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Msmichelle
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Post Number: 264
Registered: 02-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, February 23, 2017 - 06:38 am: | 
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What has gone "Bad" is our Inability to distinguish between Fake and Reality..... these fake headlines have been around since President Washington... in one form of another they have all been Fake.... once again Some of you are Undermining the Mission with your playground antics....
MsMichelle
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Bronzedesk
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Post Number: 186
Registered: 01-2011
| | Posted on Thursday, February 23, 2017 - 09:02 am: |
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We seem to be more politically minded and world engrossed in other than our original agenda... self-realization through the studying the teachings of Nokodomion's spirit form through Billy.
There is so much to learn and reflect on!
Msmichelle... Good Call!
And the end of all our exploring, will be to arrive where we started, and know the place for the first time.
~ T. S. Eliot
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Norm
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Post Number: 67
Registered: 12-2016
| | Posted on Thursday, February 23, 2017 - 03:54 pm: |
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Why would Obama do this? Give more power to the very people Billy warns us about. It is a Fact not Fake. Look it up! Read that link too. And if you think its good that he did this please explain?
One month ago, the New York Times reported that "In its final days, the Obama administration expanded the power of the National Security Agency to share globally intercepted personal communications with the government’s 16 other intelligence agencies before applying privacy protections."
The new rules significantly relax longstanding limits on what the N.S.A. may do with the information gathered by its most powerful surveillance operations, which are largely unregulated by American wiretapping laws. These include collecting satellite transmissions, phone calls and emails that cross network switches abroad, and messages between people abroad that cross domestic network switches. The change means that far more officials will be searching through raw data. Essentially, the government is reducing the risk that the N.S.A. will fail to recognize that a piece of information would be valuable to another agency, but increasing the risk that officials will see private information about innocent people. In other words, what until recently was a trickle of private data captured about US individuals by the NSA with only a handful of people having full, immersive access, suddenly became a firehose with thousands of potential witnesses across 16 other agencies, each of whom suddenly became a potential source of leaks about ideological political opponents. And with the universe of potential "leaking" culprits suddenly exploding exponentially, good luck finding the responsible party.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-18/jay-sekulow-obama-should-be-held-accountable-soft-coup-attempt-against-trump |
Norm
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Post Number: 68
Registered: 12-2016
| | Posted on Thursday, February 23, 2017 - 04:57 pm: |
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Is the liberal MSM waking up to the Monster they have been helping?
Are We Witnessing a Coup Operation Against the Trump White House?
https://www.thenation.com/article/are-we-witnessing-a-coup-operation-against-the-trump-white-house/ |
Historeed
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Post Number: 102
Registered: 09-2008
| | Posted on Friday, February 24, 2017 - 05:05 am: |
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Norm,
"Why would Obama do this? Give more power to the very people Billy warns us about."
- You know the answer...Obama was co-opted by the Deep State, like Billy said.
"Is the liberal MSM waking up to the Monster they have been helping?"
- any rational, non-partisan person is aware of the Deep State
I'm getting worn-out by politics...I think the only way for me to make a positive change in the world is for me to start positively changing myself according to the Creational-Natural laws & recommendations.
Matthew Reed
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Msmichelle
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Post Number: 267
Registered: 02-2010
| | Posted on Friday, February 24, 2017 - 10:52 am: |
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Norm has nothing but time on his hands
MsMichelle
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Norm
Member
Post Number: 69
Registered: 12-2016
| | Posted on Friday, February 24, 2017 - 12:03 pm: |
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Historeed, At some point you have to make a stand. I guess this doesn't apply anymore. "Give me Liberty or Give me Death" - Patrick Henry.
BTW do you think I'm enjoying this! |
Newinitiation
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Post Number: 1760
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Friday, February 24, 2017 - 01:28 pm: |
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This thread is the busiest.
Its part of figu forum
There is a good reason for this threads creation and why fellow forum members are interested in it.
Although this forum is by no means a political discussion forum, politics is part and parcel of everyday life that happens to have so much power over the fate and the lives of billions of people all across the world in this primitive 21st century therefore a good reason why people are talking about it.
