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Corey
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Post Number: 483
Registered: 10-2016
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 09, 2019 - 08:33 pm: | 
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Matt Lee,
First off I do not see this as false hopes, you've made your feelings known but it is not going to change my posts one iota, nor will your feelings deter my actions in any way forward. All I can say is if you do not like my overpopulation posts, do not read them. I would post a picture of my and a local anti-overpopulation group trying to get overpopulation legislation in my state's legislature, but I do not think this is the right avenue to post this picture on the forums, we tried, and the Dark Order didn't even try to poison our tea because of it. :-)
Secondly, contact 691 (you know the one you read about the plagues and the nuclear holocaust Billy saw in a vision) has a probability of not coming true with a probability of 34% to 66% because it only has a probability of coming true 34% at most 56% straight from Billy's mouth in the contact. It's not 100% like you state. While it is important to stand against these items too, a vast majority of the items that may lead up to it, such as the potential worldwide unemployment misery stem from overpopulation, and Billy's solutions are the sane, logical choice.
If the Dark Order is going to make these events come true to 100%, and cause all that death, it has because it has been in the cards for years, and it will not be Billy, nor any of his Getreue (like-minded companions) fault, the fault will lie solely with the Dark Order.
If I am going to die as part of a "final solution" this makes me glad I have been reading the encoded German materials for over a decade, creating determinations and doing lots of learning for this current life, perhaps creating foreordinations of my next life, where perhaps I will argue against overpopulation all over again, and free willingly be a thorn in the side of the ruling class.
The spiritual teaching is such in my life, and has assisted my life so, that I am convinced I will be a part of the good-bearing future in my next life, no matter what condition the Earth is left in, alas it will be good for me as part of a causal foreordination,. Learning how to emit the correct swinging-wave in the current life can assist one in the next life, and this was not taught to me by my parents. I had to learn and read to learn it.
You can count on more overpopulation posts from me, as I do not see it as a lost cause, thank you for expressing your feelings.
Salome, Corey Müske. -"Kelch der Wahrheit"/"Goblet of the Truth"
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22:08: " Werdet ihr Menschen vom Unglück verfolgt und könnt ihr euer Leben nicht so harmonisch gestalten, wie ihr das gerne möchtet, dann vermögt ihr dies zu ändern, wenn ihr euch dem Einklang der kosmischen Ordnung und damit den schöpferischen Gesetzen und Geboten zuwendet und sie befolgt."
22:08: "If you human beings are pursued by the unfortune and are unable to form your lives as harmoniously as you would like, then you are able to change this if you turn to the consonance of the cosmic regulation and therefore to the creational laws and recommendations, and follow them."
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Cpl
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Post Number: 1036
Registered: 08-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, January 09, 2019 - 11:41 pm: |
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Hi Matt,
We probably cannot achieve 100% of the necessary population solution in our lifetime, but this does not mean that we should not try. Every little bit counts, and it counts on all of us doing what we can.
Chris
Use fully to the best both heart and head and never lose either.
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Newinitiation
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Post Number: 1897
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Friday, January 11, 2019 - 01:23 am: |
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Hi Corey
Good on ya Corey I know you had it in you.
Keep up the good work and keep on keeping on.
This world needs more people like you.
People who genuinely care rather than the great pretenders.
People who are committed to their conviction no matter what rain, hail or shine.
Worthy cause and worthy causers shall be justly rewarded if not in this life then the next.
You needn't feel down graded by what I said my friend.
It was just me expressing my lamentation for the whole sad situation where the good and the logically well intentioned never has a say in this day and age.
And so shall be the life of the student of the truth in this era where their lives reflect that of the prophet himself.
Scorned, ridiculed, made fun of, character assassinated, condescendingly mocked, reviled, discriminated against, betrayed, hated and so forth.
All in a days work I guess.
Keep your head held high my man you will be richly rewarded in the afterlife and beyond.
And the reward is definitely having participated in the truth and all that it entails.
Matt lee |
Newinitiation
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Post Number: 1898
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Friday, January 11, 2019 - 01:26 am: |
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Hi Chris
I agree
There is nothing to refute in what you said.
