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Tat_tvam_asi
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Post Number: 1219
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Thursday, March 19, 2020 - 10:20 am: | 
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Billy was right yet again: In his latest information about the CV he stated that sadly the immune system of the Italians is more susceptible to the CV:
Acc. to today's news the no of Italians infected with the virus is 35,713 - Italy's death toll now stands at 2,978 (which is higher than China's) - 475 people died in just 1 day!
Truly a very sad day for Italy! |
Norm
Member
Post Number: 189
Registered: 12-2016
| | Posted on Thursday, March 19, 2020 - 03:04 pm: |
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Markv, I went back and re-read it, Thanks |
Hugo
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Post Number: 818
Registered: 04-2015
| | Posted on Thursday, March 19, 2020 - 06:12 pm: |
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I'm glad Australia (and New Zealand) closed it's borders today to all foreigners for 6 months. The benefits of living on an island. |
Scott
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Post Number: 3047
Registered: 12-1999
| | Posted on Thursday, March 19, 2020 - 06:44 pm: |
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Its seems like were all living on Islands now  ... |
Michael_horn
Member
Post Number: 1443
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Thursday, March 19, 2020 - 06:52 pm: |
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Remember to exercise too. For instance, here's an exercise in...futility:
https://youtu.be/nxr_orKYomg |
Newinitiation
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Post Number: 2246
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, March 19, 2020 - 08:37 pm: |
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Hi Aristea
A colleague of mind told me that this coronavirus pandemic was overblown as more people die of the flu than the coronavirus so what's the worry as you either get it or you don't.
This was last week when the toilet paper epidemic was at its climax and making the rounds in the news cycle.
I didn't correct him with the facts as he was entitled to his own opinion whether right or wrong.
Matt lee |
Newinitiation
Member
Post Number: 2247
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, March 19, 2020 - 08:54 pm: |
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If its the treasure Island count me in fellas as I am sick and tired of the series 'Lost' but Tom Hanks might have a good case to think otherwise as he may just regret getting off that Island to end up in the Island of the downunder and I mean really down.
Matt lee |
Tat_tvam_asi
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Post Number: 1220
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Friday, March 20, 2020 - 02:50 am: |
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Well done! Thank you, Michael.
Salome, Bill |
Tat_tvam_asi
Member
Post Number: 1221
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Friday, March 20, 2020 - 06:17 am: |
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>>> CORONA VIRUS: PET OWNERS BE AWARE <<<
According to the WHO there is no evidence that dogs and cats can become infected by or transmit the CV19.
But this information is wrong.
Even our MSM reported that 2 dogs in HK contracted the virus. But they trivialize this pet infection
as 2 isolated cases of “human to animal transmission" and it seems these pet infections were only found out and reported because the pet owners were infected by CV19.
Yes the virus is mainly transmitted by a direct or indirect droplet infection, namely by a breath-droplet-vapour.
“When the breath-droplet breath cools further and further, the breath-water vapour is transformed in such a way that tiny breath-water droplets are formed, which then float in the air and spread out…”
But according to Billy’s latest information animals and pets may as well become infected and transmit the virus to humans and other animals.
IOW -There is no need for the pet owner to infect them, they could pick up the CV from breathing in droplets containing the virus or by coming in contact with surfaces that are infested with the virus:
E.g. cock roaches that are continually grooming themselves, cleaning their antennas and legs via their mouth may inadvertently invite the virus to enter their bodies. Similarly, pet dogs may infect themselves by sniffing virus infected patches. Pet cats licking their paws may have walked over virus infected patches. And these insects and animals may then pass their virus infection on to humans. Indeed, one may wonder whether the pet dogs in HK had infected their owners rather than vice versa *).
Salome, Bill
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There is no empirical data at all how many animals may have infected humans but it is a danger that esp. pet owners should be aware of:
E.g.
HK reportedly has only 25,000 stray dogs (there seem to be no stats re. the no of pet dogs). But many western countries do have a large no of (domesticated) pet dogs:
If the stats on the net are right - the US has 89.7 million, Germany has an estimated 9.4 million dogs, England ca. 9 million, Canada 6 million, Australia 4.8 million etc.