Spiritual journey for the lack of a better word is a personal endeavour that you and you alone can only persue out of your own volition where no one else can do it for you.
Therefore since its a personal journey unique to your own understanding and effort no matter how many ideas and perspectives you derive from other forum members here, at the end of the day, the insights, cognition, recognitions, understanding, ideas, thoughts, feelings, impulses and awareness should be derived from whatever material you choose to think about through your own syriving and personal discernment out of your own powers of thought.
So the brief discussion centred around politics here is I believe not at the expense of spiritual study but in conjunction with it so it does and can also facilitate it.
This forum is becoming a much more powerful avenue to sway people's decisions outside of the participants here as everyone knows by now some very powerful people and groups do derive ideas and inspiration and even their decision making from this forum, theyfly and other figu related sites.
So if you expand your horizon a little bit this platform is so much more in this 21st century than it is 'just a forum' where you discuss about billy and the ST.
But obviously thank you Msmichelle and Bronzedesk for giving me the impetus to write the only inevitable response out of the cause you bring to the table here that facilitated it because without it there would've been nothing.
Cheers |
Newinitiation
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Post Number: 1761
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Friday, February 24, 2017 - 02:48 pm: |
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Group within a group who play of against each other.
An interesting statement by Billy you can read so much into.
President Putin is fantastic.
If it was any other lesser person like Zirinovski, Breznev or Yeltsin we would have already had WW3/4.
It is through the clear headed and level headed restraint and moral dignity of Putin that catastrophic disaster and a world war was and is avoided thus far amidst so much provocations by the Dark Order puppets in the US salivating for an epic war with Russia so that they can rid the world of billions of useless eaters for their work out plan to take over the world 'Hunger Game' style.
I hope it stays that way
Yet Putin can only be patient for so long.
Trump is a decent one man effort in the face of so many betrayers within his own admin and outside of it.
His task is monumental which is why the US citizens should wake the F### up for their own sake and get behind their own president to oust this evil and wretched elite paedophile scums running the US and the world right now.
For how much longer are the citizens going to abeit these Dark forces who are chomping away at their freedoms and rights through their ignorance, apathy and brainwashdom.
How many more unnecessary conflicts and wars must they tolerate before they finally realise what the end game is which by then would be too late.
How many more Breibarts, Hicks, Snowdens, Mannings, Assanges, Carlins, Jones, Drudges, and what have you will it take for the dumb down overly phantasmogorified masses to wake the hell up from their zombified extremely propagandized brains and become part of the change they would like the world to be.
How many pizzagate, pedogate, PodestaBeatTheHellOutOfAKidgate, CometKillRoomPizzariagate, BestaStayOutOfLimelightPizzariagate, DarkOrderLetsPlanGetTrumpgate, SorosFundsRiotersgate, ClintonSacrificeChickengate, HillaryGrovelsLynRothschildgate, CFRNeoConConspiracyAgainstTrumpgate, BilderbergPlanForAWW3gate, MikaBrzinskiGaffegate, ChildTraffickinggate, ChildPorngate, GlennBeckShutMyMouthgate, HastertIRapeLittleChildrengate, RoyalFamilyAndrewPedogate, BiBiLetsGetDNCObamagate, CIAEavesdropMikeFlynngate, FakeNewsgate, BlameitontheRussiangate, GoGetPutingate, InternetCensorshipgate, MSMattackTrumpgate, WhiteHouseBuggedgate, PreibusIHateTrumpgate, PenceMyBestFriendIsAPedogate, RatRyanFundedBySorosgate, BidenTouchyFeelyLittleChildrenOutInTheOpengate, ObamaTheScapegoatgate, MerkleBringDownGermanygate, FBICan'tDoAnythinggate, AnotherFalseFlagOpInUSgate, WeatherWarfareAgainstIranChinaRussiagate, SabotageLaPenForPresidentgate, ShutFarageUpgate, GallowayToTheGallowsgate, BringDownAssadgate, SurroundRussiagate, BezosZuckerbergLackeysForGlobalistgate, FederalReserveCrashTheEconomygate, AnotherHighSchollShootinggate, TEPCOHideFukushimaDisasterAtAllCostgate, WeMightHaveToInitiateProjectBluebeamRightNowgate, WeLoveNoNewsForIsraelgate, PalestineGettingSettledOutOfExistencegate, HillaryGettingReadyToBecomePresidentShouldTrumpFallgate, SuppressEverythingBillyMeierRelatedgate and so on before there actually is real positive change.
