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Kenneth
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Post Number: 1089
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Thursday, January 16, 2020 - 01:37 pm: | 
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Msmichelle,
I agree with you; I also spent some time in the Philippines, it is crazy over populated. Being that this is an archipelagic country in Southeast Asia, climate destruction will be an issue.
A lot of low elevations there; 33 ft. (10 m) above sea level, but also many mountain ranges 5,900 ft. (1,800 m) high where mountain people (Igorot's) live, that are not too friendly to outsiders, meaning other Philippine people as well, from my experience.
In my Opinion; when things get real bad, it will be the Igorot's that will most likely survive; very tough and live of the land.
 
Some stock photo's
Kenneth |
Newinitiation
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Post Number: 2157
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, January 16, 2020 - 09:07 pm: |
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Who said an arsonist had to be nut with a lighter and a jerry can full of petrol and a roll of toilet paper in the woods getting off on things burning up?
There are technologies in the black domain where you can remotely burn someone to death without any visible sign of direct human intervention.
Its infinitely more easier to burn a forest.
Matt lee |
Tat_tvam_asi
Member
Post Number: 1150
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Friday, January 17, 2020 - 02:46 am: |
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>>> Future (Oxygen) Collapse ? <<<
Re. https://forum.figu.org/us/messages/14/17526.html#POST88326
It may well be that the "climate collapse" Ptaah was hinting at is a future oxygen and atmospheric collapse – due to the changing climate *) … This would follow as well from the similarities between Earth and Akart **):
1. Akart was a very Earth-like planet in size.
2. It suffered from excessive overpopulation (population 1975: 23 billion – 2007: 34 billion)
3. Its people were addicted to the material
Similar causes will produce similar effects:
In CR 476 ***) and 481 ****), both, Billy and Ptaah, tell us that a similar fate may be in store for our planet.
There is no sign that mankind will any time soon recognize / address the overpopulation danger or give up its delusions and consumption rushes.
So, in Ptaah’s words: It is much more likely that learning will only occur after great suffering.
This danger may not be too far off. *****)
Salome, Bill
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*) The fish in our heated oceans are the first to suffer from a lack of oxygen
http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/12/14824.html#POST78617
(And this creates a chain reaction in our food chain … e.g. penguins dying because there are not enough fish)
http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/14/16322.html#POST85317
**) CR 31:1036-1058 http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_031
http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/14/13826.html#POST76270
http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/14/13826.html#POST76290
***) CR476:75-83 - http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_476
****) CR 481 (middle to end of CR) http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_481
*****) In 2020 world’s population is appr. 9 billion.
If we estimate it to grow at the constant rate of 110 million per year, it would take ca. 127 years until Earth's population reaches 23 billion, i.e. the state Akart was at in 1975 and that, according to Ptaah, it only took another 32 years before almost all the 34 billlion Akartians died due to an oxygen collapse.
If the same were to happen on our planet (no wars / epidemics etc) we would be on our way to an oxygen collapse in (127 + 32 =) 159 years, i.e. (2020 + 157 =) in 2179 AC
But the annual increase of Earth humans accelerates each year, so it should happen much earlier than that. |
Newinitiation
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Post Number: 2159
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Friday, January 17, 2020 - 06:43 am: |
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Kenneth you said 'So, why would the powers to be go to all this trouble when they know what is truly going to happen?
As you know entities like the Koch industries is nortorious for funding global warming denial campaigns and ofcourse the big oil and nuclear industry pays off climate scientists to fudge their report in favour of their industries.
Global warming is bad for business especially the fossil fuel and nuclear industry that's why these competing powers-that-be interests put out these misinformation as long as there is still oil underground to profit out of and nuclear power stations to build.
These simpletons don't give a hoots what the environmental and human cost is as long as they can wringe a profit out of it.
There are sophisticated energy generating technologies sitting in the back shelf for decades which could've made the oil industry obsolete so imagine how many Stanley Meyers' of this world was bought off, threatened, suicided, incarcerated on trumped up charges, banckrupted, Assangified, character assassinated, murdered, sabotaged, patents and copyrights witheld citing national security and research grants and funds deliberately witheld.
The treatment of Julian Assange is a prime example of using him as an example and a warning to all other potential whistleblowers, whomever they may be and in whatever industries they work in, to shut the hell up and do as they are told to tow the party line so that business-as-usual can flow on with minimum interuptions.
