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Newinitiation
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Post Number: 1987
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 01, 2019 - 12:28 am: | 
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Thanks Chris for the words of encouragement.
Wow they actually knew as far back as the 70's that milk was bad for health?! Its amazing what these government insider don't share with the general public.
I think we should thank the women for their maturity and the natural wisdom that just naturally flows out of them that I don't think we males could match.
We males are afterall also begotten from a women's womb so their negative polarity definitely holds sway.
As they say behind every successful man there is a woman and those men who succeed in life (in materialistic terms) and become prominent may have learnt earlier on to never ignore the wise counsel of a women as you can't go wrong there.
Now that society has drastically changed for the betterment of the women although alot is still left wanting women are now the people who wear the pants and have more influence over men than ever before.
Not all obviously as it also depends on the maturity and consciousness level of the men as to whether they are going to listen to their women but the private bedroom talk cannot be underestimated as even nations fell or rose because the influence women held over their men.
I remember talking to the wife of the Korean equivalent of the US CIA director about various things over dinner and they looked like a couple that deeply respected each other and that she held her own.
So my point is that we shouldn't underestimate this possible and often neglected source for possibly spreading the teachings.
Cheers
Matt lee |
Cpl
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Post Number: 1076
Registered: 08-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 01, 2019 - 05:52 am: |
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They certainly did know about milk back then, Matt. I was told personally that scientists presented the US government with the knowledge and requested the government to make it public knowledge. The government, however, said that the dairy industry was just too important to the US economy to do that. So they didn't act on the information. Note, that I was told in the mid 70s, so the government knew before then. I do not know when they first knew.
Chris
Use fully to the best both heart and head and never lose either.
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Cpl
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Post Number: 1081
Registered: 08-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 01, 2019 - 07:09 pm: |
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Taken from today at space.com are two reasons perhaps why our scientists do not see their calculation errors relate to their error in pi: Earth's gravitational pull on Apophis making it difficult to predict exactly and; the Yarkovsky effect, or the ability of the sun's radiation to nudge Apophis off course.
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A key topic of interest is the degree to which Earth's gravitational pull may distort Apophis during the 2029 close approach. Some scientists believe that previous flybys would have also stretched the space rock, and that other asteroids could be similarly affected during their own close approaches.
One question that asteroid scientists have that is also vital for planetary defense experts is the extent to which the sun's radiation nudges Apophis' orbit. That phenomenon, called the Yarkovsky effect, results from the temperature differential between the day and night sides of the asteroid.
[Quoting ends.]
They obviously do not have accurate readings.
Chris
Use fully to the best both heart and head and never lose either.
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Tat_tvam_asi
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Post Number: 995
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 01, 2019 - 07:28 pm: |
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From todays - "a little bit true" - headline news:
“God of Chaos” (Apophis) asteroid will come unnervingly close in 2019 … NASA says it will fly by just 19,000 miles from Earth… but the chances of a collision are "very slim" (2.7 %) |
Cpl
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Post Number: 1082
Registered: 08-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 01, 2019 - 09:03 pm: |
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Well, Bill, that 2.7% chance of an impact is many orders of magnitude larger than their previous estimate/calculation. Moreover, with Billy and the Plejaren prepared to possibly end their time on Earth in 2029 this is NOT looking good. 2019-2029: Has the countdown from 10 begun?
Chris
Use fully to the best both heart and head and never lose either.
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Tat_tvam_asi
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Post Number: 996
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Thursday, May 02, 2019 - 03:16 am: |
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Billy’s perspective may well be
"Secretly using the scientific information that I have provided to assist humanity but publicly denouncing me as a liar and hoaxer - To let this continue would only make things worse in times to come..." |
Hoota_thunk
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Post Number: 70
Registered: 07-2017
| | Posted on Thursday, May 02, 2019 - 06:49 am: |
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G'Day Chris, quoting your quoting, "...Some scientists believe that previous flybys..." how is this possible if, if I remember correctly, this is the first time this particular rock is going to provide the necessary lesson for the umpteenth time?
Andrew Grimshaw
- The Quiet Revolution Of Truth -
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Yoid
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Post Number: 140
Registered: 12-2008
| | Posted on Thursday, May 02, 2019 - 09:01 am: |
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2029 is the beginning of full Aquarious golden age, great transitions,changes.From 1844 to 2029 transition time Aquarious age and full after this period.So we have to cope with our problems on Earth.Pjs leave Earth to do their things.They cant hold our hands.You can correct me if i am wrong. |
Justsayno
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Post Number: 841
Registered: 10-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, May 02, 2019 - 09:48 am: |
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If memory serves 2004 was when Apophis was first discovered by earth scientists/observers and 2015 was the last flyby so in all likelihood 2022 is the next flyby...every 7 years.
Good, better, best. May you never rest, until your good is better, and your better best.
