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Newinitiation
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Post Number: 1735
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, January 22, 2017 - 03:56 am: | 
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I don't know but I am getting this irritable feeling once again like I am on uppers or something.
Whenever this feeling comes over me something major happens that makes the world news.
Obviously its natural disaster, politics or terrorism related.
People die of course and everyone will be wondering was it a falseflag once again.
How unfortunate that I don't have the specifics.
'Well why post anything about it then' so goes the voice inside my head but another part of me says 'I want validation for these feelings by putting it on record for my own sake just to prove to myself that indeed there is definitely something to it that I seem to be picking up from the ether and maybe sensing something impending from the future through my 6th and 7th sense'.
So what's the point of my post?
Well it'll be good to warn people of the possible impending disaster just about to happen so that lives are saved but once again it was not to be. |
Newinitiation
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Post Number: 1736
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, January 22, 2017 - 04:34 am: |
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Norm if you haven't already done so I recommend Dr Greer's 'Hidden Truth Forbidden Knowledge'
I've read this book many years ago and what Dr Greer wrote in it is quite profoundly applicable to this day especially about the CIA although as always nothing trumps what Billy said about them even before this book come out if my memory serves me correct. |
Newinitiation
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Post Number: 1737
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, January 22, 2017 - 04:57 am: |
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Hwaiian maybe I am the one who is making the mistake but something set off my mistakOmeter from your post.
According to my recollection the plejaren were prevented from assisting the Bardans during the Tunguska event and it wasn't the GIs nor Bardans involved but Sirian renegades who the plejaren persued and their destructive bomb defused through reversing time and then them being arrested by the sirians.
Where in the contact note did it say that the GIs shot a beam that glanced off the protective shield.
You may be referring to an artificial lightening bolt aimed at billy that bounced off a rock as you could clearly see from the photo of billy in guido's And Still They Fly book.
The Assassination number has increased to 22 minus the ones not talked about officially.
Also where in the CN does it say that the plejaren can request a reincarnation stoppage.
This is BS pure and simple
Only the AA has done this billions of years ago when nokodemjon's people ran amok and caused catastrophe
The AA prevented their spirit form from reincarnating for a very long time until their information in the storage bank was exhausted.
Whete are you getting your info from Barbara Marciniak?? |
Cpl
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Post Number: 870
Registered: 08-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, January 22, 2017 - 05:06 pm: |
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Hawaiian,
One reason why the Plejaren couldn't or didn't interfere in the Tunguska event is because those visitors were disease ridden and so no one could assist. Had the Plejaren broken Federation law and foolishly exposed themselves to such a danger we may well not be experiencing their help right now, because the ones helping could well have all died of sickness back before the mission began. The Plejaren are not super beings; they have limitations and can get sick like any human being, and they have to obey Federation law just like any other Federation member.
Chris
Use to the full both the heart and head and never lose either.
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Norm
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Post Number: 30
Registered: 12-2016
| | Posted on Sunday, January 22, 2017 - 06:29 pm: |
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Newinitiation, I think I did real that. |
Kenneth
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Post Number: 546
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Sunday, January 22, 2017 - 08:54 pm: |
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Newinitiation,
It appears that your "mistakOmeter" is accurate.
Kenneth |
Votan
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Post Number: 671
Registered: 12-2011
| | Posted on Sunday, January 22, 2017 - 10:43 pm: |
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Cpl
You think that with their advanced technology they could have cured them.
Somehow there is a problem .They could interfere if it meant saving lives,after all they are human beings with compassion.
joe
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Norm
Member
Post Number: 31
Registered: 12-2016
| | Posted on Monday, January 23, 2017 - 06:27 am: |
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He's at it again.
Billionaire George Soros has ties to more than 50 ‘partners’ of the Women’s March on Washington
What is the link between one of Hillary Clinton’s largest donors and the Women’s March? Turns out, it’s quite significant
http://nytlive.nytimes.com/womenintheworld/2017/01/20/billionaire-george-soros-has-ties-to-more-than-50-partners-of-the-womens-march-on-washington |
Norm
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Post Number: 32
Registered: 12-2016
| | Posted on Monday, January 23, 2017 - 05:58 pm: |
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Since Trump dumped the TTP today. I came across this old clip. We all know what Billy said.
