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    Cpl Member Post Number: 1026 Registered: 08-2004 |
Hi Votan, It was a prediction that gave the location. The Plejaren know of our nuclear detonations, so without our cosmic intervention it can be expected between the Black and North seas. Chris Use fully to the best both heart and head and never lose either. | ||
Getknowledge Member Post Number: 213 Registered: 04-2008 |
Earth humanity must become it's own superhero in this episode of the adventures of Billy Meier comic. To be continued... Tien | ||
Corey Member Post Number: 469 Registered: 10-2016 |
Thanks for responding Kenneth. I can understand Harry's reasoning, and in this polarized country, I can agree with it upon reflection. Salome, Corey Müske. -"Kelch der Wahrheit"/"Goblet of the Truth" ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- 22:08: " Werdet ihr Menschen vom Unglück verfolgt und könnt ihr euer Leben nicht so harmonisch gestalten, wie ihr das gerne möchtet, dann vermögt ihr dies zu ändern, wenn ihr euch dem Einklang der kosmischen Ordnung und damit den schöpferischen Gesetzen und Geboten zuwendet und sie befolgt." 22:08: "If you human beings are pursued by the unfortune and are unable to form your lives as harmoniously as you would like, then you are able to change this if you turn to the consonance of the cosmic regulation and therefore to the creational laws and recommendations, and follow them." | ||
Simon5413 Member Post Number: 7 Registered: 04-2014 |
Has there been any commentary on Oumuamua by FIGU in regards to it being something other than an asteroid? | ||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 1883 Registered: 07-2005 |
This is just a suggestion but as everyone here knows by now Creational natural laws work in mysterious ways sometimes like an elusive fish which requires indirect means to catching it that sometimes involves changing the colour of the lure. In the same vain in order to get the specialist idiots with the so called reputation and fame to pay attention to the Harry Lear's right pi number in order to achieve the correct trajectory of apophis so that the truth can dawn on everyone that by using the right pi and phi number the red meteor is definitely going to hit earth on April of 2036 did Harry by any chance looked at the calculation of pi derived from the great pyramid of giza using billy and the plejaren's correct figure of earth to the distance from the sun which I believe was around 152? By proving that indeed integrated into the design of the great pyramids involved the accurate knowledge of the number pi this could shed a light on the fact that all this time the right pi number was there all along within the great pyramids of giza hence why it is important to revise just about everything to do with pi and why solving the riddles of the pyramids by extension will lead people questioning all other calculations to do with pi that were always approximations including the distance of stellar objects and even long range surface to air missile systems. Would this help and worth pursuing ? Matt lee | ||
Cpl Member Post Number: 1031 Registered: 08-2004 |
Hi Matt, Billy and the Plejaren say the correct average distance to the sun from the earth is 152,955,347 km which is 1.0 au, and that the original height of the pyramid was 152.955347 m. Unfortunately we cannot prove either of these figures correct; our scientists think the au is 149,597,870.7 meters. I am not aware of any direct relationship between au, 152955347 and pi as they relate to the Great Pyramid. What I do note is the following two paragraphs that I communicated to Billy: The original Great Giza Pyramid height coefficient 152955347 evinces a broad utility: 1.52955347 au, and reincarnation period; 152.955347 original Pyramid height in meters, and safe distance for tachyon drive in millions of km; and 152,955,347 light speed and total number of elements coefficient. Even more correlations to time, energy, space travel, time travel, element and planet formation, and the emergence of human life or human life-supporting physical matter seem likely. Perhaps, then, it also correlates to the Golden Ratio Phi, rootPhi, or pi. Phi,rootPhi, and pi, are respectively: 1.6180339c, 1.2720196c, and pi 3.1446055c (or 3.14159c). Billy informs us that 3.1446055c pi is key to our future sciences, hyperspace travel, and time travel. Meanwhile, researchers of pi show 3.1446055c= pi = 4/rootPhi and their pyramid height is rootPhi. I am no math or pi expert, but very curiously I notice 4/Phi2 = 1.52786404c which correlates 99.9% to 1.52955347c.. Given pi = 4/rootPhi = 3.1446055, perhaps 4/Phi2 is also a key, and relates to 152955347c. Alternatively, with the CRsf 1.26 mean au falling within 1% of rootPhi perhaps rootPhi relates to 152955347c The problem as I see it, is we are not showing the scientists the flaw in their calculation for pi using their methodology. The reductio ad absurdum method seems flawless as far as the calculation goes, and they have no reason to discard it unless we show there are errors within it -- and computers show it accurate -- or we show how the reductio ad absurdum methodology is the wrong process to calculate pi. I do not know anyone, including myself, of course, who can show our scientists this. Hence they stick with it. The difference of 0.003 is doubtless seen by our scientists as being within Harry's methodology rather than their own. To the scientists, computers appear to point to the reductio ad absurdum as not having that error. Merely claiming that another method giving another answer is right and the scientists' answer is wrong is not going to budge any scientist's opinion unless we pinpoint the error within their calculations. Chris Use fully to the best both heart and head and never lose either. | ||
