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    Corey Member Post Number: 402 Registered: 10-2016 |
Define "social norm"? From the wiki of "social norm" it is defined as: "from a sociological perspective, social norms are informal understandings that govern the behavior of members of a society." This is all about one's role in his or her society. Red Alert Distress Call: At the last New Year's Eve Plejaren Biogram Earth-population count, we had reached the precipice of almost 9 thousand-million humans. This is roughly 17 times the recommended limit. Recommended limit = 529 million total living humans on the Earth. This is the recommended level for the Arahat Athersata recommended limitation of only 12 humans per square kilometer to cover the span of the entire globe of guaranteed percentage maintainable arable land. As human population numbers go up (and out of the limitations of recommended limitations), the more arable land we lose to desertification. FIGU has a pamphlet with the title "the last tree will fall". This is a rationality- and intellect-based judgement call that if the Earth does not shift it's mentality, and change it's social norms when it comes to procreation, we will lose all of our greenery, and farming abilities to the desert. This is a harsh reality we do not collectively want for our collective future (we are all locked into rebirth on the planet Earth. We will reincarnate into whatever societal environment earlier generations have left for our rebirth [either life and abundance, or the opposite which is death and destruction and want for more]). While we are all busy worrying about what kind of car we drive, what cell-phone we possess, how many times we will procreate, what restaurant we will eat at, and what we look like on the outside of ourselves with our appearances, the world's population numbers have swelled. Take a look at this if you want to know exactly what brand of destruction we will collectively experience as a planet, and one can only guess at what numbers our casualties we will have to bury as part of our people that will be gone from us (only to reincarnate somewhere in this overpopulated society). The social norms of this planet need to drastically change as part of the transition to natural law we need to make to survive the future. Cause and effect will not be diverted, bribed, nor paid to look the other way. As "Goblet" 9:121 states, if you destroy your world, no amount of money you throw at it can ward off calamity. In other words, if we overpopulate, we will have a calamitous future we brought upon ourselves in return as payment for our crime of overpopulation. Cause and effect, with a little of the law of interaction to boot (see 28th chapter of "Goblet"). Why shouldn't one need a high security clearence to procreate? We will need a very tight system of a birth-stop coupled with 7 year birth-rate checks and a very tight birth-permit system. Very tight. How on Earth else will we go from 17 times over the recommendations to be at 529 million in a few centuries time, that was performed humanely? Just think about this tidbit, for the last 17.9 years [from 2012 Contact 544] we have horrendously warmed our oceans with the power of a thermal energy (from overpopulation) which must be computed as the equivalent of two (2) billion Hiroshima atom bombs. It leaves little wonder why the corals are all dying, and why the ocean's global conveyor-belt could break-down. Why must it be a social norm to procreate whenever the hell you want to, without a care in the world for the future livability of this planet, nor a care for future generations' food, water, and natural resources supplies (the collective lack thereof you will reincarnate into as an effect [Wirkung]), nor a care in the world for what earthquake, or perhaps a volcanic eruption, or Caldera eruption one may cause by too many children? To think along these thoughts is just not taught to people, but it should be a planetary teaching (worldwide), and why wait until after all the destruction to start the planetary instruction? The longer we collectively wait for change is the more prophecies we will "lock-in" to have to endure and withstand alongside all of the predictions that are already slated for the planet Earth that one can read about in the link in this article (Sfath's 1948 predictions here) which will decrease our species' future-survivablity rate. Let's change NOW collectively, so we can alter the collective destiny of our people. Don't forget in your future life after you are reborn to the Earth, you will once again be a collective part of the people, who will have to live and endure in whatever conditions we leave them at this very moment in time.