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Hugo
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Post Number: 781
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Posted on Wednesday, January 08, 2020 - 01:31 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I been watching some overseas news coverage on our fires. They all failed to mention that most of the fires were deliberately lit by arsonists. I guess because it doesn't fit their climate change agenda.
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Hugo
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Posted on Wednesday, January 08, 2020 - 01:34 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

- forgot to add that even our news networks were guilty of this, but at least they did briefly mention it sometimes.
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Tat_tvam_asi
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Posted on Friday, January 10, 2020 - 09:39 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Hugo,

In our time it is hard to find the truth …

This is what today's ABC (Australian Broadcasting Corporation - like BBC in England) report suggests:
- That the bushfire emergencies were exploited on social media which were "amplifying unproven suggestions".
- In reality, by far, most fires had natural causes (mostly through lightning, tree falling on power lines etc.) - e.g. only 1 % of fires in the state of New South Wales (even less in Victoria) were caused by arsonists.

Salome, Bill
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Hugo
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Post Number: 785
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Posted on Friday, January 10, 2020 - 10:32 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Tat_tvam_asi,

That's right, it's all a big lie.

Their own news reports from around the country for the past several months prove it's all a big lie.

Police charged -

72 people in NSW
98 in Queensland so far

I can't post the direct link but people can fill in the rest and see the proof on this detailed page with all their news head lines from past several months. We are experiencing an arson crisis is the main cause.

thedailychrenk.com/2020/01/03/australias-arson-crisis/
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Felinity
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Post Number: 25
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Posted on Saturday, January 11, 2020 - 02:05 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

My question about the Australian fires is where are the planes that can dump water over the land? Also, don't military planes have a water hose? I've seen video of the fires being really close to a water source.

Take Care Everyone,
Belinda
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Hugo
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Post Number: 786
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Posted on Saturday, January 11, 2020 - 04:23 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Felinity,

We do have fire planes and helicopters but because Australia's land mass is so large with so little population compared to other nations of similar size we are never going to have enough of them as well as have enough country fire fighters too.
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Tat_tvam_asi
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Post Number: 1146
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Posted on Tuesday, January 14, 2020 - 07:10 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Wow Hugo – these Australian bushfire conditions are really rough!

I mean - the tennis players in Melbourne (Australian Open Pre-Matches): One player retiring after collapsing because of breathing difficulties. Many players complaining and wondering why they should play on a day when the Melbourne City Council asks residents to stay indoors, keep the windows shut and the pets inside… There really should be a monitor of the air quality and air-temperature added to the electronic displays of the game status (one that sounds an alarm when a critical point is reached) ...
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Hugo
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Post Number: 790
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Posted on Tuesday, January 14, 2020 - 03:51 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Tat_tvam_asi,

For about a month now Melbourne has been blanketed in a thick haze a smoke. It looks like thick morning fog, only it's not fog but smoke that is constantly there. Not good. Bush fires don't spontaneously start regardless of how dry or hot it is, unless there are lightning strikes or power line electrical fires which there was few, if any. The main culprit of our fires are human fire bugs and not climate change as all the mainstream medias report.
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Newinitiation
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Posted on Tuesday, January 14, 2020 - 10:32 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I don't want to sound conspiratorial and mouth off some outlandish and unsubstantiated claims but what if the fires were started by other means other than the usual means?

Case in point why now and why not before when our winter was as warm as it has ever been with dry conditions prevailing throughout that season?

There are satellite ray and directed energy weapons platform that needs testing at crucial time of the season so that the plausible deniability guarantees that nobody questions the not so obvious.

Various black budget secret access program based weapons research and testing must be done in real world scenario.

Who said it had to be from the USA.
Why not China as they too have this technology.
Why wouldn't they try to weaken the Australia's dominance in the Asia pacific region thereby gaining some geostrategic advantage seeing as Australia has been quite vocal lately in terms of anti Chinese rhetoric.

Why wouldn't China try to economically and environmentally weaken Australia through this strategy so that it is overwhelmed in dealing with this crisis that it needs to pile on more debt to fund the relief aid.

Why wouldn't China feel a little betrayed by Australia lately by the anti Chinese rhetoric seeing as the prosperity experienced by this nation was mainly due to China buying Australian good especially mining resources.

Chinese government may have decided to pay Australia back with dividends and said to themselves 'we need to teach these ungrateful and recalcitrant piece of white convict trash a lesson'

Who might Australia borrow money from other than the Chinese who will make Australia a debt slave beholden to their cause even more thereby gaining more political clout over this nation who the Chinese are taking over economically and in the process allowing more of Australia's land and assets to be purchased and controlled by the Chinese government who had definitely strategized that the next war will be over resources.

