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Joseph_emmanuel
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Post Number: 237
Registered: 05-2004
| | Posted on Monday, April 24, 2017 - 07:40 am: | 
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Hugo, very interesting. The evil that men do. Leaves me to think there is no hope for us.
It is a true fact that the only way the evil business of politics and religion is going to end is through the evolution of each and every individual because power like this will not surrender itself. It will go on until people start conducting their lives more wisely and responsibly.
I suspect there will be great and magnificent men and women in the future who will take on this power at the cost of their own lives and understand that to be necessary. Hail the heroes of tomorrow! |
Eddieamartin
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Post Number: 751
Registered: 08-2010
| | Posted on Monday, April 24, 2017 - 10:52 am: |
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Joseph_emmanuel
Only a fool would die for the truth.
Salome,
Eddie
In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says:
Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3)
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Linda
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Post Number: 10
Registered: 06-2014
| | Posted on Monday, April 24, 2017 - 01:25 pm: |
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Really hope that the right person gets elected IE not of the dark order.
That being said, when we had our election here in the states they tried to push Hillary as the most popular person that everybody wanted her elected when it was clearly not true. |
Sillyme
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Post Number: 8
Registered: 04-2017
| | Posted on Monday, April 24, 2017 - 07:46 am: |
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Howdy Corey, yes, by the time of my second NDE, I was aware of what Herr Meier had said on the topic. Qualitatively, my second NDE (which was deliberately induced) was different from the first one, less clear, less engrossing, but it was still an NDE. The interesting thing for me was the importance of thoughts and imagination in that state of being. Prior to that experience, it had never occurred to me that the sense of imagination can be used as a mental sense organ, in the same manner that the senses of hearing and sight can be used to discern the physical world. By 'allowing', I used my sense of imagination to discern distinctions in the vibes of my surroundings, set in the context of my own vision of Heaven. NDE's are nothing if not impactful. They get to the very core of identities. If being in that state is meaningless, then so is any identity or sense of self at all. Personally, I don't subscribe to nihilistic ideologies, quite the opposite. To me learning and growing in awareness and wisdom through identities and cultures and flavors and settings is what we live for.
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Marine le Pen is now in a runoff with some far-Left commie 'Centrist'. The (((media))) is coordinating it's usual bag of dirty tricks. Wish le Pen well if you prefer France for the French. |
Joseph_emmanuel
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Post Number: 238
Registered: 05-2004
| | Posted on Monday, April 24, 2017 - 11:09 pm: |
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Eddieamartin, I think once you try to expose a powerful organisation that will do anything to protect itself, your life is threatened. You're a fool if you don't accept the possibility you may be killed. It is not a question of dying for the truth, it is a question of doing what's right, like the Dutch whistleblower in Hugo's post. Is he a fool for putting his life at risk? Is his life not at risk for attempting to expose a dark and dangerous power? I think people need to be brave, otherwise only cowards will embrace the truth. I think a lot can be said for someone who dies for what he believes in, although I don't mean this in the sense of making oneself a martyr. But to stand against crime, to fight it. That takes a lot of courage, and in doing so you put your life at risk. |
Tat_tvam_asi
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Post Number: 592
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Monday, April 24, 2017 - 11:11 pm: |
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Dear Moderators - Please discard the previous and
publish this version instead, Thank you
“Hypocrisy Is The Tribute Imperialism Pays To Democracy” -)
“And thus I clothe my naked villainy
With odd old ends stol’n out of holy writ,
And seem a saint, when most I play the devil”
(W. Shakespeare / Richard III)
Deception and double standards have ruled over our planet – from antiquity till today.
Deception is the basis of all warfare.
Thus Earth has been a planet of constant warfare.
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There is a growing “suppression cum perversion” of truth in our world.
It forces people to deny the truth they feel in their heart and – by doing so – forces them to deny their potential, their dignity and honour.
If people have to “applaud” deceptions because they fear to be punished when they speak the truth, they end up becoming “masses that do their chores like robots”.
We attribute these methods to totalitarian regimes.
But is the western world free of them?
My previous article *) wanted to lay bare some of the reasoning that explains “why” "what" occurred (and still occurs) politically / economically in our world, and that, “armed” with this knowledge, non politicians may “see through the news” that they are allowed to hear or read.
