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Corey
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Posted on Saturday, May 05, 2018 - 10:27 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Overpopulation is meaningful because the negative effects of it will be the very definition of our entire civilization for the next few hundred years, and although we cannot see it in today's time, in tommorow's time it will be that catastrophic that it will redefine our entire civilization.

The effects will test our very humaneness and humanness, as well as our emergency responses. How we react to the effects (we meant only collectively, as an entire people, or as an entire race [terrestrials]), and what responses the powers-that-be take to counteract overpopulation will be the ultimate test for our civilization if we are to continue as a species.

we, our = meant collectively as a species.

That is all I have to say about it. Good day to you again sent from me to you all during my short (brief) visit here on the forums.~
Salome/Corey Müske. -"Goblet of the Truth" page 488 & 489 (theme of overpopulation and not following what is natural):
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27:62 "Ihr habt nur die Wahl, euch aus euren selbsterschaffenen Verstrickungen zu befreien und der Wahrheit der Schöpfung sowie ihren Gesetzen und Geboten Folge zu leisten – oder unterzugehen."

27:62 "You only have the choice to liberate yourselves out of your self-created entanglements and to follow the truth of the Creation as well as its laws and recommendations – or to go under."
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Getknowledge
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Posted on Wednesday, July 11, 2018 - 11:22 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Alleged time travelers say global warming (overpopulation) is the #1 problem in the near to distant future and beyond. Skies will be red in the year 2100 due to co2, and temperatures hot, sky scrapers larger than the ones in New York.

One has to wonder when will humanity find the correct solution which is to reduce the world population according to the size of the planet, and according to Creational Law.
Tien
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Hugo
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Posted on Thursday, July 12, 2018 - 04:37 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Getknowledge, where did you get this info about alleged time travelers saying that? I be curious to see the proof they are time travelers.
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Getknowledge
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Posted on Friday, July 13, 2018 - 12:38 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

ApexTV Youtube, they make paranormal and mysterious content but well known for time travel videos. No real proof what is interesting from these alleged time travelers is the information and the correlation with each other like their warnings about CO2. Each of them say time travel is revealed publicly in the year 2028. ET contact is also made at that time and described as being advanced only in technology correlate with Billy's info. Time will tell.
Tien
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Hugo
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Posted on Friday, July 13, 2018 - 04:53 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Getknowledge, thanks but I think I will give watching them videos a miss because it don't add up to me. If time travelers from the future wanted to warn us about overpopulation and CO2 levels I can think of more better ways for them to do it then through Youtube videos that only a tiny portion of people will watch. Especially if they try to do it through the UFO community that is plagued with nonsense and the lowest form scientific analysis and logic.

In the contact reports the only mention of time travelers from our future have to do with sneakingly trying to change Billy's spirit teachings on his computer so they can hold some form of power in their future time frame. Not a noble deed which makes me think that any time travelers from our future will not have good intentions. I could be wrong but I'll stick with that thanks.
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Hugo
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Posted on Friday, July 13, 2018 - 05:00 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Also, if they wanted to get their message across they would have left some form of proof like Meier did to give their message credence.
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Michael_horn
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Posted on Friday, July 13, 2018 - 08:05 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hugo,

As far as I know, it is NOT the future time travelers messing with Billy's computer.

See:

https://theyflyblog.com/705th-contact-excerpt-elites-by-larry-driscoll/2018/06/05/
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Hugo
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Posted on Friday, July 13, 2018 - 08:41 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

MH,

Are you sure because I thought I read in the contact reports somewhere that Billy asked Ptaah about him finding wording changed in his spirit teachings and Ptaah said something like it was likely future Earth time travelers doing it for reasons in their future?
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Michael_horn
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Posted on Friday, July 13, 2018 - 10:45 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hugo,

Read the info about who they say is doing it.

I don't recall that the future travelers were said to be messing with things but if you have another reference please post it.
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Getknowledge
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Posted on Saturday, July 14, 2018 - 09:49 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Time will tell if ApexTV is being used to perpetuated an elaborate hoax involving many people from different backgrounds and countries.

