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Norm
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Post Number: 40
Registered: 12-2016
| | Posted on Monday, January 30, 2017 - 07:49 pm: | 
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Kenneth, Soros is a Globalist. So he's with the Dark Order. He's against Trump. He is a pro-EU all the way. The Dark Order controls both Parties. Just keep an eye on Republicans Lindsey Graham & John McCain both are Globalists. They are fighting Trump any way they can. Even House Speaker Paul Ryan & Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell can't be trusted & are Globalists. The the GOP tried to derail Trumps candidacy. Don't worry they will not quit until Trumps out of office. Trump needs to slow down a little he's moving to fast causing perceived problems for his administration. Its getting the Left crazy. The MSM will blow every thing up & make it a bigger deal than it is. The MSM can flame the fans for Civil War. Even Obama is not helping matters.
Obama Rejects Trump Immigration Orders, Backs Protests
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/obama-rejects-trump-immigration-orders-backs-protests-n714341 |
Historeed
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Post Number: 91
Registered: 09-2008
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 31, 2017 - 04:57 am: |
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Norm,
Thanks for the link about Saudi Arabia...I guess we still have to make deals with the devil sometimes. Also, I agree with you about Trump needing to slow down. It's almost as if he's walking into a trap set by the neo-cons & neo-liberals like McCain, Graham & Schumer. If he keeps acting like a bull in a china shop, all hell will break loose, I fear. The establishment will not go down without a fight, and the people at-large will refuse to have executive orders cramped down their throats, no matter how well-meaning Trump may think he's acting.
Matthew Reed
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Afonso11
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Post Number: 14
Registered: 02-2016
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 31, 2017 - 10:33 am: |
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ok then. firstly, newinitiation, just afonso will be fine , thanks. knowing that I don't know everything is to my advantage because I can train my self not to fixate on a perceived "conclusion" based on everything up to the present and allow new data and aspects of the situation to reveal to me, through that further knowledge, what it is that I should keep and what should be discarded. no sense in being mentally inflexible, right? but with regards to your (rhetorical?) questions- if one was funding all sides in the "conflicts" one would by definition have to have opposing sides/parties/factions/clubs/teams no? there must, of necessity, be a "tension". how can there be movement towards the intended goal if everybody is nice and respectful towards one another? what would that "achieve"? it would be a result that is anathema to their objectives, no? ON PURPOSE negative dynamic forces are being consciously, strategically deployed and implemented. the pen IS the sword for them, before the sword is inevitably unsheathed. because unsheath it they will, in my opinion. control comes first through legal means even if it is not "lawful". is usury lawful? it sure is legal though, huh? hence the need for HUMANITY to get up to speed on all the available, discernably factual, verifiable, EVIDENCE. mr. meier and the plejaren are shining examples of what truth can do and how it can be EFFECTIVE. tell me newinitiation- was there a war that led up to the collapse of the former soviet union? once the money ran out they were done. same thing here goes for the cartel. it seems they wanted that full-spectrum control over the currencies of the world that they've been printing left and right. the actual governments and their defending forces would capitulate thereafter once the devaluation was complete. more "money" would need to be borrowed from those that actually caused the problem in the first place (knowingly, purposefully, from the evidence I've seen) and the "state capture" would be complete and in effect. just make the conditions of the further loans advantageous to the corporate/commercial/financial/maritime-law-using entities to modify the existing laws of the people and for the people and replace them with corporate entities (that includes you and me in all caps, of course)that fall under the "jurisdiction" of the Uniform Commercial Code and admiralty maritime law. not common law (the law of the land). However the very instruments that they have successfully used to impose state capture on most of the countries of the world are being turned against them (hence the UCC-1 filings/Commercial liens on Trump, Obama, and a pretty long and notable list of others named) by that very power of the pen that they have usurped from the people (temporarily) but which the people now have used also, to impeded the cartel's ability to function properly and to bring about it's demise. we are in interregnum. this a legally definable term and it has legal significance. I find it amazing that so much verifiably accurate information was reviewed so quickly and then kinda/sorta discarded. if we were both digging down that rabbit hole together i'd be asking you right now why you were putting your shovel down. keep digging. there are many things that I am still unsure of and I figure this forum is better than most as a place where I can ask my questions to you, the other forum members, the core group, mr. meier, the plejaren, whomever I feel might provide insight. the correct answers i'll try to reach on my own after considering the valuable advice from the plejaren and mr. meier as well as each and every person who posts here and beyond. do unto others. peace |
Kenneth
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Post Number: 556
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 31, 2017 - 11:12 am: |
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Norm,
Soros and those that you mentioned may very well be Globalists; John McCain is not who he portrays himself to be. Trump is moving fast because of those that you mentioned and others, are progressing swiftly in opposition to him. No matter what Trump does, the Main Stream Media will blow it out of proportion. The far Left and the far Right look as if their crazy to begin with.
