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Newinitiation
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Post Number: 1901
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, January 20, 2019 - 12:59 pm: | 
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Hi Bill
Well Bill we all know why the MSM is the way it is It's just a symptom and consequence of ignorance of the Creative natural laws and recommendations.
If we get inside the mindset of the so called elites, being the sociopaths and psychopaths that they are, why wouldn't you want to control the media if you had the means to do so to keep the so called useless eaters dumbed down, stupid, mute and ignorant especially regarding social, scientific and political matters so that you can hoard vital knowledge and information to maintain your power and control over them but also to steer the course of events and people's actions according to your world view and will.
Why wouldn't they see Apophis as a perfect opportunity to use it as a tool for genocide seeing as they too know and understand how grave a problem overpopulation is.
Why wouldn't they suppress the truth about the real threat Apophis poses to then letting it happen from the safety of their underground cities and emerge from the ashes to build a new world with millions of the useless eaters gone.
Why would they, if they had the chance, let a perfect crisis go to waste when a new world can emerge from from a thousand points of light.
It'll represent a crimeless victimisation where no weapons and intrigues need be used.
Plus they can take out the Russians who they hate so deeply.
Matt lee |
Newinitiation
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Post Number: 1902
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, January 20, 2019 - 04:16 pm: |
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Another thing Bill
We all know that this forum and various other websites and blogs dedicated to Billy is being monitored closely by various secret service and groups.
What is also a fact is that the subject and topic regarding Apophis has been discussed on numerous occasions here over the course of 2 decades with the revelation of the correct Pi number by Harry Lear floating around for a number of years already.
So it is inconceivable that the correct Pi number has not been taken seriously by the secret groups monitoring this forum to do their own calculation and crunching a few numbers to get the real trajectory and impact point and date of Apophis given by Billy and the Plejaren which they would also be clearly aware of.
The problem is it hasn't reached the mainstream and it must've been deliberately done.
So it'll take the Chinese and the Russian to circumvent this machinations by the western group within a group to reveal the true extent of the danger posed by Apophis and thereby spearhead a deflection program with or without the international or US partners.
Matt lee |
Tat_tvam_asi
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Post Number: 949
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Monday, January 21, 2019 - 05:18 am: |
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Re. “Would scientists use Pi to calculate the trajectory of an asteroid?”
Hi Chris,
I am not a scientist – so I can answer your question only from what I read on the net.
It may be wrong.
1. It seems obvious that the gravity between Earth and the asteroid is an essential variable.
Our Earth is a massive body and as such it creates a “gravitational field” i.e. a force which produces in the space around itself a force on any body entering this space.
2. According to Newton’s law of universal gravitation the attractive force between 2 bodies is directly proportional to the product of their masses (m1 and m2) and inversely proportional to the square of the distance (d) between them
F= G x m1 x m2/d x d
3. The constant proportionality (big) “G” is Newton’s gravitational constant *)
4. To calculate the gravitational field of the Earth (little) “g” we would usually multiply the mass of Earth (M) with “G” and divide it by the square of Earth’s radius: g = GM/r x r
5. In the Einstein field equation of general relativity R- ˝ x R x g = 8 Pi x G x T / c x c x c x c Newton’s constant appears in the proportionality between the spacetime curvature and the energy density component of the stress-energy tensor. The scaled gravitational constant or Einstein constant is
K = 8Pi x G / c x c x c x c
In a nutshell:
Scientists calculating the trajectory of the asteroid would consider the gravitational force of Earth. If they use the Einstein field equation of general relativity (Einstein’s constant) they would use "8 times Pi" in their calculation.
If they did, they would come to a different result than using the conventional Pi.
My conclusion:
Only scientists calculating the trajectory of the asteroid would know whether they use - directly or indirectly - the number Pi.
But to tell them that the conventional Pi is not correct will be beneficial for them in any case: Even if they do not use it for calculating the asteroid's trajectory they may use it at a later stage for some of their other important calculations.