The interviews of the alleged time travelers will become viral if the predictions come true, giving them credence; Trump winning a second term, Trump meeting with ET's, Trump dies of a stroke, Oprah runs for President but succeeded by Michael Macintosh (today he posted a video link is below), the North Korean war in 2019, Kim Jong-Un taken out, Martin Luther King's granddaughter becoming President, L.A. hit by a 10.2 magnitude earthquake the 'Big One' in 2022, the Mars landing by SpaceX in the mid 2020's, time travel revealed in 2028 and ET contact, etc.

The Earth changes described by the alleged time travelers is also in accord with Billy saying that everything prior to 2030 will be considered trivial.

During their live stream, there were a lot of questions coming from a young audience who will be making the crucial decisions in the next decade.

The beginning of the new age is near as 2029 approaches, Earth and technological changes are ramping up.

It seems life will become better in many ways but overpopulation and its effects won't be solved and completely reversed until the year 4000.

A serious question to be asked is, "What is the human capacity for our planet?"

There is no general consensus, no real understanding of "overpopulation" which is not about space alone.

The colonization of Mars still leaves billions of people remaining on Earth.

Artists need to envision a world that is not populated apposed to a dense world with skyscrapers twice the size of the empire state building, people living like sardines.

It has to be apparent that every habitable planet in the Universe needs population control, that extreme exploitation is equivalent to the destruction of a planet. A merely technologically advanced society will not solve overpopulation and 99% of all problems stemming from it; political, social, economic and environmental - COMBINED.

Knowing 'why' is half the battle so warnings about overpopulation, Earth changes, the dangers of A.I., government secrecy, etc. can be heeded in a right wise.

"And the origin of everything is overpopulation, which, however, neither humanity nor the responsible scientists, authorities and governments want to accept as true."

"All the responsible ones are too stupid and narrow-minded to recognize that help in regard to the protection of the environment can thereby only be provided when the resolved measures, or the measures yet to be resolved, for the protection of the environment and the protection of the climate, and so forth, are only useful in association with a regulation for a global halt to births."

7/16/2018 - Hello from Michael Macintosh, thoughts on time travel, etc.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lZmgowjG00
Tien
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Votan
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Posted on Saturday, July 14, 2018 - 12:32 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Tien

The only time this will happen when religion and our monetary system changes. These are the two major influences in overpopulation.

i have said this many times.
joe
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Getknowledge
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Posted on Sunday, July 15, 2018 - 12:38 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

All life was wiped out on Planet Akart (belonged the P's federation) due to overpopulation, advice was just disregarded and not followed and declining help from the P's, however, no mention of religion, in Contact Report 476.

Ptaah
81. Earth humans, so I am able to say, are pathologically autocratic and incorrigible, which is why they must first suffer enormous damage, before they see reason and open up their ears and senses to warnings.

82. And if they do not do this, then destruction will one day be their fate.

I think due to religion, people are not able to recognize the Creation, that man is a part of the Earth.

And because of Genesis, Chapter 9, Verse 7:
 
"And as for you, be fruitful and multiply; bring forth abundantly in the earth and multiply in it."

Time travel when possible will enable us to witness and truly know what happened in Jerusalem 2000 years ago. Billy says there are not enough shovels to bury the truth but I wonder if people will somehow still cling to their belief after seeing, or secret factions will somehow prolong the distortion of the truth for another 2000 years.
Tien
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Michael_horn
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Posted on Friday, July 20, 2018 - 06:12 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

AS far as so-called "time travelers" saying things that are reminiscent of what Meier has said, er, LOTS of people read Meier and some just...may be making up their fables based on it.
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Scott
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Posted on Friday, July 20, 2018 - 06:36 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I thought the same thing Michael, entirely possible considering how much information is now available.
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Mosaki
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Posted on Friday, July 20, 2018 - 07:29 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I've seen a few of those time traveler videos on YouTube and they seem cheesy for the most part. There might have been one or two that were more convincing, but even those were highly doubtful. I do find it interesting that their info often lines up with Billy's predictions, but I'll bet those folks over at ApexTV know about the Meier case. As much as I look forward to our technology advancing towards time travel, beamships, advanced medicine and longer life spans, I know it will be a long time before any of it is used to benefit the common people. The elites will hoard it all for themselves, and like always before, the little people will suffer.
Salome,
Melissa Osaki
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Redbeard
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Posted on Saturday, July 21, 2018 - 07:47 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