~ This is not an anti-"sweetheart" campaign, nor is it an anti-sex campaign. The social norm of branching off as a couple with one's sweetheart is perfectly acceptable. What this is is a birth-control campaign. Federally-mandated, and very tight. Salome/Corey Müske. -"Goblet of the Truth" page 488 & 489 (theme of overpopulation and not following what is natural): ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- 27:62 "Ihr habt nur die Wahl, euch aus euren selbsterschaffenen Verstrickungen zu befreien und der Wahrheit der Schöpfung sowie ihren Gesetzen und Geboten Folge zu leisten – oder unterzugehen." 27:62 "You only have the choice to liberate yourselves out of your self-created entanglements and to follow the truth of the Creation as well as its laws and recommendations – or to go under." | ||
Corey Member Post Number: 408 Registered: 10-2016 |
I've given it some thought, and I think that Earth's birth-rate checks will need to be much wider then 7 years for a time. 20, 30, or perhaps 40 year time-spans will need to be birth-prohibitive, with one year of births allowed every 20, 30, or perhaps 40 years. The reasons for this are two-fold: 1. This is an emergency situation. 2. We need to reach levels of 529 million total living humans as humane, and fast as possible. Don't worry, the human race will not die off with this system. Imagine for a second that a entire generation of babies (youth) is given 20, 30, or perhaps 40 years to become full adults before they are allowed to be replaced with additional newborns, imagine how mature these generations of people would be, and how respectful of the issues that got mankind into this trouble in the first place, and how skillful these people would be at preventing these issues from occurring again in the future if this were planetary Earth law. It would likely only take a few cycles of 40-year generations to work out all of Earth's problems, and the drop in birth-rates would really assist in staving off catastrophic occurrences. And these 40-year generations would have been allowed to become full, mature adults who are well set in his or her careers, and well set in their life-professions and life-destiny before they would be allowed to procreate. And they would be skilled parents who would be carrying the seed of the entire hopes and dreams of the entire planet Earth for the one year of allowed procreation-time (every 40) who would be avoiding youthful-induced mistakes. I also think this would dramatically reduce criminality due to the responsibility of only bring allowed to procreate for one year every 40. Our birth-rates would fall dramatically below our death-rates humanely, and when we reach (worst-case) population levels of 1.5 billion or less, we can revert to the sacred 7 year birth-rate checks with a very tight birth-permit system. Mission accomplished. Salome/Corey Müske. -"Goblet of the Truth" page 488 & 489 (theme of overpopulation and not following what is natural): ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- 27:62 "Ihr habt nur die Wahl, euch aus euren selbsterschaffenen Verstrickungen zu befreien und der Wahrheit der Schöpfung sowie ihren Gesetzen und Geboten Folge zu leisten – oder unterzugehen." 27:62 "You only have the choice to liberate yourselves out of your self-created entanglements and to follow the truth of the Creation as well as its laws and recommendations – or to go under." | ||
Corey Member Post Number: 409 Registered: 10-2016 |
Perhaps there should be 2 or 3 years of allowed procreation-time every 30 or 40. It will remain very consultable after some time. Salome/Corey Müske. -"Goblet of the Truth" page 488 & 489 (theme of overpopulation and not following what is natural): ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- 27:62 "Ihr habt nur die Wahl, euch aus euren selbsterschaffenen Verstrickungen zu befreien und der Wahrheit der Schöpfung sowie ihren Gesetzen und Geboten Folge zu leisten – oder unterzugehen." 27:62 "You only have the choice to liberate yourselves out of your self-created entanglements and to follow the truth of the Creation as well as its laws and recommendations – or to go under." | ||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 1852 Registered: 07-2005 |