Matt lee |
Tat_tvam_asi
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Post Number: 983
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Friday, March 08, 2019 - 08:25 am: |
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From German Figu Website dated March 2, 2019 (On Overpopulation)
"...The Earth's world population is consistently misrepresented by earthly statisticians because they do not have the accurate population data worldwide, nor do they have the possibility for accurate electronic registration, but only numerical “pro forma” assumptions.
According to the Plejaren, who have a highly technical, overall control system for personal registration, they can show a very accurate result in relation to the current population registration of the terrestrial population. According to their exact registrations, some 1.3 billion more people populate the earth than the misleading [illusive/illusory] earthly calculations suggest.
During the year, in the course of 365 days, the Plejaren register every single birth and every death for 24 hours every 24 hours from the beginning of the year at 00:00 to 24:00 pm on 31 December, year-end, 24 hours a day, each new birth and each new death, doing so results in an absolutely accurate result of the terrestrial population which does not exclude one single person.
[Doing so] amounted at 24.00 hours on 31 December 2018 to exactly 8 953'851 416 = resp. 8 billion, 953 million, 851 thousand, 416 Earth people.
Terrestrial statistics, which state a world population of 7.7 billion for the year 2018, are therefore inconsistent with reality and its truth.
The annual growth rate of the terrestrial population resp. overpopulation is, according to the extremely accurate Plejarian data and their daily control records for the year 2018 re. the total population of the earth, is 109 million, 723 thousand and 416 people, and not 82 million, as the earthly statistics falsely assert..."
German Original
Die Weltbevölkerungszahl der Erde wird von den irdischen Statistikern durchwegs falsch angegeben, weil sie weltweit nicht über genaue Bevölkerungsdaten und auch nicht über die Möglichkeit für genaue elektronische Registrierungsmöglichkeiten, sondern nur über zahlenmässige Pro-forma-Annahmen verfügen. Gemäss den Angaben der Plejaren, die über ein hochtechnisiertes, gesamtirdisches Kontrollsystem in bezug auf Personenregistrierung verfügen, können sie ein sehr genaues Resultat in bezug auf die laufende Bevölkerungsregistrierung der irdischen Bevölkerung ausweisen. So bevölkern ihren genauen Registrierungen gemäss rund 1,3 Milliarden Menschen mehr die Erde, als die irdischen Schein-Berechnungen ergeben. Die Plejaren registrieren während des Jahres im Verlauf der 365 Tage ab 00.00 Uhr Jahresbeginn 1. Januar – bis 24.00 Uhr, 31. Dezember, Jahresende, regelmässig täglich 24 Stunden lang jede einzelne Neugeburt sowie jeden Todesfall, folglich sich so ein absolut bis auf einen einzelnen Menschen genaues Resultat der irdischen Gesamtbevölkerung ergibt. Diese betrug um 24.00 Uhr am 31. Dezember 2018 exakt 8 953‘851 416 = resp. 8 Milliarden, 953 Millionen, 851 tausend, 416 Erdenmenschen
Die irdische Statistik, die eine Weltbevölkerungszahl von 7,7 Milliarden für das Jahr 2018 darlegt, stimmt also nicht mit der Wirklichkeit und deren Wahrheit überein. Die jährliche Zuwachsrate der irdischen Bevölkerung resp. Überbevölkerung beträgt gemäss äusserst genauen plejarischen Angaben und ihren täglichen Kontrollaufzeichnungen für das Jahr 2018 in bezug auf die Gesamtbevölkerung der Erde 109 Millionen, 723 tausend und 416 Menschen, nicht jedoch 82 Millionen, wie die irdischen Statistiken fälschlich behaupten.
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A quote by Albert Einstein on overpopulation ...
"I am convinced that some political and social activities and practices of the Catholic organizations are detrimental and even dangerous for the community as a whole, here and everywhere. I mention here only the fight against birth control at a time when overpopulation in various countries has become a serious threat to the health of people and a grave obstacle to any attempt to organize peace on this planet." [Albert Einstein -- letter, 1954]" |
Newinitiation
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Post Number: 1952
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Friday, April 05, 2019 - 12:26 am: |
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Due to overpopulation of human beings there is an overpopulation of cattle which equates to enormous amount of methane emissions.
There is a promissing sign of material called nanoporous zeolites which scrubs methane from the atmosphere.
We put diapers on babies and the elderly so why not do it for cows that is made of this material.