Msmichelle is correct on her January 30th statement, “Pres Trump has to "Amp up" and forcelessly force his policies through otherwise We will not survive 2020”. And she is absolutely correct with, “focus on getting my "Own House" in order via my own thoughts, my own actions instead of worrying about the White House and make sure I am at Peace Harmony...... and prepared for any and everything”
That being said, also on January 30th, Scott has provided information from Christian regarding civil wars in the U.S. being inevitable or could they be averted?
It may seem like a daunting task, but;
“…it is not impossible that they can be
prevented”.
“It would require that the great bulk of the US people would immediately wake up from their hatred, paranoia and religious narrow-mindedness etc. That's requirement one.”
“…simultaneously, the overall greed for material profit among the "elite" should change to a substantial degree to a perspective of decency, modesty and welfare etc. for the entire society. That's requirement two.”
“…the shadow government (which is directing the course of the USA behind the official government and unknown to it) would have to make a 180° turn of its long-term objectives of ruling and exploiting the entire planet. And all of this would have to occur extremely fast…”
“Everything depends on the thinking of the people.”
There is light at the end of the tunnel if we focus on the aforementioned five statements from Christian, and not creating an undesired destiny from focusing on the iniquitous (bad) concerns.
Kenneth |
Newinitiation
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Post Number: 1743
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 31, 2017 - 08:02 pm: |
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Hey Afonso you should read this first.
It might give you a clue as to why Billy says what he says and how he says about the likes of Van Helsing and David Icke.
$$$$$$ $$$$$$ $$$$$$
https://unifiedserenity.wordpress.com/2012/09/28/jordan-maxwell-revealed-accused-of-being-a-fraud/ |
Newinitiation
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Post Number: 1744
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 31, 2017 - 08:15 pm: |
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No Norm Trump should move even quicker
He knows it and everyone else within his Admin knows that they don't have much time.
It has to be full spectrum go go go before the dark order moves in.
The chances are that that I think Trump knows even more about the nature of secret shadow government and how dangerous they are than he could have ever envisaged as a result of being briefed.
Getting as much done I think is his number 1 priority.
Man he does definitely need to get the FBI to investigate everyone on that list of all the people who represent the shadow cabal. |
Tat_tvam_asi
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Post Number: 552
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 01, 2017 - 04:52 am: |
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NewInitiation:
RE. “I think [that] Trump knows even more about the nature of secret shadow government and how dangerous they are than he could have ever envisaged as a result of being briefed…”
Christian Frehner is in close contact with Billy.
