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Justsayno
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Post Number: 777
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Posted on Monday, March 06, 2017 - 01:49 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Joseph in Canada the stupid liberals are currently trying to ram an anti- Islamaphobia bill through parliament. The wording is not specific, so no one is sure if we will still be able to talk about their gender inequality. I think it's wrong because it doesn't protect any other religion, and will limit our free speech. Plus I'm not into protecting anyone's religion from criticism. Looks like the Muslim professor was right all along.
Good, better, best. May you never rest, until your good is better, and your better best.
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Norm
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Posted on Monday, March 06, 2017 - 08:16 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Msmichelle, tiny URL does not make you read an add or anything. It takes you right to the page.

I Watched the movie Snowden today what an eye-opener and it relates a lot to what going on with Trump & the deep state right now.
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Votan
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Posted on Monday, March 06, 2017 - 09:02 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Historeed

Easy the real Americans are the native Indians. They were there first until the Poms arrived and stuffed everything up. Same in Africa, China and Australia.
joe
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Joseph_emmanuel
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Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2017 - 07:11 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I've just read that Russia could join the EU as a result of Brexit. Does anyone know anything about this? I don't recall reading anything about this in the prophesies, but maybe I missed it.
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Joe
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Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2017 - 11:12 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Joseph_emmanuel,

Russia will never join the EU, at least not anytime soon!
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Justsayno
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Posted on Tuesday, March 07, 2017 - 12:09 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Norm, Snowden was an excellent movie and Edward Snowden claims that it's pretty true to what really happened.
Good, better, best. May you never rest, until your good is better, and your better best.
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Newinitiation
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Posted on Wednesday, March 08, 2017 - 07:55 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Although vault 7 revelation was nothing new and people have known about NSA and CIA's electronic spying program for many years especially through James Bamford's revelations what this latest release of documents have done is unequivocally and without a shadow of doubt proved once and for all that Billy and the Plejaren's prophetic accuracy and hence that there is indeed ETs contacting face to face a bloke named Billy Meier from Switzerland.

What it also has done is unequivocally lent credence to all other information that came from Billy Meier some good but most bad regarding the current and future state of earth mankind.

This then leaves nothing for the skeptics to find a hole in this contact case as its a superfluous exercise from hereon therefore they should shut up and start listening to Billy.

So what is left to do?

Well live and help live.
Read read read the plethora of info coming from Billy
Spread the word
Talk about it online
Provide links
Be patient
Have confidence in the laws of the inevitable cause and the eventual effect meaning not right now but people will eventually come to when they obtain that missing key
If its difficult to live by the laws of Creation then at least try whenever people get the chance
Try to heed Billy and the Plejaren advice individually and collectively.
Mainstream it meaning some of the lingo used may sound odd coming from Billy and Plejaren so without falsifying it even unintentionally word your speech according to the current times when talking about it and if possible provide links.
Be yourself with worts and all when talking about this case nothing more nothing less than the current self of this era and from the current perspective of a person from this era without exalting oneself.
KISS your language.
Don't missionize.
Think about it.
Draw your own conclusions but get your facts in order first through research rather than letting others do your thinking.
Get relgion out of it rather keep religion out of it.
Reality is much more stranger than fiction so entertain all possibilities.
What you don't know you don't know and there are unknown unknowns you don't know about therefore don't dismiss what Billy says too prematurely.
In the end its about the truth truth truth.
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Newinitiation
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Posted on Thursday, March 09, 2017 - 12:52 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hacking into and monitoring phones we already allow by consent.
Every time we download apps from playstore most of them forces people to consent to their ridiculous terms and conditions otherwise you can't use them.
Most telecommunications and carriers are owned by big corp so even if you manage to somehow prevent other people from eavesdropping on your phone what you don't have control over is what the telcos will do with your info.
That is the hub of spying activity
The main trunk of it all.
Assange has been very successful at fending off the spies at his end maybe he should teach people on how to properly firewall the goons

I've been right underneath the house of former chairman of SamSung Lee Kun Hee the father of the current chairman who is embroiled in a corruption scandal.
This was a number of years ago and frankly the first thing that popped into my head when I saw his house was 'gee thats not a house its a giant faraday cage posing as a house'
From that conclusion it was inevitably clear to me that this bloke was co opted big time by the Dark Order and was assisted with some of the best technological transfers of our modern era to do with smart phone, computer and TV technology and hence why Sam Sung has grown as the most successful company in Korean history and why they account for nearly a staggering 1/4 of gross national product with revenues over $300 billion a year.