So I truly think it is of good value that mathematician Harry Lear contacts Prof. Leonid Solonov (University of St. Petersburg). I think his short message will be well received.
IT MAY AS WELL SPARE THE LIVES OF MORE THAN 10 MILLION PEOPLE.
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*) To measure this very weak gravitational constant accurately is very difficult:
- It is but one of the many uncertainties when calculating the trajectory of an asteroid.
- The asteroid's path is as well affected by the gravity of other celestial bodies before it enters the space in which Earth gravity is active
- Scientist may use an asteroids pulling = "bending force" on a fly-by spacecraft to measure the asteroid's gravitational "tug" (and calculate from it its mass). But its true composure/mass) at the critical time may not be fully known as it may have lost some of its orbital mass during its flight. The calculation of an asteroid's gravitational forces is therefore more an estimate than a certainty. |
Cpl
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Post Number: 1038
Registered: 08-2004
| | Posted on Monday, January 21, 2019 - 08:36 am: |
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Hi Bill,
I certainly agree with Harry's efforts to inform any others of his findings. I was just commenting that we should try to inform the scientists what is wrong with their calculations as this would have the biggest and most notable effect of getting them to look anew at pi, and hence seriously consider Harry's work.
Also, just because they may read Billy's material it doesn't necessarily follow that they will accept or follow it, especially if they are not shown where their pi calculations go wrong.
Chris
Use fully to the best both heart and head and never lose either.
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Kenneth
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Post Number: 930
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Monday, January 21, 2019 - 12:50 pm: |
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Newinitiation (Bill),
You bring up some very good points that has also crossed my mind, and maybe other forum members as well? That could very well be one of their options? “Why wouldn't they see Apophis as a perfect opportunity to use it as a tool for genocide…”
Nonetheless, when the magnitude of this potential asteroid strike event is studied along with the many ramifications associated with the 99942 impact including the worldwide radioactive dust cloud along with the collapse of the infrastructure including the food chain. It does not appear to be a wise move on the elite’s part. The so called sociopaths and psychopaths are cunning and intelligent.
Allowing Apophis to impact Earth would take the control out of their hands; hundreds of millions of human deaths and the demises of land animals and aquatic craniate animals of various categories and other life forms could create an unfathomable circumstance? It could be several generations before the elites (Morlocks) could safely crawl out of their holes.
We on the Apophis Team will not take credit for any scientists that use the correct Pi of 3.144605511; we have stated as such in the packages and letters that were sent to various scientists, government officials etc. It’s very possible that NASA, JPL and maybe others now in the know are covertly using the correct Pi calculation. I would never expect NASA and any other agency to admit that they have been using the wrong calculations?
Kenneth |
Kenneth
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Post Number: 931
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Monday, January 21, 2019 - 02:46 pm: |
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Oops; apologize Matt, didn’t mean to confuse your name with Bill’s name. |
Kenneth
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Post Number: 932
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Monday, January 21, 2019 - 10:04 pm: |
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It’s apparent that extraterrestrial visitors to Earth used the correct Pi formulas needed for space travel, dimension transitions, NULL travel etc. It would appear that we Earthlings are just re-learning it again, so to say. As a side note, if it was not for the Plejaren and the “Red Meteor” aka 99942 Apophis, it may have been many more generations before Earthlings understood the true values of Pi? Which is desperately needed for our evolution into the beyond. We appear to be on the fast track for a reason!?
To be accurate, it appears that the Pi calculation value has changed a few times throughout the centuries and with different cultures as well. None of these Pi formulas would give us the correct trajectory of Apophis either.
"Pi has been known for approximately 4,000 years. The ancient Babylonians calculated the area of a circle by taking 3 times the square of its radius, which gave a value of pi = 3. One Babylonian tablet (ca. 1900–1680 BC) indicates a value of 3.125 for Pi APPROXIMATION.
The Rhind Papyrus (ca.1650 BC) gives us insight into the mathematics of ancient Egypt. The Egyptians calculated the area of a circle by a formula that gave the APPROXIMATE value of 3.1605 for Pi.