According to him it would seem that the US government does either not know about the shadow government at all or it knows that it exists but does not know that it directs the course of the USA:
“…And above all, the shadow government (which is directing the course of the USA behind the official government and unknown to it) would have to make a 180° turn of its long-term objectives of ruling and exploiting the entire planet... “
(But this is - as is yours - only stating an opinion) |
Michael_horn
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Post Number: 1264
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 01, 2017 - 07:18 am: |
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Please see:
Misguided
http://theyflyblog.com/?p=4305 |
Afonso11
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Post Number: 15
Registered: 02-2016
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 01, 2017 - 08:14 am: |
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newinitiation, thanks for the info. I have had reservations about Maxwell and icke and many others over the years mainly because, to me, it seems that they do what many of the tv shows on ufos do- they take some factual evidence, introduce a hypothetical theory, and then run with the speculation up to the end of the show. what you suggest ($$$$$) as the motivating factor seems to be correct. but money is mearly a vehicle for implementing their agenda- "ownership" and control of EVERYTHING. money (fiat currencies) is the "blood" that keeps the beast alive. but "currency" is not "money". currency is a promise to pay. pay with what? well, since Nixon in '71 and his closing of the "gold window", the u.s. dollar is de facto backed by oil- the notorious "petrodollar". my point is that currency has to remain linked with something tangible of perceived value in order to fulfill it's role as a currency with confidence of the people using it. this is why the cabal is panicking, in my opinion, and is forced now to push the agenda faster. but they can't get a hold of the true money- the approximately 1,700,000 tons, that's tons with a "t", of gold on deposit in the accounts of the global debt facility established by the nations after world war II to prevent the same events that led up to the world war. they have certainly tried to access those accounts but have been repelled each and every time. the gold that was set aside and held sequestered until 2005 is the REAL BASIS for the compounded interest on the treaty of versaille bonds (q.v) that were issued and are now due. due to who? the global debt facility administering it for the benefit of humanity. humanity's gold. humanity's sweat and toil. stolen from humanity and then re-taken by the efforts of jose rizal and Ferdinand marcos. so humanity itself is in control of the true wealth of the world and not the elites. but since not enough people really know this, they are turning their attention to the things that are being told them and not to the reality of the matter. the cabal is instigating everywhere it can because they know their days are numbered if they don't achieve the desired result of confusion, division, and chaos, which would veil all their shenanigans from the world and allow them to seem like heroes later when they roll out the "solutions" to the problems they themselves have created. the veil of secrecy has been torn. they are being outed left and right. the instant they go on the attack they out themselves. let them. the two main tools of this cabal that has been in existence for centuries are secrecy and lots and lots of money. take away these two and they are hamstrung. if the people of the world absorb and understand the impact of these words then they would realize the true power they have for change. they would realize that to help solve the problems of the world all they need to do is remove consent. they are continuing with their agenda because they still have the consent of the people. because the people, through misdirection, see only "adversaries", "opposing teams", etc., and remain polarized in perspective and in thought. "everything depends on the thinking of the people"- so true. "the shadow government would need to make a 180 degree turn of it's long-term objectives of ruling and exploiting the entire planet". who has instilled these "hateful, paranoid, and religious narrow-mindedness" narratives into the minds of people? who would benefit from the consent of the peope regarding these negative concepts? the same people that are now scrambling to maintain that consent through propaganda, misdirection, and outright lies. if, and only if, the people wake up (as mr. freiner states) can the people see that all they need to do to get things back on a positive track with regards to humanity's future survival and prosperity is to start by retracting their CONSENT. and doing so without gewalt, without force as violence, without the will directed towards control, with "gentler", but no less forceful, means. anybody got any ideas about how this can be achieved? not just talked about, but truly achieved? it's up to us. from the "lowliest" of us to the most "lofty". or is it that some should be excluded from the process of betterment of the world? that, in my mind , would be falling into the same trap that many of the "elites" have fallen into where they are so involved negatively and know they can't extricate themselves even if they wanted to, further causing damage, perhaps, to the consciousness. the following is right up the alley of many contributors to this forum, so please check it out, or don't, it's on you: Lifting The Veil" by timothy silver. (wanttoknow.info/mk/liftingtheveil)
and if you give the information any value and importance in your search for the truth then you can thank ms. hudes yourself. peace. |
Historeed
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Post Number: 92
Registered: 09-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 01, 2017 - 09:12 am: |
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She's back again...this time to cash-in on her humiliating defeat to Trump.
"Hillary Clinton reflects on election loss to Trump in new book"
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/hillary-clinton-reflects-on-election-loss-to-trump-in-new-book-w464310?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_content=daily&utm_campaign=020117_11
Matthew Reed
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Redbeard
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Post Number: 287
Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 01, 2017 - 09:57 am: |
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Wow Michael, I'm grieved to hear about A. Merkel being so messed up. This world is so immature, confused and deluded. So Europe is in trouble too, I guess we'll all be in for some serious action soon.
We must keep the peace meditation going and try to influence those capable of free thinking..
Peace, Matt |
Michaelhelfert
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Post Number: 624
Registered: 09-2011
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 01, 2017 - 11:24 am: |
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News:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqUzs-wsRZM
David Seaman, who has been researching Pizzagate (ad nauseum...), and is a credible source.
Speculates on coming disclosure.
De quien sabes...
