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Hugo
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Posted on Sunday, April 02, 2017 - 08:54 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Norm3, I don't know? Never heard about such things like that happening here. Maybe it's a local council thing? It certainly shouldn't happen though.
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Andrew_grimshaw
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Posted on Monday, April 03, 2017 - 02:22 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Norm3 & Hugo,

Do we dare predict what will happen at this "playgroup", this Thursday?
What will happen if a few of the local One Nation members take their kids to this "playgroup"?
- The Silent Revolution of Truth -
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Norm
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Posted on Friday, April 07, 2017 - 12:28 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Palestinians consider high birth rates a form of resistance against the Israeli occupation, and reject birth control. Former Palestinian President Yasser Arafat compounded that belief, saying "the womb of the Arab woman is my best weapon".

https://www.alaraby.co.uk/english/blog/2017/4/6/is-over-population-in-gaza-an-act-of-resistance
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Corey
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Posted on Saturday, April 08, 2017 - 09:55 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Especially after reading, and reflecting on Sfath's 1948 prophecies and predictions, it makes me seriously reflect on Earth's near future times, and all of the calamatious destruction that will be caused by our uncontrolled overpopulation problems, and learning from our true master = the causal law of cause and effect.

These destructions may claim many an Earth human life, and there may be quite a few upset people in the future, who may rap their heads in anger that overpopulation was not addressed by earlier generations, and they may exclaim (as a result of lessons learned from death/destruction) "How could we have been so foolish with our procreation?". People may actually slow down, and wonder: "How could we try and create so many offspring, and how will we feed all of these newly created people with a changing atmosphere (global warming) and constant environmental destructions?"

I can only imagine that in changing, calamatious times, the overall mentality of the Earth human being may change (because of blood spilled) quite rapidly, and I am here with this post to offer wise council to our future descendants that was transmitted to Billy Meier in 1975 (roughly a full year before my birth/and I'm 40), and the verses the pure-spirit-level transmitted appear to be timeless:

I wish to point out these two verses, two very different sides of the same coin (the population coin) = two opposing poles because one verse transmits what is within the natural limits of the natural laws, and the other verse transmits what is out of context of the natural limits of the natural laws, and transgresses them, so there are repercussions (cause/effect depopulations that you painfully have to "live out" in accordance). Verse 8 is the optimum and desirable verse (what we want to "live out" as a planet), but in dangerous reality, verse 9 is the present day situation we currently have here on Earth, and is the complete explanation for what lies just ahead in Earth's future time(s).

I stopped at one child many years ago (she has matured to age 18), and I am an anomaly in my time. If I had found out about overpopulation before my child was born, I would have chosen not to procreate in this time of emergency. I can only assume that perhaps future ones who may read this, will do so at a future that is perhaps a time of a great emergency, and the circumstances must be dire. Upon reading the 1948 Sfath P & P's, reading in what you all will live through, all I can offer you for comfort is that you are living at a time that will offer great lessons to our planet's people, and some of these lessons will be severe, and these will metamorphicize into what will become an Earth chronicle, and future generations further along then you, may look back at this time as a great turning point, a time that turns into a time when the Earth's people consciously monitor, supervise, and control their descendants, and your time of learning may be viewed as the turning point when history offered lessons to teach this truth to Earth humanity.

This may bring you little comfort, as I am sure the costs have been very painful, and for this I am at a loss for words. I felt compelled to directly address people in the future, after reading what lies ahead in the form of prophecies, and predictions (Sfath 1948) for my planet.

Arahat Athersata (Sanskrit) = "Der Wertvolle, der die Zeit beschaut"/"the precious one who views the time(s)" translation below (in quotes):

8)"Die Arterhaltung liegt in der Befolgung der natürlichen Gesetze, so sie ein Befolgen in Heiligkiet ist, übersehend und kontrollierend also."

8) "The preservation of the species is based in the following the natural laws, as such the compliance is then controlled (*), monitored (supervising/regarding), and controlling."

9) "Die Formel der einfachen Vermehrung aber ist unheilig, unübersehbar und unkontrollierend also, denn sie erzeugt Vermehrung in sinnlosem Masse und wider alle Naturegesetze."