Imagine what these middle rung day to day management from these industries know but never dare to say about the enormous pollution and the severe health impacts these earth cannabalizing industries generate and are doing to all life on planet earth.
The human and environmental cost would be staggering if you could quantify and qualify it all.
Matt lee |
Kenneth
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Post Number: 1089
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Friday, January 17, 2020 - 11:27 am: |
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Hi Matt,
Of course I knew the answer to the phrase of, “So, why would the powers to be go to all this trouble when they know what is truly going to happen?” This was meant to be a metaphorical statement or phrase to describe something as if it was something else to stimulate thinking and action. Thank you for your input.
Kenneth |
Cpl
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Post Number: 1201
Registered: 08-2004
| | Posted on Friday, January 17, 2020 - 08:28 pm: |
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Matt, you may well be right that the nuclear industry doesn't really care about global warming, but they do not oppose the issue. Rather they use it, claiming that nuclear power is environmentally friendly and reduces carbon emissions, which, of course, many buy.
Chris
Use fully to the best both heart and head and never lose either.
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Newinitiation
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Post Number: 2160
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Friday, January 17, 2020 - 08:36 pm: |
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Hi Kenneth I know I know 'as you know'
The emphasizing of the obvious wasn't meant for your audience and those in the know but something worth repeating over and over again for the external guest readership just passing through who are still stuck thinking that genuine conspiracies don't exist.
Cheers
Matt lee |
Bianca
Member
Post Number: 162
Registered: 03-2009
| | Posted on Friday, January 17, 2020 - 10:41 pm: |
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I cannot recall where but I read in Billys contact reports how in the future there will 'agricultural wars', and currently we can see what has happened in Australia. I will hypothesise and say that 'sparks can fly' and distances are no objection when weaponised advanced technologies have existed for at least a century. I keep thinking how we the general public know so very little about the incredibly advanced technologies and we can not/ must not have them.
But the other side of the coin is more promising and that is - how lucky are we here that we know Billy's spirit teachings. It is so easy to fall of guard and follow the bad/negative stuff out there, therefore if I didn't practice my daily affirmations I would be a sad and depressed person because the psyche is easily drowned if one is not on guard all day every day.
Salome
…Everything is in One, and One is in all, and everything is there in this infinite Creation for every single being, and the single being is there for the whole extensive All.
OM
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Newinitiation
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Post Number: 2161
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, January 18, 2020 - 02:02 am: |
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Actually your statement is more in line with the truth than mine Chris as there is a recent resurgence of narrative on nuclear energy being pushed by nuclear lobbyists and the ignoramuses who've jumped on the nuclear bandwagon on the merits of this energy source citing climate change and global warming.
I hear it on the radio a lot these days but either way as everyone here knows what we, the consumers and recipients of information and news, get is mostly prepackaged propaganda and the byproduct of agenda filled maneuvering funded by big business with special interests trying to dictate a certain reality through soft mind control and influencing.
Some of my collegues are parroting the nuclear narrative and are brainwashed into thinking that its a good idea gees these poor buggers they've no idea that they've been been thought raped and thought molested.
Matt lee |
Aristea
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Post Number: 32
Registered: 06-2019
| | Posted on Saturday, January 18, 2020 - 07:22 am: |
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The case of Julian Assange shows us what can happen to anybody who challenges the global elites. Prisoner in the Ecuadorian Embassy for many years, he is now likely to rot in the British and American legal systems and will never see the free light of day again in his lifetime! Where are all the ones who profited from his information? The creeps have all abandoned him and gone into hiding. His old buddy-in-arms, Edward Snowden is still living in Russia, and will probably never get out of there again in his lifetime either. Message from earth-human to the Plejaren might be: "We would be happy to work to effect change on planet earth, but we don't want to end up spending the rest of our lives in prison, nor do we want to be mutilated or murdered in order to effect such 'changes'". Until more people support such ones as Julian and Edward, it is unlikely that any more 'challengers' to the status-quo are going to stick their necks out and challenge the public executioners. There are many who might help, but few who will jeapordize their family safety and their working life (work which most of us need in order to live) in order to do so. Jmmanuel and his very public and historic crucifixion is a good reminder to all, what can happen to anybody who takes on the existing political structure. . . . . Whether you want to call him "Jesus Christ" or not, the fact remains that a great and beautiful Plejaren soul was nailed to a horrible cross in Jerusalem 2000 years ago, for challenging the status quo.
