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    Justsayno Member Post Number: 842 Registered: 10-2009 |
Hi Joe according to the flat earth website, they have members all "around the globe". The only reason there is no curvature is because they aren't far enough out into space to record it. It's obvious some people will believe anything and I wouldn't doubt that the flat earth society spends a lot of time laughing at the stupidity of their members. According to Billy's material only Apollo 11 was fake, the next six weren't. Good, better, best. May you never rest, until your good is better, and your better best. | ||
Kenneth Member Post Number: 985 Registered: 04-2013 |
Hi Voltan, It’s easy to get caught up in this belief of the Flat Earth theory, which is tantamount to a religion. When working in the aerospace industry with various astronauts, scientists and engineers, I can tell you for a fact that the Earth is not flat! There are in fact laser deflectors setting on the moon that are shot with lasers from Earth to determine the exact distance of the Moon from Earth. For all practical purposes, lasers do not drop due to the Earth’s curvature. Not getting into the physical properties of light energy being a form of matter and being effected by gravity in outer space, this is a whole different issue. The truthful fact is that the Moon’s linear distance from Earth is increasing at a rate of approximately 3.82 + or – 0.07 centimeters (1.503937 inches) per year; nonetheless, this rate of rectilinear movement is not a constant due to Earth’s extraordinary wobble spinning motion that has developed ever since Earthlings started developing atom splitting weapons. According to the Plejaren, “…then in 1968, the outer fringes of Earth’s space will be left, and later the first trip to the moon will be undertaken, whereby up until the year 1972, five (5) manned Moon-landings will take place through the U.S.A., while a sixth Moon-landing – supposedly the first – on July 20th, 1969 will rest only on a world-wide staged deceit as a result of the political armament race with the Soviet Union.” https://theyflyblog.com/2016/07/13/apollo-11-moon-landing-how-it-was-hoaxed/ Regarding the tests that have been done with lasers to prove that the Earth is flat, is more than questionable. If the tests were truly done scientifically, it would in fact prove that the Earth is a sphere. Bottom line, yes we Earthlings have been to the Moon and back again; just not when NASA said we did. That’s a whole other issue. Kenneth | ||
Cpl Member Post Number: 1106 Registered: 08-2004 |
These flat earthers are incapable of thinking anything through and waste people's valuable time with their crass ignorance. Why do they expect the laser to curve? They make it sound as though the "curvature" of the Earth would cause the light to curve, but don't they really mean the gravity of the globe? Their foolish argument holds for a flat Earth too -- if it were accurate. A laser fired from an edge of their flat Earth would, according to their theory then be curved by gravity towards the center of their Earth (it's not curvature but extreme gravity that causes light to curve). The reason this doesn't happen is because light behaves a bit differently than dense matter. Newton even thought light wouldn't be affected at all by gravity. Light travels in a straight line, very fast and has minimal weight/mass. For light to curve you need an enormous amount of gravity, or distortion of space time which is what gravity is. Light therefore bends a bit when passing something as massive as the sun, and a lot when nearing a black hole. Thankfully, the Earth has way too little gravity to noticeably bend light, although it will to a minute degree. If it had enough gravity to bend light like flat earthers expect the gravity would crush us all to death. Chris Use fully to the best both heart and head and never lose either. | ||
Hugo Member Post Number: 666 Registered: 04-2015 |
Votan, I think the flat earth theory is likely a CIA test to see how dumb and gullible many people are. I remember when it started it did so with suddenly and with many videos. My Youtube "recommended videos" were all of a sudden full of flat earth theory video recommendations when I never watched any conspiracy videos before. There was a big push behind it with many flat earth videos (already made) and it was sudden and everyone copped it, so you work it out. Imo, people that fell and believed in the flat earth theory are gullible and dumb. | ||
Michael_horn Member Post Number: 1388 Registered: 07-2009 |
See if this is relevant: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mw30CgaXiQw | ||
Tat_tvam_asi Member Post Number: 1015 Registered: 04-2011 |