Corey whichever way you look at it the ignorant and very uninformed me me me-centric masses with their preoccupation with themselves and their narcissistic and self centred egoist streak will never understand the full back story and context in which your wise views are given about overpop. Frankly who cares whether 7 year birthrate check or 6 or 5 or 4 or 3 years just as long as we get it done as quickly as we possible can. But obviously you or anyone talking about overpopulation and birth cessation will automatically be lumped into the category of agenda 21ist and NWO shills hell bent on wanting to exterminate 2/3 rds of the world's population. Most people will think you were a schizophrenic crank with too many loose nut upstairs. Their proverbial response would be "how dare anyone tell others whether someone can or can't have babies and infringe upon my reproductive rights, who the @#$% do you think you are GOD"!? So the way things are headed it looks like it'll play out the way it is going now without any improvement until at such time that either the Dark Order carries out their controlled pandemics in the form of biological warfare on the masses or the Apophis inadvertently does the job for them. Matt lee | ||
Corey Member Post Number: 412 Registered: 10-2016 |
Howdy Matt, The masses would overreact to population controls, and this could be alleviated by the powers-that-be using the world's media to educate the masses on how overpopulation causes environmental catastrophic occurrences, which we can expect in the deadly forms of the melting of the world's glaciers, rising sea levels which will cause entire countries to disappear, major earthquakes (near population centers), volcanic eruptions to land-based (near population centers) as well as underwater volcanoes (near population centers), tsunamis, the changing of weather patterns, and educate the masses on how this can all one day cause a possible atmospheric collapse and a collapse of the ocean's global conveyor-belt unless the world takes drastic measures to reduce population in the form of a birth-stop. All this would need to be the "talk of the town"* coming from the lips of political/scientific/military/sports/celebrity-figureheads, and would need to be backed up by critical scientific evidence that must be coming from the world's best orbital satellites by now so the masses of Earth can feel better about the fact that they have no choice about population controls (birth-stop with birth-rate checks), and because they would be receiving an education on what is essentially cause and effect, this should hopefully prevent rioting and uprisings once the birth-control started if the explanations were done in a way that would draw everybody in by the truth, and make everyone want to be an active participant in staving off destruction that could be ultimate. This is after all a planetary emergency. Don't laugh, but this could all be the start of an embracement of the planet Earth, and all of our people to accept the transition to natural law (found in the "Goblet of the Truth") in a process for survival mechanisms that could take decades to two centuries, depending on the urgency involved, starting with anti-overpopulation mechanisms that should be immediate. The reasons for dealing with overpopulation first is to deal with the worst-case scenario situation first, to guarantee future life on Earth, then slowly branch out to other natural law situations once the concern about overprocreation has been dealt with, and a birth-stop is in effect, and part of Earth law. WW3 should also be officially cancelled, along with contingency and non-contingency nuclear wars, and all contingency pandemic situations. Sincerely, and Kind Regards, Corey J Müske (Mueske) FIGU Passive member number #7# since 05/14/2009 * "Talk of the Town" = In constant rotation on Earth's major television, radio, and newspapers all across the Earth. Salome/Corey Müske. -"Goblet of the Truth" page 488 & 489 (theme of overpopulation and not following what is natural): ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- 27:62 "Ihr habt nur die Wahl, euch aus euren selbsterschaffenen Verstrickungen zu befreien und der Wahrheit der Schöpfung sowie ihren Gesetzen und Geboten Folge zu leisten – oder unterzugehen." 27:62 "You only have the choice to liberate yourselves out of your self-created entanglements and to follow the truth of the Creation as well as its laws and recommendations – or to go under." | ||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 1854 Registered: 07-2005 |