Using jumbo jets that dump fire retardants on wild fire why not unload tonnes of this stuff from the same airplane in liquid form on the melting permafrost especially in Greenland and the arctic.
There have been chemtrail experiments and geoengineering done spraying barium and fine aluminium needles from a plane in the past so why not spray the entire atmosphere of this zeolite stuff into the air and let whatever comes come to curtail climate change and global warming a little bit.
The consequences of doing nothing whilst the overpopulation problem grows by the day is extremely suicidal.
Obviously one must first research what the health effects of what this stuff is going to be when sprayed on the general public and the environment but more electric of anything is basically useless as it requires that much more fossil fuel to produce the damn thing in the first place and the manufacturing of the tens of thousands of parts of a motor vehicle and the amount of factories involved in the production of these individual parts negates any supposed gain people mistakenly think they gain from reducing anything that runs on combustion engine.
matt lee |
Cpl
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Post Number: 1060
Registered: 08-2004
| | Posted on Friday, April 05, 2019 - 05:08 am: |
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Hi Matt,
I read that putting seaweed in the cattle feed almost completely stops the methane farts. Some Asians around these parts should be teaming up to make some money by supplying seaweed to cattle ranchers.
Chris
Use fully to the best both heart and head and never lose either.
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Newinitiation
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Post Number: 1953
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Friday, April 05, 2019 - 10:40 am: |
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Chris that's a good idea if it works
Maybe some of the locals in your neighbourhood might be interested in that venture you were speaking of as seaweed is practically a main staple there.
If it wasn't for that Fukushima..........
Maybe there will come a time when new supplement products start hitting the shelves for cows too like cowdifilan, cowrulina, coweed, bofinalgae, kaiso ushi or what have you.
Matt lee |
Kenneth
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Post Number: 964
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Friday, April 05, 2019 - 03:16 pm: |
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Ah yes, using our environment to its fullest! Combine that seaweed with some cockroach milk and you have. . . . .
It's crazy, cockroach milk is the new health fad. Just think, smaller carbon footprint, less Methane produced, etc., ect. All I can say is YUK!
"An international team of scientists sequenced a protein crystal located in the midgut of cockroaches in 2016. The reason?
It's more than four times as nutritious as cow's milk and the researchers think it could be the key to feeding our growing population in the future.
Although most cockroaches don't actually produce milk, Diploptera punctate, which is the only known cockroach to give birth to live young, has been shown to pump out a type of 'milk' containing protein crystals to feed its babies...."
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Cpl
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Post Number: 1061
Registered: 08-2004
| | Posted on Friday, April 05, 2019 - 07:34 pm: |
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We live in hope, Matt.
Chris
Use fully to the best both heart and head and never lose either.
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Kenneth
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Post Number: 964
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Saturday, April 06, 2019 - 09:06 am: |
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The obvious problem with these so called knowledgeable, unknowing scientist is that they resort to something as ridiculous as cockroach milk to promote and feed a larger and growing population instead of finding alternatives to humanly reduce the population to allow Earth to naturally provide sustenance and nourishment for a sustainable global population of approximately 500,000,000!
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“The cosmic change and the existence of the Age of Aquarius demand their right according to their guidelines, to which the Earth human being must bow, whether they want to or not because the continued existence and the self-relative-absolute fulilment of the Creation itself demand the respect and fulfilment of its laws and recommendations.”
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“So the Earth human being has the choice between life or death.”
Arahat Athersata
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Newinitiation
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Post Number: 1955
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, April 07, 2019 - 03:55 am: |
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If I could ask a genie in a bottle to grant me 3 wishes without any limitation I would have my despotic and dictatorial moment by forcing a decree on every citizen of the world to follow the birthrate check and birth reduction plan laid out by figu punishable by life imprisonment if contravened.
I would also decree all forms of religious cult banned effective immediately punishable by life imprisonment if this law is contravened.
Lastly I would declare everyone who is alive right now and those that are still yet to be born be bound by the Creational spiritual laws and recommendations to the best of their abilities above any manmade laws effective immediately punishable by life imprisonment if not followed.
On these three urgent matters no human being can exercise their freewill the right to refuse as the law is non negotiable even if this law goes against the creative natural laws and recommendations.