Kenneth Member Post Number: 919 Registered: 04-2013 |
Hi Matt, Yes, to my knowledge Harry Lear did work with the calculated dimensions of the Cheops pyramid; even though it is not 100% accurate today due to natural weathering over 70,000 plus years and human tampering etc., to also include what Guido Moosbrugger also worked out with his calculations of the correct Pi. The issue is that almost everything is based on the Pi = 4 / sqrt Phi. Mr. Lear’s Math problems menu choices on his web site, both for the Apophis Crash problem and the redefinition of the new 'Kilogram problem' which also uses the wrong value of Pi in Vol = 4 /3 (Pi) r^3 for their “perfect sphere” measurement of how many atoms are in a given diameter of a Silicon 28 isotope sphere. As you may know, 1-AU or one Astronomical Unit is the AVERAGE distance from the Earth to the Sun. 1AU is 149,598,000 kilometers or 92,955,000 miles. However, this distance is also calculated with equipment derived from using the incorrect Pi calculation. NOTE on AU AVERAGE: The distance varies as Earth orbits the Sun, from a maximum (aphelion) to a minimum (perihelion) and back again once a year. The A-Team, aka, The Apophis Team, Project Defense (ATPD) now has nine members with diverse strengths; nonetheless we are all of equal value, all working on the 99942 Apophis issue one way or another. Harry did inform the Team that there has recently been more activity than normal on his website; it appears that it is not the general public, hopefully the right folks are looking at this for the correct reasons. A note of interest (concern), in a recent news article, Russian scientists have ostensibly made a statement that 99942 Apophis will strike Earth in the 2030’s, if nothing is done! Are the Russians using the corrected Pi calculation? Kenneth | ||
Patm Member Post Number: 642 Registered: 07-2006 |
@Matt Lee re: ... did Harry by any chance looked at the calculation of pi derived from the great pyramid of giza using billy and the Plejaren's correct figure of earth to the distance from the sun which I believe was around 152 ... from my understanding Harry became aware of the correct number for pi from a contact report which also explained the Great Pyramid astronomical calculations integrated into its construction. See: https://creationaltruth.org/LinkClick.aspx?fileticket=Kj6j128wQHs%3d&tabid=1235&portalid=0&mid=4428 Hope this helps PatM | ||
Kenneth Member Post Number: 920 Registered: 04-2013 |
For what it's worth; it would appear that Russia was very aware of 2004 MN4, 99942 Apophis. It also appears that the Russian scientists are not using the corrected Pi of 3.144605511… based on their conversations? "Russian scientists propose mission to "tag" dangerous asteroid... In 2008, a team of engineers at NPO Lavochkin proposed an unmanned mission, which could place a radio beacon on the surface of asteroid 2004 MN4 Apophis. The 350-meter space boulder, discovered in 2004, was expected to pass as close as 36,000 kilometers from Earth in 2029 and, according to some estimates, the gravitational pull of the planet could put it on a collision course with Earth in 2036. A two-stage Zenit rocket (Zenit-2SB41.1) lifted off from Site 45 in Baikonur Cosmodrome, Kazakhstan, on Nov. 9, 2011, at 00:16:02.871 Moscow Time… Russian scientists argued that in order to rule out the possibility of Apophis colliding with the Earth, the space rock’s orbit should be tracked with an accuracy of dozens of meters. This could be achieved only with a transponder anchored to the asteroid, as even the most powerful radio-telescopes on Earth cannot track such a small body precisely enough. Western media; Russia's "secret plan to save the Earth from an asteroid. Nevertheless, US Congressman Dana Rohrabacher, representing State of California, a major base of the US aerospace industry, took Perminov's interview seriously enough to promise lobbying for a joint US-Russian asteroid-deflection mission… One component, known as Small Unoriented Artificial Satellite of Asteroid, MNISA, would serve as a radio-beacon for a 5-10-year mission to precisely measure Apophis' trajectory. Russian sources claimed that it would enable to improve the accuracy of asteroid's trajectory predictions by 10,000 to 100,000 times. This prognosis could extend all the way to 2036... Following the disastrous launch of the Phobos-Grunt spacecraft, the mission to Apophis… By November 13, Phobos-Grunt stopped its mysterious thrust upwards, a leading satellite observer, Ted Molzcan reported based on published data from the US tracking radar. The spacecraft's orbit resumed its slow natural decay, dropping by around 1.2 kilometers of altitude along a semi-major axis. According to Molzcan, Phobos-Grunt would reenter the atmosphere on Jan. 12, 2012." | ||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 1884 Registered: 07-2005 |