Yeah corey how we wish it could all just happen right here right now. The big 'BUT' is how the individual within the Dark Order of darkness extricate himself both mentally, psychologically, spiritually and belief wise out of such make believe phantasmagoria of Satan and Lucifer worship and the false lure of power and material riches. Those who have power seldom want to give it up. They are so enmeshed into a system of rank and file within secret societies and secret groups with binding loyalties to it above everything else to such an extent that to sever those ties would be like severing their own leg off. Most do not have the courage to listen to their own reason and conscience The little voice of reason has steadily died within themselves replaced with phantamagoric desires that runs counter to it. So unless real life changing events take place at a personal level that is so profound as to compel them to do the right thing by their conscience looks like the problems to do with overpopulation will never even cross their minds let alone many other smaller issues that they have the capabilities of doing something about. Time will obviously tell of course but we can only try. Matt lee | ||
Corey Member Post Number: 416 Registered: 10-2016 |
When man takes without asking, he dishonours himself. When man overprocreates without asking, and destroys nature, he not only dishonours himself, but he dishonours his planet and his species, because of negative swing-backs from cause and effect, which induce calamitous disaster. We are locked into a certain future, and the severity of the calamity is dependent on what steps we take soon to alleviate our overpopulated planet. When the calamity comes, we won't be able to throw money at it to make the situation go away quietly. The universal causal laws of cause and effect will not be purchased, or made to look the other way. Relief will only come by making the right (correct) decision, by a birth-stop with birth-rate checks for the sakes of all human, plant, and animal life on this precious planet.. We have to stave off this overpopulation disaster before great shame comes over this planet, give it 20 years or so, you will see exactly what shame I am talking about. 9:121 "And if you subject your world to an ordeal (torture), then you cannot give any amount (sum/money), whether great or small, to ward off the resulting calamity, because all the cataclysms (catastrophes) will be so great that you will no longer be able to resolve them, therefore the blame for it must be laid at your door, for which you will receive your reward of terrible things heaped upon terrible things and calamity upon calamity." 9:121 "Und martert (foltert) ihr eure Welt, dann könnt ihr keine Menge (Summe/Geld) geben, sei sie gross oder klein, um das entstehende Unheil zu bannen, denn alles an Umwälzungen (Katastro phen) wird so gross sein, dass ihr sie nicht mehr beheben könnt, so die Schuld daran euch angeschrieben werden muss, wofür euer Lohn Übel über Übel und Unheil über Unheil sein wird." * = "Goblet of the Truth" 9:121, translated officially by the Swiss core-group, copyright FIGU-BEAM (Creative Commons). -In the great words of Michael Horn, "we were warned, did we listen"? Salome/Corey Müske. -"Goblet of the Truth" page 488 & 489 (theme of overpopulation and not following what is natural): ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- 27:62 "Ihr habt nur die Wahl, euch aus euren selbsterschaffenen Verstrickungen zu befreien und der Wahrheit der Schöpfung sowie ihren Gesetzen und Geboten Folge zu leisten – oder unterzugehen." 27:62 "You only have the choice to liberate yourselves out of your self-created entanglements and to follow the truth of the Creation as well as its laws and recommendations – or to go under." | ||
Corey Member Post Number: 417 Registered: 10-2016 |
addendum: When I wrote: "When man overprocreates without asking, and destroys nature, he not only dishonours himself, but he dishonours his planet and his species.." this is also conducive when man overprocreates unwittingly, or unknowing that this is a crime against nature, as is the case on Earth currently in the year 2018. ~Mankind should require permission prior to procreation as a means to keep down and maintain certain population numbers that should be a part of Earth law. Salome/Corey Müske. -"Goblet of the Truth" page 488 & 489 (theme of overpopulation and not following what is natural): ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- 27:62 "Ihr habt nur die Wahl, euch aus euren selbsterschaffenen Verstrickungen zu befreien und der Wahrheit der Schöpfung sowie ihren Gesetzen und Geboten Folge zu leisten – oder unterzugehen." 27:62 "You only have the choice to liberate yourselves out of your self-created entanglements and to follow the truth of the Creation as well as its laws and recommendations – or to go under." | ||
Corey Member Post Number: 418 Registered: 10-2016 |