Samsung in my opinion is the biggest electronic spy hub in Korea all linked to the American military headquarters in Yongsan which in turn forwards all information to the CIA.
Now who exactly owns Samsung.
Well not exactly the Lee family

My point is spying on people especially through their phones is ubiquitously easy and even presidents aren't immuned from it.
Now who does it exactly benefit with all this information?
Gee its not hard.
The people craving world domination
What do they do with this information?
Many things obviously but information is power and knowledge is the bedrock of that power.
Imagine if you can track ever living human being living on this earth right now.
Imagine how knowing what they are thinking, saying, doing, feeling , eating, drinking, viewing, responding, knowing, meeting, where they go, what they do online, what they do for a living and so on could do for you.
You could predict the future somewhat
Using your AI quantum computers you could crunch all that data and figure out how to shape the corporate and legislative laws to put boundaries around people to elicit the response you want
You could blackmail politician to do your bidding
You could bring down abbrant Trump.
You could get the masses to protest using your electronic mind control devices.
You could bring down the twin towers using directed energy weapons
You could set off earthquakes in your favourite place like Iran, Russia, North Korea, Syria, Afghanistan, Iraq, China and so forth
You could assassinate anyone excluding Snowden and Assange or maybe not instead beam microwaves into their residence and cause cancer.
You could create hurricanes in your own country and set a pretext to dislocate so many useless eaters out of a certain area to then use that land to build highrise apartments for profit.
You can set off a falseflag operation to usher in the dreaded micro chipping.
You could use the illegal immigrants radicalised and extremist in their outlook and set them off to kill a lot of people to create a civil war.
You could use robots to replace jobs.
You could douse psychoactive chemicals in potable water, cigarettes, alcohol, foodstaff, vegetables, takeaway food, chewing gum, medication, for mind control.
You could use computer screens, plasma, OLED, smart TVs to give off electromahnetic waves for mind control.
You could use the mass media to push certain narrative to achieve your agenda.
You can use malware of adversaries to pose as them doing all the spying thereby reinforcing fake truths to leaders of the world to incite them to war.
You could kill all the expendables who know too much about black budget secret access programs.
You could kill off all the decent journalists who tell it like it is by suiciding them.
You could remotely control a vehicle and assassinate anyone you wish.
You could bring down a plane in which a subversive is boarded on.
You could engage in a drill or exercise the day you foment a real but fake terrorist attack to mske it look like the real thing and use crisis acyors for a bit of ummf
You could shut off the national power grid and blame it on Trump.
You could kill a latino and blame it on pro trump protester.
You could give IS chemical weapons and set it off in Saudi Arabia or Israel and blame it on Assad.
You could assassinate Porky as one among 7 heads of state who will die within 7 days of each other and blame it on Putin.
You could incite anti Le Pen rally and bring her down.
You could arm twist EU leadership via Merkle and have them take in more illegal aliens with terrorists embedded in them.
You could entice Oprah to run for president in 2020.
You could have the CIA assassinate Turkey's Erodgan.
You could set off a suitcase nuke in US and blame it on Putin.
You could project bluebeam the entire world with UAVs and create a fake alien invasion to start a war of the worlds scenario from your below ground cities.
You could do so many things with predictive programming and mass mind control by beaming EMP from satellites and via MSM propaganda machine.