In contact report 251 billy predicts the Earth people will align themselves with another planets government and we will still be overpopulated but as the defective genetics are reversed then a complete stop of non repaired humans reproduction will be put into force.. I assume that the Akart were normal with long life spans as are the P's and others. It seems so strange to imagine living 300 years or longer and yet still not gain enough wisdom to get the society under control, perhaps wisdom and age don't always go hand in hand....

I know the prime directive comes into play here but I guess they didn't ask for help from their own Federation? Too much logic to worry about for most of this planet as well as Akart I guess...
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Kenneth
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Posted on Saturday, July 21, 2018 - 10:19 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Redbeard,

I’m in the same boat as you regarding the Akart humans in your post 304. Have not read anywhere that the Akartians were involved in religion or politics? Nonetheless, their actions seem to portray some form of political views of a particular variety?

Kenneth
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Getknowledge
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Posted on Saturday, July 21, 2018 - 05:27 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I hope that Billy's material regarding overpopulation and measures in association with birth control as the only real solution would permeate throughout the world as well.

I am skeptical that time travel tech is developed already because it requires the energy from black holes, but who knows what technology is being kept secret, crashed UFO's could actually be time machines.

Withholding this technology is withholding our evolution and full potential, it can be very beneficial to mankind if we can actually see 100 years into the future.

The most credible alleged time traveler from our time is Andrew Basiago from Project Pegasus, who claims to be the kid in the photo during Abraham Lincoln's speech at Gettysburg.

So many mysteries here on Earth.
Tien
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Michael_horn
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Posted on Saturday, July 21, 2018 - 06:08 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

For what it's worth, Basagio is another liar who's never provided one single piece of evidence for his bogus, attention-seeking claims.
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Hoota_thunk
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Posted on Saturday, July 21, 2018 - 11:51 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Good one Redbeard, "perhaps wisdom and age don't always go hand in hand...." made me laugh out loud!
As did, "because it requires the energy from black holes", Tien.

Andrew Grimshaw
- The Silent Revolution Of Truth -
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Cpl
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Posted on Tuesday, August 21, 2018 - 07:26 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

When confronted by someone who suggests the world population is now decreasing the following might help. I just sent it to a colleague:

If you are thinking the world's population is declining, it is not. It is only in the developed world where population is dwindling somewhat.
Developing countries are skyrocketing, and that is pushing up gross global population. The average Ugandan woman now has six children, while Oban tops the list. Do a search on "Countries With the Highest Population Growth." Or "Countries With the Highest Population Growth A list of countries with the fastest growing population."

People often conflate population growth rate with population growth. The global population growth "rate" is on a downward trend, but it is still growing. We need a negative growth rate to reduce the global numbers. (See Wikipedia "population growth.")

According to Wikipedia, in 2017, the human population increased by 83 million. That's just official figures. The Plejaren, as we know, say the world population figure is considerably higher than we estimate.

If anyone thinks Japan's population has been dropping since 1990, it is only in the last four years that Japan has experienced negative growth, or a drop in its population; and that is less than 1/4 of a percent per annum. For proof, perform a search on: worldometers.info/world-population/japan-population/.

Chris

Use fully to the best both heart and head and never lose either.
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Votan
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Posted on Wednesday, August 29, 2018 - 02:25 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Cpl

Here we go again. China has dropped the 2 children policy, not that they could really enforce it.

Watch the population increase.
joe
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Cpl
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Posted on Wednesday, August 29, 2018 - 10:57 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Votan,

China's population is estimated to peak around 2028 and then decline to around 1 billion by the turn of the century. That will still be almost twice the world's recommended population in just one country.

Politicians just don't get that a forever increasing population is as unsustainable as endless economic expansion.
Chris

Use fully to the best both heart and head and never lose either.

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