Matt lee |
Votan
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Post Number: 904
Registered: 12-2011
| | Posted on Sunday, April 07, 2019 - 05:52 am: |
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Matt lee
What are you on about?
joe
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Newinitiation
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Post Number: 1957
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 09, 2019 - 11:43 am: |
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Hi votan it's one of those desperate times call for desperate measures scenario where you are forced to hold hostage all passengers and crew of the Titanic at gunpoint in order to save themselves from themselves.
Whilst the bar on the VIP floor is churning out liquor and some whoring is going on in the lower deck with bands pumping out music outside not one of these individuas including the captain on this ship is aware of the imminent doom that lies ahead for the Titanic.
The party has got to be stopped at some point
Matt lee |
Msmichelle
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Post Number: 492
Registered: 02-2010
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 10, 2019 - 06:27 am: |
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MsMichelle
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Newinitiation
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Post Number: 1959
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 10, 2019 - 11:40 pm: |
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Miscelle I know I know but.....
I am still dragging out this fantasy of mine so please let me indulge for a couple more minutes.
Obviously quick fixes never end well so its a good thing that this will remain locked up in my imagination hole.
Imagine what you or I or anyone here could accomplish with Nokodemjon's army of android and robot peace fighter troops if it was available
No one would dare to oppose the mighty and tremendous force of the logical force lest they get locked up and it gets really dirty from hereon because negative force has to be used to accomplish this feat considering how badly things have degenerated here on earth.
Wars would be incited from people opposing these laws but to no avail against the fighter troops.
Billions of people have to be locked up initially and then freed one by one as they progressively conform to the laws.
Bondage by another name is still bondage but being bound to Creational natural laws is way better than being bound by religion, overpopulation, 7 WUV conditions and possibility of extinction.
I wonder how this scenario sits with the Creational natural law.
Would even degenerate force be justified if it serves a much higher purpose or would the natural laws prefer a civilisation to wipe itself out without drastic intervention of force of its laws to those who are far too gone to even see any value in it.
So effectively would it be better to let the hijacked 747 plough into a major city killing thousands rather than it being shot down?
Matt lee |
Msmichelle
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Post Number: 493
Registered: 02-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, April 11, 2019 - 05:54 am: |
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Matt, I agree, we must approach the rapid overpopulation with logic, reason, etc. and maybe only destruction, catastrophe are the only options. If we go to other planets in our present state(or lack thereof), we would destroy those planets as well. So possibly a large majority of our population may need a "reset" or "completely wiped out" again, and those spirtforms will require thousands of years of "suspension" until the planet's population is restored and those suspended spiritforms will be placed on a planet similiar to earth and we'll be responsible for assisting in their development just as the "P's" are assisting now? It's daunting.
MsMichelle
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Newinitiation
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Post Number: 1960
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, April 11, 2019 - 11:03 am: |
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Miscelle you said 'its daunting' and how right you are.
It doesn't seize to amaze me that of all era especially the technologically savvy and all the knowledge in the world accessible at the flick of a finger year 2019 we are still having these kinds of conversations about the same problems that have persisted for so many decades which has now gone progressively worse yet we are forced to speak about this primitive state of affair because frankly nothing has changed for the better.
Its tiring because its the same old s*** over and over again but different day.
The most annoying part about it is that the solution to our possible annihilation is so simple to implement yet no matter what you do you still have to wait for the world to change.
Let's look at this in a different light and to underscore the madness of it all.
If I was to offer anyone out there US$200,000 of annual income as an incentive to study the spiritual teaching and to follow the laws of creation which also involves a birth reduction plan I would bet that 9 out of 10 people would take up on the offer.
Its unfortunate or rather fortunate that there is no money in spiritual teaching and the Laws of Creation.
Matt lee |
Corey
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Post Number: 501
Registered: 10-2016
| | Posted on Thursday, April 11, 2019 - 06:47 pm: |
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Moderator Scott, I am hoping you will overlook the length of this post due to the urgency of the overpopulation situation, and the fact that the worldwide admonishment back home to the teaching of the prophets is urgently required at this time before the fall of humanity.
Matt Lee,
You mentioned 3 very important ideals that it should be made legal Earth law to follow (with harsh penalties for offenders [banishment to a secluded place]):
1) birth-stop birth reduction plan and 7 year birth-rate checks proscribed by the FIGU.