I say “allowed to hear” because to this day small power elites (PE) control the media**) and “politics behind the happenings” in our world.
But if common people understand the way these elites think, then it is the “elites” who are “watched” and “under pressure” and the global consciousness will develop into a unity the power elites “fear” (because it will take away their privileged status).
This is so, because uniform thoughts of many are, indeed, more powerful than any weapon in shaping the realities we live in. ^)
It is exactly this point, that Noam Chomsky stresses and which Prof. Dr. R. Mausfeld (RM) (University of Kiel / Germany – Faculty: Psychology of Perception) addresses in his latest lecture (see Figu ZZ 65) “The Power Elites’ Fear Of The (Common) People”.
Not many may be able to read his German version ***).
I will try to summarize some of the main points he makes below.
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==The “Shepherd and Sheep” Metaphor==
Homer created the metaphor of a shepherd looking after his sheep using dogs to keep the order with a ruler governing his people with law enforcing agents.
Plato questions whether such a “shepherd” would truly think first of the welfare of the sheep or his own.
RM brings this metaphor in line with our time by adding to the equation the “owner of the sheep” directing the shepherd which I would interpret to mean
Owner of the sheep = Power Elites(PE) Shepherd = Government of RD Sheep = People
Guard Dogs = Secret Services/Armed Forces
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But how is it possible that the PE control the people of modern democracies?
Is this not a contradiction – after all, democracies stand for a” rule by the people and for the people” – don’t they?
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==The Objective of “Representative Democracies”==
The truth is that the democracies in our world today are only “elective democracies”. These “democracies” do not give the people the power to make their laws and control their execution directly but delegate it to elected representatives – which in turn are selected by various “parties” which also control the elected representatives.
These “party-democracies” are very different to ancient Greece where for ca. 100 years the people were directly involved in deciding what laws should be implemented.
Today’s “democracies”, though, are “copies of the first democracy of modern times”, the US democracy:
And the founding fathers of this “democracy” had, as Prof Mansfield explains, a profound aversion of the common people ^^). Yes, they wanted free elections for all men but what they really wanted was not a (direct) democracy but a republic (in which the execution of political power was given to a rather small no. of people).
IOW they wanted to limit the common people’s influence on the law making process so that the interests of the elites, esp. the property owners, were not compromised.
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The constitution that they finally agreed on, made the USA a representative democracy (RD).
It fulfilled both - the need of a “rule by the people” and a mechanism which E.M.Woods called “a means to keep the people away from politics and to support an oligarchy of property owners (privileged class) via elections”.
Thus the idea of a “representative democracy” was, from the moment of its first conception (in the US), a means to repel a true (direct) democracy which would have been an expression of the will of the people not the PE.
As history would tell – the US “Elite-Democracy” became the model for all the other elective democracies (125 out of 195 countries) on our planet, democracies in which the function of elections is altered from a democratic expression of the people’s will to a tool that will establish changes that are beneficial to the PE’s status.
In fairness we should add that other major (non-capitalist) powers are ruled by similar PEs
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But how can the PE induce the masses to do their will?
Because such would–ultimately- be to accept a separation in two classes ^).
One that is small in nos., intelligent and born to rule (i.e. the PE) and the other that is larg in nos., irrational / emotional and born to serve the PE (i.e. the masses).
It is obvious that PE cannot tell such to the masses as they would reject this inequality.
They could use force “Hard Power” – e.g. the “Pax Romana” (Roman Peace) was not really based on peace (pax), indicating a benevolent rule, but on an order based on force.
But in modern timnes Hard Power has only been used if persuasion (“Soft Power”) failed.
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== “Soft Power” Techniques ==
“The aim of totalitarian education has never been to instil convictions but to destroy the capacity to form any.” (H. Arend)
That is why the PEs try to divert the citizens attention from becoming aware of their real intention (which is to maintain their superiority).
The PE are as well aware that the thoughts of many – if united - “will manifest in realities”.
To prevent this they try to divert the public’s (and Parliamentarians’) attention.
Soft power (applying a little nudge if necessary) needs a plausible cover story or pre-text.
One of the best ways to divert the “masses’ will to change reality” is to make the masses hate or fear a non-elite person (e.g. SH) or object (e.g. WMD).
