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Scott
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Post Number: 2657
Registered: 12-1999
Posted on Tuesday, November 22, 2016 - 06:34 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Justsayno & Msmichelle,

If the two of you do not stop making references to each other, whether justified or not, your posts will be refused. If the two of you have differences which need to be addressed, please do so outside of this forum. Justsayno, I have read your post which is in the queue right now, but I am not going to post it, because it will inflame the situation further. Please stick to the topic.

Scott-Moderator
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Justsayno
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Post Number: 756
Registered: 10-2009
Posted on Wednesday, November 23, 2016 - 07:09 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks Scott. Don't say that you weren't warned.
Good, better, best. May you never rest, until your good is better, and your better best.
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Norm3
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Post Number: 138
Registered: 07-2016
Posted on Saturday, December 10, 2016 - 10:20 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The CIA's SECRET Plan For President Trump
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UP77G_9-PMQ&sns=tw via @youtube
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Tat_tvam_asi
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Post Number: 504
Registered: 04-2011
Posted on Friday, December 23, 2016 - 06:47 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Something to watch - China / SE Asia Policy ...

Billy in CR 115 (October 1978:

“It’s about China and Vietnam…Will this only be a pro forma attack (China attack on Vietnam Feb 1979) which represents a very first predecessor of that which in later time will be repeated, and then shall form the essential starting point of the Third World War, at least for the part that will be started by China?”

69. Semjase:
“You are well informed about these things and you also know this to be unavoidable, in consequence of which all of it really occurs…

*)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-Vietnamese_conflicts_1979%E2%80%9390
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Tat_tvam_asi
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Post Number: 505
Registered: 04-2011
Posted on Friday, December 23, 2016 - 10:31 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

NB re. my previous mail:
The quoted passage was from W. Steven's book.
The 2010 translation by B. Stevens (as published on the futureofmankind website) reads:

Billy:
It concerns Vietnam and China. Will China really attack Vietnam at the end of February or something? And will it really be just a proforma attack, which represents the very first precursor to what repeats itself at a later time and what will then form the actual starting point of a war, at least by that part which will be started by China, if the thoughts and actions of those responsible don't change to the better.


Semjase:
72. You know about these things very well and also know that everything will be inevitable; thus, it will, in fact, arrive.
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Norm
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Registered: 12-2016
Posted on Saturday, December 31, 2016 - 05:47 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Washington Post Caught Spreading More Fake News About "Russian Hackers"
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-12-31/washington-post-caught-spreading-more-fake-news-about-russian-hackers
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Kenneth
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Post Number: 529
Registered: 04-2013
Posted on Monday, January 02, 2017 - 07:27 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Russia and U.S.A. went head to head about Snowden.

If you haven’t seen the 2016 Snowden movie about the American “whistleblower”, it’s a must see film. We’ve heard some bits and pieces of Edward Snowden’s released information; this movie is very detailed. When Snowden’s information was first released he was portrayed as the worst conspirator in recorded history. Today; as people read, see and understand the truth; he is portrayed more of a hero than not, by the people. Apparently he still has a death contract out on him.

Snowden is a 2016 German-American biographical political thriller film directed by Oliver Stone and written by Stone and Kieran Fitzgerald, based on the books The Snowden Files by Luke Harding and Time of the Octopus by Anatoly Kucherena. The cast includes Joseph Gordon-Levitt as the title character, Edward Snowden,

Wiki:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snowden_%28film%29

Snowden, the politically-charged, pulse-pounding thriller reveals the incredible untold personal story of Edward Snowden, the polarizing figure who exposed shocking illegal surveillance activities by the NSA and became one of the most wanted men in the world. He is considered a hero by some, and a traitor by others. No matter which you believe, the epic story of why he did it, who he left behind, and how he pulled it off makes for one of the most compelling films of the year.

Trailer:
https://youtu.be/QlSAiI3xMh4

Kenneth
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Historeed
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Post Number: 86
Registered: 09-2008
Posted on Tuesday, January 03, 2017 - 11:48 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Here's another article about the Russian "hackers" narrative being pushed by the MSM:

https://theintercept.com/2016/12/31/russia-hysteria-infects-washpost-again-false-story-about-hacking-u-s-electric-grid/
Matthew Reed
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Norm
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Registered: 12-2016
Posted on Friday, January 13, 2017 - 07:09 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Trump & Putin Partnership would avert World War 3
Russian Expert Prof. Stephen Cohen
https://youtu.be/fNJkdJ8PCSk
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Justsayno
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Post Number: 767
Registered: 10-2009
Posted on Sunday, January 15, 2017 - 11:05 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Here's a few articles about the DNC interference in the Canadian election in 2015. When I hear the DNC spewing "Russian hacking" it makes me lol because the DNC are the worst hypocrites.
http://debatepost.com/2016/11/02/breaking-wikileaks-shows-hillary-clinton-may-have-helped-trudeau-win-the-canadian-election/

http://canadafreepress.com/article/obama-campaign-team-hands-canada-over-to-the-lib-left
Good, better, best. May you never rest, until your good is better, and your better best.
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Michaelhelfert
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Post Number: 623
Registered: 09-2011
Posted on Saturday, January 21, 2017 - 09:27 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

