For what its worth. I saw this on Twitter. Trump is open to everyone's opinion. On #MTP, @KellyannePolls tells @chucktodd Trump & Obama have been talking regularly; "They talked just yesterday ... about 40 to 45 minutes" @KellyannePolls / Kellyanne Conway is Trumps Campaign Manager. @chucktodd / Chuck" Todd is an American television journalist who is the 12th moderator of Meet the Press, and host of Meet the Press Daily on MSNBC. He also serves as the Political Director for NBC News. Msmichelle Member Post Number: 212 Registered: 02-2010 Posted on Sunday, November 27, 2016 - 04:56 pm:        Since we all have a fascination with News...I think We all should consider setting up a thread dealing with the Fake news vs. Real News....and how we can help each other reveal the truth.....?? MsMichelle Scott Moderator Post Number: 2658 Registered: 12-1999 Posted on Monday, November 28, 2016 - 08:42 pm:        Dear Ms Michelle, Thank you for your idea concerning the creation of new thread. In the past a similar thread existed, but people continually went off topic which eventually resulted in closing down the thread. (http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/863/8853.html?1273260013) We now live in a different time than we did a decade ago and I think more than ever the Mainstream Media has been completely "contaminated", which is unfortunate because we are perpetually inundated with more and more information daily which is shaping our views of the world whether true or false. My question to you is, how do we determine whether something is true or false?....I think RT comes close. I have been reading the Tass News Agency Website from time to time, but again all things stated must be evaluated..... Hugo Member Post Number: 295 Registered: 04-2015 Posted on Monday, November 28, 2016 - 09:19 pm:        Scott, I also think RT news comes close but it is also biased with Russia. RT is the only mainstream media I will watch. Funny the Western mainstream medias treat RT as a fake news source when they are the fake news sources.

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