Why are the Australian farmers the one's the most effected by not only the naturally caused drought but also this colossal bushfire event?
Well geographically it cannot be otherwise as they live in rural areas that in surrounded by grass and trees that is fuel for fire but more to the point as the farmers are compromised the more this nation's bread basket is diminished.
What does food represent.
Life and survival
What needs to happen if food supply is diminished?
Import.
Where does most of the Australia's import come from?
China
Why?
Because it's still economically viable and cheap to import foodstuff and other products from China as opposed to other nations besides this nation being locked into trade deals with China.
What does this represent?
Dependency.
On who?
China.
What is the cause and effect?
Whichever way you look at it, it represents power for China and diminishing power for the dependent nation who is still one of USA's closest allies
So what now from here?
More of the same but at an accelerated pace where the Chinese diaspora will only increase for Australia and the monied class where this nation and the whole of the Asia pacific region will now be more dominated by China with its other intended and unintended consequences.

Depending on how Australia reacts to China on political front will have a bearing on how severe our next bushfire is going to be come same time next year.

Australia is stuck in between a rock and a hard place.
It is facing a predicament of whether to choose dad over mum or mum over dad.
It is imperative for Australia to do all it can for mum and dad not to get a divorce thereby staving off the next great fire.
To do this it needs other relatives and family from EU, Russia, Israel, Japan and the Vatican coming together and sorting out the family feud.
Not easy.

Matt lee}
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Bianca
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Posted on Wednesday, January 15, 2020 - 03:22 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hugo,
THis guy has not given any sources so that I/we can double check the facts, therefore I cant accept his opinion. WHy should I follow? Think for yourself!
Its madness all those articles people put out there just so they can feel important, like on FB and Instagram. It is clearly a Waste of brain space.
…Everything is in One, and One is in all, and everything is there in this infinite Creation for every single being, and the single being is there for the whole extensive All.
OM
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Bianca
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Posted on Wednesday, January 15, 2020 - 03:50 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

HI Matt,
I had similar thoughts along your lines too. I was in Tasmania last April and drove for about 15 minutes in a fire ravaged national park, it was awfully eerie. I wouldnt be too wrong but only guessing that some 'meddling' has been deployed.
Something is not right.
But with all the bad news on tv and radio, I came to a conclusion that aust. must be made to suffer before it can rebuild. I am making a connection and see how our PM and all previous leaders who are connected to this christian cult group called Hillsong from Sydney, are obeying a religious mamon figure who will deliver them from evil. But evil has to happen first as according to the old prophecy, and so all the fires around us are possibly those crazy ideas that have materialsed for them before they will be 'saved".
Its a crazy world out there, people are going crazy not knowing who is telling the truth. Well, this in fact, what Billy has mentioned how people will loose their ways.
At the end of it all, those in the Bilderberg group are probably having a good laugh at us all... at our primitive ways of thinking.
…Everything is in One, and One is in all, and everything is there in this infinite Creation for every single being, and the single being is there for the whole extensive All.
OM
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Aristea
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Posted on Wednesday, January 15, 2020 - 09:07 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The fires in Australia are not that unusual. What is unusual is the long period of dry weather that has made the environment super dry and combustible. Once a fire gets going and fanned by the wind, there's little that will get in its way except a very heavy rainstorm! Most likely Australia has burned this way in the past, but we weren't around to witness it. The Eucalyptus trees are particularly combustible. . . their sap literally explodes when it heats up. . . .and this adds to the flammability of the forests.

I wouldn't add to the conspiracy theories, suggesting that anyone is employing DEW weapons to set the country on fire. I think this approach is very reckless and damaging to the reality of what is going on everywhere in our world today. The climate IS getting warmer and drier in many places. While some places are experiencing unusual cold temperatures, the TREND is toward more heat. No one in their right mind can argue this point, as it is well documented. The debate is whether the climate is warming due to increased activity of our sun, or whether all our carbon-based activities are contributing to the heat catastrophe. Perhaps both are responsible. Also, we shouldn't discourage the climate activists, like Greta Thunberg, from raising the alarm. The heat alarm needs to be sounded, NOW. Perhaps it's already too late to do anything constructive to remedy the situation, I don't know.

Australia is a symptom of a climate catastrophe on this planet, and more symptoms will appear. . . it's only a matter of time. Fires in Korea, fires in India, fires in Canada's Arctic circle, fires in Siberia, fires in Greece and Spain, fires in the Amazon, fires in America. . . .
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Hugo
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Posted on Wednesday, January 15, 2020 - 02:30 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Bianca, he did give sources for each one. Just click on the date of each one.
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Michael_horn
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Posted on Wednesday, January 15, 2020 - 04:07 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Record-breaking Global Warming…as Predicted by Billy Meier

https://theyflyblog.com/?p=8591

First the Pentagon, now NASA and NOAA confirm Meier's warnings of man-made climate destruction
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Bianca
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Posted on Wednesday, January 15, 2020 - 07:59 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hugo, in the link that he provides does not show me who he is, why? how can I be sure that he got his fact check right?

