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Hugo
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Post Number: 628
Registered: 04-2015
| | Posted on Saturday, March 09, 2019 - 09:23 pm: | 
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Scott, can you please link me to where this latest information in the CR saying the latest Rayguard does not work because I too bought one and would like to know whether I am wasting my time wearing it round my neck all the time. I was aware the Plejaren tested the really old one that did not work. Is that what you are talking about? |
Michael_horn
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Post Number: 1382
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Saturday, March 09, 2019 - 09:23 pm: |
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Here is a fuller explanation pertaining to the RayGuard.
In about 2004, I was at the center and I was wearing a device I’d bought in San Francisco that was said to be effective against all these various frequencies, etc. (I actually bought two of them.) A former CG member saw it and told me that they liked the look of my device, as it was smaller and more jewelry like than the RayGuard that they had.
We agreed to switch with each other. Later, in our correspondence, I asked them to ask Billy if the Plejaren would also test the one I’d traded them, as they had told me that the Plejaren had said the RG devices actually worked. Many CG members had them and Billy even had a desk top model. Billy did ask the Plejaren, and supposedly Quetzal tested it and said that the device I had bought had…NO intrinsic value in terms of protecting from frequencies and only worked because of a placebo effect and any “belief” I had in it, etc.
I ended up getting several RG devices over the years, for myself and family members, and I still wore my remaining pendant because I liked it.
When the recent test results came back from the Plejaren, I discussed the situation with Karrol. I questioned whether it was better to tell people it didn’t work OR to wait until someone asked and then tell them. In other words, I wondered if ANY benefits people were getting as a result of their own might of their thoughts, “beliefs”, etc., should be negated, or if the devices should simply not be sold anymore and only those who inquired would be told the results of the Plejaren tests, which in time, of course, would become more widely known.
Karrol and I posed the question/idea to Christian who agreed that it wasn’t necessary to just openly volunteer the information. So, while Karrol and I were among those who learned it sooner - along with many of the CG members - and thereby experienced the let down (and loss of our money) it was determined to be better to not interfere with those who were empowering the devices for themselves so that they could get their self-created benefits for as long as possible. |
Eddieamartin
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Post Number: 976
Registered: 08-2010
| | Posted on Sunday, March 10, 2019 - 08:58 am: |
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Regarding the RayGuard device.
I've wondered if we are missing the point and the lesson.
I'm referring to the knowledge and cognizance regarding the power and abilities of the consciousness through the might of the thoughts.
Anyone versed in the invaluable information contained in the Goblet of the Truth has gained cognizance regarding the power and abilities of our consciousness.
It is not the pendant that has the power, but the consciousness. The pendant serves only as a form of (reaching?) /( triggering?) the power of the consciousness through the might of our thoughts.
A man was stranded in a boat out in the ocean for a week. He survived by eating fish and ....drinking fresh water from the side of the boat. What he described, as how he acquired the fresh water, is clearly explained in the Goblet of the Truth.
A doctor prescribed to his friend a medication he learned about. His friend began to heal from it. Later the doctor learned that the reports had been found to contain errors and that the medicine did not serve the particular illness. After telling his friend the news and his friend no longer taking the medicine after so much progress, the illness began to return. Fascinated, the doctor lied to his friend and told him he had made a mistake and prescribed the medicine again. His friend began to heal from the illness.
Long story short, one can find many examples of the power and abilities of the consciousness.
Billy gave an excellent explanation regarding the power and ability of the consciousness in a work regarding the placebo and nocebo effects.
I personally have used the consciousness when visiting the dentist so that now I no longer feel the needle.
There is a creational recommendation that advices that we should learn and grow in the knowledge of the consciousness and then use its power and abilities for all manner of good, including the healing of harms of/to the body.
Salome,
Eddie
In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says:
Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3)
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Joe
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Post Number: 555
Registered: 11-2008
| | Posted on Sunday, March 10, 2019 - 10:34 am: |
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So this begs the question: Those who make the RayGuard products, do they know that they actually don't work as advertised or are they also misled into thinking that their products really and truly work? |
Hugo
Member
Post Number: 629
Registered: 04-2015
| | Posted on Sunday, March 10, 2019 - 11:09 am: |
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MH, so is the latest 5G Rayguard no better then the old one tested?