Other methods are to stimulate consumerism, medial inundation with nebulous/scandalous news etc or cultural racism (Third Reich)
Some seem to think that their privileged status is acceptable to those less fortunate *****)
The work of NGOs/Foundations which try to “conform participation seeking citizens” to the will of the PE.
(RM details many more points, I just mentioned some of them)
== Prof. R. Mausfeld concludes ==
1. Every human, from birth on, should be free and have equal rights, i.e.
Human Rights do not need to be first created by constitutions or PE.
2. They rest on the equality of all people – irrespective of their race, religion, possessions, knowledge.
3. Humanity should be governed by “universal humanism”, i.e. the respect of equality between all humans.
This is what the Declaration of 1789 by the French National Assembly proclaimed and a true democracy should be based on these “nature given” rights.
The time of enlightenment and reason should be a time which frees man from his prejudices and dependencies, educating him into maturity, making him knowledgeable and self-responsible.
4. Ours should be a time to replace the “elite (controlled) democracies”:
More than 50 years of “Eite-Democracies” prove that they lead to the destruction of life
They work on separation and thus destroy human unity and peace.
Those benefitting from the inequality will not make any moves to change the situation.
The energy to change the status quo has to come from the (thinking of the) common people.
From us.
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NB
Many of RM’s arguments relate to the US, a country that spends more on its military than the 7 countries following it:
http://www.pgpf.org/chart-archive/0053_defense-comparison
But there are PEs in many other countries as well.
Even in totalitarian communist countries where a great majority of people are very poor.
But RM’s insights and conclusions are correct:
A world in which the 8 richest people own as much as half the planet’s population (some 4 billion people), where oligarchs enjoy a life of luxury on super yachts while their fellow countrymen have hardly enough to eat, such a world cannot last.
The laws of nature are based on a balance and if man works against these laws than nature will establish a balance by force
This insight should guide the PEs to improve the lives of their fellow humans.
The masses should be encouraged to seek knowledge and truth.
Not the hypocrisy that supports the PE’s superiority and separation.
But the equality, balance and oneness that underlie all laws of our universe.
Salome
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Charles S. Maier (“Among Empires”) History Prof. / Harvard University
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http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/14/8838.html#POST81474
We mentioned that the modus Vivendi of (Greece, Rome and later) empires is very similar
E.g. their need for slaves grew once they needed a work force to defend and work the “large new lands” (plantations, mineral mines etc.)
RM quotes Karl Rove, adviser to GW Bush (NYT Oct. 4, 2004)
“We are an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality….We are history’s actors…. And you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do.”
http://www.goodreads.com/quotes/846190-we-re-an-empire-now-and-when-we-act-we-create
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Plato: Reality is but a shadow to human ideas.
^^)
Aristotle and Plato taught that the most intelligent people should rule the country.
This seems to be similar to the King of Wisdom of the Plejaren:
A. and P. may have based their thoughts on the Atlantis knowledge stored in the Lib.of Alexandria:
http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/14/14199.html#POST76862
Their conclusion:
An aristocracy would be best to lead a city state.
Political rights should be assigned to those who (are not slaves and) have both – virtue and property.
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http://www.uni-kiel.de/psychologie/mausfeld/pubs/Folien_Angst%20der%20Eliten_HH_IPPNW.pdf
Figu ZZ Summary:
https://creationaltruth.org/Library/FIGUPeriodicals/FIGUSignoftheTimes/FIGU-SignoftheTimesNo65.aspx
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The founding fathers of the US were rather large landowners (George W.: the schedule of his (28 pages) handwritten will lists properties and 123 slaves valued in today’s money: ca. US$ 550 Mio / John Adams US$ 29 Mio / T. Jefferson US$ 234 Mio / J. Madison US$ 112 Mio etc. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Presidents_of_the_United_States_by_net_worth
Naturally, the independence that the wealthy enjoyed gave their offspring much more opportunity to study and thus a better preparation to govern then the poor who had their children working from a young age on to support the family’s livelihood.