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From Billy’s latest information about the Corona Virus (which may contain as well an implied warning not to use public toilets)
(My translation may contain errors)
"... Ninth: AN INFECTIOUS CONTACT CAN ALSO OCCUR THROUGH COUGHING AND SNEEZING BY infected PERSONS or DOGS and CATS, because pets can also be carriers of the coronavirus.
Also the indirect route via contact infection or smear infection with the viruses on objects, body surfaces or food on which infectious expiratory droplets have been deposited leads to contamination when they subsequently enter the body via the mucous membranes, e.g. in the mouth, nose or eyes.
Transmission via the faeces-oral route and other body excretions may also occur,
AS well as VIA INFECTED ANIMALS, ANIMALS AND DOMESTIC BEETLES SUCH AS COCKROACHES, etc."
German Original
Neuntens: Ein Infektionskontakt kann auch durch hustende und niesende infizierte Personen oder Hunde und Katzen erfolgen, weil auch Haustiere Träger des Coronavirus sein können. Auch der indirekte Weg über Kontaktinfektion bzw. Schmierinfektion mit den Viren auf Gegenständen, Körperoberflächen oder Nahrungsmitteln, auf denen infektiöse Exspirationströpfchen niedergegangen sind, führen zur Kontaminierung, wenn sie anschliessend über die Schleimhäute, z.B. in Mund, Nase oder Augen, in den Körper gelangen. Eine Übertragung über den fäkooralen Weg und über andere Körperausscheidungen kann ebenfalls gegeben sein, wie auch über infizierte Tiere, Getier und Hauskäferarten wie Kakerlaken usw. |
Hugo
Member
Post Number: 819
Registered: 04-2015
| | Posted on Friday, March 20, 2020 - 09:45 pm: |
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Newinitiation,
Coronavirus is 40 times more lethal then the flu as tens of millions of people get the flu each year. Statistics are .01% of people that get the flu die as apposed to 4% of people that get coronavirus die.
Also, even if someone survives getting coronavirus, they still have permanent damage done to their lungs. This permanent damage happens before a person even starts to show the symptoms and feeling sick after getting it. The permanent damage has already been done. There is a toxicologist that has a popular Youtube channel called "Peak Prosperity". Watch the video below at the 10:30 mark for that proof.
Also, watch at the 25:40 minute mark for proof why to avoid using the headache tablet Ibuprofen as it will make it worse. I have stopped using paracetamol for headaches after I read the Plejaren strongly advise against using it. So I switched to Ibuprofen whenever I got a headache. If I did not find out the information below and I got coronavirus, I would have unsuspectingly been using Ibuprofen to treat the headaches/fever which would have made it worse.
Peak Prosperity
Chloroquine: A Promising Coronavirus Treatment? |
Tat_tvam_asi
Member
Post Number: 1222
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Saturday, March 21, 2020 - 07:16 am: |
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The Australian ABC prints an CV article which appeared initially in the "Conversation".
It mentions 3 scenarios to overcome the CV19.
The article's author recommends the way that most of the world follows: "Endgame C" (3rd possibility) that is, to shut down everything for a certain period. Then, once virus free, open up to business again but force anyone entering the country to undergo a 14 day -quarantine period *) outside the country first.
But it mentions as well another alternative, called “Endgame A” that is the plan to "flatten the curve" (which only sounds good) which is to restrict some movements in order to lower the peak in cases, while accepting that infections will continue to grow until the epidemic has run its course. (And the article is quite honest what this means telling the reader) THERE WILL BE MANY DEATHS … !!!
But hang on - there is even more:
“… A variant of Endgame A is to isolate everyone over 60 (the age group most at risk), INFECT AS MANY YOUNG PEOPLE AS POSSIBLE, and then hope that the disease dies out.
No, the article does not mention which country follows such a plan.
But even to mention this as one of the 3 viable alternatives - it is truly inhumane and horrific!