Julian Assange on the Trans-Pacific Partnership: Secretive Deal Isn't About Trade, But Corporate Control
https://www.democracynow.org/2015/5/27/julian_assange_on_the_trans_pacific} |
Cpl
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Post Number: 872
Registered: 08-2004
| | Posted on Monday, January 23, 2017 - 07:38 am: |
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Votan,
They are human. They get sick themselves sometimes. They are not immune to everything.
No they cannot interfere if it means saving lives: it is more complicated than that. They would be incessantly interfering all over the earth if that were the case.
Compassion is mostly a feeling, rather than an action. It is true that it can, and often does, motivate people to act, but that is not a prerequisite of compassion. Often compassion is felt because there is nothing one can do to help.
Chris
Use to the full both the heart and head and never lose either.
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Tat_tvam_asi
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Post Number: 542
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Monday, January 23, 2017 - 05:41 pm: |
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Salome Joe / Chris,
CR428 (Jul 10, 2006)
Ptaah (to Billy):
“…we naturally constantly relayed our information to the stranded space travellers' home world, however we did not receive permission to intervene in the events. Therefore we had to let things run their course, however, this was built on the fact that we could teach the space travellers' government and people in relation to this: that no danger existed any more for them from the Earth humans' religions if they would no longer get involved in these..."
Details see http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Tunguska_event
It is not quite clear whether the government from the Coma galaxy cluster forbid the Plejaren to help the 4387 stranded (and with Earth Syphilis infected) space travelers or whether the prime reason was the P’s intent to teach the Bardon people and government …
But Joe’s question re. ‘compassion’ is still appropriate:
I, too, wondered why the Ps would accept the help from higher developed races when they were in need (Sonaer) but are unable to give help to a lower developed race.
May be our race is below the standard before "assistance can be given directly (without the inter-agency of a prophet)..."?
But if so, if our race is really lowly developed because of many re-incarnating human beings that violated creational laws (prisoner-planet) – why would they not at least discuss the possibility of these Earth humans progressing in their evolution by applying a compassionate mind?
Many Earth human sages hold compassion in high regard. *)
The Ps. may have their good reason.
But it is not known to me.
Salome,
Bill
*)
http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/13/15104.html#POST80095
http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/13/15104.html#POST80121
http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/13/15104.html#POST80141
http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/13/15104.html#POST80276 |
Hawaiian
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Post Number: 254
Registered: 05-2011
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 24, 2017 - 02:45 pm: |
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The problem with most on this forum is the inability to look beyond the confines each put upon themselves and take literally word for word of the contact reports without thinking logically.
First of all the disease concerning the Bardans is STD or syphilis an easily treatable condition even by Earthly standards at that time called penicillin discovered before WWII.
Now in regards to the Giza Intelligences, it is a known fact that these degenerates have been working towards world domination and influences through religious endeavors including telenotic manipulation, therefore they were directly responsible for such religious beliefs being transferred from Earth to the two Bardan’s planets that were destroyed. All the more reason to have them arrested and deport them to a prison planet at that time.
What the Plejarens did not do is only a sign of weak leadership or the lack of it, just the same as they did NOTHING to prevent the assassinations of BEAM. If the so called “neutral-slightly positive” is so correct, then why did not Billy’s subconscious react to prevent or counter-act such death threats.
I can tell you through direct experience that utilizing this “neutral-slightly positive” approach does not work, especially when there are outside influences that dictate current events, unless one recognizes such negative harm against oneself instead of denying it, which actually interferes in the normal self-defense mechanism of the Subconscious.
I have observed through dreams (subconscious) on at least 7 different episodes on those who actually thought or did unjustifiable and unwarranted actions against myself prior to these events occurring. It involved two car accidents where one was killed and the other sent to the ICU for three weeks in a coma, a sporting event where his son got killed, a female died on the disco floor from epileptic seizure, a former supervisor falling off the railing and broke his neck, a co-worker laying in his coffin already dead.