But hey there is already a revolution similar to Kick Out the Gizeh Intel to Beta Centari underway I guess. |
Newinitiation
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Post Number: 1762
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Friday, February 24, 2017 - 03:45 pm: |
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Norm MSM is the mouth of the monster.
I am not talking about the one attached to the face either.
That why when you see MSM only poo comes out of it
MSM is only undermining itself by doing what they do.
The masses are sick and tired of being sick and tired of all the lies and propaganda by the MSM.
They are turning away in droves and rightly so.
The MSM is holding on to its last breath.
The alternative media is fast becoming the mainstream media where more and more people are relying on for their daily breifing.
The inner stirrings and yearning of people for the truth is irrepressible and cannot be denied.
The only challenge for them lies in what MsMichelle said, to distinguish between lies and truth.
As Jmmanuel said sift the wheat from the chaff
There is plenty of sifting going on right now and when the dust settles we'll end up by 2029 with vast majority of people recognising that Billy Meier's contact case was genuine and what he said all along was the unblemished truth of all truths.
What is happening right now with all the goings on in politics and scientific discoveries I think is what the road is paved towards.
So as more people take interest in world events, various subject and topical matters and also politics out of the various truths unearthed in the process the natural culmination point is towards the Billy Meier's contact case.
People aren't ready just yet as more life experiences and certain events must transpire for them to obtain that missing key but I think it'll eventually happen soon enough. |
Newinitiation
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Post Number: 1763
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Friday, February 24, 2017 - 03:21 pm: |
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Norm every cat and dog knows by now that Obama was compromised, weakened, threatened, betrayed, scapegoated, and forced to follow orders.
In his final day don't you think that the Dark state would've ordered him to do just that so that not only could they maintain one other avenue of power but another means to eavedrop on everything Trump and his admin says so that they can bring it down which is already happening with the fall of Flynn who knew too much regarding pizzagate.
Whitehouse is bugged to the max non locally so anything that goes on in there doesn't even have to be leaked by Pribus and his scum staffers for the Dark state to know what is going on.
Trump and his staffers should put a sticker over the little cameras both back and rear of their smart phones and muffle the speakers by placing it inside a sound proof pocket or pouch when in meetings and if possible communicate with hand written notes Snowden and Greenwald style.
This is what Putin does in sensitive high level meetings why not Trump.
Unless the insiders like Preibus's staffers leak information this is the only way that they can secure themselves from NSA and secret service eavesdropping.
Soundwaves bouncing off walls can be detected by sophisticated equipments that don't rely on bugs and thermal imaging devices see through walls that can detect people inside the room.
I've heard that there are far more sophisticated eavesdropping technologies than this operated through beaming waves into a target location similar to how HARRP works or ultra sound that can detect disturbances within a given space operated at a distance even on satellite platforms detecting more that just sound and physical movements so even having a faraday cage around Trumps oval office may not help prevent eavedropping.
Just go pen and paper and hand signals only the participants can understand.
Its not effient way of communicating but it'll do the job.
Unless Trump and his staffers master telepathy there is no other option. |
Norm
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Post Number: 71
Registered: 12-2016
| | Posted on Saturday, February 25, 2017 - 12:15 pm: |
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You guys Obama is a Leftist so some of this stuff he did is his own beliefs & inline with Globalism. They din't have to threaten him on everything! |
Newinitiation
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Post Number: 1764
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Monday, February 27, 2017 - 12:51 am: |
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When a person is threatened and extremely cornered, even one serious life changing threat could linger forever inside of their consciousness 24/7/365 like a person being aware of a cctv camera over their heads which then compels them to censure themselves and it doesn't matter that the chain around the dog's neck is rusted and worn out and it can free itself anytime it wants to but it won't try due to conditioning.
