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Corey
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Post Number: 91
Registered: 10-2016
Posted on Monday, February 13, 2017 - 09:48 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Joe, regarding politicans that are unwilling to change to consider protecting the future, all I can say is what these politicans are, and what they embody, goes against the cosmic-natural Creation. This is not all of them of course, but many of them. And of course, it's up to the people to elect rational leaders who will not abuse their might, and abuse the will of the people starting with their first day in office, which is values not taught at even a rudementary educational platfrom = the value of being a knowing one, and one with equitableness that can align themselves with the Creation Universal-consciousness.

Because of stupidity such as Merkel's, and all throughout the political and scientific spectrums that has been going on for a long time (suppression of overpopulation reality) the future is going to get so bad, that tough, rational decisions are going to have to be made in the future for the survival of our species, while at the same time, our future people will have to lie in the bed made by earlier generations, and it will be a difficult slumber.

Why is it this way (suppression of overpopulation reality)? Are they just following orders? Do they just don't care? Do they purposely want to mock and disdain the warnings of a true prophet? Is it because the worst of the negative effects have yet to be reaped, and experienced (this will happen in due time)? Is it because it's not politically convenience to make the right decision? Does it boil down to sheer stupidity? All I can say is most politicans make it their business to serve the master of mammon and political might, and not the master of love, and treasures of the consciousness = no action against overpopulation until it will be (almost?) too late.

I concur with your statement that the time travelers probably outgrew overpopulation a long time ago, but there could be residual effects of past overpopulation even they have to endure = see "Goblet" 28:404.

"The Earth is full", 4 words that will define this century:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DZT6YpCsapg

Democracy will never survive overpopulation:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wSSpwdO2wEk&feature=youtu.be
Salome/Corey Müske
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Yoid
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Post Number: 114
Registered: 12-2008
Posted on Tuesday, February 14, 2017 - 09:42 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

We live among lot of people but i feel alone.
Cant connect with others.
Everyone is disinterested.
Is this my fault or something else?
Whats wrong with people?

thanks
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Norm
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Posted on Tuesday, February 14, 2017 - 01:12 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Study: Chain Migration Drives Unsustainable Population Growth
http://www.lifezette.com/polizette/chain-migration-drives-unsustainable-population-growth/?utm_content=buffer05212&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer
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Patm
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Registered: 07-2006
Posted on Thursday, March 02, 2017 - 07:20 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Good Morning Everyone,
Billy wrote a new article 28-October-2016 in which he explains in detail the following topics:

Antisemitism, stranger-enmity (xenophobia), hatred of strangers, hatred of Jews, Jew-enmity, racial hatred, racism, group-enmity, hatred of groups, neighbor-enmity, hatred of neighbors, hatred of family, society-enmity, hatred of society

from the periodical - FIGU Open Words of the Truth and Time No. 04 (February 2017)

You can download and read my translation of this article (which may contain errors) at:
https://www.creationaltruth.org/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=u3xnRjxcBfQ%3d&tabid=1235&portalid=0&mid=4428

Salome
PatM
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Historeed
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Post Number: 105
Registered: 09-2008
Posted on Friday, March 03, 2017 - 05:17 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Patm,

Thank you for providing the translation. With the continuation of the refugee/migrant crisis in Europe, it's important to remember that hatred of strangers/foreigners is never acceptable even when it's necessary to protect a nation's borders.
Matthew Reed
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Michaelhelfert
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Posted on Friday, March 03, 2017 - 06:32 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

28 pages detailing how evil I am. Thanks Pat.
Life
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Patm
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Post Number: 430
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Posted on Friday, March 03, 2017 - 11:09 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Michael,
I think most everyone including myself may have a deep rooted hostility (enmity) at least towards those that hate...???
It is in learning about the positive and negative that allows us to begin working out an understanding in a neutral-positive wise within ourselves. What we do with that understanding in our everyday life determines the essence of wisdom we achieve for ourselves in our own consciousness-development... or not ... We can't do it for anyone else.

Salome
PatM
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Patm
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Post Number: 431
Registered: 07-2006
Posted on Friday, March 03, 2017 - 11:28 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Billy's recommendation to correct this problem of hatred, enmity, etc. brought to mind the following:
http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=lyrics+to+Teach+your+children+well&view=detail&mid=B0AEE73E2EDE4B1120BEB0AEE73E2EDE4B1120BE&FORM=VIRE

Enjoy!