I only heard of one incident and the guy was caught straight away, but no doubt there are more but I find it hard to accept that such high number of arsonists was calculated. No one will give us statistics because they cannot accept that the earth is getting hotter and hotter and we are to blame.
…Everything is in One, and One is in all, and everything is there in this infinite Creation for every single being, and the single being is there for the whole extensive All.
OM
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Kenneth
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Posted on Wednesday, January 15, 2020 - 10:21 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Based on Billy's and the Plejaren's impeccable track record, I trust their expertise. In this article someone is desperately trying to discredit what we have been informed by much more intelligent and wiser scientists than the Earthling scientists.

In an article titled, “Top Secret Report Reveals Major Cover-up. . . Scientist Confesses: Global Warming a $22 Billion Scam.”

Another title: "Scientist Attacked for Exposing ‘Global Warming Lie".

So, why would the powers to be go to all this trouble when they know what is truly going to happen?

According to this article:

Lie No.1: The World is Getting Hotter…

Lie No.2: The Oceans Are Getting Warmer…

Lie No.3: Scientists Agree – Humans are Causing ‘Global Warming’ Fast!…

THIS AVERSE ANTAGONISTIC “GLOBAL WARMING” ARTICLE STAND OUT TO BE A WELL-FUNDED LIE.

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Regarding global warming, aka climate change, aka climate destruction; verified for myself in 2012 by personally diving on the Great Barrier Reef (GBR) off the coast of Queensland, Australia that the GBR is dying off due to warmer ocean currents. Only included pictures of myself to prove that I was actually there taking the pictures.





Picture showing the GBR coral (white portion) has died due to warmer ocean currents. This was also confirmed by the marine biologists on board the catamaran.

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Also verified for myself in 2016 that the Juneau and Hubbard glaciers, two of many in Alaska have drastically retreated due to climate change also called global warming!



Where this boat is located used to be glacier. . .



Distance from Great Barrier Reef in the Indian Ocean to Hubbard Glacier in the Pacific is approximately 6,750 miles (10,861 km).



Also of interest is the picture of the water level in the Hoover Dam between Arizona and Nevada; the white ring just above the water identifies the water level that has slowly dropped causing the white evaporation ring. Officials told me, if the water level drops any lower, the power generating station will have to be shut down. This is not only due to warmer temperatures, causing more evaporation, but also lack of rainfall.



Kenneth
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Newinitiation
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Posted on Wednesday, January 15, 2020 - 11:07 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yeah Bianca I too feel that there is something not quite right about these catastrophic bushfires we are having at the moment compared to the ones we had previously and from my conclusions there is definitely foul play here.

Have you checked out your fires near me app today?
Baffling how so many fires can light up in so many states all at once at the same time as if its co ordinated along the coastal corridor like the last Californian fires.

Matt lee
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Newinitiation
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Posted on Wednesday, January 15, 2020 - 11:21 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Aristea I think that this seasons bushfires are definitely out of the ordinary and don't follow a certain pattern like what we had in the last decade and a half.
Of course as you've mentioned they are all contributing factors but if you check out Judy D Wood's where did the towers go and how this massive hurricane on 911 was abruptly dissipated before it was supposed to hit New York and Billy's info from bulletin about HARRP you can begin to understand the probabilities with possibilities of an event being controlled-staged with technology like our bushfires.
In hindsight I did feel a different kind of heat before the massive fires began as if I was being cooked from the inside when the rapid heat came in rather than just normal humidified heat during the fire season.
Do you live in Australia and have you directly experienced the fires and its aftermath Aristea?
Please share your experience here if you don't mind.
Thanks

Matt lee
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Cpl
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Posted on Thursday, January 16, 2020 - 12:30 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

A look at MH's blog of today or yesterday shows Billy prophesied big increases in arson in Europe and other places at a time when huge forest fires burn.

An Aussie friend I know says most of these fires seem to be lit by volunteer firemen who are arsonists. I can't vouch for the accuracy of such things, but it does make one wonder if the craziness of humanity is ramping up.
Chris

Use fully to the best both heart and head and never lose either.
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Hugo
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Posted on Thursday, January 16, 2020 - 01:16 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Bianca, he does not have to reveal who he is, nor is it important here, because the evidence he points to speaks for itself. Each "date" listed on that page is a link to a mainstream news website/article showing police arrests on arsonists over past 3 months. Did you click on each date to see the proof that all that number of people were indeed arrested for arson?