If it is not in the notes then can I please hear the rough story/analysis of what the Plejaren said about it? |
Scott
Moderator
Post Number: 2887
Registered: 12-1999
| | Posted on Sunday, March 10, 2019 - 02:10 pm: |
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This section is not about the authenticity of the Ray Guard device. The information has been presented I don't know what more can be said about it? |
Kenneth
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Post Number: 955
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Sunday, March 10, 2019 - 04:46 pm: |
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Eddieamartin, Michael Horn,
You bring up some excellent information and knowledge about the human consciousness through the might of the thoughts and a reminder on how we humans can actually control our own environment through our thoughts. Lesson well learned,
Kenneth |
Newinitiation
Member
Post Number: 1945
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, March 10, 2019 - 10:08 pm: |
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Kenneth in practical terms since you have the expert knowledge in these matters what else can you use to shield yourself from ELF without relying on some crude faraday cage or the plecebo effect.
Have you perhaps experimented on exotic crystals or quartz or certain type of granite that all the pyramids around the world is made up of that don't contain metallic substance which could acts as an absorber and disperser of ELF that does an equally good job as a faraday cage that you may know of that everyone can use to shield themselves from this toxic non ionizing radiation that everyone is bombarded with?
Matt lee |
Kenneth
Member
Post Number: 956
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Monday, March 11, 2019 - 10:01 am: |
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Matt,
Good question; “…what else can you use to shield yourself from ELF…” This can be a very deep and complicated subject; nonetheless, will keep it basic.
To be clear, in our environment, ELF (Extremely Low Frequency) is the ITU’s (International Telecommunications Union) designation for Electro-Magnetic Radiation (EMR), in other words, radio waves.
We can have an electric field without a current; however, if there is a current, the Electro Magnetic Field will vary in how much power is generated or used. For instance, in your home, apartment, et-cetera, there is all kinds of wiring and various circuits and appliances charged with an electrical voltage, which for the most part, remains constant; the more power used, the larger (more powerful) the EMF/EMR/ELF.
To protect oneself, we first must understand that ELF wave frequencies of alternating current flowing in electric power grids, 50 or 60 Hz, also falls within the ELF band, making power grids an unintentional source of ELF radiation. Wherever you are in the environment, stay away from high power lines and large transformers if at all possible.
High-power, extremely-low-frequency (Radio Waves) with electric field levels in the low range are known to induce discernible currents within the human body that create an annoying tingling sensation perceived by the human mind or senses. Ostensibly, Electro-Magnetic Radiation, contributes to a person’s toxic body burden; wireless radiation pokes holes in the protective barrier of the human body and brain, causing more toxic compounds to be absorbed. The healthier life style, the better; in other words, good food/nutrition, water, air, sleep, exercise, etc. help against today’s environmental burden of EMF/EMR/ELF radiation. It’s also recommended to shut down your wireless router during sleep.
A GROUNDED metallic screen (whatever size determined necessary) installed between oneself and a communications tower, high voltage lines, large transformers, etc. could be beneficial.
A person could conceivably wrap their entire house in a Faraday Cage, but then, no wireless devices needing outside signals will work.
There is no one solution to correct Earth humans hazardous ELF technological issues until we Earthlings understand the Environments finer characteristics, as the Plejaren have mastered.
Hope that helps
Salome
Kenneth
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Hugo
Member
Post Number: 630
Registered: 04-2015
| | Posted on Monday, March 11, 2019 - 10:12 pm: |
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Kenneth,
I live directly beside high voltage power lines that supply power to Melbourne. I sleep like 40 meters away from them. I bought a $300 Trifield RF/EMF reader so I can monitor the magnetic radiation from them. It fluctuates from the lowest of 1.2 to highest of 3.5 depending on the day. According to World Health Organization anything above 1 is supposed to be harmful. I doubt a whole house wrap in a faraday cage could work because I looked online and found there is nothing to protect a house from living next to high voltage power lines. The radiation would just come through the windows so faraday cage for a house would not work. If you have any suggestions other then a faraday cage I would appreciate it. |
Newinitiation
Member
Post Number: 1946
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Monday, March 11, 2019 - 10:26 pm: |
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Thanks for the information Kenneth.