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JC Juncker, when asked about the Greek crisis: “When it becomes serious, you have to lie.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean-Claude_Juncker
Stephen Kinzer (….America’s Century of Regime Change from Hawaii to Iraq…)
Factors that led the US to embrace regime change
… 3. A belief that God wants the US to combat evil forces in the world
https://demclubathr.files.wordpress.com/2013/11/overthrow.pdf
George F. Kennan (PPS/23 memo):
“We own ca. 50 % of world’s wealth but only 6.3 % of world’s population .. we cannot fail to be the target of envy and resentment …our real task in the coming period is to devise a pattern of relationships which will allow us to maintain this position of disparity …
https://learning.hccs.edu/faculty/juan.galvanrodriguez/extra-credit/Readings/george-kennan-excerpts-from-pps23-1948
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Such exceptional-ism becomes problematic when the “exceptional country” is held to be above international laws/regulations or deemed to be bound by them only if they are beneficial for it.
RM quotes N. Chomsky’s harsh assessment of US foreign policy -
http://www.great-quotes.com/quote/1361409
(R.H. Jackson mentioned that the same principles that were used in the Nürnberg/Germany post WW2 trials should as well be used for other countries including the USA) |
Bronzedesk
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Post Number: 193
Registered: 01-2011
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 25, 2017 - 06:52 am: |
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Dearest Linda
Just wanted to say Hi and that we have been waiting for you to arrive and that you are finally here. You have the best of friends in Msmichelle as well as all of us here. Take your time to peruse around and if you have questions we have the best people of all for that.
Again I send my love and best wishes with you being here with us.
bronzedesk(Mat)
And the end of all our exploring, will be to arrive where we started, and know the place for the first time.
~ T. S. Eliot
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Eddieamartin
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Post Number: 752
Registered: 08-2010
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 25, 2017 - 11:24 am: |
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Joseph_emmanuel
Being courageous is a virtue. Getting killed for attempting to do the right thing is a result of illogical thinking, wrong decisions and poor planning.
To be courageous in a dangerous situation requires the application of wisdom, planning and visualization.
The wrong actions and decisions that were poorly contemplated and executed leads to your death.
I can be very courageous, bring about change for the positive while doing it in a smart and conscientious way.
Only a fool dies for the truth. The wise continue to effectuate the positive changes staying alive.
Salome,
Eddie
In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says:
Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3)
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Hugo
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Post Number: 385
Registered: 04-2015
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 25, 2017 - 03:13 pm: |
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For any interested in seeing what the body language revealed of the Dutch whistle blowers claims on the previous page. This video was just uploaded yesterday by a website that only does body language.
Body Language: Dutch Whistleblower
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RyJWrzdNFc |
Sillyme
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Post Number: 9
Registered: 04-2017
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 25, 2017 - 09:59 pm: |
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"Only a fool dies for the truth. The wise continue to effectuate the positive changes staying alive."
- Eddiemartin
One does not live for oneself alone. Dying for any ideological cause is foolish when only oneself is considered, but when others are considered as well, then making a fatal stand for the truth can, in some circumstances, be consider a noble sacrifice.
Ultimately, truth is self-evident once enough of the facts are commonly known. When that stage is reached, then only those in adamant denial persist in untruth. Such individuals will fight, but what are they fighting for? Not the truth, but for some other cause. Truth be told, sacrificing oneself on their altar offensive ignorance in order to help such people realize the truth may not effect a change in their thinking. Each situation is unique. |
Msmichelle
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Post Number: 309
Registered: 02-2010
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 26, 2017 - 12:45 pm: |
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IMO.... everything starts with Oneself... the Individual. No one should sacrifice themselves to any ideology... or to seek Nobelness
MsMichelle
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Msmichelle
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Post Number: 311
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| | Posted on Wednesday, April 26, 2017 - 01:10 pm: |
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I know some of you are apologizing for the recent behaviors of President Trump... however,IMO, this is only another Learning lesson for all of us who are attempting to be Logical in the Irrational and Illogical world of politics.... the current political process requires dismantling otherwise we will continue to be disappointed and unrealistic
MsMichelle
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Kenneth
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Post Number: 627
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 26, 2017 - 03:05 pm: |
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Just happened to see this on local a TV news channel. It’s interesting how many so called college professors have come out of the woodwork and onto the national new networks to speak against “Fake News” and are blaming the fake news on the Russians! This according to some educational scholars has been going on for a hundred years; this all appears to be moronic nonsense. Could not find this particular news feed on line.
Kenneth |
Kenneth
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Post Number: 628
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| | Posted on Wednesday, April 26, 2017 - 03:39 pm: |
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Tat_tvam_asi,
Outstanding information on your blog! Appreciate the amount of work that went into this. I’m familiar with the conversation on this subject regarding Plato and Aristotle in reference to your information. It appears that most governments operate with similar methods; this experimentation continues to evolve and develop.