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We know that the 14 days are too short but apart from that it could work. China and SK are proof of that. |
Norm
Member
Post Number: 191
Registered: 12-2016
| | Posted on Saturday, March 21, 2020 - 06:00 pm: |
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I don't have CoronaVirus, but I got my doctor to give me a script for 5 days of Hydroxychloroquine because of my Spinal Cord Injury. He reluctantly gave it to me as a Malaria drug. Most info says a 6 or more day dose. They are also saying it will work even better with Azithromycin(Z pack). I'm still trying to get a 6th dose and Z pack but my Doc really doesn't believe in it until FDA officially says its Ok for use with CoronaVirus. Hopefully given more time we will know more and how effective it is. Trump freed it up for use with CoronaVirus and Bayer is donating 3 million doses for this. I also heard other Manufactures are also donating millions of doses as well. I asume to be used in Hospitals.
This is what the Treatment Guidelines from South Korea are,
According to the Korea Biomedical Review, the South Korean COVID-19 Central Clinical Task Force guidelines are as follows:
If patients are young, healthy, and have mild symptoms without underlying conditions, doctors can observe them without antiviral treatment;
If more than 10 days have passed since the onset of the illness and the symptoms are mild, physicians do not have to start an antiviral medication;
However, if patients are old or have underlying conditions with serious symptoms, physicians should consider an antiviral treatment. If they decide to use the antiviral therapy, they should start the administration as soon as possible. Chloroquine 500mg orally per day.
As chloroquine is not available in Korea, doctors could consider hydroxychloroquine 400mg orally per day (Hydroxychloroquine is an analog of chloroquine used against malaria, autoimmune disorders, etc. It is widely available as well).
The treatment is suitable for 7 – 10 days, which can be shortened or extended depending on clinical progress.
I got this info here at thelakewoodscoop. Since I'm am not allowed to post the link.
Also, "University of Minnesota researchers opened a clinical trial Tuesday to test a malaria drug that will hopefully prevent COVID-19." |
Newinitiation
Member
Post Number: 2250
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, March 21, 2020 - 07:03 pm: |
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Hi Hugo
Yeah good point which is why I find statements like 'more people have died of the flu than the coronavirus so what's the worry?' simply moronic.
These people don't understand the true nature of this virus and what this genetically modified bio weapon strain and derivative of SARS can potentially do to people's physiology.
Its a weapon of mass destruction and has the effect of shock and awe as it comes on suddenly,just look at the single day death toll in Italy of 800 dead.
So far the governments around the world are doing all it can to contain the spread of this coronavirus but it leaves a lot to be desired.
They are either misinformed or the chief medical officers themselves who are advising the government minister are themselves very ignorant of certain facts regarding this virus.
Its understandable as they don't have the benefit of the plejaren info as we do here.
But still since news travels fast these days they must've at least heard about the information Theyflyblog and other supporters have posted on social media and elsewhere by now.
I've contacted the UN with the plejaren info so I hope that in the immediate future they consult with the medical experts with that info and revise their understanding and then their strategies in how they advise governments around the world through WHO about the best methods going forward.
At present these points needs to be addressed.
1. Some governments have not shut schools and any learning institutions down yet.
Mass airbourne infections results from close contact via peer to peer and children are hidden asymptomatic spreaders of the coronavirus the governments aren't taking this aspect seriously enough due to economic disruptions it will cause and potentially decommission roughly 30% of the medical professionals because they have to look after their children.
This is purely idiotic.
A reduction of 30% now of medical personnel now with all the children safe and not infecting others at home will prevent much more pain down the road when like Italy the hospitals cannot cope with the sheer numbers of patients and shortage of medical personnel and resources because there are that many more people infected and so the problem becomes too big to handle with such limited capacity and resources.
Its better to hurt a little now than compound the problem and suffer hellishly even more later.
This requires that the government just pause their heads regarding the economic impact for the time being and do their utmost to contain the spread of this virus.
2. Masks are useless
They are wasting their money, millions of it yet due to ignorance people carry a false sense of security and falsely presume that they are safe by going about their everyday business.
As the plejaren pointed out the virus is too small and will penetrate through the mask.
It works both directions.