The point is when the masses finally have access in their heads for the ultimate truth via billy and Plejaren all this machination by the Dark Order will be redundant.
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Learnmore12
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Posted on Thursday, March 09, 2017 - 07:40 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well, the fact about spying is not new to us. We already know about this and much more from Billy and the P's a long time ago. So, I was not surprised to hear this on the news. No need to look elsewhere to find the facts of what is going on in today's world!
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Newinitiation
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Posted on Friday, March 10, 2017 - 02:04 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Learnmore12 yes it was thanks to Billy and the Plejaren that we get to know so much in advance of the mainstream which BTW is fast becoming the mainstream.

You said No need to look elsewhere to find the facts of what is going on in today's world!

I don't know that this statement borders on the precarious position of belief but how else could you have determined initially whether Billy was telling the truth without 'looking elsewhere'.
If you don't look elsewhere how the heck could Billy's information be corroborated and tested.

Billy says don't believe me think for yourself then how on earth could you think for yourself without doing your own research and homework and coming to your own conclusions based on your own independent discernment and powers of thinking through other independent and unrelated sources we call 'information and news' which the whole spiritual and other information from Billy not only strongly encourages but even suggest people to do so that we don't turn this into a Meier cult religion.

The whole premise of the Meier's case revolves around the truth, namely whether it rests on the verifiable truth or whether it doesn't.
This is very important to determine as everything rests on that foundation which by way of that truth it authenticates his prophetic information as well as supporting numerous facts emerging out of his conversations with the plejaren.
But without external sources and the means of cold hard reality as proof and evidence nothing Billy said will matter even if its all the truth in the world.

Maybe your statement was off the cuff remark implying that as a supporter of Billy you were nontheless impressed by his information even though you already knew that about Meier.

I certainly am and will continue to be
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Joseph_emmanuel
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Posted on Friday, March 10, 2017 - 05:32 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well said, Newinitiation.
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Justsayno
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Posted on Friday, March 10, 2017 - 07:23 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The fact remains that's it's ILLEGAL for the CIA to spy on Americans, on American soil. Those involved should spend 35 years in jail, the same amount that any other treasonous person would spend in jail. If that doesn't happen, the deep dark order will continue to rule.
Good, better, best. May you never rest, until your good is better, and your better best.
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Joseph_emmanuel
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Posted on Friday, March 10, 2017 - 08:54 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If it wasn't for the internet we wouldn't know what is going on in the world right now because the mainstream media doesn't publish it. It is too afraid of how the public will react. But in denying us this knowledge it is making us vulnerable because we're not preparing ourselves for what is befalling us. And it is clear to me from this video that we need to prepare ourselves. The mainstream media in the UK doesn't report what is actually going on in European countries as a result of the migration crisis and Islamic extremists. If it wasn't for the brave individuals who go out of their way to report it, none of us would know.

This video on YouTube is very disturbing. It shows what is going on in countries like Sweden, Germany and France. I warn you, there is a lot of hate in this video, short as it is. I was unsettled.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBewxQUHwvo

Where I am in the UK we're not experiencing these things... yet. Everybody is still acting as though everything is normal. I dread the day when attacks on the public and our way of life arrives. I very much doubt that British people will stand for it and wait for the government to try and control it, which it won't, let's face it. At least half of our country are not deceived by what is going on, and they are very angry. I fear for the future. My feeling is, I want a gun to protect myself. But I fear it will be hopeless. The world is changing.
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Newinitiation
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Posted on Friday, March 10, 2017 - 03:16 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You've been away for awhile joseph
Good to see you back.

I strongly agree Sheila
The point you've made gets easily lost when the presstitute whores misdirect people by focusing their story on who leaked the info rather than the content of the leak just as the shills for Killary DNC Podestanista jakals have misdirected people's attention away from the content of the DNC Podesta wikileaks email leaks.