“Aristotle and Plato taught that the most intelligent people should rule the country.” I agree that this appears to be very similar to the Plejaren and the King of Wisdom and that Aristotle and Plato might have based their opinions on the Atlantis information collected in the Library of Alexandria:
Kenneth |
Tat_tvam_asi
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Post Number: 593
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| | Posted on Wednesday, April 26, 2017 - 07:41 pm: |
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Thank you, Kenneth.
One additional thought ...
Today many admire the wisdom of ancient Greeks.
But in ancient Greece these famous men would hardly have dared to mention the source of their knowledge and wisdom:
Many Athenians claimed that Plato, in circulating Solon’s story of Atlantis, wanted to promote similar ideals for Greece as the ones attributed to the fabled Atlantis.
But this thought, that Greece, if ruled like a “fabled foreign country” would become a much better society, enraged proud Greek nationalists who called it blasphemous and treacherous.
(The nationalist sentiments were more intense at the time – instead of self reflection the political leaders looked for a scapegoat to explain the loss to Sparta in 404 BCE)
We know that Socrates, who valiantly questioned Greek traditions, was condemned to death (399 BCE) by drinking the hemlock. It greatly shocked his his prime student, Plato, who fled Athens to Syracuse to promote his ideas of a philosopher king there.
So some early Greeks (like e.g. Pythagoras and Thales) who lived before Socrates/Plato, may have mentioned “their education in Egypt”, but Plato, and most of the famous Greeks, would not have dared to mention a foreign country.
Thus our history books will call the “Renaissance” the rebirth of classical Greece and - as the Romans transported shiploads full of Greek artefacts / literature and Greek slaves who taught the Romans - Rome.
But the Renaissance truly is the rebirth of Atlantis’ thought and wisdom. |
Corey
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Post Number: 158
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| | Posted on Wednesday, April 26, 2017 - 08:11 pm: |
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Bill (Tat_tvam_asi)/your posts 592 and 593 were most excellent. When future terrestrial time-travelers can visit Atlantis with the push of a button, as well as, visiting Greece's Atlantean connections, I, with my future personality would like to set forth a mission to see these things in the past-time. Of course I won't remember this request, but future historians can remind me it was an interest of mine in the past-year of 2017. We'll take you along on the mission too Bill = your future-self! :-)
Kenneth, you can pilot.
Salome/Corey Müske
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Kenneth
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Post Number: 630
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| | Posted on Wednesday, April 26, 2017 - 10:56 pm: |
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Tat_tvam_asi,
You said; "The Renaissance truly is the rebirth of Atlantis’ thought and wisdom."
Never looked at the ancient Atlantis government from this point of view, very interesting!
Kenneth |
Tat_tvam_asi
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Post Number: 596
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| | Posted on Thursday, April 27, 2017 - 01:51 am: |
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Excellent idea, thank you, Corey!
We take, of course, Michael and all interested Figu members with us. |
Andrew_grimshaw
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Post Number: 28
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| | Posted on Thursday, April 27, 2017 - 09:17 am: |
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Bill & Ted's; oops I mean; Corey's EXCELLENT ADVENTURE! ;)
- The Silent Revolution of Truth -
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Sillyme
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Post Number: 12
Registered: 04-2017
| | Posted on Friday, April 28, 2017 - 06:11 am: |
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Aristotle and Plato taught that the most intelligent people should rule the country.
This seems to be similar to the King of Wisdom of the Plejaren:
A. and P. may have based their thoughts on the Atlantis knowledge stored in the Lib.of Alexandria:
http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/14/14199.html#POST76862
Their conclusion:
An aristocracy would be best to lead a city state.
Political rights should be assigned to those who (are not slaves and) have both – virtue and property. "
-Tat_tvam_asi
We cannot arbitrarily superimpose a social model upon other societies without taking into consideration the populations to be governed. What we need is an acquiescent Ladder of Civilization. Such is the promise of true representative democracy.
There is a direct correspondence between the spirit's development, it's intellectual capacities, and it's 'vibe' (to use a nebulous term). In terms of populations, when collective vibe is at a certain level, then correlative social solutions are generally exhibited. Because of this, some societies are more developed than others, more capable of constructively overcoming problems rather than falling into chaos.