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Cpl
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Post Number: 1086
Registered: 08-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, May 02, 2019 - 10:27 am: |
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Hi Hoota/Andrew,
Apophis first came into our system in 2004, but it has been orbiting ever since. It has a seven year flyby cycle. Hence it will come again seven years after 2029, in 2036, assuming it doesn't hit in 2029. So its flybys were/are 2008, 2015, 2022, 2029, and then 2036. We've had half of them. Our scientists should be on top of this by now and ready to deflect it, but they are not.
Chris
Use fully to the best both heart and head and never lose either.
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Kenneth
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Post Number: 968
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Thursday, May 02, 2019 - 11:42 am: |
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Cpl and Justsayno are correct,
"It has a seven year flyby cycle. Hence it will come again seven years after 2029, in 2036, assuming it doesn't hit in 2029. So its flybys were/are 2008, 2015, 2022, 2029, and then 2036... "
The only correction suggested; Earth scientists first discovered Apophis, aka Red Meteor in 2004, It was first mentioned by Billy in 1981.
Salome
Kenneth |
Votan
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Post Number: 906
Registered: 12-2011
| | Posted on Thursday, May 02, 2019 - 03:38 pm: |
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Kenneth
That would explain how it was put into orbit.
It seem to follow a certain flight pattern.
All the scientists need to do is to break the pattern way out to deflect it.
Has the bafath anything to do with it?
joe
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Votan
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Post Number: 907
Registered: 12-2011
| | Posted on Thursday, May 02, 2019 - 03:49 pm: |
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Scott
I was trying to do a search on the atomic bomb and atomic energy, but could not find.
Has Billy ever brought up the subject as I am trying to understand how it can be so destructive.
Also did the Bafath try to launch one on Billy and the Plajarens encased it in a shell.
joe
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Cpl
Member
Post Number: 1088
Registered: 08-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, May 02, 2019 - 10:15 pm: |
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Votan,
Apophis wasn't "put" into orbit; it just came in from outside and was trapped by our solar system. The Bafath have nothing to do with Apophis.
Chris
Use fully to the best both heart and head and never lose either.
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Kenneth
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Post Number: 968
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Thursday, May 02, 2019 - 10:58 pm: |
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Votan,
To my knowledge, the Bafath were not directly involved with 99942 Apophis interfering with the DERN Universe or our specific solar system. My understanding is that Creation always seeks a neutral-positive balance. This can be witnessed all over our planet.
The current civilizations of Earth, including many past civilizations or groups including the Bafath, Atlantis, Mu and many others created a lot of negative energy and destruction. Likewise, the majority of films at the cinema theaters including movies on TV are all about destruction and killing. I could go on and on with examples, that I’m sure you’re already aware of…
In my opinion, 99942 Apophis (Red Meteor) is the neutralizer; Creations answer for something being too negative for too long. If we Earthlings do not get our act together technologically and spiritually, most of everything that current civilizations has accomplished will be brought back to near zero, if you know what I mean?
This is precisely why the Plejaren can’t (will not) divert the Red Meteor, Earthlings brought this cosmic event onto themselves; we have to now deal with it, one way or another.
99942 is approximately ~350 x 170 meters (1,148 x 558 ft.) in size, not comparable to the Triassic extinction event that resulted in the demise of ~76 percent of all marine and terrestrial species.
Nonetheless, the majority of Earth’s civilizations are dependent on electricity, electronics, GPS and various food supply chains due to overpopulation; the destruction of multiple nuclear power generating stations will only compound everything; all of this will be disrupted in some form or another as Apophis is 8 or 9 on the Torino Scale.
The Apophis Team is waging an uphill encounter to get the powers to be to recognize the true value of Pi 3.144605511, which in our opinion is needed to correctly deflect 99942 Apophis away from a collision with earth.
Sorry about the long response to your question; Apophis is a hot button for me!
Sincerely
Kenneth
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Tat_tvam_asi
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Post Number: 998
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Friday, May 03, 2019 - 12:28 am: |
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- Anyway – …
As we speak, FEMA (Federal Emergency Management Agency) ‘experts’ and members of the ESA (European Space Agency) and other astronomers are meeting at the Planetary Defence Conference in Washington (Apr 29 to May 03) to ‘make Earth a safe place’. They discuss what protective measures should be taken if a heavenly body was discovered that could hit Earth; NASA provided the computer simulation – they use ‘fictive’ asteroid ‘2019 PDC’ which is, wait for it, => 100 -300 m long <= It has a 'fictive' 1 % (on the 2nd day: 10 %) chance to hit Earth on April 29, 2027. A red line shows the most likely threatened locations (which according to the simulation game are changing daily).
BTW - ESA uses the forum as well to promote their newly developed space telescope ‘Flyeye’ *) to hunt for asteroids.