9) "But the formula of simple propagation (augmentation) is uncontrolled, therefore without monitoring (without supervising/without regarding) and uncontrolling, because it creates propagation (augmentation) in senseless masses and is contrary to all natural laws."(**)

* = from “geheiligt” FIGU Dictionary entry = “im Sinne von kontrolliert/in the sense of controlling”. “Controlling” in this case means “carefully exercising restraint” & thereby “wisely limiting numbers of descendants to be within natural limits” which means abiding within the specs of the natural (cosmic) laws.

** = this simple propagation (augmentation) is referring to the act of procreation just to procreate, without knowing the natural limits for a planet, as well as, disregarding the law of species preservation (long term survival is best kept within natural limits of bearing 12 human lifeforms per square Kilometer).
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"Arahat Athersata" page 21 verse 8/9 translated by Corey Müske/copyright FIGU-BEAM. The entire translated section of transmitted overpopulation information from the German AA book can be read here, with a different translation (from 2009 = revisions): http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Arahat_Athersata_(book)
Salome/Corey Müske
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Corey
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Posted on Saturday, April 08, 2017 - 10:13 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The recipe for success is worth remembering: Do not consciously procreate more then 529,000,000 (Millionen/million) human beings on the planet Earth, and you will not have to experience cause/effect depopulations as an admonishment (awaken natural fury). If I am a casualty of a future cause/effect depopulation, it is my wish that after my rebirth/I desire I can re-find FIGU all over again, and re-study all over again, and assist, even during future times of natural duress.
Salome/Corey Müske
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Eddieamartin
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Posted on Sunday, April 09, 2017 - 09:29 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Great Post Corey.

Those are all the more reason for those few who recognize and accept their responsibility and set out to do a powerful work and courageous effort to enlighten mankind through the teaching of the life.

All according to the explanations offered by Quetzal and Ptaah. (see below).

For some strange reason, I do not get alarmed with the prophecies but, rather, I see them as a source of the solutions. I read them and see only clues, insights and solutions.

I have experienced that even religious people respond very well to the teaching of the life and even the teaching of the spirit. They resonate well with these teachings.

But the teaching of the truth is too unbearable for the present Earth level consciousness.

"The Spiritual Teaching People"

http://beam2eng.blogspot.com/2017/04/the-outcoming-effects-of-machinations.html?view=flipcard

Billy .... With the irrational craziness of the human beings of Earth, however, this cannot be the case, because they will not let themselves be instructed.


Quetzal .... With this, however, the humankind of Earth drives itself into an abyss without hope of rescue. However, the human beings of Earth shall not die out and be eliminated, which is why suitable measures must be taken.


Billy .... And what should these measures then look like?


Quetzal .... As irrational as it sounds with the cognisances about the terrestrial overpopulation: a new people must be founded. Which, however, must be a people that lives in accordance with the natural creational laws, through which they will become an ideal for the great mass of the humankind of Earth made stupid and has an instructive effect on them. However, I will provide you with more detailed information about this at a later date, in connection with other concerns that relate to your group.


On Wednesday, the 30th of January, 2016, on the occasion of the 642th official contact, Ptaah explained what these people mentioned by Queztal is all about:


Ptaah .... If the talk was of a 'new people', then Quetzal spoke in the sense of a people, according to how Nokodemion in such a wise formed a people, by striving, in a planets-wide mode, to teach the human beings with regard to the 'teaching of the truth, teaching of the spirit, teaching of the life'. So it happened, that planets-wide a great many human beings followed Nokodemion, but remained in their homelands and learned – simply the 'spiritual teaching'. In this wise they formed a planets-wide 'spiritual teaching people', as it was called by Nokodemion and thus became known, which is based on handed down knowledge recorded in our annals. Therefore it did not concern a people of a country or state, rather a planets-wide 'spiritual teaching people', who lived openly and freely around the world in various places and learned and lived the spiritual teaching. Such a people, however, could also be called together for certain purposes at a place, to carry out a particular mission, which Nokodemion did, for example, in order to create peace and unity and to act against aggressors, if the necessity required it. Thus such a 'spiritual teaching people' consisted of human beings of different countries, cultures, and races, who, however, equally concerned themselves with the spiritual teaching and thus, as spiritual-teaching-willing ones, formed a people, in which case such a 'spiritual teaching people' effectively represented a multi-national people and in no kind and wise was to be compared with an organization, because an effective people existed. In the same sense is also a 'new people' to be understood, 'which shall be founded', as Quetzal said. And as you (note: Billy) then also mentioned, it is right that such a new 'spiritual teaching people' in its origin should arise through FIGU, and thus in the Nokodemion manner. This says, that according to the words of Quetzal, the core group members of FIGU represent the actual origin of the 'new people' who gathered and began with the work and spreading of the mission. Through 'continuous new group members and their descendants', as you have said, the 'new people' then shall get together, whereby with that naturally was meant the formation and appearance of the passive members and their descendants. And it just so happened, since the 'new spiritual teaching people' has already begun to form worldwide since 1975 – so not only from 1981 – and now has a considerable number of spiritual teaching students, that is to say, a small 'spiritual teaching people', hence the Quetzal-words, "A new people must be founded", slowly but surely turns into reality.


Billy .... Which must indeed fulfill itself in such a way, since ancient prophecies are laid out in this wise.


Mariann Uehlinger …. Conclusion: If the human being of Earth changes nothing in his/her thoughts, feelings, actions, and deeds to the positive, then an unbearable suffering is certain for him/her, because the above-mentioned sentences of the prophecies will be transformed into absolute fulfilling predictions. The outcoming effects of the terror of the ruling elite-dictatorship will be gruesome and for a long time lead to brutal religious terror, foreign governors, Gewalt-ruling, surveillance dictatorship, peoples-mixing, war, illness, infirmity, hate, terror, revenge, affliction, hunger, thirst, hardship, brutality, torture and torment, immense environmental damage due to climatic disasters as a result of overpopulation, etc., etc. The human being will then not be able to avoid, sooner or later, voluntarily to join the 'spiritual teaching people' and to turn to the 'teaching of the truth, teaching of the spirit, teaching of the life' and to the 'Goblet of the Truth', to study the teaching, to implement it in life and to evolve in terms of consciousness.


In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says:
*Goblet of the Truth*
Live always in love and in peace,
foster freedom and harmony on Earth
and never forget the real truth.
Foster your life always in goodness of heart
and live in the true BEING of the Creation.
The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you,
not to the bane – but to the boon.
Semjase Silver Star Center, 13 July 2008, 3:21 a.m.
Billy

Author: Mariann Uehlinger, Switzerland

Translation: Bruce Lulla, USA // Mariann Uehlinger, Switzerland
Salome,
Eddie

In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says:
Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3)
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Bronzedesk
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Posted on Sunday, April 09, 2017 - 10:02 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Those who have found FIGU and both lived and studied the precepts in this lifetime will do so if that will is as good/well founded as yours and others are in this one. No doubt about it!

bronzedesk(Mat)
And the end of all our exploring, will be to arrive where we started, and know the place for the first time.
~ T. S. Eliot
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Cpl
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If the Internet is up and running, you may be right, Matt. The Internet, however, would likely be one of the first major casualties of a major war. IF America and other developed nations are largely destroyed the world would be functioning without an internet. As Billy has said, we could be back in the dark ages. The world and society's practical needs would be so great that it is difficult to know in what field we would be best incarnated. It would also depend on how soon or distant our spirit's incarnation would be. Once the Internet is back up, and information flowing again, the chance of finding Billy's teachings and materials would increase greatly; but the unknowables here are extensive.
Chris

Use to the full both the heart and head and never lose either.
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Cpl
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Posted on Sunday, April 09, 2017 - 09:06 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks for that post Eddie. Like you, I too am not overly troubled by all the prophecies and predictions. They present the male in me with its necessary challenges and opportunities for development.
Chris

Use to the full both the heart and head and never lose either.
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Corey
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Posted on Monday, April 10, 2017 - 01:54 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ah yes, although taking in the scope of the looming disaster to heart, before they occur does not make one less male, IE: if (when) the American Caldera blows, or the 5 volcanoes in Italy blow, this destruction could kill millions of people that are your people. I think one can balance feeling the pain of the (upcoming) losses of people, with seeing the wisdom that the events will in truth be collective learning experiences for the planet Earth, so a positive (+) can arise.