I should rephrase my question by asking if you know anything concrete and tangible that a person can purchase from a store or online comparable to the Rayguard but one that actually works at the material level and not via the plecibo effect.
Is there anything out there like a piece galena (PbS), anglesite (PbSO4), cerussite (PbCO3) and minum (Pb3O4) ore that one could carry around that repels ELF that you may know of through the research and proper studies that you have done during your career?.
Matt lee |
Justsayno
Member
Post Number: 836
Registered: 10-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 12, 2019 - 03:22 pm: |
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Hi Matt about 13 years ago I used to unsuccessfully sell the Gia cell guard chip lol. My friend and I had the exact same cell phone and we did a double blind muscle stress test and determined the one that had the chip on was better than the one without. I wish Billy could get these tested.
Also Kyanite supposedly reduces negativity and radiation from electronic devices and salt lamps increase positive ions.
Good, better, best. May you never rest, until your good is better, and your better best.
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Justsayno
Member
Post Number: 837
Registered: 10-2009
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 12, 2019 - 03:26 pm: |
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Correction: salt lamps increase negative ions to counteract positive ions from electromagnetics.
Good, better, best. May you never rest, until your good is better, and your better best.
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Kenneth
Member
Post Number: 956
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 12, 2019 - 11:54 pm: |
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Hugo,
Regarding your environment; if you live in the near vicinity of high voltage power lines, you are probably talking about 66 kV (66,000 volts) to 756,000 volts, or something in that range. I know of nothing that can protect someone from that kind of power and electromagnetic force (EMF) fields, other than distance?
The electric companies of course have statistics that theoretically prove that your environment is safe and does not cause any problems? That’s for you to determine?
Nonetheless, in the older automobiles with analog radios, there was a reason why your radios picked up a lot of static when near the high power lines and electromagnetic force fields. In my opinion, if the EMF effects radio signals, it also have an effect on the human body.
You may be interested in an article by Brodeur, Paul; The Great Power-Line Coverup, cancer hazards posed by electromagnetic fields. Boston: Little Brown, 1993: 20.
Kenneth |
Kenneth
Member
Post Number: 957
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 13, 2019 - 12:02 am: |
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Matt,
Sorry my friend, I know of nothing, concrete and tangible that a person can purchase from a store or online that will protect your environment from very high EMF radiation.
Salome
Kenneth |
Michael_horn
Member
Post Number: 1384
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 13, 2019 - 09:53 am: |
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https://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2019/03/12/school-cell-tower-causing-cancer/
Hi Michael, Just a reminder to please post FIGU links only Thanks Scott
(Message edited by scott on March 13, 2019) |
Newinitiation
Member
Post Number: 1947
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 13, 2019 - 09:58 pm: |
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Wow Sheila it sounds like you've lived an unsuccessfully successful life or was it the other way around.
Just kidding of course hehe.
Anyway its still a mystery as to what actually works to shield, repel, guard against and repel EMR, EMP, ELFW and EMW that everyone can easily access that is unequivocally proven to work that you could carry around.
Anyway I'll check out what Kyanite is.
Cheers
Matt lee |
Newinitiation
Member
Post Number: 1948
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 13, 2019 - 10:08 pm: |
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No worries Kenneth
I am just imagining but if we had the belt buckle device that Asket and billy wore when they went inside the pyramids I guarantee that it would definitely work.
I wonder if the Timars do any extraterrestrial DHL service preferably an express post via Timarzon.com.
Matt lee |
Justsayno
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Post Number: 839
Registered: 10-2009
| | Posted on Monday, March 25, 2019 - 06:15 am: |
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Hi Matt, no it was more like, I'm not a salesperson. Not that I doubted it worked, just that people don't like to think about unseen harmful effects of radiation, as they put their cell phones back into their pockets. I also put my cell phone in the microwave (not turning on the microwave) but phoning it to see if it rang. It did. For some reason I thought the microwave was so tightly sealed that nothing could get through. Anyways the microwave died a few days after that. Even though I suck at sales I have a microwave free home. 
Good, better, best. May you never rest, until your good is better, and your better best.
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Newinitiation
Member
Post Number: 1951
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Monday, March 25, 2019 - 10:37 pm: |
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Even though I suck at sales I have a microwave free home. :-)
Hehe so Sheila is this a sales call for a free home with a broken microwave
I'll take it if you don't like microwave free homes.
