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Joseph_emmanuel
Member
Post Number: 234
Registered: 05-2004
| | Posted on Monday, April 17, 2017 - 11:37 pm: | 
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FIGU Member: This is FIGU. Are you still on?
[no response]
FIGU Member: This is FIGU. Are you still on? Is anyone there?
FIGU Moderator: That's affirmative, Corey.
Silent FIGU Lurker: Yeah, we're here! Jesus H. Christ! We're still here! |
Corey
Member
Post Number: 146
Registered: 10-2016
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2017 - 09:20 am: |
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Hugo, Thanks for the ideas, but nope, Michael Horn is staying, so I'm staying, if I die I will be reborn, and I've been reading the books for years, so I am confident in my rebirth (new personality and new consciousness-block) and it may be a good one as a truth-seeker/studier due to the law of cause and effect.
MsMichelle, "head in the sand" is very appropriate, it will take serious calamity to wake up the American public.
Joseph_E: very funny! :-)
Salome/Corey Müske
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Kenneth
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Post Number: 620
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2017 - 09:42 am: |
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Hugo,
You can only order food from New Zealand every three months. . . . “You must ensure you can adequately maintain and accommodate yourself without recourse to public funds”. So, how do you pay for the food? Most all denominations of money in the world today is fiat money.
“There are no jobs”
“Jacqui Christian, who represents the island in Europe”. The Pitcairn Islands group is a British Overseas Territory.
You can’t just move there, have to apply for visa’s etc., and build your own house.
Has not Billy already said that there will be no place to run too if the 3rd/4th world war breaks out? Is not a great portion of the Pacific already contaminated from Fukishima, which still continues and will only get worse?
What about medical issues?
There appears to be a hidden agenda somewhere for someone to make money, which is not for those that move to the rocky island.
Kenneth |
Msmichelle
Member
Post Number: 301
Registered: 02-2010
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2017 - 10:03 am: |
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Hugo.... should I start sending these American refugees to you beautiful farm in Australia ?
MsMichelle
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Votan
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Post Number: 733
Registered: 12-2011
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2017 - 03:44 pm: |
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Hugo
Australia is still the safest place in the world.
Even if WWW-4 breaks out the location inland like Alice Springs because of tidal waves is still safe.
joe
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Hugo
Member
Post Number: 371
Registered: 04-2015
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2017 - 05:57 pm: |
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Corey, it's ok for MH to stay living in the US because he is an old man (sorry MH  ), are you?
How can the "new people" help to fix the world if they die? Look after yourself.
Kenneth, that is one place I found. There are other places too. Also, that island does not live off food from New Zealand. It can be self sufficient.
Also, if WW4 happens do you think goods shipped around the world will stop for very long time? Also, jobs, money, ect that you also mentioned there? Of course they all will. My point was to move somewhere where peoples chances are better to survive.
Msmichelle, please do not send American refugees to my farm, unless they are passive members of Figu.
When the civil wars and breakup of the US happens I bet illegal immigration from Mexico to the US will flip. |
Cpl
Member
Post Number: 896
Registered: 08-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2017 - 07:33 pm: |
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Alice Springs might make a good base for invading attackers who want to clean up Pine Gap after taking it out with an Excalibur update.
Probably the safest place would be your own self sufficient farm hidden away in the Aussie countryside. After WW IV you would then probably also have no idea what was going on in the world and would remain out of touch with almost everything.
Chris
Use to the full both the heart and head and never lose either.
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Joseph_emmanuel
Member
Post Number: 235
Registered: 05-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 19, 2017 - 04:23 am: |
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I think to willingly go down with the ship is very courageous, but also romantic (in a foolish sense), especially if you have the means to abandon ship. Some of us don't, so we have no choice but to go down with it; others do and are probably making preparations. But there's more to it than that, I think. I've been thinking a lot about the destruction of the West, especially Europe because I'm from that part of the world. For me it is such a part of my identity that to leave it would have a huge psychological impact. If I had the means to leave, I probably would (I'm not that courageous). But I am a romantic fool and I sometimes think it's better to die with the world you know than to go on living elsewhere in a different world with a different way of life. I'm not referring here merely to Western values and customs. I'm referring to what is essentially my home: to the people, the streets, the houses, the environment, the countryside, the landscape, every physical aspect that has influenced my thinking over the years. Just thinking about the loss of all this makes me very sad and I could understand why anyone would want to stay on account of that; not that I'm suggesting that is why Corey is staying. Perhaps he simply takes courage knowing that someone of Michael Horn's FIGU calibre is also staying, despite of his age. Hugo, I think that was hitting below the belt. I'm sure the New People aren't all going to be youngsters, like in some Logan's Run fantasy. And let's not forget that Michael has done more for FIGU than any of us here. So respect where it's due. |
Michael_horn
Member
Post Number: 1283
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2017 - 09:47 pm: |
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Hey Hugo, now just one minute, I resemble that remark! |
Hugo
Member
Post Number: 372
Registered: 04-2015
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2017 - 11:23 pm: |
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Votan, I agree with you about Australia being the safest place to be in WW4. Even if our few capital cities get nuked there are still so many country towns and places between the cities for people to flee too and be safe from the radiation fallout. Several nukes dropped in Australia is not going to make the country unable to be habitable from radiation. That can't be said for anywhere in the Northern Hemisphere because NH is where the vast majority of nukes will be falling and where worst radiation circulating.