Just unbelievable how all this is going on in the open which by now should've sent a strong message to the American people just how corrupt and degenerate the political class is.
So why isn't pedophile Podesta and the Clintons in prison?
Well just as Billy said the people are powerless to do anything about it and have to just take it

I wonder what the 99% of vault 7 will reveal
There will be names I reckon but I wish there were video footage of these pedophiles in action molesting children so that it removes all doubts and they can be arrested as swiftly as hotdog contestants gulping down a hotdog and incarcerated for eternity
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Tat_tvam_asi
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Posted on Friday, March 10, 2017 - 08:38 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

S Hawkins: Without world government technology will wipe out humanity

I would not be surprised of Cambridge University professor S. Hawkins reads as well some of Billy’s messages:
Though he may still adhere to some Darwinian concepts, he mentions that our planet is in the most serious condition with overpopulation, climate change and diseases threatening our planet:

While, according to SH - in the past aggression had been a tool to master survival skills (“hard-wired into our genes by Darwinian evolution”), aggression in our time combines with a high level of technology and may easily create the scenario of a nuclear or biological war.
Because of this humanity has to learn to apply reason and logic to safeguard technology and the future of mankind.
He considers a world government “though it may become a tyranny”.

His conclusion expresses what is in the hearts of many people – irrespective of their creed and race:
“More than at any time in our history, our species needs to work together.”

In view of recent “headline news” we may add:
Anger, the state of mind characterized by looking down on others, is the source of all aggression and wars.
Peace will therefore not come from nationalist egoism and worldwide control mechanisms (like Echelon/ nuclear missiles/ HAARP etc.).

The incentive of lasting peace can only come from a heartfelt spiritual bond of equality and respect for all beings – esp. of the human kind.

Salome,

Bill

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/dec/01/stephen-hawking-dangerous-time-planet-inequality
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-4295058/Technology-DESTROY-humanity-claims-Stephen-Hawking.html

PS
In the past SH was known for his warning that artificial intelligence could “end mankind” *)
But in this most recent interview he just mentions that humanity has to retrain its thinking for a world where most daily jobs are done by robots.

*)
http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-30290540
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Kenneth
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Posted on Friday, March 10, 2017 - 10:09 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Has anybody heard of this? It appears to be factual?

Kenneth

- - - - - - - -

Muslim Spy Ring Busted in the U.S. Congress

This is a YouTube video of a newscast on a FoxNews Business program a couple of weeks ago about several Muslims (apparently hired by Obama) who were part of an IT group who had access to vital US records from Congressional data. Unbelievable! So, where is the reporting in the media?

https://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=ktqdYXd1qJQ&sns=em
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Newinitiation
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Posted on Saturday, March 11, 2017 - 01:39 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Someone on the inside the CIA has heroically turned.
Turned for the better and turned over juicy bit of damning information about the CIA and their electronic mind altering programs among many others to do with electronic warfare and surveillance.

Its becoming clear that among the sea of vault 7 documents some may involve CIA use of covert and overt mind control devices in the form of vehicle mounted to handheld devices that beam electromagnetic waves and pulses to induce and/or regulate beta, alpha, theta, delta and gamma mind state in people.

As Billy spoke about these sophisticated devices alter and subconsciously influence people to purchase luxury goods and subliminally induce them to certain actions such as buying icecreams.

So essentially these devices are deployed not just in movie cinemas, smartphones, smart TVs, computer monitors, smart meters, satellite platforms, street posts, as arsenal of military nonlethal weapons, government buildings, sports stadiums, public transport, highrise office buildings, certain hotels, UN, catherdrals and churches, shopping malls, highways, homes, but more importantly whole cities being beamed with this noxious EMP blanket making people docile, submissive, passive, unconcerned and aggressive.

Who woulda thought that anti Trump protestors were being beamed with this full spectrum electronic mind control EMPs.

Arrrrrrr

So anything is possible.

Just as even children's toys are stuffed with wifi capable surveillsnce and listening devices so goes for these mind state altering electronic covert devices that is included with just about anything electronic including household appliances.
No wonder we are seeing a drastic increase in the number of cancer causing forest of wifi towers that look like trees alongside schools, highways, suburbia, office towers, subway trains, streets, malls, and what have you.