I am beginning to like Canada very very much ;-)
Gee on a serious note what prompted you to put your phone inside a microwave.
Did one of your whacky friends suggest this experiment or were you very hungry.
The whackiest length I've gone was putting my smart phone inside an aluminum pot with my phone wrapped in aluminum foil.
It worked when I rang my own phone.
I thought about putting a cat in a microwave.
Just kidding.
Haha
Matt lee |
Bianca
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Post Number: 148
Registered: 03-2009
| | Posted on Friday, March 29, 2019 - 07:37 pm: |
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Kenneth,
Are you able to explain if and how copper protects the human body? I only know that in many hospitals they use medical tools made from copper as well as handles on many medical devices, also door handles, etc.
At the Figu centre, the roof gutters are made of copper, do you know why would that be?
I have a GIA chip and other devices I use as a protection for my phone and home. The inventor is a russian physicist named I. Smirnov. As I understand he invented these devices for the US pilots, so maybe its good for my protection also?
I had a rayguard chip and pulled it apart, because I was curious to see what is inside it.
Bianca}
…Everything is in One, and One is in all, and everything is there in this infinite Creation for every single being, and the single being is there for the whole extensive All.
OM
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Cpl
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Post Number: 1058
Registered: 08-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, March 30, 2019 - 07:11 am: |
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Hi Bianca,
Copper destroys over 99.9% of all E. Coli 0157 bacteria on its surface in just a couple of hours. It is an excellent antibacterial and vastly superior to stainless steel in this respect. I presume this is why it is used in hospitals. Also door handles are a very common and dangerous source for spreading bacteria from one person's hand to another, so it makes sense to have copper doorhandles to prevent bad bacteria from sick patients in a hospital spreading to healthy people, doctors, and nurses.
Copper is useful in construction because it does not rust and has a long lifespan. Significant buildings intended to survive for generations often have a copper roof or roofing which turns light green with age. It makes sense to me that Figu use this for their gutters because gutters receive heavy treatment with all roof run off water which often accumulates causing oxidation and rusting which in turn can necessitate frequent maintenance, repairs or replacement. So I see it as a wise move by Figu to have copper gutters. They should last far longer than if made of other materials, and if in the hard times coming maintenance is difficult or unavailable the money spent now will be seen as wisely spent.
Copper is more expensive than other materials which is why we do not see it used so often.
Chris
Use fully to the best both heart and head and never lose either.
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Kenneth
Member
Post Number: 960
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Saturday, March 30, 2019 - 09:17 am: |
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Hi Bianca,
That’s a good question. A little background info; at one time the idea of being a holistic health practitioner was also a goal for 3 years of intensive study, consequently, learning much about the human body was necessary, while simultaneously studying electrical and mechanical engineering relating to the aerospace industry. Later in life, my path lead to primarily the aerospace commerce; interestingly, what was learned about the human body helped with awareness and consciousness development in this endeavor as well.
Your question, “…how copper protects the human body?” In our environment, the human body uses copper as an important essential micronutrient. Copper deficiency can lead to problems with connective tissue, muscle weakness, anemia, low white blood cell count, neurological problems, etc. Too much copper can be toxic which can interfere with how the human body absorbs zinc and iron. Wearing of copper jewelry is not recommended.
To my knowledge, “medical tools made from copper” was discontinued some time ago. Today, without getting into too much detail, most medical instruments are made with martensitic and/or austenitic stainless steel alloys, using combinations of iron, chromium, carbon, nickel, manganese and nitrogen.
“…roof gutters are made of copper”, this is what most early roof gutters were made of as copper is malleable (pliable, hammered or pressed) into shape which also provided ease of installation and repairs, it also looks very nice and lasts a long time. Earth’s environment eventually oxidized copper to a green shade which is actually a natural environmental protective coating.
“…copper…//…also door handles”. Many early door handles, hinges, latches etc. were made of copper due to ease in manufacture and installation; this has evolved into anodized brass and other materials due to today’s cost of copper. To my knowledge, copper tools, gutters or other copper devices do not have an intrinsic effect on a human beings environment, other than the transmission of electricity, in numerous methods and systems.
Hope that helps
Sincerely
Salome
Kenneth |
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