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Andrew_grimshaw
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Post Number: 19
Registered: 02-2017
Posted on Thursday, April 06, 2017 - 03:37 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

RE: Gas attack

Gloves Are for Sissies: Photographs Show White Helmets Are Immune to Sarin
http://russia-insider.com/en/politics/gloves-are-sissies-photographs-show-white-helmets-are-immune-sarin/ri19458
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=white+helmets+sarin&t=lm&ia=web
- The Silent Revolution of Truth -
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Tat_tvam_asi
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Post Number: 585
Registered: 04-2011
Posted on Friday, April 07, 2017 - 06:40 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

- The White House Visit -

(I) SYRIA *)
a) 59 Missiles
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/trump-weighing-military-options-following-chemical-weapons-attack-in-syria/2017/04/06/0c59603a-1ae8-11e7-9887-1a5314b56a08_story.html?utm_term=.73e458cca14c
https://news.google.com.au/?edchanged=1&ned=au&authuser=0
b) Russian Ship Underway To Assist Syrian Defence
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/world/donald-trump-considers-military-action-against-bashar-assad-regime/news-story/3a8c5bae901418be49d3ceed70a77e3b

(II) SC - SEA

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/philippines-duterte-orders-troops-to-disputed-south-china-sea-in-possible-new-rift-with-beijing/2017/04/06/8eb50e1a-1aa9-11e7-8003-f55b4c1cfae2_story.html?utm_term=.8943e007c61b

(III) N KOREA

https://www.ft.com/content/4d9f65d6-17bd-11e7-9c35-0dd2cb31823a
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Jan12, 2017:
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-northkorea-nuclear-china-russia-idUSKBN14X00J
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*)
Main questions:

The US Pres. rightly condemns the attack on innocent people.
But which sources can be trusted re. what really happened?
Did Assad really use the deadly Sarin gas bombs?
Did the rebels store them?
Rebels:
'Everyone saw the plane … bombing with gas.'— Hasan Haj Ali, Free Idlib Army
Russia:
'Have you even checked what you wrote?'— Deputy Russian UN Ambassador
Moscow's representative repeated the Kremlin's earlier claim that the gas was released when a nt iconventional airstrike hit a warehouse where rebels were secretly storing their own chemical weapons.
:
(2) What will Russia’s response be?
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Kenneth
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Post Number: 607
Registered: 04-2013
Posted on Friday, April 07, 2017 - 06:21 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Bill,

What is a nt iconventional airstrike?

Kenneth
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Joe
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Registered: 11-2008
Posted on Friday, April 07, 2017 - 12:41 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Deleted Daily Mail Online Article: “US Backed Plan for Chemical Weapon Attack in Syria to Be Blamed on Assad”

http://www.globalresearch.ca/deleted-daily-mail-online-article-us-backed-plan-for-chemical-weapon-attack-in-syria-to-be-blamed-on-assad/5339178
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Norm
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Post Number: 92
Registered: 12-2016
Posted on Friday, April 07, 2017 - 04:48 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Donald Trump carried out Syria missile strike ‘after being convinced by daughter Ivanka’
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/789399/Donald-Trump-Ivanka-Trump-Syria-Missile-Strike-Assad-US-Russia-Tomahawk
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Norm
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Post Number: 93
Registered: 12-2016
Posted on Friday, April 07, 2017 - 03:00 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The Truth About Trump's Air Strike on Syria
https://youtu.be/EXuV64hp4dk
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Norm
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Post Number: 94
Registered: 12-2016
Posted on Friday, April 07, 2017 - 05:44 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Bannon Lost To Kushner In Syria Strike Debate

http://dailycaller.com/2017/04/07/bannon-lost-to-kushner-in-syria-strike-debate/#ixzz4dc9ZExqC
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Norm
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Post Number: 95
Registered: 12-2016
Posted on Friday, April 07, 2017 - 06:34 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

This guy Kit Daniels has a very interesting perspective.

Trump’s Syria Strike: What They’re NOT Telling You
Strikes could trigger reconciliation, coalition with Russia to stop ISIS

https://www.infowars.com/trumps-syria-strike-what-theyre-not-telling-you/
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Tat_tvam_asi
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Post Number: 586
Registered: 04-2011
Posted on Saturday, April 08, 2017 - 01:55 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Kenneth,

Thank you - yes, it should read:
"... when a conventional airstrike hit a warehouse where rebels were secretly storing their own chemical weapons."
www.cbc.ca/news/world/russia-gas-attack-syria-1.4056002

Re. my previous post:

DT may have been moved by the innocent people’s terrible suffering but his advisers may have wanted to transmit as well an implicit message re. the rogue NK leader (that there is as well a limit of what the US will accept from him).

But NK is allied with China (whose PM just visits DT) and Russia who both rejected the installation of a missile shield in SK *).

Anyway – the main question is who is telling the truth re. whose weapons caused the mayhem.
There are reports of tel. calls of officials authorizing the hit – but deception is the state of world politics – especially in and before wars – and after the WMD deception there can be no trust in the propagated news.


Salome,

Bill

*)
Divide and Conquer ?

Today’s alliance between China and Russia is very strong.
E.g. Russia cast its 7th (and China its 6th) veto against a punitive action against Syria in Feb. 2017 claiming that the evidence was the international investigation was still ongoing.