Personally I think Tasmania will be the safest place to be in Oz because I doubt any nukes will get dropped there because there is no major industries or population there.
New Zealand should be as safe too but NZ sits on 2 faults lines and has many active volcanos. Expect mother Earth to fight back if WW4 happens.
The first sign of WW4 I'm heading to my country retreat! |
Corey
Member
Post Number: 148
Registered: 10-2016
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 19, 2017 - 05:42 pm: |
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Hugo, yes the "new spiritual teaching people" (neu Geisteslehre-Volk) will have their hands full in the future, but they are up to the task.
Salome/Corey Müske
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Kenneth
Member
Post Number: 622
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 19, 2017 - 03:06 pm: |
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Some of you folks sound like you’ve already given up on humanity; according to Billy, WW-3/4 can still be averted. There are more reasons than a world war to trigger a civil war in the U.S.A. In California for instance; Governor Jerry Brown has made the state a sanctuary state. Many are very upset about this.
http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/265669/sanctuary-state-california-lloyd-billingsley
According to a good friend that lives in California, sanctuary status has already happened. I personally saw firsthand where police department buildings have closed their doors because there is not enough manpower or money to support the facilities; San Jose and Santa Clara area to be specific.
https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=vacant+police+buildings+in+california&qpvt=vacan+police+buildings+in+california&qpvt=vacan+police+buildings+in+california&qpvt=vacan+police+buildings+in+california&FORM=IGRE |
Daniel_ratajczak
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Post Number: 9
Registered: 06-2016
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 19, 2017 - 09:27 am: |
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I think you all should get a better grip on Geography. After looking at maps extensively over the past few years and doing my own geological and historical research, I have compiled a list of several places that would be very suitable to run away to:
1. The Falkland Islands, South Atlantic Ocean
2. The Pitcairn Islands in the pacific ocean
3. Isle Royale in Lake Superior
4. Beaver Island in Lake Michigan
5. Botswana and Namibia
6. Nunavut, and Northern Greenland
7. Madagascar
8. Patagonia |
Norm
Member
Post Number: 115
Registered: 12-2016
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 19, 2017 - 10:02 am: |
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EMP Bomb Threat Scenario
https://youtu.be/vn6OVLK0MBI
HOW TO PREPARE FOR AN EMP
https://youtu.be/HEiiEVYUJXs |
Votan
Member
Post Number: 734
Registered: 12-2011
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 19, 2017 - 01:38 pm: |
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Joseph
It is only material. Why dont you want to see what is around the corner.
I am the opposite I do not like to be in one place too long,I get bored by the scenery and the same people.
See the world while it is still there.
joe
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Hugo
Member
Post Number: 373
Registered: 04-2015
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 19, 2017 - 02:54 pm: |
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Joseph_emmanuel, I have great respect for MH and my comment about him was not intending to put him down in any way. Moving abroad to start a new life somewhere else and leaving everything behind including many old friends and family is a very big move, and stressful too. If I were an old man living in the US now I'd probably not move to escape the dire fate coming to US soon. |
Norm
Member
Post Number: 117
Registered: 12-2016
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 19, 2017 - 02:55 pm: |
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Hugo, I would love to move there, but its a major move for me. |
Joseph_emmanuel
Member
Post Number: 236
Registered: 05-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 19, 2017 - 11:18 pm: |
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Votan, I agree with you about seeing the world, but then Europe is a fairly big part of it and I used to think it was the height of civilisation. In any case, the world seems like a dangerous place to me now.
Hugo, he isn't that old surely? Sorry for talking about you like this, Michael. It's very rude. |
Hugo
Member
Post Number: 374
Registered: 04-2015
| | Posted on Thursday, April 20, 2017 - 02:05 am: |
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Norm, I understand because of your mobility condition. Shame about that because after WW4 (if it happens) Australia would be a good place for the "new people" to survive and spread. Also, the P's said there could soon (10-20+ years?) be a Figu center in Australia and that it will be a success.