As we turn over a new leaf in American history, let's follow the clear path of peace, mutually creative peace.
We will be pulled Left and Right for all those causes are worth. Let's allow FIGU to be what it is: a refuge where we can maintain what equanimity we can find at every turn

Saalome gam naan ben uurda, gan njjber asaala hesporoona!
In the most conflicted times, may FIGU simply be at peace.
Life
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Msmichelle
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Registered: 02-2010
Posted on Sunday, January 22, 2017 - 05:13 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I agree, hopefully for what We know, We will not be pulled as a Democrat or Republican or anything else for that matter. We will not be Surprised or Shocked by what is said or written, because We Know The Truth. We must refrain from getting caught up in the madness of Politics and not Follow every breaking news, articles presented by mainstream or alternative media outlets
MsMichelle
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Watchdog
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Post Number: 126
Registered: 12-2014
Posted on Monday, January 23, 2017 - 06:39 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hillary Clinton is out of the picture.
Thank Creation.

I think we're safe for the time being from nuclear war.
Lets be happy in that fact.
David AKA Watchdog. USA
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Votan
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Registered: 12-2011
Posted on Monday, January 23, 2017 - 10:45 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Watchdog.

That is too easy. Hillary is still in the picture. You will see in coming months.
joe
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Tat_tvam_asi
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Post Number: 543
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Posted on Tuesday, January 24, 2017 - 05:17 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

A different danger is on the horizon:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jan/24/trump-white-house-beijing-takeover-south-china-sea
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Kenneth
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Registered: 04-2013
Posted on Tuesday, January 24, 2017 - 09:39 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Bill,

Agreed; in the Article; China hits back at US over South China Sea 'takeover' claims.

These two paragraphs jump out as a serious concern.

“We’ve talked a big game on security but haven’t really followed it up all that well with the military muscle that was needed,”

“A blockade [of China’s artificial islands] would be incredibly provocative and would almost certainly spark a US-China confrontation on the water … If the US is going to blockade China’s access to territories which it – rightly or wrongly – believes are its, then we are in for a confrontation.”

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jan/24/trump-white-house-beijing-takeover-south-china-sea

Kenneth
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Votan
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Post Number: 673
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Posted on Tuesday, January 24, 2017 - 02:34 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Kenneth

It is about time somebody stands up to these Chinese bullies.

They are good at bluffing and they know that a hostile confrontation is not the answer.
joe
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Tat_tvam_asi
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Post Number: 544
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Posted on Tuesday, January 24, 2017 - 04:40 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Quite so, Kenneth.

We should not forget the economical component, either:
China may well become the beneficiary of the TPP withdrawal... because this withdrawal may leave the door wide open for China to promote its own Pan Pacific Free Trade agreement.

It may lead China to aspire for the vacant US leadership role = it may seize the opportunity to become the new protector of free trade worldwide:

http://www.aljazeera.com/programmes/countingthecost/2016/11/china-world-champion-free-trade-161126085644649.html

Why is this so important?
Because China knows how to use its economical muscle to gain politically ...
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Hugo
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Registered: 04-2015
Posted on Tuesday, January 24, 2017 - 09:35 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The US has no business sticking it's nose in disputed waters in the South China Sea.
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Norm
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Registered: 12-2016
Posted on Tuesday, January 24, 2017 - 09:41 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Amazing the calls for Trumps death by members of the mainstream media and pop culture .

German Solution to the Trump Problem: “Murder in the White House”
http://gatesofvienna.net/2017/01/german-solution-to-the-trump-problem-murder-in-the-white-house/
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Votan
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Posted on Tuesday, January 24, 2017 - 11:37 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hugo.

You are so wrong. China has no right to those islands. It is only taking them now because of the oil around that area.

America and the rest of the world should have stepped in earlier.
joe
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Votan
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Posted on Tuesday, January 24, 2017 - 11:42 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Bill

Free trade does not work when China for instance is exploiting the work force.

Mind you Australia on the other end thru the stupidity of unions got rid of manufacturing.

Higher wages forced GMH, Ford and Toyota out.
joe
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Hugo
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Posted on Wednesday, January 25, 2017 - 02:25 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Votan, that dispute should only involve those nations close by to it such as Japan, Thailand, ect and not nations that are half a world away like the USA.

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