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Msmichelle
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Post Number: 626
Registered: 02-2010
| | Posted on Saturday, January 18, 2020 - 10:18 am: |
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Aristea, I agree, it's definitely life threatening to take on the "status quo", because, personally, the damage is already done, meaning, we've already passed the threshold of effective change during our lifetime, therefore, if anyone does "step it up", due to our overpopulation, they'll definitely get "drowned out" or have a mystery illness, etc. I sense a "lone wolf" would destroy such effects due to their delusions and brain washing, before the "government" does anything to an well-meaning endeavor.
I think this is an excellent opportunity, if you're studying the spiritual teaching, to personally witnesses or have a window seat to the insanity inflicted on the environment and strengthen your consciousness and know these "events" are stored forever for future reference once we "travel" to other planets.
MsMichelle (sending peace and love to all)
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Msmichelle
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Post Number: 627
Registered: 02-2010
| | Posted on Saturday, January 18, 2020 - 10:47 am: |
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Bill, since the destruction of "Akart", I wonder if this planet can be "saved"? meaning, can humans resume life on this planet, even though humans were destroyed due to lack of oxygen?
MsMichelle (sending peace and love to all)
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Kenneth
Member
Post Number: 1090
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Saturday, January 18, 2020 - 01:26 pm: |
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Hi Tat_tvam_asi, (Bill)
Excellent post 1150. Based on when the Akart folks died due to their atmospheric collapse, their spiritform’s may be incarnating on Earth now? Hopefully that knowledge in their storage banks or CCB, (Comprehensive Consciousness Block) will help us Earthlings to not repeat the same?
Kenneth |
Scott
Moderator
Post Number: 2996
Registered: 12-1999
| | Posted on Saturday, January 18, 2020 - 02:17 pm: |
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MsMichelle,
Not speaking for Bill, I think it would depend on the level of atmospheric destruction...not all the Akartians died, but a vast majority did...and from what the info suggests this was due to a very rapid increase in the population due to a mass migration back to the planet....but it is entirely possible this could occur here if the population reaches a critical level... |
Kenneth
Member
Post Number: 1091
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Saturday, January 18, 2020 - 03:27 pm: |
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Msmichelle,
Excellent Idea about revitalizing planet Akart! One would think that there would be more resources on Akart to terraform the planet back to life over time, than on Mars? Nevertheless, this may not happen until we Earthlings get our act together (spiritually?) so that Earthlings will be able to develop technology to travel light years in a very short time.
Kenneth |
Cpl
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Post Number: 1202
Registered: 08-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, January 18, 2020 - 07:25 pm: |
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Kenneth, I am not sure that the Akarts (Akarthians?) learnt their lesson. I don't recall reading that they did. They certainly didn't learn enough to present their planet's decimation. So if they incarnated on Earth they might just push Earth over the edge as they did their planet. Since the Earth has now reached capacity, however, with no new life forms bring created here, IMO they may just be wandering around the universe trying to find a planet on which to incarnate, there being no room at this particular Inn.
Chris
Use fully to the best both heart and head and never lose either.
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Cpl
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Post Number: 1203
Registered: 08-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, January 18, 2020 - 07:30 pm: |
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Msmichelle, I think we might be able to, but after we fix this planet. We need to prove we can rescue and look after our planet first before we go trying to resuscitate another light years away.
Chris
Use fully to the best both heart and head and never lose either.
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Eddieamartin
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Post Number: 1119
Registered: 08-2010
| | Posted on Saturday, January 18, 2020 - 07:56 pm: |
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Salome everyone. My thoughts regarding Global Warming.
Strength In Numbers.
If the majority of the pro-FIGU, were to suddenly be determined to study and gain the cognitions of creational regulation, the spiritual teaching, respectively the teaching of the truth, the teaching of the spirit, the teaching of the life, then there would be nothing to stop us from effectuating change.
Word Of Caution.
In the Goblet Of The Truth is a creational recommendation that says, we should not risk our lives, not even for the Truth, for nothing can be accomplished if we're dead. Wherein knowledge is power, the warnings (prophecies) are sufficient to provide the solutions and stimulate action... effective action.
Delusions and Foolishness.
In the book, Arahat Athersata (German/English)
Page 84:235. These are the signs of the times, for every new transition from a cosmic age into a new one awakens evil delusions and foolishness in irrationally-thinking life forms.
This is exactly what we are witnessing at this time. So there's only a need for self-empowerment and effective action.