In all cases, I recognized such negative unwarranted, unjustified actions and did not suppress my negative emotions that was triggered (Cause and Effect), but certainly did not plan any the dreams that occurred before it happened. Had I interfered with my Subconscious by using that “neutral-slightly positive”, then the possibility that I would not be here is highly possible. We as material human beings live in the positive and negative, so that is the consequence of those who engage in negative unwarranted, unjustifiable actions against others have to bear. Not my fault they injure or get killed and not my responsibility for their own demise they brought to themselves.
The Plejarens have to become more involved for their own good because they are at least one group of ET’s that already know how to manipulate the subconscious, which can be directed against the Federation via telenotic emotional triggered EMP similar to what Semjase and Billy did when they accessed Mr. G’s subconscious. All that is needed is to establish a link via the memory banks in targeting individuals. Earth humans have been abused for so long, now they become an “asset” for those with the proper technology to target those who have in the past abused Earth humans |
Michael_horn
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Post Number: 1262
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 25, 2017 - 08:40 am: |
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I think that posts like this one from Hawaiian are great examples of a combination of lack of understanding, intoxication, over-active imagination and a runaway sense of self-importance, combined with selective and very misunderstood conclusions based on second guessing about what and how real people did and/or coulda, woulda, shoulda done in real situations.
On the other hand, he may be onto (or just smoking) something. With people dropping like flies from his mastery of Jedi mind tricks, if the CIA hasn't already turned its attention towards using him as a secret weapon to assassinate its perceived enemies they soon will. Having someone who can light up, fall asleep and annihilate perceived enemies - some will even jump into coffins on command - while in a dream (or altered) state would be an amazing and inexpensive way to rule the world.
Let it be a warning to anyone - as well as to all nations - who dare to even THINK "unjustifiable and unwarranted actions” about/against Hawaiian, that he won’t waste any time on "neutral-slightly positive” stuff that would hinder his subnoxious mind from doling out the necessary retribution that assures his survival.
Soon to be available on Xbox.
As they say in a famous TV space show, “Live long and perspire!” |
Kenneth
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Post Number: 548
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 25, 2017 - 11:19 am: |
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Hawaiian,
Wow, where to begin; your statement of, “This forum is the inability to look beyond the confines. . . “It seems that you’re way off point there. The group of folks in the forum are the most open minded and forthcoming individuals on a wide range of subjects; that most outsiders can’t even comprehend!
It appears that you may be missing the point regarding your statement about the Bardans and STD’s or syphilis. First of all, because of the Bardans genetics, the syphilis mutated into other diseases (dis-ease) as well. Putting that aside; the bottom line is the “Rule of Law” regarding various cultures and races or beings. Not only did this Bardan ship land on Earth, accidently or not; the occupants took it upon themselves to intermingle with the locals, including sexual activities. This is not only direct “Cause and Effect”, it also violated the Bardans home-worlds mandates to stay clear of Earth let alone intermingle with Earthlings; this was extremely negligent and unethical on their part. Just from that point alone, the Plejaren had to observe/recognize the Bardans order/law to not interfere or aid their comrades on Earth. IMO, this had nothing to do with, whether the Plejaren could correct the dis-ease situation. If the Plejaren had gone against the Bardans “Law”, then what?
Don’t see how the Plejaren are directly responsible for religious beliefs on Earth because of the Giza Intelligences, aka Bafath; in-directly, maybe yes.
How do you know that the Plejaren did nothing to prevent the assassination attempts on BEAM? Just because Billy did not reveal that information, does not mean it did not happen. We don’t know, which appears to be an assumption on your part. There may be information out there that shows that the Plejaren actually did prevent some assassination attempts from happening?