Re. the US missile strike Xinhua News – the official press agency of the P.R. of China –reports that most Congress members were not notified of the attack and that it “reignited a debate among lawmakers” on whether the president could order military strikes without the approval of Congress.

It quotes Sen. R. Paul, N. Pelosi and other MPs rejection of the airstrike (“You vote before you go to war not after you go to war” meaning that such air strikes are an “act of war” and should not be based on emotion but on authorization from Congress)

Details:
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2017-04/08/c_136192161.htm
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Norm
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Post Number: 103
Registered: 12-2016
Posted on Sunday, April 09, 2017 - 10:24 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Vladimir Putin ‘may be allowed to rejoin the G7 if he pulls out of Syria’
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/789977/Vladimir-Putin-pressure-over-Syria-chemical-attacks-rejoin-G7-Rex-Tillerson
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Stardustwilly
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Posted on Monday, April 10, 2017 - 03:27 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

So did Trump walk into a trap set by the deep state, when he walked into the Whitehouse?
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Tat_tvam_asi
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Registered: 04-2011
Posted on Monday, April 10, 2017 - 09:45 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

http://www.msn.com/en-au/news/world/china-moves-150000-troops-and-medical-supplies-to-north-korean-border-in-case-us-attacks-kim-jong-un-regime/ar-BBzFSGj?li=AAavLaF&ocid=spartanntp

See as well (above):
http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/14/14542.html#POST81414

and

http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/14/14542.html#POST81433
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Norm
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Post Number: 104
Registered: 12-2016
Posted on Tuesday, April 11, 2017 - 03:37 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Stardustwilly, If anything since they thought Hillary was going to win they've had to adjust their agenda around his. Eventually hoping to convince him their way helps his goals. Which were alway to get ISIS. Now they may have convinced him that they have to get rid of Assad too. And to do it while you have the manpower there. In the end they could be setting him up for total failure and then bang he's out of office. Or of course it spirals out of control and gets global. His policy has always been to never let the enemy know what you're thinking. That's why there are so many conflicting reports out there.
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Norm
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Post Number: 105
Registered: 12-2016
Posted on Tuesday, April 11, 2017 - 03:55 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Susan Rice is claiming all the chemical weapons in Syria are gone or have been removed yet the Mainstream Media is claiming they are there and we're used by a Assad. Which is it?
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Norm
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Post Number: 106
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Posted on Tuesday, April 11, 2017 - 12:00 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

China Might Bomb North Korea If It Crosses Beijing’s ‘Bottom Line’
http://dailycaller.com/2017/04/11/china-might-bomb-north-korea-if-it-crosses-beijings-bottom-line/#ixzz4dxwmHjkJ
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Msmichelle
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Post Number: 299
Registered: 02-2010
Posted on Tuesday, April 11, 2017 - 01:06 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Think about it if someone told you to give up all of your Guns or Weapons of course you will leave one or more hidden in another spot.... this is no different
MsMichelle
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Norm
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Post Number: 107
Registered: 12-2016
Posted on Tuesday, April 11, 2017 - 01:39 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

South Korea, China Agree on Action to End North Korea Nuclear Threat
http://www.voanews.com/a/trump-wants-option-to-end-north-korea-threat/3802976.html
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Hugo
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Registered: 04-2015
Posted on Tuesday, April 11, 2017 - 03:11 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Who blames North Korea for getting nuclear weapons because of all the provocations and war games always conducted around NK coast/borders by the US and others?
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Norm
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Post Number: 108
Registered: 12-2016
Posted on Tuesday, April 11, 2017 - 05:20 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Trump: ‘We’re Not Going into Syria, Our Policy Hasn’t Changed’
https://nypost.com/2017/04/11/trump-were-not-going-into-syria/
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Justsayno
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Posted on Wednesday, April 12, 2017 - 07:24 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Norm, the chemical weapons in Syria were more than likely used by the US backed "moderate rebels" because the same thing happened in 2013. But most people have a short memory and don't remember.
Good, better, best. May you never rest, until your good is better, and your better best.
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Norm
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Post Number: 109
Registered: 12-2016
Posted on Wednesday, April 12, 2017 - 09:34 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Mainstream Papers Misrepresenting What Putin Said on Syria False Flag to Make Him Look Crazy
http://russia-insider.com/en/mainstream-media-misrepresenting-what-putin-said-syria-false-flag-make-him-look-crazy/ri19574
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Corey
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Post Number: 137
Registered: 10-2016
Posted on Wednesday, April 12, 2017 - 09:53 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Russian intelligence indicates there will be more "false flag" rebel-created videos showing people being gassed, so they can lure in the West to strike Assad again. Russian Intelligence shows these videos are being created in several locations by the rebels, possibly in a Damascus suburb. Trump/West will likely fall for this, strike again, and Russia will this time strike back. This Syria situation (that is based in deception by the rebels [Al Nusra] that lures in my government) could escalate to a world encompassing war.

Putin made these announcements concerning their Intelligence during a live news conference yesterday.
Salome/Corey Müske
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Votan
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Registered: 12-2011
Posted on Wednesday, April 12, 2017 - 02:14 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hugo

You are so wrong.These war games are played because this little guy wants to show the world how big he is.

It is called the small person syndrome. Hitler had it. I think the world is getting tired of his childlike actions.
joe

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