We know from Quetzal that the Roswell androids (bred by the very high-tech Reticulum people **)) were animated by an artificial brain which was so constructed that it could directly absorb and use cosmic-electromagnetic life energies. These cosmic energies keep these androids animated and are the basis for the existence of their lives *) –Quetzal told Billy then as well that the same energy keeps the Plejaren androids “alive” and that it will be several thousand years before Earth scientists will be able to produce such androids. So my question may be a little "early": Would anyone in the Forum know of any science experiments (Tesla? – HAARP? – plant "brains" in photosynthesis?) that directly absorb “cosmic-electromagnetic” energies and if so, how (roughly explained) this energy is “absorbed”? I ask this question because, maybe, it may "motivate" some Earth scientists to explore how this conversion could function ... Salome, Bill *) Q. tells Billy that this construct (direct absorption of cosmic-electromagnetic energies) could not be detected by the US doctors and scientists (CR 215:74-101) ^): Col. Philip Corso (his book "The Day after Roswell") explained that the Roswell ETs did have neither a reproductive nor a digestive system. **) Acc. to Q. they are as well a very humane and liberal society with expressed human rights (I think their androids may be what constitutes the 3 groups (South/North America - Europe/Africa - Asia/Australia/Antarctic) mentioned in later reports about the ETs in our skies - details, post 679: http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/863/15879.html#POST83459 ----------------------------------- ^) http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_215 | ||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 2028 Registered: 07-2005 |
Hi Bill good question but its one of those questions that is so way ahead of its time that it might have to take another 500 years to 1000's more before it could be answerable by our progeny. What I can establish though is that we are still waiting for the Chinese and the Japanese to discover the next stage or level of matter for which we are at the 5th, this according to the Plejaren. This may mean that the Chinese and the Japanese will succeed in further breaking down muons, gluons, up quarks, down quarks and so forth to get to the 4th level or stage of matter and beyond that more discoveries will be made by their children's children's children to get to the 3rd and then the 2nd and then finally the spiritual finest of fine matter which is what I am assuming to be the fine cosmic energies that the Plejaren and Billy are talking about that animates everything including the human beings. Its obviously mind boggling thinking about it and its always the stuff that we can't see with our own two eyes that is facinating and one that is the most mysterious. I mean who before Billy Meier spoke about it even knew about the existence of hyperfrequency thought waves which in and of themselves are also fine matter energies and that it travels to about 900,000 kilometers (or was it miles) distance or that by the time children are born with their nerves exposed that they will form the robot people and during this era new energy sources would have been discovered to power them and that it will power these half androids half humans of that time to new heights in its quest for discovery and full fledged flight into outer space before they will be eliminated along with the pig people. Its amazing just thinking about it. Matt lee | ||
Corey Member Post Number: 530 Registered: 10-2016 |
(Scott can you accept this post instead of the other version that is in queue? Thanks) Bill, I don't think the 3 races that guard humanity are from this universe, although they (the 3 races that guard humanity) now belong to a now-impressive conglomeration that spans nearly the entire universe. They are definitely not from our space/time configuration. Yet they definitely desire peace with the Earth-man at the right future time-point. I am not going to reveal secrets about building androids, but androids with sophisticated circuitry and bio-organic features are characteristics of many foreign-to-earth civilizations, not just the Reticulim. Sincerely, Corey Müske (Mueske)  Salome, Corey Müske. -"Kelch der Wahrheit"/"Goblet of the Truth" ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- 22:08: " Werdet ihr Menschen vom Unglück verfolgt und könnt ihr euer Leben nicht so harmonisch gestalten, wie ihr das gerne möchtet, dann vermögt ihr dies zu ändern, wenn ihr euch dem Einklang der kosmischen Ordnung und damit den schöpferischen Gesetzen und Geboten zuwendet und sie befolgt." 22:08: "If you human beings are pursued by the unfortune and are unable to form your lives as harmoniously as you would like, then you are able to change this if you turn to the consonance of the cosmic regulation and therefore to the creational laws and recommendations, and follow them." | ||
Corey Member Post Number: 531 Registered: 10-2016 |
Note, an elaboration: "..although they (the 3 races that guard humanity) now belong to a now-impressive conglomeration that spans nearly the entire universe..". At least it is strongest in our general sub-section of this universe, especially in our Galaxy we know as the Milky Way. Sincerly, Corey Müske (Mueske) 04:24 29th of June, in the year 2019. Salome, Corey Müske. -"Kelch der Wahrheit"/"Goblet of the Truth" ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- 22:08: " Werdet ihr Menschen vom Unglück verfolgt und könnt ihr euer Leben nicht so harmonisch gestalten, wie ihr das gerne möchtet, dann vermögt ihr dies zu ändern, wenn ihr euch dem Einklang der kosmischen Ordnung und damit den schöpferischen Gesetzen und Geboten zuwendet und sie befolgt." 22:08: "If you human beings are pursued by the unfortune and are unable to form your lives as harmoniously as you would like, then you are able to change this if you turn to the consonance of the cosmic regulation and therefore to the creational laws and recommendations, and follow them." | ||