Mind altering devices go hand in hand with surveillance equipments although they are mutually exclusive the full spectrum population control grid is tied in with the rise of internet of all things, militarization of the police, cashless society, RFID chip implanted in just about every consumer products, the ubiquity of cloud storage and wifiing all things electronic to Bush Jr signing of the legislation that give cart blanch powers to the secret service namely the CIA now you see the full effect of those causes planted much eatlier in previous administrations and the outgrowth of the stupidity and corruption of the DC establishment and politicians.

My take on a bit about the state of South Korea
People over there are so distracted that already the Dark Order surveillance grid is one of the most developed on par with UK or Brussels.

http://forum.figu.org/cgi-bin/us/discus.cgi?pg=prev&topic=14&page=15062
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Justsayno
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Posted on Saturday, March 11, 2017 - 10:59 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Matt, I always enjoy your posts. There are so many contractors and former contractors, not even the CIA has a clue who was involved in the Vault7 leak.
Good, better, best. May you never rest, until your good is better, and your better best.
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Newinitiation
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Posted on Saturday, March 11, 2017 - 06:58 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks Sheila for your kind words.

The intention behind my posts are manifold but more importantly to convert the as yet the unconverted.

If I like other fellow forum members leave traces of conversations on record here for whom the many doubters may eventual check out now and in the future where the content of some of what I said predates the mainstream news that in itself is a big deal because I am no Nostradamus or a wannabe Edgar Cayce but it shows the proof of the extraordinary powers of Billy and his human contacts from outer space where I and others here acting as a conduit to Billy info for mainstreaming it has shown with full credit to Billy that what Billy has said all along was the truth by the sheer fact of regular folks like me being able to talk about these things in advance of the mainstream as if we had somehow gleaned the future.

Sure the skepticons may refute that with 'yeah but many others were talking about all this years ago' but then how many years ago exactly?

Meier had gone on record nearly all his life
Now beat that by doing the maths through subtracting his age against all the important events of the last and this century and compare it to his record.

It may be an exercise in futility but still its unequivocally clear that what we have conduited here is also being conduited to the masses albeit without attribution by others with a bigger platform
That in itself is a positive as right now the more important issue isn't who gets the credit but whether important information is filtered out to the masses.
In a perfect world people and organisation like RT, Robert Steele and Alex Jones would just go ahead and attribute what they've gleaned from FIGU directly to Billy Meier and the Plejaren but its not yet to be
Maybe in some ways its better that way at this juncture as long as the important truth gets out that will have a cumulative effect and it becoming just second nature to the masses which will tend be more conducive for seemless transition to the wholesale Meier materials.

I do feel that for the masses to take in Billy's information all at once overnight would create a catastrophe since there are so many God deluded people out there.

I am thinking why aren't there millions or even hundreds of thousands of students of the Creational spiritual teachings right now instead of the so few we have right now and this question has already answered so many other questions for me.

If people were already ready to handle the ultimate final destination truth from Billy then this would've already been achieved.
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Norm
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Posted on Sunday, March 12, 2017 - 05:30 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

MERKEL BOMBSHELL: Chancellor didn't shut border because of how it would play on TV news

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/778196/angela-merkel-borders-migrants-book-Robin-Alexander
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Historeed
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Posted on Monday, March 13, 2017 - 04:08 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Kenneth,

"Muslim Spy Ring Busted in the U.S. Congress"

This seems to be pure speculation to me. Could it be real...sure, but then again, it could be political maneuvering to shift the blame away from Trump for the botched Yemen raid.
Matthew Reed
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Norm
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Posted on Monday, March 13, 2017 - 04:22 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Wow, this Merkel is a nut!

Merkel, Rutte agreed refugee quota in deal with Turkey, did not tell other EU leaders
https://www.rt.com/news/380581-merkel-turkey-refugee-deal/
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Norm
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Posted on Monday, March 13, 2017 - 02:24 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Historeed, Trump isn't getting away with anything. Everyone is against him. Think about it a little! Whose going to cover for him the CIA the NSA ETC.? He can't even make a phone call without the Media finding out the details of the conversation. He has to run to Mar-a-Lago to get some privacy. And even that place is probably bugged.

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