The Asian Nations, Korea and Japan in particular, and the Nordic Nations before the influx of immigration, are two completely different groups of societies that have been known to support high-IQ populations. These two groups have developed fairly advanced societies (for Earth) which are not only both peaceful and resilient, but also 'high-trust', in the case of the Norse, even to the point of self-destructive gullibility. To exemplify the ability of high-trust, resilient societies to deal with an overwhelming crisis, contrast the Japanese response to it's massive storms, earthquakes and tsunami's with that of a lower average IQ society, such as Haiti or Nicaragua. Among the former, the people help each survive and rebuild after the crisis. Japanese are famous for this. Among the latter, a single strong storm can drive the society back to anarchy from which it takes a decade or longer to recover. This is an expression of collective 'vibe'.
This flies in the face of the idealized concept of equality for all mankind. Spirits may be equal in value, but we are not all collectively equal in experience or capacity to support a modern society.
We cannot take the world's Asian or Nordic genius's and plop them down in the failed State of Somalia (for example), expecting a social miracle to occur. Why not, asks the liberal? ... Why not? For one, it's disrespectful of the Somali's to not allow them to build the kind of social structure that they are comfortable in. The average group of Somali's would be uncomfortable living in Japan or Sweden, where the social norms and cues require a higher amount of intelligence to grasp. But there's another side of it, too: neither would it be fair to the foreign geniuses to have to live amongst the Somali's, to have to learn to deal with the blunter social norms of Somali society where violence and rape (for instance) are commonplace, and corruption is the daily way of life. There are limits to the amount of collective vibrational/IQ disparity that a single society can support before it splits.
This is what is being brought to Western Civilization, driving wedges into our cracks, building to a crescendo of broad internecine conflicts fought along racial and ideological lines.
Interestingly enough, the degree of disparity a society can support before it splits has been studied, documented. These are known academic concepts, not just pulled from outa my backside, but known and studied. The people who are involved in importing lower IQ populations into higher ones (the 'elite', if you like) are already aware of these studies. Stefan Molyneux talks at length about intelligence, in particular about which societal characteristics correlate with average IQ, in his IQ series: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLMNj_r5bccUyYzJ5G1GgvfM59JEpDkteX
Most interesting to me is how people at one end of the spectrum relate people at another, what I've previously termed 'vibrational algebra'. It turns out that folks have studied this, too, and found that IQ disparities over 20-25 points make for uncomfortable relations. (An interesting article describing just this dance is found in the Prometheus Society's introductory material: http://prometheussociety.org/wp/articles/the-outsiders.) Thus, the leaders of a society cannot be smarter than the average population by more than around 20-25 points to be effective. If the average IQ of a Nation is 70, then it's leadership shouldn't exceed approximately 90-95. (Actually, I suspect that lower IQ societies are less amenable to IQ disparities than the higher IQ societies upon which these numbers were based, thus, the 90-95 number in that example should probably be abit lower.)
What to do? We want to more closely approach utopia the world-over. Universal compassion applied equally for all mankind is the a-priori du jour. We cannot simply plop abunch of geniuses into Somalia and fix their problems, nor can we import Somali's into our societies and expect them to adopt our civilized ways. It's just not fair, right? Were we all approximately alike in vibe, such a state of affairs would not be fair... but for Earth, disparity of vibe is natural, it is what is. And all spirits deserve the space to develop in the comfort of their own societies. In order to address this, Earth's disparity challenge, we need to build a 'Ladder of Civilization', a stepped approach to modernity.
(There is more to my rant, but I've run out of time. Will have to continue this later. : ) ) |
Votan
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Post Number: 746
Registered: 12-2011
| | Posted on Saturday, April 29, 2017 - 05:04 am: |
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Bill
Nobody should rule. If you listen to what the Plajerans told us that in their society they have a few wise men and all major decisions are made by the people.
Unfortunately at the present moment on earth whilst we have religion and the monetary system going it cannot work.
Perhaps in 200 or 500 years.
joe
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Norm
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Post Number: 125
Registered: 12-2016
| | Posted on Saturday, April 29, 2017 - 07:34 am: |
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These Anti-Facist groups are being paid to cause trouble everywhere. Billionaire George Soros is supposedly funding them.