addendum part II: "There is only one solution: the man must be his own God and help themselves." -Ptaah on overpopulation. A higher power is not going to swoop in an call a birthstop. "Now the bitter fruits of the lack of understanding must be harvested and eaten – even by those which do not contribute to overpopulation -, because you need to be reasonable, mind and action in wise perspective until today has been too stupid, too arrogant and selfish,.." -Ptaah on overpopulation. The reason for the suppression of the truth is religion. NOTE: The powers-that-be must immediately use the world's media to educate the general public on the destruction overpopulation will cause as we eat the bitter fruits in the future, and prepare to hold on tight. http://www.futureofmankind.info/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_589 Salome/Corey Müske. -"Goblet of the Truth" page 488 & 489 (theme of overpopulation and not following what is natural): ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- 27:62 "Ihr habt nur die Wahl, euch aus euren selbsterschaffenen Verstrickungen zu befreien und der Wahrheit der Schöpfung sowie ihren Gesetzen und Geboten Folge zu leisten – oder unterzugehen." 27:62 "You only have the choice to liberate yourselves out of your self-created entanglements and to follow the truth of the Creation as well as its laws and recommendations – or to go under." | ||
Tat_tvam_asi Member Post Number: 794 Registered: 04-2011 |
Thank you, Corey. "... the law of cause and effect cannot be purchased ..." Very true, indeed. There is one important incentive that mankind should include in its planning to overcome overpopulation: == A NEW LOOK AT THE ROOTS OF HUMAN SUFFERING == If we summarize the modus vivendi of living beings in our universe we could say that the offspring inherit the genes and traditions and learn the knowledge/instincts/impulses of their parents in order to further develop them. This modus vivendi holds true for the universe itself (in its relation the (parent) Ur-universe), all its living beings, including the human beings on our planet. These human beings are – at least in part - the distant offspring of Sirian ancestors. Thus, applying to what we mentioned before, our terrestrial lives – they are as well a part of the evolutionary path to further develop the genes we inherited from our Sirian ancestors. Among these genes is as well the genetic disposition to overpopulate: 1. CR 251 *) tells us that the SO had a tendency to overpopulate (OP) - so much so that drastic measures had to be applied (children had to be killed) 2. As the OP trait was a long-term habit of the SO, it would have become a part of their genes. 3. In addition they had built up a completely peace-based mind-set, ignoring their ability to defend themselves; this excess, too, became a part of their genes: they were born with it. 4. The forces of nature, however, are based on a balance - if man fails to do so by reason than nature establishes this balance by force: This explains that the SO were attacked and subjugated. 5. But instead of changing their peaceful state of mind into a willingness and readiness to defend themselves when needed, they may have thought “instead of killing our too numerous offspring - why don’t we gene-manipulate and use them as warrior humans that free us?” (^) 6. Their plan was successful – their gene-manipulated warrior children (WC) freed them. 7. But the SO failed to see the outside attack as a wake-up call to revert the gene-manipulation of their WC and to change their own too one-sided genetics (overpopulation / unreadiness to defend themselves if attacked) – they wanted to keep their WC as their protectors. 8. The rebellion and escape of the WC necessitated to change their mistaken thinking. (^) Point 4 is my own opinion) Why do I mention this? Because the WC, and their descendants would have hated their "evil ancestors": - it, too, would have - unwittingly - become a part of their genetics -even a person today, reading the truth about the inherited "Original Sin", may view the SO with hate. But a child that hates its ancestors – even if they were bad ancestors – is drawn to destroy – itself and his environment. And this is exactly our world today – it is full of hate and destruction. It is filled with human beings - on a path to ultimately destroy – themselves and their environment… It is our thought that changes the world: Yes, the SO made their grave mistakes along the path of their evolution. Yes, these mistakes caused an endless, severe misery for their descendants (us). - BUT WE SHOULD NOT HATE. We should see it as our evolutionary duty to overcome the wrong that we inherited from them – incl. their gene-manipulation (“Original Sin”) and their drive to OP. With this thought of universal oneness our consciousness is on the right track of evolution: If we see us in all beings and all beings in us we cannot hate any living being. - ESP. NOT OUR ANCESTORS. It is no accident that they are a part of our growth in strength. As we are a part of theirs. **) Salome, Bill *) CR 251 http://www.futureofmankind.info/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_251 **) We mentioned the need for love in our time: http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/13/1157.html#POST84494 | ||
