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Norm3
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Post Number: 117
Registered: 07-2016
| | Posted on Monday, November 14, 2016 - 04:35 pm: | 
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Kenneth, June 2006. |
Michael_horn
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Post Number: 1238
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 15, 2016 - 07:34 am: |
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Votan,
Your memory is incorrect. The Plejaren didn't destroy Voyager 1:
http://voyager.jpl.nasa.gov |
Kenneth
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Post Number: 485
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 15, 2016 - 08:59 am: |
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Norm3,
Thanks, yes indeed, a lot can happen in 10 or 11 years of technology improvements.
When you said to Billy in 2006; "Excluding yourself, have there been any earth humans on Mars in the last 60 years?" At that time Billy said, "No".
It would be interesting to see what Billy would say today, if he can Divulge (make known) that information?
A short list of technologies that didn't exist 11 years ago:
The Smartphone
Social Media
E-Readers
YouTube
Functional Consumer Robots
Map Apps
The Cloud
3D Printers
Consumer Virtual Reality
Space Travel, (other than astronauts)
https://www.knomobags.com/usa/blog/10-technologies-that-didnt-exist-10-years-ago
Kenneth |
Cpl
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Post Number: 855
Registered: 08-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 15, 2016 - 07:03 am: |
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I do not recall the Plejaren destroying Voyager. How could they? It seems to me that would be intervention in our planetary affairs, which they do not sanction. They leave a planet alone to develop and learn it's own lessons. As I see it they would not have the legal right to destroy Viking without our consent and asking, and our leaders are too shortsighted to know the danger it represents.
They criticized our sending it, but that was up to us and our wanton action, so it must be left unless our legal representatives ask for its destruction. I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for that.
Chris
Use to the full both the heart and head and never lose either.
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Votan
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Post Number: 636
Registered: 12-2011
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 15, 2016 - 05:46 pm: |
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Cpl
Perhaps they destroyed the info part which showed humans and where we are from.
I am sure on that one.
joe
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Watchdog
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Post Number: 122
Registered: 12-2014
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 15, 2016 - 08:39 pm: |
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This talk of them intervening is sketchy.
They have intervened. They sent impulse intentions in regards to some scientific developments. One of which was the Internet. They also stopped the chain reaction bomb that was being developed. They also had something to do with the Destroyer comet being diverted. If I remember correctly, they did so only because the comet was sent here by accident. Meaning it didn't travel here naturally.
Them contacting Billy is in a way an intervention.
So they do intervene but with exceptions and limits.
All in all. We're on our own.
David AKA Watchdog. USA
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Michaelhelfert
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Post Number: 600
Registered: 09-2011
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 15, 2016 - 09:22 pm: |
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Votan, in a question on this forum, a while ago I asked Herr Meier if the Plejaren would intercept the Voyager/Pioneer spacecraft for us. That may be what you're recollecting. In any case, he said no.
I spose we have own our short-sighted mistakes. They are currently traveling so slowly, it will take them centuries to go a few light years.
Life
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Cpl
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Post Number: 856
Registered: 08-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 16, 2016 - 12:43 am: |
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These were not interventions as they classify the term. Impulses do not constitute intervention or interference. They changed the Destroyer because they were partly responsible for it. They directly have no physical relation to Voyager so they would not, as I see it, change anything to do with it, other than trying to influence, via impulses, those who could change it. Other than instituting impulses I see there is nothing that they could do re Voyager: it is totally OUR responsibility.
Chris
Use to the full both the heart and head and never lose either.
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Joe
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Post Number: 467
Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 16, 2016 - 11:57 am: |
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Kenneth,
In reply to your post 483, Scott B. back in 2002 had posted something about that photo you had recently posted and came to the conclusion that it looks similar to the Viking 1 orbiter.
http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/12/2675.html#POST7320 |
Kenneth
Member
Post Number: 488
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Wednesday, November 16, 2016 - 07:50 pm: |
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Joe,
Very interesting indeed; thanks for the information.