Billy’s subconscious as you call it, did in fact prevent an assassination; remember the bullet that was stopped with a small book and steel plate in Billy’s upper pocket? Then there was the time that Billy was setting on his porch and dodged the bullet with his head. For Billy or the Plejaren to prevent someone from performing the assassination attempts, would appear to be against Creation’s laws, so to speak.
If the Neutral-positive approach is not working for you, something is out of alignment. In fact your statements through this whole blog appear to be leaning into the negative. It appears that many on this forum do use the Neutral-Positive thinking and method/attitude very successfully.
Can’t speak for your dreams; that’s strictly your interpretation.
Let me see if I understand what you are saying? The Plejaren are around ~30,000 years more spiritually advanced than us Earthlings; but we Earthlings need to tell the Plejaren how to become more involved for their own good? Really? |
Votan
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Post Number: 676
Registered: 12-2011
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 25, 2017 - 01:48 pm: |
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Hawaiian
It could be that they cannot interfere unless a certain criteria is met.
In all fairness who are we to judge.
joe
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Scott
Moderator
Post Number: 2665
Registered: 12-1999
| | Posted on Thursday, January 26, 2017 - 08:11 am: |
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Don't expect a response form Hawaiian, even though this is a discussion forum |
Learnmore12
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Post Number: 79
Registered: 05-2014
| | Posted on Thursday, January 26, 2017 - 12:06 pm: |
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Hi Hawaiian, I think the P's have done more than they are supposed to. They deserve our utmost gratitude rather than being blamed for things that we have caused upon us. It is our responsibility alone as a planet to recognize this fact and turn towards the truth and do something about it, not the P's. |
Newinitiation
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Post Number: 1738
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, January 26, 2017 - 02:58 pm: |
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Right I am with you Michael, Kenneth and Scott.
Hawaiian was at it for a number of years here.
What is it about the literal truth that people just understand or get.
Why do they have to weave such an elaborate and complex mindmaze around such simple facts of uttered truth I'll never know.
Does this tendency originate from an hyperactive imagination or does this malady run deeper in the form of a schizophrenic inferiority complex that compels people to want to appear and sound intelligent or more important than they really are.
What is it and what do they, in the end, get out of it anyway when they've managed to pull it off.
Didn't some passage in the prophecies or the contact notes state something to the effect that people will be self impressed by the sound of their own voice.
Are we talking about a sense of self grandeur or self aggrandizement here or is it more to do with sad cases wanting to offset their sense of inadequacies and genuine stupidity by making all efforts to sound smarter than they actually are.
Were they made to feel stupid as a child or were humiliated as a kid when they were growing up and through childhood trauma did they learn to cope with their shattered psyche and a sense that something is wrong with them by puffing themselves up with smart sounding words and complex language used so as to hide behind the safety net of an elaborate facade.
What the hell is it.
Anyway everything we think, do and say eventually comes back on us for the better or for the worse through the laws of cause and effect and that any and all unresolved psychological issued will constantly play out in our lives over and over again in everything that we do, the people we meet and the circumstances that we find ourselves in everyday life until at such time that we endeavour to fix and to rectify them. |
Corey
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Post Number: 62
Registered: 10-2016
| | Posted on Friday, January 27, 2017 - 06:47 pm: |
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(Hawaiian: one sentence: your whining does nothing for your evolutionary development, nor your home-planet's evolutionary development).
I have for years been trying to explain to Hawaiian that the "outside influences that dictate current events" are Earth problems, and we cannot expect the Plejaren to fix Earth problems. If they did, we would not, as a planet., fulfill our consciousness-based evolution, which is the responsibility of all humans everywhere, including the Earth, even though current Earth laws do not reflect this truthly truth, because we have not learned our painful lessons through the law of cause and effect enough yet. Billy (an Earth man who happens to have contacts with non-Earthly beings) has given us the proper recommendations to fix Earth problems: the gewaltsame Gewaltlosigkiet, the places of fulfillment of guidelines, and the planetary birth-stop with 7 year birth-rate checks, so this planet's citizens can vibrate correctly in accordance with swinging waves of the Creation universal-consciousness for once and for all, because the planet's citizens would be following creational law by following Billy's recommendations.