Salome
PatM
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Joe
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Posted on Friday, March 03, 2017 - 11:35 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Patm,

The sad truth is that none of these problems are going to simply go away any time soon mainly because of overpopulation! I honestly think that we need to first tackle the overpopulation problem by halting all births! No more births! The more overpopulated this planet will become, the more wars and hatred there will be between one race and another.
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Kenneth
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Posted on Saturday, March 04, 2017 - 12:53 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The European Union is out of control.

- - - - - - - - - - - -

EU threatens fines for failing to take in refugees:

Brussels (AFP) - The EU on Thursday stepped up warnings that countries could be punished if they fail to share the burden of mainly Syrian refugees stranded in Greece and Italy.

Migration Commissioner Dimitris Avramopoulos said member states had until September to take in 160,000 Syrian and other refugees from the two countries, which have been on the frontline of the migration crisis.

So far only 13,500 have been relocated in a process bogged down by general inertia and resistance from Eastern European states which oppose Muslim immigration.

"If we don't have tangible efforts by September... the commission will not hesitate to make use of its power," Avramopoulos, who is Greece's EU commissioner, told a news conference.

The EU has been trying to convince members states "to do their duty," he said.
"But if it is not the case in the future, infringements might be an option," he said.
As the executive branch of the 28-nation EU, the European Commission is able to launch "infringement proceedings" to impose fines on member state that break the bloc's rules.

Countries like Hungary and Slovakia have proposed paying "solidarity" contributions instead of actually taking in any migrants.
But others such as France and Germany insist that no country can shirk its duty to admit a minimum number of refugees under the plan, which was pushed through in September 2015.

The EU launched the scheme to deal with the biggest wave of refugees in its history, with more than 1.1 million arriving in 2015, most of them fleeing the conflict in Syria.

In February, EU vice president Frans Timmermans said the Commission was for the first time considering penalties for states that break the rules.

Meanwhile the Commission urged EU nations to quickly seal deals with Nigeria and Tunisia to speed up the deportation process.

The EU says most African migrants are heading to Europe for economic reasons, making them ineligible for protection like that granted to asylum seekers fleeing war or persecution.
"We want to continue to offer succour to persons in need of international protection," Timmermans said in a statement.

"We owe it to them, to our partners outside the EU, and to our citizens to be able to say clearly: when in need, we'll help, when not, you must return."

https://www.yahoo.com/news/eu-threatens-fines-failing-refugees-114644830.html?soc_src=social-sh&soc_trk=ma
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Patm
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Post Number: 432
Registered: 07-2006
Posted on Saturday, March 04, 2017 - 10:30 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Joe,

I agree with you that Overpopulation is the root cause of all our current problems of:
- Overpopulation - the root cause (see also https://creationaltruth.org/FIGU/Overpopulation/FightoftheOverpopulation.aspx)
- Environmental Protection (see also https://creationaltruth.org/FIGU/Overpopulation/EnvironmentalProtection.aspx)
- Child- and Youth-Protection (see also https://creationaltruth.org/FIGU/Overpopulation/Child-andYouth-Protection.aspx)
- Humaneness (see also https://creationaltruth.org/FIGU/Overpopulation/Humaneness.aspx)
- Equal Rights (see also https://creationaltruth.org/FIGU/Overpopulation/EqualRights.aspx)
- Torture and the Death Penalty (see also https://creationaltruth.org/FIGU/Overpopulation/TortureandDeathPenalty.aspx)
- Xenophobia and Racism (see also https://creationaltruth.org/FIGU/Overpopulation/Xenophobiaandracism.aspx)

However there is not anything that needs to be worked out first while ignoring the other problems, but rather all need to be worked out to include addressing the root cause of overpopulation as well. Teaching our children from infancy through adulthood the reality and its truth is a our and their best opportunity for a better future, this also applies to all human beings.

Salome,
PatM
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Cpl
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Posted on Saturday, March 04, 2017 - 07:38 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Perhaps someone should charge Timmermans with cultural genocide.
Chris

Use to the full both the heart and head and never lose either.
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Corey
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Registered: 10-2016
Posted on Saturday, March 11, 2017 - 03:23 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Robert McNamara, President of World Bank 1968-1981 (lived 1916 – 2009)

“Short of nuclear war itself, population growth is the gravest issue we face. If we do not act, the problem will be solved by famine, riots, insurrection and war.”