2) all forms of religious cult banned effective immediately
3) those alive right now and those yet to be born are thus bound legally to following the laws and the recommendations of the Creation to the best of his or her ability.
These are the laws that govern the universe. Very important to follow;
Ms Michelle, very good plan, and I feel we can get the same "suspension" of the vast majority of our 127 billion Earth spirit-forms waiting to be born through 7 years of no births whatsoever (7 year birth-stoppage) followed by one single year of modest amount of births to modest amount of approved couples who posses a birth permit, and then back to seven full years of no births, then one more year of modest birthing allowed via birth-permit system, and the cycle would continue.
We could even probably get the replacement number of births recommended for the one off year births are allowed after each 7-year cycle from Billy and the Plejaren, so we can do this right, by the book, and so we can reach the ultimate goal of only 529 million living humans within 200 years.
Large portions of global humanity will still die when the '48 predictions come true, why not start the birth-stop now and stave off other (changeable) prophecies? Try and minimize the damage and minimize the casualties, calamity, destruction, disasters, hardship, misery, etc, which we will still collectively experience at the "hands" of the '48 predictions somewhat still.
* I have long posted in the archives that world governments should be using the world's media to influence public opinion away from overpopulation and overprocreation, towards an Earth majority favored birth-stop. I mean all the main channels and news programs educating the bottom of our society about the evils of overpopulation, future climate disaster, the '48 predictions, all of it, bare the truth to humanity to accept;
We can check the 9th chapter of the source of the laws and recommendations of the Creation, the valuable "Goblet of the Truth" and see what it says about overpopulation and turning away from the negative.
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Pertinent "Goblet" verses:
118) "And beware of breeding too many of people of your kind (human beings) so that the breadth of the earth does not become too narrow for you and there is no longer any refuge for you on it; therefore do not turn in pity to those who want to create descendants if there are too many of all the people of your kind (humankind), otherwise a cataclysm (catastrophe) is unavoidable when the appearance (nature) turns against you and you can no longer do anything about it; truly, the number of all people of your kind (humankind) is restricted for your world, but as you exceed the number then calamities of all kinds sweep over you, which you can no longer control."
118) "Und hütet euch davor, dass ihr Euresgleichen (Menschen) zuviel zeugt, auf dass euch die Erde in ihrer Weite nicht zu eng wird und es euch darauf keine Zuflucht mehr gibt; also kehrt euch nicht im Erbarmen zu jenen, die Nachkommenschaft zeugen wollen, wenn alle Euresgleichen (Menschheit) zuviel sind, denn sonst ist eine Umwälzung (Katastrophe) unaufhaltbar, wenn sich das Aussehen (Natur) gegen euch wendet und ihr nichts mehr dagegen tun könnt; wahrlich, die Zahl aller Euresgleichen (Menschheit) ist für eure Welt beschränkt, doch so ihr die Zahl überschreitet, bricht Unheil aller Art über euch herein, dem ihr nicht mehr Herr werdet"
120) "It is not seemly for you as inhabitants of Earth that you commit misdemeanours against it and destroy it in itself and in its appearance (nature) through your might and undiscernment (irrationality); but if you do this, then you make yourselves into enemies of your world, which is your home, from which will spring misery, hardship and affliction for you, which must be ascribed to you as a disparaging (despicable) work; and truly your reward for this is terrible cataclysms (catastrophes) with enormous destruction and wholesale (mass) deaths of people of your kind (human beings)."
120) "Es ziemt euch nicht als Bewohner der Erde, dass ihr euch gegen sie vergeht und sie durch eure Macht und Unklugheit (Unvernunft) in ihr selbst und in ihrem Aussehen (Natur) zerstört; tut ihr es doch, dann macht ihr euch selbst zu Feinden eurer Welt, die eure Heimat ist, woraus euch Not, Leid und Elend entstehen, was euch als schmählich (abscheulich) verdienstliches Werk angelastet werden muss; und wahrlich ist euer Lohn dafür schreckliche Umwälzung (Katastrophen) mit gewaltigen Zerstörungen und bannigen (massenweisen) Toden Euresgleichen (Menschen)."