Hawaiian spends all his time trying to find an advantage for himself by studying the material halfheartedly, blending, manipulation, and changing what Billy teaches to suit his own dark purposes. Furthermore, he tries to teach others, without having a basic understanding of the material so he can pass this understanding on to others. It is like building a house in sand, the foundation will cause the entire house to collapse. Lastly Hawaiian thinks like a manipulator by constantly posting that the P's should have done more, and that the subconsciousness can be manipulated, and like Billy says: "what one thinks is what he/she will become" (Hawaiian thinks = advantageous manipulation = that's what he becomes). If we as a planet were supposed to be studying how to consciously influence our dreams in today's times, as a truth that needed to be brought to light, Billy would have come up with courses on the matter, but he has not. Dream manipulation is an interesting topic, but perhaps it is in the realm of like alcohol, and overeating, one should take care not to overindulge. The material plane, and the material cycle of rebirth are the gateways to evolutionary development through the law of cause and effect.
To the other students of the forums, 2 lessons can be learned from Hawaiian on what not to do.
1) Hawaiian is constantly looking for the shortest way to evolve, w/o putting in an honest effort. There are no "short-cuts" in evolution, and you cannot skip evolutionary "steps" (stepping stones) in one's evolutionary developmental path. (course of study about this topic is "Goblet" 28:423-28:432).
2) Hawaiian tries to bend the laws and recommendations of Creation to his will, and this is a big Earth-wide problem (Earth = self-"appointed" "Crowns of Creation"). You have to bend your will to be in accordance with the cosmic-natural laws and recommendations of the Creation, not the other way around. If you can, you, and your planet will develop for the positive quite rapidly, if you cannot, you will reap the effects through the law of cause and effect, and have to experience all of the negative effects of calamity, disaster, unfortune, etc, as a negative foreordination. The law of cause and effect is the Earth's true master, and as more time passes with our overpopulation problems, our planet's citizens will be learning more and more this fact first-hand. (courses of study for this topic is the law of cause and effect).
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"Goblet" cause and effect verses: 4/112-113, 4:147, 4:174, 6:18, 6:180, 7:10, 7:35 (law of condition [cause] and decision [effect = cause and effect]), 7:131 (condition [cause] and decision [effect]), 7:183 (cause/decision), 7:192 (condition[cause]), 10:38, 19:22 (cause and of decision), 25:112, 28:64 (power of interaction), 28:83-28:87 (law of interaction), 28:110 (change effects into positive).
Salome/Corey Müske
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Votan
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Post Number: 678
Registered: 12-2011
| | Posted on Friday, January 27, 2017 - 10:33 pm: |
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Corey
Everybody is entitled to their own opinion.
It would be a sad world if we all agree and all think alike. If you do not like what Hawaiian writes do not read it.
joe
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Newinitiation
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Post Number: 1739
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, January 28, 2017 - 01:14 am: |
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Well put Corey
Let Hawaiian's lesson be a good lesson for all who will come in the future with the same mindset and expectations.
Let us also learn what we can from it as it applies to us all. |
Corey
Member
Post Number: 66
Registered: 10-2016
| | Posted on Saturday, January 28, 2017 - 07:14 am: |
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Joe, you say the same thing every time Hawaiian posts. This is out of the "freedom of speech" realm, and is into the "protection of the teaching" realm. The last time we had major falsifications, we ended up with the Bible, and the Koran. Do you study the Geisteslehre, or just read the free online stuff? Most people that study the Geisteslehre see it as a treasure worth protecting.
Salome/Corey Müske
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Scott
Moderator
Post Number: 2666
Registered: 12-1999
| | Posted on Saturday, January 28, 2017 - 09:54 am: |
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Corey, I have let a number of Hawaiian's post through against my better judgment with the hope he would see the light from other people's responses. I tend to think some of his posts are a deliberate attempt to distort the truth, to what end I don't know. Unfortunately, he has not made any effort to interact with others and continues on his path of eventual self destruction..thank you everyone for your input. Salome |
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