Confucius, philosopher (lived 551 – 479 BC)

“Excessive (population) growth may reduce output per worker, repress levels of living for the masses and engender strife.”

Albert Einstein, physicist (lived 1879 – 1955)

“Overpopulation in various countries has become a serious threat to the well-being of many people and a grave obstacle to any attempt to organize peace on this planet of ours.”
Salome/Corey Müske
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Corey
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Posted on Saturday, March 11, 2017 - 03:33 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Gunther Grass, author (lived 1927 – 2015)

“We already have all of the statistics we need for the future: the growth percentages of pollution, overpopulation, desertification and so on. The future is already in place.”

Henry Way Kendall, physicist (lived 1926 – 1999)

“If we do not voluntarily bring population growth under control in the next one or two decades, then nature will do it for us in the most brutal way, whether we like it or not.”

“The destruction of our environment and resources cannot be stemmed unless the growth of the world’s population is stemmed and ultimately reduced.”

“We must…guarantee women control over their own reproductive decisions.”

Martin Luther King, clergyman and activist (lived 1929 – 1968)

“Unlike plagues of the dark ages or contemporary diseases we do not yet understand, the modern plague of overpopulation is soluble by means we have discovered and with resources we possess. What is lacking is not sufficient knowledge of the solution but universal consciousness of the gravity of the problem and education of the billions who are its victims."

Aristotle, philosopher (lived 384 – 322 BC)

“One would have thought that it was even more necessary to limit population than property…The neglect of this subject, which in existing states is so common, is a never-failing cause of poverty among the citizens; and poverty is the parent of both revolution and crime.”
Salome/Corey Müske
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Tat_tvam_asi
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Posted on Saturday, March 11, 2017 - 06:13 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

“Short of nuclear war itself, population growth is the gravest issue we face. If we do not act, the problem will be solved by famine, riots, insurrection and war.”

Very true.
Thank you, Corey

Salome,

Bill

PS

• 1993 (New Delhi) Representatives of 58 science academies call for a stop in the population growth within 25 years

• 1994 (Rome/Vatican) The papal Academy of Sciences declares (against the will of the Pope) that birth control is necessary to prevent unsolvable conflicts in the future.

• 1994 (Cairo) During a “World Population Conference” most governments declared that the population crisis has to be solved.

But nothing was done in either case.
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Corey
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Post Number: 123
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Posted on Friday, March 17, 2017 - 09:45 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)



Darn forum photo limitations, but if you can read the photo on the left, the book is called "Move upstream" by (Dr) Karen I. Shragg, and thus far it is a very good read about overpopulation. The flyer on the right of the book is from her presentation about overpopulation that my study group attended last night here in Minneapolis (MN/USA). Ironically this was held in a church, and walking in (I hadn't been inside a church in decades) I was a little hesitant, and one of my study group members whispered "hey, let's use the power of our thoughts to repel the negative fluidal energies", which brought a smile to my face (repelling energetical vibrations vibrationally is a good idea). The presentation was roughly 2 hours, and I have to say for a Dr unaffiliated with the Meier case, she knows the stakes of what is at stake for not dealing with the disaster of overpopulation, and knows what will happen in the future if we maintain our "blinders" on until we are collectively woken up from our slumber when we can finally see the forest for the trees because of destruction.

Her "Move upstream" book is available on Amazon, which is full of resources in the back of the book, and in her presentation (which she also has given publicly in China) I learned it was in the 1930's, when our population surpassed the 2 billion mark, that we passed the threshold of no longer being sustainable, and what happened since the 1930's? We greedily added many billions of more humans to the mix. She also relayed that the true number our planet can sustain is actually much less then 2 billion, and she voiced anger at all these climate change movements that try to get people to change lightbulbs in an effort to be "green", and "sustainable" without addressing the root cause of overpopulation in their public addresses. She calls this working "downstream" and if one moves upstream to the source (overpopulation) we could all get things done. What stands out the most from her presentation is when she said "We must adapt to survive, even if this means we phase out outdated ideologies such as religion to preserve the human species." I raised my hand and told her I thought the people of Earth should be receiving an education about overpopulation through the television sets 24/7 because overpopulation is the most critical issue we face as a planet, and then I intelligently asked her what she thought of a planetary birth-stop, and federally mandated birth control for everyone, and she calmly told me that I was right, but that the mission has to be to educate the masses about the problem before solutions are offered, otherwise it is like asking someone to go to an operating table for a medical procedure without sharing with them what the operation is for. Pretty wise words, her presentation was so enthralling that I almost forgot I was sitting in a church, my study group made some fresh contacts regarding overpopulation, and I'll share two fresh websites that deal with overpopulation:

worldpopulationbalance.org (This has a goal of reaching population levels of only 3 billion by the year 2100. Here you can sign the "sustainable population pledge" where you will give your word of honour not to have more then one child) = read this PDF: http://www.worldpopulationbalance.org/docs/nine_billion_march_to_wwiii.pdf

growthbusters.org (this site has the "Growthbusters-addicted to growth" DVD for sale to view at your home).


Salome/Corey Müske
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Corey
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Posted on Friday, March 17, 2017 - 10:43 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)



Every once in awhile I am contacted through Facebook by people as far away from me as South Africa, or Canada by people that silently follow my posts, and appreciate the content and the learning. If I could be remembered for one thing: it would be: As "Goblet of the Truth" 4:158 states the laws and recommendations of Creation do not go according to our wishes, the laws are something we have to fall "in line" with. This planet is currently far away from these laws, and will have a lot of falling "in line" to catch up with in the future from cause and effect as a "balancing out" situation (paying the tab for previous generations' actions/of overpopulation). And when the bill comes due, we will pay in blood and tears, and God will not have an ear for our planet, because he does not exist (Gott existiert nicht/God does not exist).


Salome/Corey Müske
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Corey
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Posted on Friday, March 31, 2017 - 04:36 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The more I read the "Goblet of the Truth", the more I slowly realize the severity of the situation here on Earth in the future, and I realize how virtually unprepared Earth humanity is about the situation ( = overpopulation effects\: ).



Emma Woods, Royal Society, Head of Policy, Wellbeing (Policy Fellow, Centre for Science and Policy): "when it comes to tackling climate change and extreme weather, we ignore population at our peril."

Frank Osborn, philanthropist (1889-1981) "The process of industrialization should of itself reduce the birth rate if we are to judge by Western experience. But Asia cannot afford the time this transition took in the West"
Salome/Corey Müske
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Joe
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Posted on Sunday, April 02, 2017 - 09:14 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

We need more women sterilising themselves as an effective way of curbing overpopulation!

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/meet-young-british-women-choosing-073100245.html
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Msmichelle
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Posted on Sunday, April 02, 2017 - 12:43 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Corey, I agree, I'm thinking since the majority of the Population has an obsession with "Animals", ...possibly the perils of Overpopulation could be "demonstrated" on the Effects to the "animals" meaning, overpopulation has a devastating effects due to over-breeding of animals....not to mention the "prostitution of animals" to draw in a potential mate, boyfriend, girlfriend, etc....So, if the Humans understand the Devastation to the animals, maybe the humans will react with a sense of urgency.
MsMichelle
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Bronzedesk
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Posted on Sunday, April 02, 2017 - 06:15 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dear Joe... that is a two-way street add males to the top of the list.

Dear Msmichelle.. many of the results can be found with our obsession with animal population used as an example!

But correct me if I'm wrong all this has already taken place in Nokodejons lifetime.

And the final results that occurred and how he finally had to deal with them would not have been expected!

Some things whether or not we like it or not it just have to run their course.

Too many camps of thought out there and they can't even come to other than just an impasse of thoughts words or deeds!

It is a hard call but sterilization of everyone and everything must be equal with no exemptions... no one!

Top to bottom.

bronzedesk (Mat)
And the end of all our exploring, will be to arrive where we started, and know the place for the first time.
~ T. S. Eliot
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Norm3
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Posted on Sunday, April 02, 2017 - 05:37 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Joe, The 3rd world population is exploding. And Islamic leaders are saying we will out breed you i.e. The West. & replace you. You have the EU using population decline as an excuse to bring in migrants.
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Norm3
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Posted on Sunday, April 02, 2017 - 05:45 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hugo Whats going Down Under?

Reverse racism is now acceptable in Australia
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/rendezview/miranda-devine-reverse-racism-is-now-acceptable-in-australia/news-story/98d895ff84f8014bb3a0a5141e24f6ac

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