Obviously we weren't there but taking Ptaah's words at face value because he was there or at least had the technologY to know for certain I think it would not be far fetched to use this analogy and liken it to this in that Biden tells and strongly demands to the president 'God dammit I've worked my ass off to help keep you alive all these years as your handler now why shouldn't I deserve a meddle of freedom Barack'
So the implied message is clear by reading between the lines.
In the same fashion someone within Obamas circle must've said 'Mr president before your term expires these are the most urgent agendas that must be put through and I mean right now otherwise God knows what that narcissistic SOB is going to reveal about your involvement with the Clintons not to mention that photo of you and 12 year old chan on your lap when he gets into the whitehouse'
What the Rothschilds wants they will certainly get |
Msmichelle
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Post Number: 268
Registered: 02-2010
| | Posted on Monday, February 27, 2017 - 01:28 am: |
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Is obvious is going to take some time for many of us to get over "Monday night quarterbacking" ( the notorious Talking Heads) about the happenings on this planet... all of these type of Discussions are happening with various topics... whether it is sports-related... political.... the Delusion to appear to be more intellectually prowess over the next one.... I would say 90% of the information on the internet involves the so-called intellectuals battling over who's right ...who's left.. who's up ...Who's down ...who's in ...who's out.....IMO... these arguments are nothing more than an attempt to ease our anxieties... our uncertainties... some of us have No control over our lives therefore We project onto others such as the celebrities, politicians or anyone with presumed Power... not to mention, some of us are extremely jealous and suffer from sexual dysfunction... most importantly We lack genuine intimacy... at any rate get back to your video games, PlayStation and your un-virtual reality
MsMichelle
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Historeed
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Post Number: 103
Registered: 09-2008
| | Posted on Monday, February 27, 2017 - 04:53 am: |
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Norm,
I don't think anyone is saying Obama is/was perfect. He clearly made many mistakes. Yet, I don't think he had pure-evil in his heart like many on the far-Right like to imply. I wonder how long until Trump has to take full responsibility for his actions and not keep blaming Obama...one year? Two years?
Matthew Reed
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Norm
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Post Number: 72
Registered: 12-2016
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 01, 2017 - 11:41 pm: |
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They are going to take Trump down to one person at a time.
AG Sessions Accused Of Lying To Congress Over Contact With Russian Ambassador
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-03-01/ag-sessions-accused-lying-congress-over-contact-russian-ambassador
NEWLY-DECLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS SHOW THAT A SENIOR CIA AGENT AND DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF THE DIRECTORATE OF INTELLIGENCE WORKED CLOSELY WITH OWNERS AND JOURNALISTS WITH MANY OF THE LARGEST MEDIA OUTLETS
http://tinyurl.com/h5h2d2v |
Msmichelle
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Post Number: 270
Registered: 02-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, March 02, 2017 - 06:30 am: |
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FYI......links with "tinyurl" are Pay for click links.....in order words....Marketing and Advertising
MsMichelle
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Historeed
Member
Post Number: 104
Registered: 09-2008
| | Posted on Thursday, March 02, 2017 - 06:36 am: |
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"There’s a reason that those who were so eager for U.S. military intervention in both Syria and Ukraine were so passionately supportive of Clinton. They knew there was a high likelihood that she would do what Obama refused to do: risk war with Russia in pursuit of these foreign policy goals."
https://theintercept.com/2017/02/28/the-new-yorkers-big-cover-story-reveals-five-uncomfortable-truths-about-u-s-and-russia/
Matthew Reed
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Newinitiation
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Post Number: 1765
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, March 04, 2017 - 10:50 pm: |
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Maybe just maybe a small faction of the Dark Order might turn around for the positive.
Being so sick and tired of hyper stress and conscience riddled with guilt at all the devastation their action have wrought upon society exacerbated by in your face news on the internet which reminds them of their wrong doing their conscience might finally have gotten the better of them at old age and has compelled them to ask themselves 'gee what in the end was all my actions about when misery is all that I have at this latter stage in my life, I am sick and tired of bottling all this up inside of me, I am sick and fed up with all this two faced duplicity and feigning, I've had enough with playing the master of the multiverse, I want out, I want to be free from all this wretchedness and downright misery that has brought me depression and pangs of guilt, what for in the end when I have all the money in the world to enjoy myself for once'
Even the worst of the worst psychopathic killers experience pangs of remorse and guilt no matter how bad they are.