Votan Member Post Number: 860 Registered: 12-2011 |
Corey There is one problem with your email on population control. We were given free will and each of us decides our destiny. Education is the key. Where is the population explosion in 3 rd world countries. Why? I have told you why before.No use going on about it. Can you solve the problem.NO joe | ||
Corey Member Post Number: 419 Registered: 10-2016 |
Bill, Thank you for the report, that was very interesting indeed. Learning not to hate other individuals who are a part of our present, and past (Sirian ancestors) are indeed part of learning oneness based on universal natural law. That's the best part of what the Meier case offers, a chance to make up for the past our Sirian aggression/aging genetically-manipulated ancestors and present generations have had to deal with being "shorted" a full life, perhaps a timely transition to the natural law of the universe for our people to the laws and recommendations of the Creation, gewaltsame Gewaltlosigkeit, a banishment system, and a birth-stop with the sacred birth-rate checks. Salome/Corey Müske. -"Goblet of the Truth" page 488 & 489 (theme of overpopulation and not following what is natural): ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- 27:62 "Ihr habt nur die Wahl, euch aus euren selbsterschaffenen Verstrickungen zu befreien und der Wahrheit der Schöpfung sowie ihren Gesetzen und Geboten Folge zu leisten – oder unterzugehen." 27:62 "You only have the choice to liberate yourselves out of your self-created entanglements and to follow the truth of the Creation as well as its laws and recommendations – or to go under." | ||
Corey Member Post Number: 421 Registered: 10-2016 |
Scott: please kindly replace my other post to Votan in queue with this simplified version: Votan (Joe), If you do not agree with the FIGU recommendations [per Billy and the core-group] regarding population birth-stop and birth-rate checks, which are actually based on an old system the Plejaren still use, then why do you still post on the FIGU forums after all these years? Salome/Corey Müske. -"Goblet of the Truth" page 488 & 489 (theme of overpopulation and not following what is natural): ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- 27:62 "Ihr habt nur die Wahl, euch aus euren selbsterschaffenen Verstrickungen zu befreien und der Wahrheit der Schöpfung sowie ihren Gesetzen und Geboten Folge zu leisten – oder unterzugehen." 27:62 "You only have the choice to liberate yourselves out of your self-created entanglements and to follow the truth of the Creation as well as its laws and recommendations – or to go under." | ||
Hugo Member Post Number: 513 Registered: 04-2015 |
Votan, many/most people are thick as bricks or simply don't care so I doubt education will fix overpopulation or many of the world' other problems. | ||
Votan Member Post Number: 861 Registered: 12-2011 |
COREY What makes you an expert on human behaviour.Not very nice to say people are thick as bricks. I actually think what I say before I follow the crowd mentality. joe | ||
Corey Member Post Number: 422 Registered: 10-2016 |
Votan, Are you certain I said anything about people being like bricks? Are you entirely certain? Check again. Salome/Corey Müske. -"Goblet of the Truth" page 488 & 489 (theme of overpopulation and not following what is natural): ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- 27:62 "Ihr habt nur die Wahl, euch aus euren selbsterschaffenen Verstrickungen zu befreien und der Wahrheit der Schöpfung sowie ihren Gesetzen und Geboten Folge zu leisten – oder unterzugehen." 27:62 "You only have the choice to liberate yourselves out of your self-created entanglements and to follow the truth of the Creation as well as its laws and recommendations – or to go under." | ||
Hoota_thunk Member Post Number: 30 Registered: 07-2017 |