Hi Chris I am stretching my head wondering how they could that reductio ad absurdum calculation be flawless when the height of the pyramids which they got wrong can easily be calculated from the base of the pyramids where the lime capstone is still present in some section of the pyramids which they could basically follow all the way to the apex of the pyramid to get billy's correct figure? Matt lee | ||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 1885 Registered: 07-2005 |
Hi Kenneth perhaps the average AU distance they have derived did not factor in the distance of the earth to the Sun when the pyramid were originally built some 73,000 odd years ago give or take. They have to be convinced of the fact that when muan asteroid decimated greater and lesser Atlantis some 13,500 years ago give or take the earth's orbit around the sun must have also moved further out from the sun. What do you think? Matt lee | ||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 1886 Registered: 07-2005 |
Thanks Pat for the CR link Matt lee | ||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 1887 Registered: 07-2005 |
Regarding your post 920 Kenneth in the end I think that it'll be a collaborative international effort to deflect apophis but Europe being so close to the impact zone has far more to lose than the Russians therefore I think that the French space agency along with the others will step up. Who knows but what you and other forum members wrote here may just act as the impetus for getting these countries to do something about this red menace as it isn't just the Russians and the Americans monitoring this forum but now the Chinese, Germans, the French, the Italians, the Japanese and even the British and the Israelis. I envision the numerous catastrophes which will directly befall the lay men as well as the scientists alike who have taken a cursory glance at the Meier's contact case at some point in time with various stuff that billy has written jolting them to remember them that by 2029 with the close passing of apophis through the keyhole that they will then in their abject horror recognise Billy as having told the truth all these years which will then drive them at feverish pace to organise an international apophis deflection project. What do you think? Matt lee | ||
Cpl Member Post Number: 1032 Registered: 08-2004 |
Matt, no knowledge of the pyramid is required to calculate pi. Chris Use fully to the best both heart and head and never lose either. | ||
Kenneth Member Post Number: 921 Registered: 04-2013 |
Hi Matt, Regarding your post 1885. You bring up some interesting points; nonetheless, finite details . . . it’s my understanding that Greater Atlantis and Lesser Atlantis were not destroyed at the same time, Lessor Atlantis existed for a long time after Greater Atlantis was destroyed by the asteroid directed by a Moan cosmonaut? When the pyramids were built in current Egypt some ~73,000 years ago, the average AU distance between Earth and the Sun were more than likely correct, very good point? Nevertheless, measuring the pyramid today for 100% accuracy would be a challenge due to weathering, removal of the outer stone layers, etc. There is another tool that might be used to determine the true Pi of 3.144605511…, to my knowledge, no one has checked into this yet; I’m referring to the ‘Antikythera Mechanism’ that was discovered in the Aegean Sea. This ancient astronomical calculator is now dated to around 205 B.C. which is apparently over a thousand years more advanced than anything else found from that time period. According to reports, this calculator/computer was found in a Roman ship wreckage; I have my doubts that the Romans designed this mechanical computer. Nonetheless, in my opinion, this device would have to incorporate the correct Pi calculation? Regarding the Earth orbiting a little further from the sun today than thousands of years ago is also my understanding. The 'A-Team', aka, Apophis Team Project Defense (ATPD) group is diligently working with several different significant contacts to help folks recognize the error is the current Pi calculation. We know that the average AU distance between the Earth and the Sun is incorrect. The issue is that all the equipment that was designed and manufacture to acquire the current AU distance, also used the incorrect Pi number. Regards Kenneth | ||
Cpl Member Post Number: 1033 Registered: 08-2004 |
Matt, I suppose the average au may have been very slightly different when the pyramids week built. The au is a huge number so it may not have made a difference, but I don't know for sure. It might be too late to alter the course of Apophis after 2029. That would give us less than seven years to correctly alter its course. Hopefully, that is possible, but it is not comfortable or wise leaving ones life dependent on hope. Chris Use fully to the best both heart and head and never lose either. | ||
Cpl Member Post Number: 1034 Registered: 08-2004 |