Life
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Joseph_emmanuel
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Post Number: 121
Registered: 05-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 01, 2017 - 02:34 pm: |
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Hi,
I'm from the UK. I just wanted to share this bit of news, if any of you are keeping up with it.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-38833883
Initially I wanted to remain in the EU, but then I saw a documentary about the EU and it made me change my mind. I am thrilled that our politicians have voted to back Article 50 of the Brexit process. I don't know what this will ultimately mean for us in the UK, but I genuinely believe we're better of outside of the EU.
Joseph |
Norm
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Post Number: 41
Registered: 12-2016
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 01, 2017 - 07:02 pm: |
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McCain & George Soros in Davos.
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Votan
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Post Number: 682
Registered: 12-2011
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 01, 2017 - 10:07 pm: |
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Afonso11
Very interesting stuff. It helps to break up the sentences for easy reading. Thanks
joe
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Newinitiation
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Post Number: 1745
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, February 02, 2017 - 04:17 am: |
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Hi Tat/bill
yes you are right it is my own speculation, assumption and opinion unless otherwise noted with such a term as 'billy stated', 'Plejaren said',' in the contact notes' etc
Trump knows far more than people give him credit for.
I don't know whether you have seen Trumps various speeches but among so many of what he has said, he said this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYozWHBIf8g
Trumps interview with Alex Jones.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJqLAleEnKw
FULL Donald Trump Exposes Hillary Clinton Donors George Soros & Warren Buffet At Colorado Rally
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SAAzoaat9I
Of course there is more |
Newinitiation
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Post Number: 1746
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, February 02, 2017 - 04:33 am: |
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Afonso don't take Hudes information as gospel although you would be astute enough to have already recognised that.
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2015/12/karen-hudes-claims-im-vatican-agent-heres-evidence-counter-claim-challenge-know-comprehensive-facts-allies-victory-01-empire.html
Taking into consideration both side of the issue/argument/pros and con etc Hudes said many things ever since she came out but what I still want to know after listening to her for the last 4-5 odd years is where is the tangible proof and evidence to back up her claims in the form of verifiable documentation.
She goes on about her sources but then so does the evangelicals who heard the voice of god but I am more interested in not so much the video footage of penultimate ET UFO landing in the Whitehouse lawn stuff but just something to go by that actually backs up her many claims.
Its not too much to ask yet she is all talk but no paper. |
Newinitiation
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Post Number: 1747
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, February 02, 2017 - 04:42 am: |
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Michael Horn that article was very well written
Really well done.
I admire people who have a knack with words especially this disastrous thing called the English language.
If our eyes are a window to our so called souls then the language is a window to our consciousness and the poor spirit that is trapped in that confined space.
Speaking of space and in keeping with the spirit of things we earthlings need a new space suit |
Newinitiation
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Post Number: 1748
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, February 02, 2017 - 04:56 am: |
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Gee Mathew Reed I hope she has included the bit about...
UNCLASSIFIED U.S. Department of State Case No. F-2014-20439 Doc No. C05764911 Date: 07/31/2015 With fingers crossed, the old rabbit's foot out of the box in the attic, I will be sacrificing a chicken in the backyard to Moloch .
Satanic Kentucky Fried Chicken sacrifice or just an innocent sesame street or open wide come inside its playschool lingo? |
Newinitiation
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Post Number: 1749
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, February 02, 2017 - 05:03 am: |
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Norm as they say a picture is worth a thousand soroses and frankly guess who is dictating to whom. |
Newinitiation
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Post Number: 1750
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, February 02, 2017 - 05:04 am: |
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Michael he is one genuine journalist doing his job the way all journalists were meant to. |
Michaelhelfert
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Post Number: 625
Registered: 09-2011
| | Posted on Thursday, February 02, 2017 - 05:47 am: |
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Newinitiation, Seaman lacks the benefit of our perspective, but he still manages to check a number of pertinent boxes. He has some respect as an independent journalist, and may be open to discourse about the Meier material.
Will anyone admit to having composed a FIGU letter for Trump, yet?
Life
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Norm
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Post Number: 42
Registered: 12-2016
| | Posted on Thursday, February 02, 2017 - 05:47 pm: |
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Joseph_emmanuel, Did you read what Billy & Ptaah said over the years about the EU? I suggest you do a search on that info. |
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