Tat_tvam_asi Member Post Number: 1016 Registered: 04-2011 |
Yes, Matt, it is “one of those questions..." I know it sounds rather "futuristic". And initially I wondered whether I should mention it on our forum. But we sometimes need to explore a new and very different world (as e.g. the world of Reticulum and Plejaren androids) to get a different perspective for the problems that mankind faces: In CR 714 (Jan 1, 2019) Billy tells us (what the Plejaren had told him) that to produce the food for the animals that mankind keeps as livestock an area of Africa and Germany combined is needed. And then there is the problem with pollution, "...the biggest problem in this respect are the methane gas emissions of the cows..." So wouldn't it be "wonderful" if we could produce animals or even human beings that directly absorb the "life-giving" cosmic energies that via the Sun, our plants (photosynthesis), and animals eating these plants animate our bodies? The Guardian newspaper tells us that "a quarter of world's population today suffers from malnutrition, 1 billion people are chronically hungry..." And that is only today. In years to come this will be even more worrying. In addition – would a world with less kills – not be a much more peaceful world ? I, too, think that a more spiritual view is needed for the survival of our world. And yes, the Chinese / Japanese discovery of a different (more spiritual - less materialistic) science will lead us to a different understanding of human and universal life: I too, thought of that, when writing the article … Salome, Bill PS Can a human - sometimes - when he is in complete harmony with the "loving spirit of the universe" – “directly absorb universal energies” ? No, not only some Indian yogis (Prahlat Jani) … I can vividly remember when I fell in love the first time - I did not need or want to eat - for days... | ||
Tat_tvam_asi Member Post Number: 1017 Registered: 04-2011 |
Corey, I do not think that the Plejaren or Reticulum androids have any circuitry at all: Quetzal mentions in CR 215 that they have a bio-organic consciousness (which is capable of learning just as a normal human consciousness), that they were "bred" by the Reticulum people and carry out research of foreign star systems. At the beginning of CR 215 Quetzal mentions the importance of not rejecting gene technologies and I think that these androids are "bred" based on their advanced knowledge of gene-technologies. CR 215:95 " All this, however, couldn’t be recognized by all the doctors, surgeons, and pathologists, etc. in the American secret stations, where the crashed android beings were taken." I would read this as "they could not see that the Roswell androids were androids at all" (which they certainly would if the saw any circuitry). To my knowledge Col. Corso's book ("The Day after Roswell") does not mention such circuitry, either. There are not 3 races of foreign ETs in our skies: They may administer the 3 different parts of our world but are of the same race. I still believe that the Reticulum androids may be the "ones": They were circling Earth in the past - incl. the Roswell times (but I think as well long before) - as they would today. But this is, of course, my own conclusion. It could be wrong. Salome, Bill | ||
Aristea New member Post Number: 1 Registered: 06-2019 |
I have seen a video which seemed authentic from Area 51. There was a team of doctors working on dissecting a body of one of those little grey androids. They actually peeled back the covering from an eye and underneath that covering was machinery, something mechanical. Now, this video was in black and white and I have only seen it once and couldn't find it again, so I can't verify its authenticity. However, it seemed quite real. | ||
Corey Member Post Number: 533 Registered: 10-2016 |
Hi Bill, I did not imply that the 3 were not a singularity. Salome, Corey Müske. -"Kelch der Wahrheit"/"Goblet of the Truth" ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- ----- 22:08: " Werdet ihr Menschen vom Unglück verfolgt und könnt ihr euer Leben nicht so harmonisch gestalten, wie ihr das gerne möchtet, dann vermögt ihr dies zu ändern, wenn ihr euch dem Einklang der kosmischen Ordnung und damit den schöpferischen Gesetzen und Geboten zuwendet und sie befolgt." 22:08: "If you human beings are pursued by the unfortune and are unable to form your lives as harmoniously as you would like, then you are able to change this if you turn to the consonance of the cosmic regulation and therefore to the creational laws and recommendations, and follow them." | ||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 2913 Registered: 12-1999 |
Can we please steer this conversation back towards the environment...Thanks | ||
Tat_tvam_asi Member Post Number: 1018 Registered: 04-2011 |