The calculation of Pi was also done by Archimedes of Syracuse (287–212 BC), one of the greatest mathematicians of the ancient world. Archimedes approximated the area of a circle by using the Pythagorean Theorem to find the areas of two regular polygons: It’s interesting to note that even Archimedes knew that he had not found the true value of Pi but only an APPROXIMATION within those limits.
Similarly, Zu Chongzhi (429–501), a brilliant Chinese mathematician and astronomer calculated the value of the ratio of the circumference of a circle to its diameter. To compute this accuracy for Pi, he apparently started with an inscribed regular 24,576-gon and performed lengthy calculations involving hundreds of square roots carried out to 9 decimal places.
Mathematicians began using the Greek letter for Pi in the 1700's. Even an eighteenth-century French mathematician, Georges Buffon devised a way to calculate Pi based on probability.
It would appear that the Plejaren and maybe Billy were very instrumental in helping with some mental suggestions (impulses) for scientists/mathematician’s to get the Pi formula correct? This learning curve was done for a very explicit reason. We'll know is about 10 years if our science community got it correct; other wise we'll be starting all over again!
Kenneth
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Cpl
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Post Number: 1039
Registered: 08-2004
| | Posted on Monday, January 21, 2019 - 10:33 pm: |
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Thanks for your answer, Bill. We should also remember that no elite or even government would ever tell us that Apophis is on an impact course unless we do something about it. That was the lie in the movie Deep Impact. Governments fear any such announcement would create immediate chaos, economic collapse, and social mayhem just for starters. On the one hand they want to instill fear in the populace so they can direct the fearful where they want them, while on the other they only want fear that they can handle. They don't want the public demanding they do what they cannot do. That makes them look ineffective and useless which is not an image they want.
I have long thought that they may be holding back because in their inhumanity they want Apophis to hit and take out Russia, as well as Europe. Apophis landing in Europe would mean a lot of the 400 degree C ejecta, as it re-enters the atmosphere, would fall near if not over Moscow. They -- and we -- know this from just tweaking previous models that have already been shown on TV.
Chris
Use fully to the best both heart and head and never lose either.
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Kenneth
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Post Number: 933
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 22, 2019 - 10:13 am: |
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Tat_tvam_asi posted an excellent article on the Pleiadians/Plejarens and the Federation: Contact Notes site, regarding Special Bulletin Number: 49; Dated August, 2009, Author: Billy Meier
Concerning an excerpt directed at Climate Change and outer space:
“These changes have as well an effect on outer space: New gravity waves will be forming which rush out into outer space with great speed and create “an outer space gravitational tsunami...”
It’s my understanding that Earth scientists do not currently understand these gravitational waves being sent into outer space due to Earth’s climate change. My point is that these gravitational waves must have some kind of an effect on 99942 Apophis as well? In other words, correcting the Pi calculation in the scientific community to 3.144605511… is of course absolutely needed. There could possibly be an added issue with the 99942 asteroid calculations that are affected by this gravitational tsunami?
CR 476 in Special Bulletin 49:
www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/FIGU_Special_Bulletin_49
Kenneth
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Cpl
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Post Number: 1040
Registered: 08-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 22, 2019 - 07:32 pm: |
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Thanks for this, Kenneth.
Chris
Use fully to the best both heart and head and never lose either.
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Tat_tvam_asi
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Post Number: 951
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Tuesday, January 22, 2019 - 08:38 pm: |
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Excellent, Kenneth - it may well be the missing puzzle piece.
Bill |
Newinitiation
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Post Number: 1903
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 23, 2019 - 11:22 pm: |
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No worries Bill
I think you've outlined very reasonable rationale and I guess those points can only come from a very intelligent, logical and rational person.
I cannot attribute the same for the psychopathic and sociopathic elites where anything goes for these desperate vultures and hyenas so obsessed with power and world control that I not only think that they don't really give a hoots but they will do anything to keep power.