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*) Flies have multifaceted eyes (that is why they are so hard to hit). The 'Flyeye' telescope uses a similar technique (i.e. a network of telescopes, splitting the sky into 16 parts) to find any asteroids targeting Earth. If they find any dangerous object on its way they immediately send their finding (co-ordinates etc) to the Minor Planet Center (the ‘world’s central clearing house for all asteroid sightings’) run under a NASA grant.
According to their findings so far: No known asteroid will hit Earth during the next 100 years (though they admit that ‘hundreds of thousands remain unseen and uncharted…’) |
Kenneth
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Post Number: 968
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Friday, May 03, 2019 - 11:28 am: |
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Tat_tvam_asi,
Interesting article indeed, the Apophis Team is also aware of this meeting. Regarding the quote, “According to their findings so far: No known asteroid will hit Earth during the next 100 years (though they admit that ‘hundreds of thousands remain unseen and uncharted…’)”
This overconfidence and more or less arrogance is exactly what the A-Team is running up against with NASA and JPL and associated scientists. There are so many unknowns!
Apophis Team member Harry Lear states, “It seems that some of the NASA, JPL and NEO individuals we have been talking to are not interested in doing a simple inexpensive lab experiment of physically measuring the circumference of a 1 unit diameter circle to find out that Pi = Circumf / diam = 3,144 mm / 1000 mm = 3.144605511... AND NOT 3.141592654... . Nor do they seem interested in stepping through simple Math Proofs at my web site”.
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Let’s take a theoretical illustration; an ‘unseen and uncharted’ meteor passing close by the 99942 meteor/asteroid, changing its course by a fraction of a millimeter, which combined with their incorrect Pi calculation is all it will take to warrant an Earth strike. Apophis, the Greek ‘God of Chaos’ is approximately 9,000,000 miles (14,484,096 km) from Earth.
According to NASA/JPL
The Greek/Egyptian meaning for the word Apophis: Associated with earthquakes, thunder, darkness, storms, chaos and death. If Apophis is non-threatening, why give it such a threatening name?
One of the Apophis Team scientists Christer’s comment after watching 6th IAA (International Academy of Astronautics ) Planetary Defense Conference - EXERCISE GROUPS DEVELOP RECOMMENDATIONS…
“Two issues stand out
One; the lack of evacuation preparedness along the risk corridor.
Two; the absense of a discussion on the possible dual assignement and reengineering of regular defence assets to planetary defence objectives.”
Mr. Bacan, another scientist on the A-Team:
“Had a discussion with NASA/JPL Jon Giorgini "Don"; He and I went back and forth about measurement errors in CNC (Computer Numeric Control) machines, etc. He was not fully convinced, as they are able to get within a few meters of an asteroid.
- They use differential equations for orbit calculation
- However there is some constant calibration?”
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In other words, what Mr. Bacan is saying, NASA/JPL is using a mathematical patch on the incorrect Pi calculation to refine the accuracy. My point is, using a math patch on and incorrect Pi calculation will still show an error of some kind.
Regards
Kenneth |
Newinitiation
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Post Number: 1989
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Friday, May 03, 2019 - 02:56 pm: |
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Kenneth as laudable as your team's efforts are some part of me, having faced the worst part of human nature during my life, compels me to question my sense of justice and that which is conscionable enough to actually doubt why we, the few among the many, should go against Creation's natural order to intervene in its preprogrammed punishment that we earthlings through our utter degeneracy and stupidity have brought upon ourselves.
Why should we the degenerate earthlings who take everything for granted, are shamelessly thankless, who connive and back stab each other, who murder and kill one another, who rape and torture children and the elderly, who gratuitously destroy the very natural environment we depend our survival on in the name of profit and riches, who can't set aside our petty differences and egoism to achieve lasting peace, love, harmony and freedom, who betray one another at the click of a finger, who use and exploit one another like a plaything for self gain irrespective of the lasting damage and consequence to the other person's wellbeing, who create wars, terrorism and conflict in the name of an imaginery nonexisting fictional being, who always wants to impose thir will on others for control and domination, who likes to expropriate from others and rip each other off, who are cunning, manipulative, coercive, controlling, two faced, duplicitous, dishonest, selfish, self aggrandizing, exploiting and ravenous for profit and riches deserve to be saved just because its the right thing to do.
Why shouldn't we deserve what we have brought upon ourselves instead of always getting a get out of jail free card thereby allowing misery, suffering, pain, destitution and sadness to perpetuate.
Why shouldn't tough love prevail where if you stuff up and disregard good principles you suffer the consequence.
Why should the definition of love be twisted and mangled to the point where we are rewarding bad behaviour in its name and in a deluded sense and in its name trying to save the degenerates thereby prolonging more degeneracy and with it so many other awful things generated by man.