127) "And truly, even since the time before you, it has been the case that you do not allow yourselves to be admonished and you merely look at one another and laugh about the admonishments (warnings) of the prophets, just as you also turn away from them because you do not want to understand."
127) "Und wahrlich, es ist schon seit der Zeit vor euch so, dass ihr euch nicht mahnen lasst und einander nur anschaut und über die Ermahnungen (Warnungen) der Propheten lacht, wie ihr euch auch von ihnen abwendet, weil ihr nicht begreifen wollt."
128) "Your awakening, however, will be a painful one if you do not listen to the admonishments (warnings) and to the advices of the true prophets, but only to the falsehoods (deviousness) of the false prophets and the lies and slanders (calumny) of the hypocrites who present themselves as servants of gods and servants of tin gods; and if you do fall into calamity, then do not wait for kindheartedness and benevolence (hu manity) from your gods and tin gods or your demons, because just as they are only powerless hazy pictures (fantasies), they do not have any power either to bring you help no matter how arduously you make entreaties to them, pray and kneel down before them."
128) "Euer Erwachen wird aber schmerzlich sein, wenn ihr nicht auf die Ermahnungen (Warnungen) und auf die Ratgebungen der wahrlichen Propheten hört, sondern nur den Falschheiten (Verschlagenheit) der falschen Propheten und den Lügen und Verlästerungen (Verleumdung) der Fälscher (Heuchler), die sich als Götterdiener und Götzendiener geben; und wenn ihr ins Unheil geratet, dann wartet nicht auf Güte und Barmherzigkeit (Menschlichkeit) eurer Götter und Götzen oder eurer Dämonen, denn so wie sie nur kraftlose Dunstbilder (Phantasien) sind, haben sie auch keine Kraft, euch Hilfe zu bringen, wenn ihr auch noch so sehr zu ihnen fleht, betet und vor ihnen niederkniet."
129) "However, if you turn yourselves away from your wrong doing, lend your ears to the true prophets and give enough consideration to the laws and recommendations of the fertilisation of the life (Creation) and trust in the mightiness of its guidelines (guiding principles) and its power, then it will go well with you and you will not be struck by the terrible things and the calamities about which you have been admonished (warned)."
129) "Wendet ihr euch aber ab von eurem falschen Tun, leiht ihr den wahrlichen Propheten euer Ohr und tut ihr den Gesetzen und Geboten der Befruchtung des Lebens (Schöpfung) Genüge und vertraut ihr auf die Mächtigkeit ihrer Richtschnüre (Richtlinien) und ihrer Kraft, dann wird es euch wohl ergehen und ihr werdet nicht von den Übeln und dem Unheil getroffen, wovor ihr ermahnt (gewarnt) seid."
"Goblet of the Truth" Chapter 9 verses 118, 120, 127-129 translated officially by FIGU-Switzerland, copyright FIGU-BEAM (Creative Commons).
Salome, Corey Müske. -"Kelch der Wahrheit"/"Goblet of the Truth"
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22:08: " Werdet ihr Menschen vom Unglück verfolgt und könnt ihr euer Leben nicht so harmonisch gestalten, wie ihr das gerne möchtet, dann vermögt ihr dies zu ändern, wenn ihr euch dem Einklang der kosmischen Ordnung und damit den schöpferischen Gesetzen und Geboten zuwendet und sie befolgt."
22:08: "If you human beings are pursued by the unfortune and are unable to form your lives as harmoniously as you would like, then you are able to change this if you turn to the consonance of the cosmic regulation and therefore to the creational laws and recommendations, and follow them."
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Votan
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Post Number: 905
Registered: 12-2011
| | Posted on Thursday, April 11, 2019 - 11:55 pm: |
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Hi Matt
As I said many times, unless you sort out both the monetary system and religion, nothing will change.
joe
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Newinitiation
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Post Number: 1961
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Friday, April 12, 2019 - 02:16 pm: |
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Hi Votan
I would agree with you Votan but over the years my conclusions have changed.
As you know the proverbial answer is that to solve any macro issues we must first address the micro issues and that being the man/woman himself/herself and visa verser.
Billy's advice over the years about this hasn't changed and neither the content of the spiritual teaching in that the human being must take full self responsibility and control his/her thoughts, feelings and actions.
As you know so well every external manmade condition, system and how things are in general are the expression and manifestation of man's inner dimension namely his thoughts-feeling and then actions.