Thank You Corey, You beat me to it, I let a couple of days pass before saying something so as to not go off the handle; Votan, the solution has been offered to deaf ears since Henoch (Enoch) if Chapter 4:5 of Goblet of The Truth can be seen as his teaching. So, if Corey were to get the recommendation of moderate procreation put into practise by his actions, then yes he can solve the problem! As can any rational, logical, purpose striving human of this Creation. Even though I don't see it happening for several hundred years, I can appreciate Corey's efforts; he knows the very cause of all our troubles on this planet. "If the coming events and catastrophes, which break out over the Earth, the climate and humanity, are considered and analyzed, then it is clear and distinct to recognize that singly and alone the entire blame is borne by the Earth human and indeed, as already explained, through the incessantly growing overpopulation, from which all problems come about which can no longer be overcome in simple frameworks, rather only still through worldwide radical and rigorous laws and their observance." http://www.futureofmankind.info/Billy_Meier/Where_are_you_going_humanity%3F Andrew Grimshaw - The Silent Revolution Of Truth - | ||
Hugo Member Post Number: 514 Registered: 04-2015 |
COREY What makes you an expert on human behaviour.Not very nice to say people are thick as bricks. Votan, it was me who said that if care to look. Regardless of what you think or say that is my opinion and I stand by it. Look at the state of the world and how we act and do? Look at what happened when the Plejaren did that experiment with two androids where one android was giving the other illogical responses like what Billy was subjected to from early Figu 49 core members and then self destructed. If Figu core members were/are like that then that says a lot about the rest of us in my opinion. Education will fall on deaf hears with overpopulation. Money/wealth is linked to the growth of overpopulation so doubt anything will be done until the problem becomes acute. Billy once said something like that - a problem has to become acute before we do something about it, and he was right. Maybe next century education may work imo. | ||
Corey Member Post Number: 423 Registered: 10-2016 |
Votan, Cry me a river about your free will and destiny when the atmosphere collapses, or when the pole shifts (and when a good majority of the people will die on this planet [per Sfath]), or cry me a river that I am interfering in your "procreational-rights" when the ocean's global conveyor-belt breaks down, and kills the vast majority of life on this planet [per Ptaah]. Your wrong about one detail, It's like Andrew Grimshaw states, If I were in charge I would be able to solve the problem by following the recommendations put forth per Billy and the core-group. I wouldn't give a damn about your free-will either, a birth-stoppage would be my first decree because this is a dire planetary emergency. You would be on male birth control until you could prove you were a qualified parent. I would also be enforcing the core-group's recommendation that people caught procreating without authorization would be fined 14 times their annual salary. If you cannot tell by everyone's responses here, I am not the oddball, you are, coming onto a FIGU forums, and badmouthing the FIGU [per Billy and the core-group] recommendations that are real solutions for our planetary emergency of overpopulation. I noticed you still haven't answered my question I asked with post #421. Hmmm. It's obvious you follow the herd mentality still when it comes to overpopulation, as you do not want others to infringe on your "reproduction-rights" because it might interfere with your destiny. Billy wrote many a sentence in a book about destiny, which I've read, and I think you missed the mark. Which FIGU books have you personally read, can you name the titles? We're all ears here. Salome/Corey Müske. -"Goblet of the Truth" page 488 & 489 (theme of overpopulation and not following what is natural): ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- 27:62 "Ihr habt nur die Wahl, euch aus euren selbsterschaffenen Verstrickungen zu befreien und der Wahrheit der Schöpfung sowie ihren Gesetzen und Geboten Folge zu leisten – oder unterzugehen." 27:62 "You only have the choice to liberate yourselves out of your self-created entanglements and to follow the truth of the Creation as well as its laws and recommendations – or to go under." | ||
Corey Member Post Number: 424 Registered: 10-2016 |