Sure it could be argued that not everyone is responsible for all the degeneracy here on earth.
Sure it could be argued that people makes mistakes and have to learn from them.
Sure it could be argued that the whole premise of the teachings are based on Creations love and therefore its only inevitable that in lovingness you should do the right thing.
Sure people need the chance to correct themselves.
Sure we have to give the benefit of doubt, be patient and forebearing just as our prophet in our time was towards us and to strive to be like the prophet towards every conceivable delemma that we are facing.
Sure given our past history not everything is earthling's fault.
Sure forgiveness shall be the work of the human being.
Sure hope is a prerequisite virtue that works its wonders when applied that eventually with time people will eventually learn and get it and thereby correct themselves.
Sure life goes on.
But the point is should actions have no consequence and the laws of cause and effect no validity because it can be ignored and willy nilly denied.
Can anybody adequately answer this question with applicable Creational natural laws in why we shouldn't deserve what we have effectively brought upon ourselves through our own stupidity and degenerate actions and why we should be saved from Apophis when hardly anybody has listen to the prophet's warning nor good sense nor with reason nor logic nor good information based on facts nor the truth nor to understand their duty towards other people and that of earth and so forth.
Do you think our petty existence here on earth is more important than the grand plan of Creation and that even if it takes possibly another ring nebula eye of God destruction of our own galaxy by our own hands we still deserve to live long enough to find out?
What do you members think.
Matt lee |
Votan
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Post Number: 908
Registered: 12-2011
| | Posted on Friday, May 03, 2019 - 03:54 pm: |
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Cpl
I find it hard to agree as some outside influence put it into orbit.
joe
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Kenneth
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Post Number: 968
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Friday, May 03, 2019 - 05:24 pm: |
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Matt,
It sounds as if you would rather roll over and let other less advanced human’s control your destiny without even trying? This situation is going to get much worse before it gets better. What if BEAM or the Plejaren thought that way?...
Be mindful of your thoughts my friend. We know that the Plejaren will not leave our system until after Billy’s passing. Nonetheless, apparently the Plejaren are leaving our system in the year 2029; Apophis will arrive in the year 2029. Billy said, in retrospect, that it will take about 800 years before humankind (Earthlings) sheds religion and live according to the Spiritual Teaching, for the most part. The dots do not have to be connected this way… If Apophis actually strikes Earth, IMO, it will cause much more damage than most realize.
Kenneth |
Kenneth
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Post Number: 969
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Friday, May 03, 2019 - 07:23 pm: |
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427. So therefore, there is no difference in the power of consciousness itself, but only in the kind of thinking, through whose activity the negative, positive or equalisedness arises.
428. From this it results in the fact of vital importance that the thoughts and therefore the thinking-form must be trained and controlled, whereby then the consciousness-based power brings forth only good.
429. This ‘only good’ however, is the equalisedness which is negative and positive in equal parts.
430. Thoughts work like a prism which is able to bend the consciousness-based rays of power into positive or negative according to the kind of thoughts, in order to have a focused effect as living and enlivening or as deadly and destructive might.
431. So it only depends on the thinking as to what becomes of the life and the consciousness of a human being.
432. Every success breaks down sooner or later and is unstable if it is built upon the invisible foundation of the false thinking.
Arahat Athersata
Billy |
Cpl
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Post Number: 1089
Registered: 08-2004
| | Posted on Friday, May 03, 2019 - 10:24 pm: |
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Votan, I can agree with you when you put it that way.
Previously it read to me as though you were suggesting someone or some people, like the Bafath, put it into orbit. Odd as it may seem, to me it looks like if any people had anything to do with putting it here then it might have been the High Council -- they advised the Plejaren that it not be stopped. There is not much discussion here as to why. I have mentioned before that one reason -- and only one -- may be because without it all life on Earth would end, whereas with it we "just" get a very painful reset. An Apophis impact will halt our accelerating planetary destruction via our massively unsustainable overpopulation that is careening towards planetary collapse. It may also interrupt and end a maniacal nuclear WW III, if that develops, from destroying all life; and the unimaginably troubling effects of the impact may cause humankind to seriously reflect on its gross errors in the only way that humankind can.
Chris
Use fully to the best both heart and head and never lose either.
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Cpl
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Post Number: 1090
Registered: 08-2004
| | Posted on Friday, May 03, 2019 - 10:40 pm: |
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According to Billy, Apophis coming here is "a cosmic event" (CR 471).
In CR 150 Quetzal says in verse 493: The cosmic powers have pre-programmed this event, which could only be stopped or prevented by Earth humanity themselves.
Whether those "cosmic powers" are the High Council, others, or merely cosmic material dynamics that "have pre-programmed this event," as in a cosmic game of billiards with bodies knocking into each other, the Meier material does not say.
Chris
Use fully to the best both heart and head and never lose either.
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