Even a monkey could see that on cold winters day people's breath spouts out through their face mask like a steam locomotion as warm breath meets cold air.
As Michael stresses over and over again on his theyflyblog the medical professionals need proper PPE and I mean proper.
3. Conforming with the plejaren information 2 week isolation is useless.
3 months at least is required.
None of this silly social distancing is ever going to solve this pandemic or even work as a precaution because at some point people need to come in close contact with other people or with products manufactured by people.
There is no way around it period!
This is why proper testing, whether by self or health professionals is imperative of all human beings to identify who is infected and go from there.
Some countries are doing this but in terms of Australia not as many.
Obviously it boils down to whether they have the personnel, the capacity, the capabilities, resources, equipment, information, technical and logistical knowhow, political will, policy, advice from the experts, the co operation of the citizens and what have you but its highly recommended if the authorities take in the wise advice of the plejaren.
Matt lee |
Tat_tvam_asi
Member
Post Number: 1223
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Saturday, March 21, 2020 - 10:05 pm: |
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Well said, Matt.
Yes, I fully support your stand re. school closures being a must! What do they think - these politicians?
Today's Daily Mail reports what the ABS report called the DEADLY SOLUTION ("More Deaths"):
"Is this the REAL reason schools were kept open (in Australia) - allowing children to get infected to flatten infection rates?"
To use children as pawns! If this is true - it is inhumane! Even if they recover the children will have - for life - a weaker lung!
And the parents and relatives of the infected children - don't they have any right at all ? Do they need to send their child to get infected? - Become a mere experimental thing? And the parents and relatives of the infected child - must they get infected and suffer much more severely or even deadly from the virus?
If what the Daily Mail suggests is true - there is a need to stand up for the dignity of human life -because this goes too far!
Because it is so obvious that "Ëndgame A" does not work - even England - it finally closed all its schools!
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Kenneth
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Post Number: 1113
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Saturday, March 21, 2020 - 10:59 pm: |
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Tat_tvam_asi (Bill),
Your post 1222 is very interesting; it almost rings of a covert population control vehicle?
Kenneth |
Scott
Moderator
Post Number: 3049
Registered: 12-1999
| | Posted on Sunday, March 22, 2020 - 06:59 am: |
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Per FIGU & Christian:
Corona-Virus-Warndienst
Coronavirus Warning Service
Liebe Leserinnen und Leser
Dear Readers,
Wir richten ab sofort einen Benachrichtigungskanal bezüglich des Verlaufes der sehr gefährlichen Corona-Virus-Pandemie ein, wozu auch Empfehlungen zu den angebrachten Verhaltensweisen gehören. Wenn Sie Interesse haben an den neuesten Informationen, die von Ptaah und Billy bestätigt sind, dann melden Sie sich bitte für das Newsletter-Abo auf unserer Webseite an. Sie werden dann immer umgehend benachrichtigt, wenn wir Neuigkeiten bezüglich des Verlaufes der Pandemie oder bezüglich angebrachter Verhaltensweisen haben.
With immediate effect we have established a news channel concerning the progress of the very dangerous coronavirus pandemic, to which also recommendations regarding appropriate modes of behaviour belong. If you are interested in the latest information, which is confirmed by Ptaah and Billy, then register for our newsletter subscription on our website, please. Then you will always be notified promptly when we have news regarding the process of the pandemic or regarding appropriate modes of behaviour.
Aktuell ist die Empfehlung von Ptaah, im Hinblick auf die wärmere Jahreszeit, auf einen Mindestabstand von 1,5–2 Meter zu anderen Personen zu achten, um das Ansteckungsrisiko zu minimieren.
In view of the warmer time of the year [northern hemisphere, but also warmer parts of Australia], Ptaah’s recommendation is to keep a minimum distance of 1.5-2 metres to other persons in order to reduce the risk of infection.
https://www.figu.org/ch/newsfeeds |
Msmichelle
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Post Number: 657
Registered: 02-2010
| | Posted on Sunday, March 22, 2020 - 08:06 am: |
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Scott, which reader are you using for these feeds?