The following is a short summary of some segments of the very large (Jan 1,2019) CR 714 *) They further explain the dangers associated with the “food production for an overpopulated planet” … According to Plejaren calculations the sum total of processes to cultivate land for planting agricultural products, the processes to do the harvesting and to transport and process the harvested fruit and vegetables and the processes to dispose of the food waste – all these processes together create 33 % of Earth’s total GH gas emissions. A great part of this pollution is related to the human meat production: To supply the food for the livestock (cows, chickens, pigs etc) that humans consume an area **) of ca 31 million square km (about the size of Africa and Germany combined) is needed. Billy emphasizes that the raising of cattle (for beef and milk production) creates “gigantic” amounts of methane gases. This, in addition to the methane released as a result of global warming…” (Methane that rises from the soil of northern areas which were frozen for millennia and also from the bedrock of high mountains and grounds) He then mentions the danger of the enormous amount of plastic bags etc. that are used and end up at the garbage dump. They not only will – after being grinded down by wind and waves - pollute the rivers, lakes and oceans and the fish in them – they will, after being grinded and pulverized into microscopic particles, get airborne and become particles that humans and land animals breathe in. And if that health hazard was not already very, very harmful – as humans use more and more hazardous fertilizers and very poisonous weed killers - some of the airborne microscopic plastic particles will as well absorb and carry some of the huge amounts of poisons that farmers use causing – after being breathed in - cancers in the (human/animal) bodies… ------------------------------------------------------------------------ *) On Jan 1 Ptaah usually tells Billy by how much our world population has increased. Billy often uses this information to remind Earth humans of the negative effects of the rapidly increasing overpopulation (as e.g. the GHG emissions and pollution related to the food production mentioned in this article) **) This is only the area needed for the food of domestic animals. It does not include the area needed for the animals themselves. It does not include the area needed to produce the food for humans. It does not include the area humans need for dwellings, factories etc | ||
Patm Member Post Number: 686 Registered: 07-2006 |
@Aristea The Plejaren Florena explained during the 253rd contact that the Ray Santilli film was an infamous falsification. See: https://creationaltruth.org/FIGU/UFOlogy/Roswell Salome PatM | ||
Justsayno Member Post Number: 851 Registered: 10-2009 |
Hi Hugo that's very interesting. How did you shield your smart meter and wifi, if you don't mind me asking? Hi Aristea sometimes the simplest answer is the correct one. I also wanted to ask you about your mother's "negativity" but see that Melissa asked it. Look up static electricity and how it works with medical equipment. There are still places where cell phones don't work at all. A lot of times people seek a "supernatural" answer for things that are normal. Good, better, best. May you never rest, until your good is better, and your better best. | ||
Hugo Member Post Number: 693 Registered: 04-2015 |
Justsayno, I shielded them both with layers of grounded aluminum foil. It's got to be grounded though. The inside wall opposite the smart meter is completely covered with foil. I then put a large book shelf over it so it is not so unsightly. And the wifi router I used a shoe box with layers of aluminum foil. The open side of box is facing away from my bedroom and lounge room. Both of these appeared to help me lots because my headaches while sleeping have reduced substantially. There are many videos on Youtube explaining how to do it, showing the radiation before and after. | ||
Justsayno Member Post Number: 853 Registered: 10-2009 |
Thanks Hugo, I appreciate that. Hi Aristea if you check out that picture of Billy burning static electricity you'll find out why it was done. Good, better, best. May you never rest, until your good is better, and your better best. | ||
Hugo Member Post Number: 694 Registered: 04-2015 |
Scott, can I post this here because it is somewhat related to Consciousness Abilities/Powers, albeit, how to look after them from electromagnetic waves and radiation. Justsayno, if you do it make sure you ground the foil to earth or else it won't work properly and make act as a sail. See photos of how I did it. The smart meter is directly behind book shelf. Notice the foil across whole wall behind it -  1. notice the 3 wires being grounded to metal poles in earth under house 2. All my Meier books, videos, ect. 3. GOT 4. Way to live book that I am currently reading put close to where I sleep 5. my $300 Trifield meter I bought to monitor 3 forms of electromagnetic waves. 6. My bed.  1. wifi modem inside 2. wires grounding to earth Btw, this room is the dining room which never gets used.  behind box -  | ||
Michael_horn Member Post Number: 1404 Registered: 07-2009 |
The Now Unstoppable Environmental Destruction https://theyflyblog.com/?p=7964 Only the most stubborn and willfully ignorant won’t acknowledge the crisis | ||
Hugo Member Post Number: 709 Registered: 04-2015 |
Scott/Robyn, I just noticed my photo post was posted here from last month. When I originally posted it and saw it not get posted I assumed it got rejected for being off topic. Ah, I see now rather then just moving my post to here you went to the trouble of moving the whole discussion between Justsayno and I to this section. Thanks! | ||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 2931 Registered: 12-1999 |
Your Welcome Hugo, even though I don't remember moving it  |