Ezra Levant vs. Antifa activist in Australia!
https://youtu.be/EoDl4oPpLy0 |
Tat_tvam_asi
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Post Number: 597
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Sunday, April 30, 2017 - 05:53 am: |
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Hi Votan,
Many of my writings *) highlight that the sentiment of superiority that we find in religion and politics leads to double standards – one standard for those that “think” they are superior and born to govern and another standard for those that are not allowed to think so, but have to serve.
It is the very nature of this “class-thinking” that there is no equality and that the less privileged will sooner or later rebel.
Prof. Dr. R. Mausfeld ^*) has a very similar view.
His latest lecture – in a nutshell – says that the "democracies" in our world today are a façade, that they truly are “oligarchies appearing as democracies”.
As they lead to separation and destruction they should be abolished and replaced.
He explains that the “Droits de l’Homme et du Citoyen” (“Declaration of the Rights of Man and Citizens”) **) of the French Assembly in 1789 are a much truer expression of the natural equality that exists between all humans. ***)
But he does not specify how to establish a government based on the 17 articles proclaimed by the French National Assembly in 1789. ****)
We could certainly sit down and work out a modus Vivendi of how such a change could be established.
E.g. in our world of internet connectivity we could establish ways of direct or participatory democracy.
But there is a much further reform needed.
Our human thinking is – based on the superiority based doctrines of world religions – not yet ready to truly embrace the equality of universal existence.
And it is this aspect that would negate any “enlightened” thought of human dignity as a sacrilege against the deities which these religions adhere to...
In our world today - who would educate a different view of human life?
A life not being controlled by celestial authority (-ies) but by a oneness and the laws that underlie this oneness?
Even our present pope – and, I dare say - he is an unselfish, truly spoken, loving man, but how could he change this?
And yet if there is no change then – as Prof R Mausfeld mentions – we are on a path of destroying our planet.
The more all humans realize (and are educated as such) that their thoughts and actions have a universal dimension, that they are universal beings with a universal responsibility, and that there is a universal oneness, “equalised-ness” and value in each life moment, the more they desire and seek this experience, the less they will be attached to a sense of “I” and “I own” and “I must protect what is mine”.
Because this greed for and protection of the “I” - elite status is what causes the worldwide arms races, the nuclear pile-ups, the defence budget blow-outs, the separation, misery and death of living beings on or planet.
It is, as we mentioned many times, an illusion based on an illusionary superiority – that holds us back from living in peaceful, universal oneness
Salome,
Bill
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http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/14/13342.html#POST71677
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It may be worth the while to read his previous lecture "Why are the Lambs Silent?"
https://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2016/02/29/18783480.php
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The main parts were drafted by Lafayette and T. Jefferson
But these “Rights” were based on the philosophy of Enlightenment, on “natural secular laws” – not on any religious doctrine or authority.
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Re. Aristotle and Plato
They advocated as a condition for political rights both – virtue and land holdings – i.e. a rule by aristocrats.
They may have thought, the more wealthy, being free of the everyday chores, could devote more time to learn good governance and thus guarantee a better political decision making.
I mentioned their thinking - not to advocate it or criticize it – but to imply that elites were considered to rule – not only today and not only rule the US.
IOW, it was not my intent to single out one era, one country or one religion but to mention a global issue that has been – for thousands of years - a source of warfare on our planet.
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We should mention that for a short period it seemed the French National Assembly was willing to establish an English style monarchy:
The French king, after fleeing and being caught in Varennes, was offered the throne again if he was willing to accept the 17 articles.
But this enraged many Parisians, they demonstrated, some 20 were killed and the idea was quickly abandoned.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Champ_de_Mars_Massacre
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We are on a path to a “we” personality.
With our present mind we may think this loss of “individual self” as a saddening experience.
But this is only so because we have – from young age on – become “addicted” to an illusion:
We are born with a mind of peaceful universal balance… until the needs of life create desires and brain activity in response to changing environments. The impressions form our self-image which becomes more and more the guide in our life. ^)
It makes one wonder what view of life the offspring of the Plejaren or the half spiritual beings of the (e.g. Andromeda HC) are taught.
^) See as well
http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/14/13389.html#POST71950
http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/13/13188.html#POST70282
http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/13/13190.html#POST70285 |
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