MsMichelle (sending peace and love to all)
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Scott
Moderator
Post Number: 3050
Registered: 12-1999
| | Posted on Sunday, March 22, 2020 - 09:21 am: |
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If you are using an older version of Safari it will work as a shared link. As far as news readers go I have not tried any yet, so I couldn't recommend one over the other. I did try adding the FIGU Newsfeed to Apple News, but couldn't get it to work? |
Tat_tvam_asi
Member
Post Number: 1224
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Sunday, March 22, 2020 - 10:27 am: |
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Hi Kenneth,
You can read the Mar 19 article under the header
"Is this the REAL reason the schools were kept open ? How ALLOWING Children to get corona virus could flatten infection rates"
And maybe this one (from Mar 18), too:
China’s top expert says Herd Immunity will NOT CURB the pandemic because the disease is too infectious and too deadly
They are playing with fire... |
Tat_tvam_asi
Member
Post Number: 1225
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Sunday, March 22, 2020 - 10:32 am: |
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… The situation is - everything is locked down - but the children must go to school !!! |
Tat_tvam_asi
Member
Post Number: 1226
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Sunday, March 22, 2020 - 05:28 pm: |
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Finally:
Though schools do remain open in some states:
But children can stay at home if their parents want that!
I need as well to somewhat correct my "… everything locked down..." statement:
It is the cafes, pubs, hotels, cinemas, gyms, churches etc. and travel is limited to essential trips - but petrol stations, pharmacies, supermarkets and banks remain open. |
Kenneth
Member
Post Number: 1114
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Sunday, March 22, 2020 - 07:07 pm: |
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Bill,
When you look at the COVID-19 situation from different prospective, some things just do not make sense. Yes, the school children going to school in Australia when everything else is shut down, does not make sense. The people behind this has its own agenda; or the powers to be are incredibly ignorant! Yes, either way they are playing with fire.
Another issue, the Plejaren and Billy have informed us that the paper/cloth masks that are being pushed on everyone also does not make sense as we know that the virus will pass right through the mask fibers; these masks for the most part are dust masks. The dust masks appear to have a placebo-calming effect on the general public and preventing riots, which appears to be the goals of various governments.
The Plejaren have informed Billy that full face masks and full body suits are required for COVID-19! This virus can gain access into the human body through the mouth, nose, eyes and the excretory system and undoubtedly through open wounds? According to the MSN (Main Stream News) the U.S. and maybe other nations are having problems manufacturing enough placebo masks for everyone. Manufacturing enough full face masks with body suits would be an impossible task!
These placebo paper/cloth masks only covers the mouth and nose, not the eyes. To my knowledge there is no cure or antidote as of yet for COVID-19. Calming the public down with placebo masks allows the governments and various agencies to focus on cures without the public spinning out of control.
Kenneth |
Newinitiation
Member
Post Number: 2251
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, March 22, 2020 - 10:37 pm: |
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Its crazy Bill
I can foresee a situation where due to incidents like bondi beach fiasco the governments are going to come down hard and become more dictatorial by forcing more draconian measure upon the public because the idiots aren't doing the right thing.
They might even have to demarcate a 'no go zone' and force people to wear ankle and wrist bracelet with RFID chips imbedded into them and location tracking device and severely punish those who do the wrong thing.
Either that or make it compulsory for people to download a special app that automatically sends location data and activity to monitor just about everyone in the country.
When and if there is enough testing kits to test every citizens the governments should assign a day like the election day where everyone can get tested on the same day all at once just as the voters vote all on the same day.
There are exceptions in special circumstances but it should be enforced the best they can.
They should stop wasting time with all this 2 week self quarantine nonsense and pull their finger out by absolutely shutting the whole nation down completely for one week and get everyone and I mean everyone tested even if they have to force people to co-operate by using the military and the law enforcement.
Unfortunate as it is we are dealing with a bio weapon and people shouldn't forget that and the reason why this coronavirus is so deadly.
Its imperative for people to be selfless especially in these crucial and dangerous times by acting within the best interest of the country and fellow citizens.
We all have to work as one and do our best to get this pandemic under control
We are all in this together and there is no escaping this fact.
Matt lee |
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