If Billy said that there is a considerable chance that the elites will use biological warfare on the masses to wipe out vast section of the population when the overpopulation problem becomes untenable I cannot imagine that they won't use Apophis as a great opportunity to achieve their goals as both achieves the same thing only the method is different.
I wouldn't put anything past them.
Their DUMB facilities are state of the art and tens of thousands can survive under there for years.
They grow their own crop and it's invitation only.
So why would they care what happens on the surface as long as they have everything underground to wait it out.
The Apophis will not be the end of the world nor will it be an extinction event.
Muan's asteroid impact I believe was much more powerful and we survived it so 350m rock isn't going to be as bad I think.
Matt lee |
Newinitiation
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Post Number: 1907
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, January 27, 2019 - 02:11 pm: |
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I think that if Harry Lear sent his calculation of the trajectory and impact point and date of Apophis to JPL, NASA, Chinese space agency, European space agency, Japanese space agency, Russian space agency, Space X, Northrup Gruman, Boeing, Honeywell, the pentagon, white house, julian assange's wikileaks, intercept and so on maybe some might just pay attention to report it.
Matt lee |
Kenneth
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Post Number: 933
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Sunday, January 27, 2019 - 09:52 pm: |
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Hi Matt,
Actually Harry Lear and the Apophis Team has sent what we call a ‘Package’ (mathematical calculations, diagrams, website links, contact information and more) to JPL, NASA, Space-X, Pentagon, The Trump Administration and maybe the Obama Administration as well. This information was also sent to several major universities and other notable institutions, news outlets etc.
Regarding sending packages to Russia, China, Julian Assange or other foreign governments would pretty much kill our Apophis (A-Team) project. U.S. citizens contacting foreign government’s etcetera regarding this situation would not be a good move, according to Mr. Lear. FYI, Harry Lear was also, Assistant Chief of Staff Intelligence in the Pentagon, retired. He obviously knows what he is doing.
Salome
Kenneth |
Newinitiation
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Post Number: 1908
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, January 27, 2019 - 10:31 pm: |
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That's fantastic Kenneth
A job well done
The seed has been sown which will be reaped in abundance much later.
Matt lee |
Marbar
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Post Number: 311
Registered: 12-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, February 07, 2019 - 06:07 am: |
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About a week ago, I was watching a stream on Twitch and decided to start a conservation about Apophis. Two people responded and one person whispered me to ask where I got the information from. The person said I was lost or something and calling Billy a liar. The person who said that is part of a Facebook called Doomsday Debunked.
I'm wandering if I did the right thing about trying to star a conservation about Apophis?
If anyone wants to know about that conservation I had with that guy from that group reply back to this post. |
Kenneth
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Post Number: 944
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Friday, February 22, 2019 - 07:55 pm: |
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Marbar,
You did no wrong in starting a conversation regarding the 99942 Apophis asteroid situation. I and many others start similar conversations with others not in the know; that is how the truth is revealed.
People in these Doomsdday and similar organizations have already made up their minds on this issue; if the information does not fit their preconceived belief system, they classify it as fake news.
My response to these lost ones is, "What personal investigations have you done?" Most of the time, these people are following someone else's drumbeat, so to say, without doing any research on their part.
When confronting anyone not familiar with the 99942 Apophis information, directing them to the 99942 Apophis (NASA) website and to Harry Lear's website on the mathematical Pi correction and explain what the delta (difference) is on a 0.003...Pi calculation will make in a distance of 9-million miles (14,484,096 kilometers). I usually get a jaw dropping expression; the conversation usually continues from there...
Kenneth |
Msmichelle
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Post Number: 488
Registered: 02-2010
| | Posted on Saturday, February 23, 2019 - 08:12 am: |
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Marie, you are at an age where you'll be knocked off your feet because you're witnessing something wonderful-BEAM in the age of distraction, ignorance, etc. You'll walk away shaking your head in disbelief, however, as Kenneth says, continue to have open dialogue with people, it's actually a great way to further increase your knowledge and wisdom
MsMichelle
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Marbar
Member
Post Number: 312
Registered: 12-2009
| | Posted on Sunday, February 24, 2019 - 06:37 pm: |
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Kenneth & Msmichelle, that guy was saying in his FaceBook post that I was trying to spread panic. I wanted to talk to the guy some other time, I left the stream and it seems like he want to explain something to me.