Kenneth |
Ilovebilly
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Post Number: 497
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Saturday, November 19, 2016 - 01:14 pm: |
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Gday Michaelhelfert
good to see you are still around mate
re: your Post Number: 599
my thoughts
Its mentioned three times (from memory) in cnotes that scientists get impulses that stop them getting too big for their boots, in regards to certain knowledge
Statis Quo:
would be affected way too much, religion as bad as a Telonin bomb:
Earths religions are deigned so the spirit creates acids in the brain when religious folks reincarnate, that keeps the delusion going, this takes a few generations to fix unless science finds a way to fix it faster
The effort to keep religion on earth is elaborate to say the least
The High Council and Above direct the Plejaren in regards to Earth matters
about cnote 110 to 116 scientists who get too big for their boots are impulsed (or words to that effect) (if you dont find it try cnotes 100 to 109, its about cnote 110, its in a long cnote, not short) (each time i read a cnote i find new stuff so good to read em every few years i reckon)
since Ur times its the scientits that cause the Big devastating scenarios for planets or even galaxies
the telonin bomb not much harder to make than a nuke:
a ufo easier/cheaper to make than a Cesna:
so The High Council and above not Plejaren are making sure we dont upset the statis quo
banish religion and the rest is easy
in Billys next life its mentioned in cnotes that Billy will be able to talk sense to some church leaders who know what Billy says is true and they are so disgusted they bring down the church from the inside fast, about 2075 is Billys next incarnation, he will be a bit of a Phantom striking blows unseen ;-) like when he was that Russian guy who just wouldnt die rofl
Once we reach a certain level of evolution we can reincarnate fast (in cnotes), Billy and others reincarnate fast during these times, during the confusing change to new ages as its the best opportunity
Its not just this Universe High Council etc.. its 2 universes with an eye on earth,
elaborate wouldnt describe, our minds would have no comprehension of the effort to keep religion from escaping
technology to the Last Perfection, spirit force that comprehends in ALL Time space amd null time space, WE-Forms who protect The Creation since The Creations birth
Resistance is Futile to say the least;-) i Love that saying
In the future The Figu will be masters of science too, not just fine space, they have the answers inside ready to unfold if the time is right, its a natural thing,just another unconscious thought for them
by the way did you see the post about stored info, i think its in symbols section
a ufo would be a piece of cake for figu even now
Salome
ilovebilly
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we have own our short-sighted mistakes. They are currently traveling so slowly, it will take them centuries to go a few light years
yes the probes will come back to haunt
Every Cloud Has A Silver Lining. Truly, I know that there is no resistance to my successes, also not in my thoughts and not in my imagination and also not in my feelings. 77 Being emotional is not logical but is temporary madness and you are either logical or mad not both, i am grateful for my emotions but need to control them.
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Michaelhelfert
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Post Number: 601
Registered: 09-2011
| | Posted on Tuesday, November 22, 2016 - 06:52 am: |
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Gday Ilovebilly,
It's nice to read your thoughts again. They are abit diverse. Full sentences would have slowed you down, no doubt, and punctuation might be too much to hope for, but with abit of pondering I can get the gist of your argument. There's alotta 'there' there. Alotta comments.
Re: scientists who 'get too big for their boots'
Many people start to believe in themselves to the extent that they override common sense, not just scientists. When politicians and legal eagles go too far, their palate is the other people's lives which are affected. When historians and religious leaders self-inflate, insightful myths and religious delusions are rewritten. When Scientists loose their common-sense to scientific exploration, we merely gain greater understanding of the natural workings of the universe. The problem, as I see it, comes not from learning about how the universe works, but rather in intrinsically knowing how to handle that knowledge. Yes, in learning atomic physics we figure out how to make bigger bombs, but we also learn how to develop new power sources, new chemical processes, etc. Our scientific development only needs to be in tandem with our development of genuine wisdom (as opposed to the superficial variety...), and therein is the trouble with Earth.
Re: thought-impulses
As I understand it, the way we think and perceive is to some degree transferred across lifetimes, like a continuous string that runs through a necklace of pearls. 'Acids in the brain' can be a euphemism for the physical components of the brain that develop as a result of our thinking/perceiving processes, a euphemism that can overcomplicate how we need to grasp the concept. Unless we are scientists exploring the physical functioning of the brain, conceptually it might be easier to just think of the process as refining our ability to think objectively and perceive clearly from lifetime to lifetime.
I don't know what schemes the Plejaren, et al, have in place to limit the impact of religious thinking upon those naive extraterrestrial societies with whom we might come in contact, except that there is apparently a loosely-enforced quarantine in place around us. If there are other additional efforts, such as impeding our scientific/technological development, I would sincerely like to be aware of them. I'll check the CN (~110) that you mentioned. Also, I don't know what Herr Meier's next life is supposed to be like. As fluid as our future is, I think we can only speculate what lies in store for any of us.
Overall, your comments seem to me to present a hopeful vision of the future. I like that. Thanks
: )
Life
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Ilovebilly
Member
Post Number: 505
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Friday, November 25, 2016 - 07:32 pm: |
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Gday Michaelhelfert
i am studying hard ATM so will try go over the txt files i save by topic
will post here what i find
Misc. Discussions on Plejaren
http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/12/8873.html
Salome
ilobebilly
Every Cloud Has A Silver Lining. Truly, I know that there is no resistance to my successes, also not in my thoughts and not in my imagination and also not in my feelings. 77 Being emotional is not logical but is temporary madness and you are either logical or mad not both, i am grateful for my emotions but need to control them.