One can appreciate the wisdom of this FIGU-Landesgruppe Canada video's appeal now: https://youtu.be/dShUTgNzZ0w
Salome/Corey Müske
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Norm
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Posted on Thursday, April 13, 2017 - 04:37 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Population boom and special interests

http://santamariatimes.com/news/opinion/editorial/commentary/guest_commentary/population-boom-and-special-interests/article_50f9bc1e-f431-5791-97e1-66ed581d578d.html
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Norm
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Posted on Monday, April 24, 2017 - 09:08 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Zika outbreak may have led to fewer births in Rio de Janeiro
https://www.newscientist.com/article/2128642-zika-outbreak-may-have-led-to-fewer-births-in-rio-de-janeiro/
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Corey
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Depending on how the possible oxygen collapse goes, we could come close to losing everything, and from that point on, oxygen would be bought and sold like any other commodity here on Earth. Going outside here on Earth would be just as inhospitable as it is on Mars (Biodomes for everyone).
Salome/Corey Müske
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Msmichelle
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That is what concerns me the most about our overpopulation the effects on all of our Health.... which tells me, we may all be adversely affected by what happens to our Health more so than being involved in a War
MsMichelle
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Linda
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Posted on Friday, April 28, 2017 - 09:45 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Msmichelle,

I think you are right on target. I have seen this in type of thing in many other species that were over populated for their territories .
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Learnmore12
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The effects of overpopulation has already started long time ago in the form of air pollution and climate change all over. The deprivation of oxygen in the air will be the climax. It is truly unbelievable how human beings of this earth cannot think logically. It saddens me to see how people are so ignorant about life and how things work despite telling them the facts. They would rather believe in lies than truth.
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Corey
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MsMichelle, yes, adverse health effects will be a drawback to overpop, be it new diseases which will be spread rapidly in this highly travelled planet, or a potential oxygen collapse, before Akart was decimated by thier oxygen collapse, they were decimated from a fierce plague = cause and effect from overpop. What is Earth's future?
Salome/Corey Müske
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Corey
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Learnmore12, Once the natural disasters start kicking in more, and people start dying in natural-induced destruction (Sfath's 1948 P & P's come to mind here), more people should wake up from the lies, or at least it will be more substantial to guide more people to the truth about our overpopulation problems. Too little, too late could be the prevailing overall public perception regarding ceasing overpopulation.
Salome/Corey Müske
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Learnmore12
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Posted on Saturday, April 29, 2017 - 10:54 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Corey,too little too late is exactly what will be on everyone's mind. At least they cannot say at that time that nobody warned them.
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Str0323
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Hello everyone.
Corey, speaking of the prophesies and predictions that Sfath gave to Billy in 1948, is it a prediction that the earth's poles will suddenly flip (reverse polarity) before 2020 and that some places on earth would be hardly survivable?

I used google translate on the document and the translation wasn't very clear to me. If you or anyone else knows the answer I would appreciate it.
Salome,
Scott Reed.
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Corey
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Scott Reed, instead of using Google translate, read this version: https://theyflyblog.com/2017/03/09/real-news-from-1948-to-2025/
Salome/Corey Müske
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Kenneth
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Learnmore12,

To some extent, you are correct. It appears to be not so much that the people "would rather believe in lies than truth". Rather, it seems that many people just do not know the truth from the lies; which has been laid on the people by so called trustees (politicians) elected into positions of trust and responsibility; and of course there are many various religion, teaching the people from “a book of lies”.

Kenneth
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Learnmore12
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Kenneth, it is true that people do not know the truth from lies. It is therefore when someone like Billy try to educate the mass populace about the truth, they do not want to trust that information and dismiss it as lies. It is for this reason that I said that the people would rather believe in lies than in truth despite showing the many proofs that exist. I guess, people have to learn it the hard way.

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