Maybe one two three from this group within a group who play off against each other might come out of the woodworks to reveal all so that they can alleviate their overburdened conscience after all these years especially after suffering from terminal illness where they have nothing to lose.
Like Howard E Hunt and after judging the world to be more receptive and conducive for these kinds of revelations some within this Dark Order group may come out of the closet to reveal all there is to know.
As Ptaah and Billy talked about the future depends on what the people within this group decides to do and this implying that some may turn around for the better and help the cause for the betterment of humanity. |
Newinitiation
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Post Number: 1766
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, March 04, 2017 - 11:27 pm: |
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Gee Mr President there are so many highrise buildings and apartments around your Trump tower don't you think thay maybe Jason Bourne was watching your every move when you had the curtains opened.
Didn't you tell your staff during your Russian trip to watch their actions as you never know how many tiny surveillance camera in their hotel rooms might be watching.
So why would it come as any surprise to you to learn that Obama's staffers were tapping your Trump Tower phones.
Didn't you know that every presidential hopefuls are surveilled by the secret service the second they anounce their intention to run.
Didn't you know that you were surveilled long before you made your intentions known to run for president on your first attempt.
Didn't you know that there exists a dossier of you already for many decades when during your many interviews especially with Oprah back in 1988 that you set off some alarm bells.
Didn't you also know that there are separate surveillance files on your children and your administration staffers as well.
Didn't you know that some staffs who work for the Trump organisation is co opted and are spying for your adversaries.
If I were you I would seriously look into all your household computers and ones at the Trump organisation.
Please also look into fiber optics and cables running out of the Trump Tower and also your internet service provider.
As for your phone don't bother.
President Trump just go pen and paper the way the oldies used to have it. |
Joseph_emmanuel
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Post Number: 164
Registered: 05-2004
| | Posted on Monday, March 06, 2017 - 11:39 am: |
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Is it right for a government to outlaw racism when people are not ready to have other races integrate into their society? Should people be forced to receive other races into their society? Of course, violence is unlawful and should not be condoned. But racism as a feeling, is it right for this to be suppressed in people? I have always believed that prejudice is natural and that every single person in the world is prejudiced in some way, to some extent, towards others. Prejudice is a feeling that stems from discrimination, which is an ideation that is projected from false or true judgement. Everybody judges. Perhaps we shouldn't judge others, but that is part of our learning. Should we be made to learn something we are not yet ready to learn? Can a lesson ever be learned that way? And if not, how are people with racist feelings expected to live among other races, and vice versa? |
Historeed
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Post Number: 106
Registered: 09-2008
| | Posted on Monday, March 06, 2017 - 01:27 pm: |
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Joseph_emmanuel,
"Is it right for a government to outlaw racism when people are not ready to have other races integrate into their society? Should people be forced to receive other races into their society?"
Racism can't be legislated away, but equality of opportunity should be enforced by law, in my opinion. As far as multiculturalism goes, the USA is unique in that black Africans were forcibly brought here as slaves, the Native Americans were forcibly removed/concentrated in reservations, and Mexicans were deprived of much of the Southwest & California. Therefore, in my opinion, it's hard to discern who is genuinely a "real" American and who gets to say ultimately what "American culture" actually is.
Matthew Reed
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Hugo
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Post Number: 354
Registered: 04-2015
| | Posted on Monday, March 06, 2017 - 01:45 pm: |
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Joseph_emmanuel, I just don't want them incompatible Islamic bs refugees to come live in our Western societies. They hate the West where they come from. They come masquerading as refugees to live off free welfare money. They will divide our nations with no-go zones. They will treat our women with great disrespect and many will get bashed or raped. And they will even try to push their barbaric sharia law onto us. Anyone who is for that has rocks in their heads. Our Leftists politicians should all be removed from power immediately and Merkel should be trialed and jailed for treason. |
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