One can only imagine how many were not caught. From bottom of that page -


There are no conspiracies here. Though arson has been tried and called for before as a tool of terror, the Australian fires seem to result from the actions of unconnected individuals who are either disturbed or reckless. This is nothing new; as ecological criminologist Paul Read wrote back in November:

Arson, mischief and recklessness: 87 per cent of fires are man-made

"A 2015 satellite analysis of 113,000 fires from 1997-2009 confirmed what we had known for some time – 40 per cent of fires are deliberately lit, another 47 per cent accidental. This generally matches previous data published a decade earlier that about half of all fires were suspected or deliberate arson, and 37 per cent accidental. Combined, they reach the same conclusion: 87 per cent are man-made…
If I had to guess, I’d say about 10,000 arsonists lurk from the top of Queensland to the southern-most tip of Victoria, but not all are active and some light fires during winter. The most dangerous light fires on the hottest days, generally closer to communities and during other blazes, suggesting more malicious motives. Only a tiny minority will gaze with wonder at the destruction they have wrought, deeply fascinated and empowered. Others get caught up with the excitement of chaos and behave like impulsive idiots.
As for children, they are not always malicious. Children and youths follow the age-crime curve where delinquency peaks in their late teens. Fire is just one of many misbehaviours. The great majority grow out of it. Four overlapping subgroups include: accidental fire-play getting out of control; victims of child abuse – including sexual abuse – and neglect; children with autism and developmental disorders; and conduct disorder from a younger age, which can be genuinely dangerous."
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Tat_tvam_asi
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Posted on Thursday, January 16, 2020 - 05:48 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

“...Blinded by a delusional belief .. mankind … is leading the climate towards a collapse” *)

I do agree that our torrid times are very unpredictable and brutal. That 'intrigues' and 'fake news' seem to be the 'new normal'.
So yes, one may easily think of 'conspiracies' to explain the excesses - even nature's excesses - in our world.

But I would think that the excessive fires in Australia and other parts of the world are not lit by "other countries" but nature holding a mirror in front of us - “Stop what you are doing now - or face disaster!”.
But nature's agony will hardly be understood.
Not even more widespread rolling fires – worldwide - will lead world’s scientists to see the real cause which drives our planet’s “climate destruction” **).
Ptaah, who, so it seems, knows what climate changes our planet will witness (from his father’s records) – his words suggest that be it pride, support of delusional beliefs, lack of knowledge and/or courage, mankind’s “band aid solutions” will never address the real cause – overpopulation - before it is too late:
Desperate but wrong measures may be taken …. ***)

If Ptaah really knows what is to happen to our planet - how would you interpret his
“...blinded by a delusional belief .. mankind … is leading the climate towards a collapse” *)

Salome, Bill

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*) Ptaah to Billy / CR 723 Oct 3, 2019 (long CR – not yet translated)
**) Billy advises in the latest ZZ that this expression should be used (we have long passed the stage of “climate change”)
***) The prophecies and predictions of CR 251 we discussed last year - they mention that, following the discovery of the true value of Pi, the possible next event is a “climate weapons” that may cause a deep freeze of our planet:
IF THIS EVENT IS TO HAPPEN ^) IT MAY HAPPEN IN OUR TIME
http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/14/17284.html#POST86211

^) The events in CR 251 are either predictions (which certainly happens) or a prophecies (which can be prevented if mankind changes its ways). Billy's explanation why he chooses not tell which events must happen:
http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/863/16244.html#POST85659
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Msmichelle
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Posted on Thursday, January 16, 2020 - 06:49 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I think the island of Philippines will also experience the effects soon due to their delusions, because it appears that island is filled with young people! Kids running, playing and totally unaware of the upcoming disasters due to rapid overpopulation and rising sea levels
MsMichelle (sending peace and love to all)
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Msmichelle
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I'm sure we all know, we have no shortages of "brilliant idiots", meaning, the scientist have failed us. There are no more warnings, the damage is done, meaning, cities, towns, countries, are going to be destroyed in one fashion or another, meaning, you may not have time to do anything but escape for your life. The town of "Paradise" in California was destroyed, due to "man-made" and "climate". From now on, it'll be either "man-made" (wars, etc) or climate destruction (fires, floods, etc) due to overpopulation. We are in a bowl meant to hold only 500 million people, soon, due to deterioration, matter (infrastructure) will break down, right? The Contact Reports are clear, blunt, straight to the point especially on accuracy. Some people want to blame and expect the "government" to take actions, and "fix" the problem, personally, I call that "fatal stubbornness".
MsMichelle (sending peace and love to all)

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