Daniel_ratajczak wrote -
"I think you all should get a better grip on Geography. After looking at maps extensively over the past few years and doing my own geological and historical research, I have compiled a list of several places that would be very suitable to run away to:
1. The Falkland Islands, South Atlantic Ocean
2. The Pitcairn Islands in the pacific ocean
3. Isle Royale in Lake Superior
4. Beaver Island in Lake Michigan
5. Botswana and Namibia
6. Nunavut, and Northern Greenland
7. Madagascar
8. Patagonia"
Number 3, 4 and 6 are not good places to escape to from WW4 because they are situated in the Northern Hemisphere. The Plejaren said if WW4 happens the whole NH will be unable to be habitable because of radiation fallout circulating. That's because the NH is where practically all the nukes will be falling and is where most of the two thirds of world's population deaths from WW4 will come from. Therefore places situated in the southern part of the Southern Hemisphere are best places to be.
And some of those other places you listed there are not safe now. Too much crime and poverty. Do you also speak them languages too? Have you considered the consequences, troubles and dangers of fleeing to a country where you do not know the native language? |
Daniel_ratajczak
Member
Post Number: 10
Registered: 06-2016
| | Posted on Thursday, April 20, 2017 - 07:00 am: |
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Hello Hugo,
Where did you read that the Plejaren have stated that Australia may very well have a mother-center within the next 10-20 years? I do believe that this is a possibility. Australia may be the sanctuary for the FIGU material for the coming decades.
First of all, Namibia and Botswana have several official languages, including English and Afrikaans, which is very easy to learn if you already speak German which I do. There is no doubt in my mind that Botswana and Australia will be the most peaceful safe havens during a potential WW4. According to an list of overpopulated countries on the Future of Mankind, Botswana is one of the few slightly underpopulated countries in the world . They're known as the Switzerland of Africa, and they also have a sizeable middle class as well as the highest standard of living in all of Africa.
We need to stop giving up on humanity, and we need to stop getting pulled in by WW4 paranoia. Although the elites would love to profit of off a potential WW4, I think they also know that it's a zero-sum game.
We need to tell Americans and citizens of other countries that they're not fighting for their country. They're not fighting for their families or for patriotism. They're fighting for the military industrial corporations like Lockheed Martin, Halliburton, Boeing, etc. This is slavery and unconstitutional.
Preventing a potential WW4 is not as complicated as it seems. All that we need is a positive flow of information from person to person. Then, when the dark orders wants to initiate their wet dream of a Syria no-fly zone or some other cataclysmic WW4 trigger, the majority of the people will speak out and say: We're staying at home, we're not your slaves anymore.
Refusing to submit to these oligarchic corporate military heads is as easy as telling your football coach:"I'm not going to practice today!" |
Michael_horn
Member
Post Number: 1284
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, April 20, 2017 - 08:45 am: |
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> Most islands are not a good long term bet because of ever-rising sea levels. One has to also consider not only if there is fresh water available but also arable land and the means to grow food, etc. |
Michael_horn
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Post Number: 1285
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, April 20, 2017 - 08:50 am: |
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> A few years ago I moved to Brazil. I loved it and would have stayed except I got a very strong feeling to move back to the US and specifically to AZ. Not a big deal. |
Hugo
Member
Post Number: 375
Registered: 04-2015
| | Posted on Thursday, April 20, 2017 - 01:56 pm: |
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Daniel_ratajczak, if Namibia and Botswana have a good standard of living (for Africa) and are considered safe havens there, they will not be like that for long if/after WW4 happens because they will probably be inundated with people/refugees from surrounding Africans nations which are much less safer. That is another reason why Australia and New Zealand are safer because they are islands. But Australia should be safer then NZ because it is the most stable land mass on earth with no volcanos or fault lines.
MH, Brazil is not a safe place to live. You must have briefly lived in a safer part of the countryside and you were also being watched over by the P's monitor disks. 
How safe is it to live in Brazil?
Mark Horn, Permanent Brazil resident
Written Apr 23, 2016
Unfortunately, not very.
A recent article published in Forbes calls Brazil the murder capital of the world, being home to 22 of the world's 50 most violent cities. The list of Brazil's violent cities is not restricted to the poorer North and Northeastern regions, but includes Goiania and Cuiaba in the Center-West, Vitoria in the Southeast, and model-city Curitiba and Porto Alegre in the South.
Homicide is not the only problem. In its advice to travelers, the Australian government warns that the incidence of violent crime, including muggings, armed robbery, home invasions, and sexual assault, is significant and that violence and crime, often involving firearms or other weapons, can occur anywhere and at any time in Brazil. Petty crime such as pick-pocketing and bag snatching occurs with frequency, including by thieves on motorcycles. Robbery and assault is not uncommon on Brazilian beaches.
https://www.quora.com/How-safe-is-it-to-live-in-Brazil |