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Kenneth
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Post Number: 505
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Friday, December 02, 2016 - 11:02 am: |
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Interesting U-Tube video. According to new data; "Mars used to be very Earth like. . ." Are Earth scientists finally seeing the truth about Mars, as Billy predicted.
"Scientific Proof of Life, Oxygen, Methane, Ozone, & Flowing Water. The latest test results & images from NASA/JPL."
This video suggests that Mars has a molten core? This is the first time that I've heard this.
Being that NASA was the first Earthling to visit Mars via robots in recent history; if NASA actually did discover something to prove that humans did at one time live on Mars; this information would conceivably be held from the public for further investigation.
https://youtu.be/sWuUSX8639o
Nonetheless, some of the assertions seem to be speculative, at this point in time?
Kenneth
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Tat_tvam_asi
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Post Number: 494
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Thursday, December 15, 2016 - 06:06 pm: |
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WATER everywhere ON CERES …
http://www.space.com/35052-water-everywhere-on-dwarf-planet-ceres.html
… it would support Billy’s explanations:
According to Billy/Semjase the asteroid belt (of which CERES is a large junk) are the remnants of Malona.
(which up to 73,000 years ago was home to 400 million (gene-manipulated) people)
Billy tells us that the planet was destroyed in a fratricidal war by directing parts of an ocean into the underwater magma chambers of a large volcano.
So it should not surprise to find water on a large junk of this planet.
Details see http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Malona |
Tat_tvam_asi
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Post Number: 496
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Sunday, December 18, 2016 - 06:37 pm: |
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Icy Volcanoes on Ceres?
http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2015/03/18/ceres-dwarf-planet-bright-spots-water/24984785/ |
Tat_tvam_asi
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Post Number: 511
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 28, 2016 - 09:02 pm: |
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Did the MIB leave a spoon behind?
http://www.msn.com/en-au/news/world/is-this-proof-of-life-on-mars-alien-enthusiasts-find-spoon-in-nasa-images-of-the-red-planet/ar-BBxFpjK?li=AA5249&ocid=spartanntp |
Tat_tvam_asi
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Post Number: 556
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 07, 2017 - 05:40 am: |
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Mars could have had rivers, lakes, supported life …
“Other scenarios that might explain the water.... change in the Martian orbit that made the Red Planet warmer...”
Details see:
http://www.seeker.com/nasa-mars-curiosity-mystery-atmosphere-water-habitable-2244898840.html
Well, from the meiersaken website we know:
“…The … genetically manipulated human races … found a new home on the planet Mars and Malona/Phaeton, … before Mars, through cosmic impacts, lost the ability to carry human, as well as animal and plant life….”
“…(The remnants of Malona) circle (today) around the sun as an asteroid belt, .. in the place where … Mars previously was, whereas Malona/Phaeton circled around the sun in what today is the orbit of Mars, due to a cosmic event once swapped the orbit of the two planets…”
Details see: http://meiersaken.info/Mars.html |
Kenneth
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Post Number: 567
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 07, 2017 - 01:06 pm: |
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Good article Bill,
When Thomas Bristow, (planetary scientist) said, “Other scenarios that might explain the water of early Mars …//…, or a change in the Martian orbit that made the Red Planet warmer.” "Our findings mean that scientists have to think a bit more deeply about what kind of mechanisms could lead to stabilization of surface water…"
I’ve worked on Moffett Field in California for a period of time and familiar with the Ames Research Center there. I’ll send him a note with some of Billy’s information collaborating his latest Mars theory. Ya never know; will keep you posted.
Kenneth |
Kenneth
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Post Number: 568
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 07, 2017 - 02:57 pm: |
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The email letter sent to Mr. Thomas Bristow, a planetary scientist.
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Dear Mr. Bristow,
Read your article; “NASA's Rover Curiosity Reveals Something Weird About Mars' Ancient Atmosphere”
http://www.seeker.com/nasa-mars-curiosity-mystery-atmosphere-water-habitable-2244898840.html
Other scenarios…
When you said, “Other scenarios that might explain the water of early Mars …//…, or a change in the Martian orbit that made the Red Planet warmer.” "Our findings mean that scientists have to think a bit more deeply about what kind of mechanisms could lead to stabilization of surface water…"
It my understanding that you’re on the correct path so to speak, regarding Mars and an orbit change, etc. Not asking you to believe anything; when you do your investigative research, the truth will be forthcoming. I am a retired aerospace civil engineer. Good luck; I’m not looking for any remuneration of any kind, just looking for the truth to unfold.