Self-Empowerment and Effective Action.
See Arahat Athersata page 76:188-190.
188. The consciousness-based and spiritual powers make all things possible for the human being.
189. There are no boundaries set for him/her if he/she follows, within creational regulation, the laws and recommendations of the Creation and follows the truth of the spiritual form.
190. From the recognition and acknowledgement of the truth arise knowledge and wisdom, and from these, the unending consciousness-based power manifests itself.
Salome,
Eddie
In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says:
Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3)
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Cpl
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Post Number: 1204
Registered: 08-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, January 18, 2020 - 08:50 pm: |
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Two corrections to my post 1202: "present" should read "prevent" and "life forms" should read "spirit forms."
Chris
Use fully to the best both heart and head and never lose either.
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Tat_tvam_asi
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Post Number: 1152
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Sunday, January 19, 2020 - 12:26 am: |
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Hi Scott,
I think that, apart from the 116 millions (CR 478:80) which the Plejaren saved, all other Akartians (33.884 billion) perished:
"As a result all life was wiped out on that planet (Akart)." CR476:74 http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_476
Salome, Bill
Hi Ms Michelle,
I think your idea of resettling on Akart (earth-like, closest liveable planet to Earth) would be an excellent proposition. In addition their abandoned cities and factories would make the task of building up a new civilisation easier.
Main conditions:
1. Mankind is able to get there – plus:
2. The atmosphere has not been permanently destroyed (if all life has been wiped out, there may not be any oxygen left to breathe).
Salome, Bill
Hi Kenneth,
Your thought - spirit forms from Akart settling on Earth - would be logical:
It would make sense that a spirit form seeks an environment for rebirth that helps its holder to master the challenges he/she has still to overcome:
If Akartians settle on Earth they have the same 'materialism' and overpopulation problem to face that they have failed to learn on Akart. Earth may thus be a suitable environment to overcome the cause of their demise.
In addition, if mankind had (and takes up the chance) to re-settle on Akart, their Akartian spirit-forms could resettle on their home planet again.
Salome, Bill
FOOTNOTE
Interestingly the Akartian people had long wanted themselves to find a suitable other planet to live on.
Acc. to A. Berlet their leaders thought of resettling on Earth once this planet was destroyed after a nuclear war. He mentions that the Akartians told him that they had a means to get rid of nuclear radiation:
This may just be the knowledge that Earth people will need one day (e.g. climate destruction causing many accidents in nuclear power plants / pollution due to nuclear wars) to progress in their evolution. |
Tat_tvam_asi
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Post Number: 1154
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Sunday, January 19, 2020 - 03:40 am: |
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You are so right, Aristea!
To know the truth in our "fake news" world is one thing. To defend it, as we should, is another.
In CR 36:120-148 *) Ptaah tells Billy that the teaching of the spirit is hard. That it is very different to the language of everyday life.
The “truth language can never be offered in diplomatic form” … “diplomacy is to be equated with lies and deception”.
Like an iced surface – as it is uneven and rough we may find some discomfort but we know we will not slip.
But if it is polished and smooth - falls can no longer avoided.
We know that what Ptaah says is very true.
But to follow Ptaah’s guidance , to speak the truth we know in our heart, in our world, it makes one swim against the stream.
That is why so many "know" that lies, cunning and deception rule our world and why so few denounce it.
The consciousness and evolution of a prison planet **) has a different swinging wave.
We must as well stay clear of destruction - the many attempts on Billy’s life are testimony to that.
Salome, Bill
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http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_036
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http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/13/15104.html#POST80121 |
Felinity
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Post Number: 32
Registered: 09-2019
| | Posted on Sunday, January 19, 2020 - 04:28 am: |
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Akart is indeed a fascinating planet. If we Earthlings had our act together many centuries ago, we could have been friends with the Akart people. Did The High Council have Plejarens go there to share The Spiritual Teaching?
Nice to hear from you all,
Belinda |
Hugo
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Post Number: 793
Registered: 04-2015
| | Posted on Sunday, January 19, 2020 - 01:13 pm: |
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FOM website is currently down for me but I'm pretty sure planet Akart is in a different dimension to ours so we won't be able to go there until we have the technology to change dimensions. If so, in the future we will likely first travel to other planets before we find planet Akart.
Speaking of dimensions, do the spirit forms from planet (dead) Akart still travel here even if we sit in a different dimension? |
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