Thanks for those last two sentences in your post 921, Kenneth. Chris Use fully to the best both heart and head and never lose either. | ||
Tat_tvam_asi Member Post Number: 946 Registered: 04-2011 |
Scientists of St. Petersburg University: Apophis to hit Earth in 2068? Scientists of St. Petersburg University have warned that the ominously *) named Apophis asteroid could have hundreds of opportunities to hit Earth over the next centuries. They now think that asteroid Apophis will pass Earth in a distance of 37,600 km **) on April 13, 2029 but warned it may hit Earth in 2068. According to NASA the probability of a collision with the asteroid in 2068 is only 2.3 : 1,000,000 (other estimates using the JPL Sentry risk table say it is 1:150,000) In 2004, when the 330 m asteroid was first discovered, the scientists had warned of a hit in 2029 but later they discarded this danger, as they discarded their prognosis that the asteroid, by flying through a “gravitational keyhole”, would hit Earth in 2036. ------------------------------------------------------ *) According to Egyptian mythology Apep (Greek Apophis) was born after Ra, from Ra’s umbilical cord, as a consequence of Ra’s birth. As Ra pushed him aside to assume his position as sun god (bringer of light and truth) Apep became Ra’s opponent – the god bringing evil, chaos, darkness and destruction. We could see it as an ancient mythical figure of speech conveying the law of contrariness/co-relatedness expressed in nature's phenomena: As one extreme rises, so will the other extreme. **) = Ca. a tenth of the distance Earth-Moon (384,000 km) | ||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 1899 Registered: 07-2005 |
It is truly unfortunate that our earthly scientists are still getting it all wrong when it comes to the Apophis. It is imperative that just as you cannot wash the dishes with dirty hands you cannot measure accurately with a bad ruler. The applicable adage in the case of Apophis is to first get your pi number correct and make sure you figure out what in the heck did Billy mean in the prophecies when he said 'failure to monitor earth from space' when talking about an unbelievable disaster. | ||
Kenneth Member Post Number: 929 Registered: 04-2013 |
Bill, Viewed that as well from the World News report, the Apophis narrative is getting out there. Interesting date of 2068 for an impact? The key-hole is mentioned in this article, but refereed to a "cosmic needle" and no mention of 2036? Based on what we know from Billy and the Plejaren, how could the year 2068 be a factor, unless the attempt by some nation on Earth did not properly push 99942 into deep space? Kenneth | ||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 1900 Registered: 07-2005 |
Hi Kenneth I think the year 2068 is an estimate time for a possible hit by Apophis which was made by scientists at St Petersburg University and not a prophecy by Billy and the Plejaren. So you can deduce how miserably wrong the earth scientists can get things wrong. What we do know for 100% certain is that whatever estimates our scientists make about the trajectory of Apophis they will always be 100% wrong unless they unequivocally state that it is going to hit on April, 2036. So once again we are back to square one and the vast majority of our fellow earthlings are still in the dark about what lies ahead which also applies to just about every scientists who has ever worked on the asteroid deflection and prevention program of some kind with knowledge about Apophis. It's amazing what the ignorance of the right set of information like the correct Pi number could do to a planet dwelling civilization. It could spell the end of it if you don't do your maths properly. Matt lee | ||
Tat_tvam_asi Member Post Number: 947 Registered: 04-2011 |
Matt: 1. Our media is much too quiet on the real topics. That is to say much more trivial matters grab the headlines - the truly important matters are not reported. 2. E.g. there was not one word about the findings of the University of Southampton's finding via a simulation app that - dep. on where 99942 hits Earth - it could cause the death of up to 10 million people. 3. Maybe we should ask H. Lear to send his findings re. Pi to St. Petersburg University / Dept. of Celestial Mechanics (Professor Leonid Solokov) ? Kenneth: You are right - based on what we know from Billy and the Plejaren - any further dates (e.g. 2068) cannot be a factor: - Either Earth scientists work together and find a way to change 99942's path pushing it away from Earth - Or it will hit our planet in 2036 | ||
Cpl Member Post Number: 1037 Registered: 08-2004 |
Again the problem is how to explain to our scientists precisely where their math is wrong, bearing in mind that it calculates out right. I wonder whether everyone here is actually looking in detail at the scientists' calculations for pi that they use. We all know Harry's method, but where is the incorrection within the scientists' method. That is what we need to find and tell them. Scientists dump a finding when it, itself, is proven incorrect, not when someone just presents a different finding. Chris Use fully to the best both heart and head and never lose either. |