How could it be otherwise and just as it is what it says it really is in the spiritual teaching and in real concrete everyday life our external manmade environment is the consequence our inner world and everything that goes on inside our heads.
Semjase said impulse created the world and thoughts are the foundation of those very impulses that man acts, reacts and is impelled and compelled to action which has led to the world we see today.
So in the end to solve the overpopulation issue down to its roots the solution has to be reeducating the man himself of the foundational truth that belies this problem at a deeper level than the conclusions he normally draws from the everyday life such as traffic congestion, mass unemployment, lack of opportunities, increased competition for jobs, worsening air pollution, noise pollution, human congestion, diminishing resources, environmental degradation, increasing social and societal issues, increase in crime, increased lawlessness etc which are all just a symptom of their lack of knowledge of the truth.
The spiritual teaching and the Creational spiritual directives and recommendations are the sensible blueprint and the higher specification for sound living for which when ignored you get the unsolvable problems like overpopulation, psychotic economic conditions and the equally socio-psychopathic players that continue to prop up the stud quo, 7 WUVerian conditions and the ever lingering threat of MAD.
So I would target man/woman's thoughts as the primary place for change with the injection of the knowledge of the truth so that with more insight, awareness, recognition, understanding, cognition, knowledge and truth he/she may dispel ignorance and start wisely following the laws of Creation with the consequence being that his/her external conditions change for the better and he/she no longer becomes a threat to others and him/herself.
Buy I tell you what it's only a quick fix and a degenerate one at that but naked violence trumps everything and works like magic when you want to get things done.
If you put a gun to somebody's head you can get them to do anything you wish and if you rule by fear it's the most effective and efficient short term strategy in getting things done right here right now besides monetary means.
This is one of the reasons why the spiritual teachings has a hard time attracting people because since time immemorial people are so conditioned by carrot and stick approach and following the charismatic leader syndrome that anything requiring effort and self initiative tend to be frowned upon.
Put a gun to someone's head and you realise just how quickly this can all change and how motivated people become for self preservation that they are willing to do anything it takes to survive.
It's no wonder then why Jehovah and other gods ruled with an iron fist and fear.
And thanks to him and his Pavlovian conditioning that billy and the plejaren's work has been that much more difficult and why the spiritual teaching cannot seem to gain any momentum yet.
Matt lee |
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Thanks Corey for that quote
Matt lee |
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Hi Matt,
Re your:
Buy I tell you what it's only a quick fix and a degenerate one at that but naked violence trumps everything and works like magic when you
want to get things done.
If you put a gun to somebody's head you can get them to do anything you wish and if you rule by fear it's the most effective and efficient
short term strategy in getting things done right here right now besides monetary means.
"Violence" and "fear" do not necessarily trump everything when attempting to get things done. If they do not lead to reactionary violence in return -- which, of course they often do -- then they do get things done. This is the militaries' way of getting tings done. The actions may be efficient, but the results on the people involved are very often if not usually quite detrimental.
The other way to get things done is through love, care, help, and assistance. These, when lived and used properly and not superficially, are a far better approach because they do not create violent backlash, but positive cooperative work and results, in both activities and interpersonally.
This, of course, leads to your good comments on living and teaching the ways of Creation in love to others in all the ways that we can, no matter how small or seemingly insignificant. It is eventually the love of Creation that will pull us through once we learn to live and express this in our lives.
Many say this is a weak or wet approach, but it is not. The way of love is as hard as it easy in our world. People still want love and friendship, and when we speak with true love and friendship very few will just reject us. The means, the method, the how, are vitally important.
Enforcement is necessary, but this is different from violence; and those enforcing the law must have the power and authority to enforce it. As I see it, violence is only appropriate as a defence when violence is used on us, and essentially that is what law enforcement is -- or should be. Even so, the level of violence should only be no more than the amount necessary to enforce the law or apprehend the criminal. Yes, there is fear there, but it should, again, be no more than is necessary. Too often today we see -- though mostly in movies -- that apprehension of criminals are often way too violent which results in tragedies and inhumanities which in turn create social unrest and can even lead to societal breakdown.
Our first and most sterling efforts must be to live and love the creational recommendations.
Chris
Use fully to the best both heart and head and never lose either.
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