addendum: ~further information on the atmospheric collapse can be found in contact #481, which will be driven from overpopulation if it comes true. ~further information on the coming pole shift, and how great portions of Earth humanity will die, can be found in Sfath's 1948 predictions, sentences 286-288. excerpt 288: " Through the period of the wandering of the poles there will be many tremendous worldwide tremors and changes – due to which a great part of Earth humanity will die – which will be natural but also caused by the planetwide irresponsibly bred up overpopulation as well as its nonsensical, destructive, eliminating and exterminating excesses." 288 original German: "Durch die Periode der Polwanderungen wird es zu vielen natürlichen, wie aber auch durch die planetenweite verantwortungslos herangezüchtete Überbevölkerung sowie deren unsinnige, zerstörende, vernichtende und ausrottende Ausschreitungen zu ungeheuren, weltweiten Erschütterungen und Veränderungen kommen, durch die ein grosser Teil der Erdenmenschheit umkommen wird." * found here translated by by Vivienne Legg with assistance from Mariann Uehlinger Mondria and Dyson Devine and amended by FLAU. Copyright FIGU-BEAM. ~further information on the break-down of the ocean's global-conveyor belt caused by overpopulation, that if allowed to continue, can exterminate all life on Earth [per Ptaah], see contact #544. All intelligent and rational comments (only) welcomed. Intellectualize your rationality, and rationalize your intelligence and engage.~ Salome/Corey Müske. -"Goblet of the Truth" page 488 & 489 (theme of overpopulation and not following what is natural): ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- 27:62 "Ihr habt nur die Wahl, euch aus euren selbsterschaffenen Verstrickungen zu befreien und der Wahrheit der Schöpfung sowie ihren Gesetzen und Geboten Folge zu leisten – oder unterzugehen." 27:62 "You only have the choice to liberate yourselves out of your self-created entanglements and to follow the truth of the Creation as well as its laws and recommendations – or to go under." | ||
Cpl Member Post Number: 979 Registered: 08-2004 |
Votan and All, It pays to look at the facts rather than professorial theoretical theses regarding overpopulating and the third world. You ask, Votan, "Where is the population explosion in 3 rd world countries?h Presumably, you have never bothered to look yourself to answer the question but just assumed your sources are correct when aspects of their specific theories may be correct but are wrong in practice and our current world. If you had bothered to search you would see that Wikipedia gives a clear visual map and explanation at gList of countries by population growth rate.h We can all see there that African countries, the Middle East, Pakistan, India, Indonesia, Mexico, and South America are the fastest growing populations. A lot of European countries and Japan are experiencing population decrease. A simple search on "countries with the fastest growing populations" reveals that while populations are flat or declining in developed nations, developing nations like Africa are slated to experience rapid growth. Indeed, the average Ugandan woman currently has 6.4 children! Africa and Southern Asia, which are projected to be the areas of highest population increases, already suffer the consequences of overpopulation. Populations in Uganda, Nigeria, and Bangladesh are projected to double or triple in the next 40 years, and the process is already underway. The Population Reference Bureau World Data Sheet shows conclusively that Africa, The Middle East, Indonesia, Pakistan, Mexico, and South America are the areas of greatest population expansion, while Japan, Germany, China, much of Europe (Caucasians) and Russia are all in decline. The United States is the only nation expected to add significantly to its population between now and 2050, and that is primarily due to immigrants. This underscores why the implementation of population controls is so problematic: Developed nations can much more effectively enforce laws than developing nations where lawlessness is far more common; and that is if you can get population laws passed. Chris Use fully to the best both heart and head and never lose either. | ||
Votan Member Post Number: 862 Registered: 12-2011 |
I am getting tired of you hi jacking the site on over population.I did not say that I did not agree with you.Go and spread your opinion to the masses and not to us. I go on the site to learn new things and not so many of your postings on over population.What on earth are you on about not agreeing with FIGU . I never said that.There are many causes. I do not respond to most listings because there is nothing new.I do not know how old you are, but I have been around a few more years than you and have learnt a lot more. joe | ||
Votan Member Post Number: 863 Registered: 12-2011 |
Cpl Thank you for your reply on causes of over population. Well written and I hope that we can get back to meaningful posting now and learn new things. joe |