He has not appeared on Twitch after that. |
Kenneth
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Post Number: 945
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Monday, February 25, 2019 - 12:54 pm: |
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Marbar,
Well, if Earthlings with the means (scientists, NASA, JPL etc.) do not get their act together; panic will spread in about 8 years when humanity realizes that in two years it may be all over for them and their descendants. It will then be too late to react to the Plejaren Asteroid warnings that were ignored.
The only saving possibility is IF, 99942 Apophis does in fact miss Earth in 2029? Will it be possible for Earthly science to react in only a couple of years before certain impact in 2036?
Kenneth |
Eddieamartin
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Post Number: 972
Registered: 08-2010
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 26, 2019 - 06:49 am: |
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Regarding Apophis,
NASA did make an announcement a few months ago where they publicly explained that they had concluded that the best method to divert the asteroid was to explode a nuclear bomb near enough to it without breaking it up.
Reminded me of Quetzal's very words and explanations. They also said because the solution requires the use of a nuclear bomb, that there were channels that need going through because it is not a simple thing to send a nuclear bomb into space.
But they already know and have the solution.
Salome,
Eddie
In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says:
Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3)
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Kenneth
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Post Number: 946
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 26, 2019 - 09:30 pm: |
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Back in January of this year (post 933) we talked about Gravitational Waves. Just read a report where NASA is just now beginning to understand this phenomenon?
"Gravitational Waves Could Solve Hubble Constant Conundrum. Analyzing ripples in the fabric of space and time created by pairs of dead stars may soon solve a cosmic mystery surrounding how quickly the universe is expanding — if scientists are lucky"
Nonetheless, it still appears that NASA scientists do not yet understand that gravitational waves are generated on Earth as well. "...gravitational waves being sent into outer space due to Earth's climate change...//... these gravitational waves must have some kind of an effect on 99942 Apophis as well..."
Kenneth
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Newinitiation
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Post Number: 1933
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, February 27, 2019 - 04:50 pm: |
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Nonetheless, it still appears that NASA scientists do not yet understand that gravitational waves are generated on Earth as well. "...gravitational waves being sent into outer space due to Earth's climate change...//... these gravitational waves must have some kind of an effect on 99942 Apophis as well..."
Good point Kenneth
I think it'll take us several more hundred years before we can calculate precisely how to measure right down to the nano second and nano meter the gravitational waves and to quantify in the most accurate terms and figures about gravitons and its effects on foreign bodies like the Apophis.
If gravitational waves travel at a speed of light and has been travelling into outer space as long as the age of the earth it must have a ripple effect on any extra solar bodies extending out to some 646 billion light years give or take.
The closer the foreign bodies are to earth the greater the tug and push force it'll have on it.
In conjunction with this we must also factor in other solar bodies within the vicinity of earth which will also tug and push the foreign body that comes within its influence.
In addition to this there exists also the ripple effect of our sun and our twin sun which will also have a tug and push effect generated by its own gravitational waves.
On top of this there is also supernovas that have recently exploded that also has influence on our solar bodies within our solar system.
And as you stated the man induced climate change and global warming effect on earth that has inexorably changed the rate of gravitational waves generated by earth would also have an effect on Apophis that all adds up to what to us is a chaotic multitudinal factors as yet unquantifiable influencing the sequence of events that ultimately has preprogrammed certain outcome to undeniably happen to the dot.
And all this only the Plejaren could've calculated down to the last dot and not earthlings ourselves.
I am stratching my head wondering how smart were the muans who have set up this dead man's switch as a fail safe mechanism to precise position and then put apophis on the path of collision with earth at a precise date in the future to get the job done on Atlantis if for some reason the first attempt failed.
Iam still scratching my head
Matt lee |