Sincerely
Kenneth
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Quetzal
20. That is correct
21. From around one billion years ago the habitable zone, as you call it, still reached to the earlier location of Mars, thus approximately 400 million kilometres.
22. Then, about 75,000 years ago, at the time of the destruction of Phaeton/Malona, (Now Asteroid Belt) the sun developed a sudden high-level activity whereby much more solar energy was released into the width of space in the area of the sun system which caused a tremendously strong vaporization on the planet Mars, which had fallen into its present day orbit.
23. All the CO2 settled in the ground whereby the planet practically <died> and became a red-black dry desert.
24. At the same time the phenomenon also occurred that the habitable zone, which you addressed, within a few months shrank, and only the Earth still remained within it.
25. But in 380 million years will also the Earth slowly slip out of the habitable zone, and in 470 million years, due to the additional energy of the sun, will the greenhouse gas CO2 be reduced to such degree, due to the humidity, i.e. due to the water vaporization, that nothing more can exist because all plants will die and no longer be able to produce oxygen.
Billy
And where then does the CO2 disappear?
Quetzal
26. But I explained that it will settle in the ground.
Billy
Aha, you mean it will settle in the soil so to speak.
Quetzal
27. That is correct.
http://meiersaken.info/Mars.html |
Tat_tvam_asi
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Post Number: 558
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 07, 2017 - 07:41 pm: |
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So, even the CO2 mentioned in the report is accounted for in the CRs!
Thank you, Kenneth, great job - well done, indeed.
Michael, please take note of yet another corroboration. |
Kenneth
Member
Post Number: 677
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Friday, May 26, 2017 - 04:30 pm: |
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When Billy’s material is studied, it’s pretty ease to see through the erroneous and incorrectness of Earthling scientists.
In watching an episode on UFOTV Presents Life on Mars – New Scientific Evidence
Meeting held at the New Yorker Hotel back in the year 2011.
Michael C. Luckman; founder, The Cosmic Majority.
Tom Van Flandern, Ph.D. A former chief astronomer scientist, US Naval Observatory.
Brian O’Leary, Ph.D.; former Apollo scientist/astronaut training for 1st. mission to Mars. (It appears that when O’Leary went public with the Mars mission, he was removed from the program and was told that it was canceled?)
These are supposed to be some of the best scientists that we have, and their convinced that natural rock formations on Mars are actually faces from earlier civilizations? They will stick their preverbal neck out for nonsense like this but will not acknowledge Billy’s work?
These scientists contend that the Faces on Mars are artificial structures:
Face on Mars is manmade not by nature; 1976 Viking image and
1998 MGS image
JPL Website
http://mpfwww.jpl.nasa.gov/mgs/target/CTD1/indes.html
Another face on Mars called Cydonia; “The artificiality of Cydonia is established beyond a reasonable doubt.
This rock face:
The natural origin hypothesis is disproved at odds of 1000 billion-billion to one. In other words, these so called experts contend that both faces are not made by nature.
Some creators look as if made by someone
Glassy tubes with specular reflections, (reflection of the Sun)
Trees as seen from above, 95 percent certain.
Hundreds of small pyramid shadows?
Strings (letters/numbers) of symbols on the ground similar to language symbols as the scientists play with the camera filters? Seriously?
The one issue in this film that these scientists maybe got correct:
Mars experienced a Pole shift 3.2 million years ago, 90 degree sudden change; Mars suffered a horrendous cataclysm at some point in the past.
If these scientists would have read Billy’s material they would know about the Destroyer Planet/Asteroid and the destruction of the plant Melona/Phaeton.
Interesting that the "Future of Mankind" sites would not open that were related to the faces on Mars? "This site can’t be reached". Has something changed? Well, maybe NASA is trying to protect their credibility from Billy's facts? The Plejaren and Billy indicated that these rock faces are just rocks, not carvings.
Kenneth
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Andrew_grimshaw
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Post Number: 42
Registered: 02-2017
| | Posted on Saturday, May 27, 2017 - 06:22 am: |
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Salome Kenneth,
Those natural rock formations ARE actually faces!
I see actual faces (and animals and more) in Nature all the time... in the clouds, in trees (from a distance, usually the leaves), in rock formations! (landscapes are great sources) I've even seen them in cushions on a couch (not sure if I still have the photos I took!) 
Pareidolia https://duckduckgo.com/?q=seeing+human+faces+in+nature&t=lm&ia=web
- The Silent Revolution of Truth -
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