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Hugo
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Post Number: 835
Registered: 04-2015
| | Posted on Friday, April 17, 2020 - 03:42 pm: | 
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Thanks for that Scott!
What I would like to know from the Plejaren is if the Chinese Communist Party deliberately let this virus spread to the rest of the world. When the virus was out of control the CCP stopped all domestic flights out of Wuhan into other Chinese states but they allowed all international flights to continue for many days on. Was this done deliberately by the CCP and did they only stop once they knew it had spread to many other nations? The information I learned recently about the CCP is that everything they decide to do is deliberated and calculated and nothing is accidental. How can they at the time of deciding to close all domestic flights out of Wuhan not consider also closing international flights too? Because of that I think it was intentional. |
Cpl
Member
Post Number: 1227
Registered: 08-2004
| | Posted on Friday, April 17, 2020 - 08:20 pm: |
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Everyone makes mistakes and despotic regimes make many. Despots are high in ignorance. The mayor of Wuhan (or was it Hubei?) has already admitted that it was his fault that he allowed five million people to leave Wuhan district when they knew Coronavirus was there. As the adage goes: it's what you don't know that kills you. Viva intelligence, knowledge, and understanding.
Chris
Use fully to the best both heart and head and never lose either.
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Scott
Moderator
Post Number: 3072
Registered: 12-1999
| | Posted on Friday, April 17, 2020 - 10:35 pm: |
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Yes Chris, the mistakes of a few, cause the suffering of many.... |
Cpl
Member
Post Number: 1228
Registered: 08-2004
| | Posted on Friday, April 17, 2020 - 11:08 pm: |
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At this time, people should be careful not cast the blanket of blame on the usual suspects, but only go with what is precisely known while remembering that certain powers in the US might shrink at nothing to see the end of the Chinese regime. There is a need to be ever vigilant to avoid manipulation by very smart, compelling, and sly propaganda outfits.
Chris
Use fully to the best both heart and head and never lose either.
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Kiwiseeker
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Post Number: 179
Registered: 08-2006
| | Posted on Saturday, April 18, 2020 - 03:16 am: |
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This should be of interest:
Documentary Proof: University of North Carolina Generated COVID-19
https://www.veteranstoday.com/2020/04/17/pravda-us-army-created-covid-19-in-2015-research-proofs-or-debunking-you-pick/
*Key Laboratory of Special Pathogens and Biosafety, Wuhan Institute of Virology, Chinese Academy of Sciences, Wuhan, China supplied the Wuhan Bat Virus which was used in the American study. Their name was included for that reason only.
*The proof is here, simply scroll down. The study was run by the University of North Carolina and funded by USAID/CIA. It chose a Chinese bat virus and chose to include a medical facility in Wuhan as well.
Now we know why, a smokescreen of the blame for a program China had little or nothing to do with, something satanically evil and purely American.
*In November 2015, a study was published outlining the capability of producing the virus we are dealing with now. Among the many involved was a lab in Wuhan, China. It was listed from the beginning as one of the dozens, mostly American, working on this project.
Charles
Hi Charles, Perhaps you have been away from the forum for awhile, but FIGU prefers only links to FIGU sites when posting links. Thank you-Scott
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Tat_tvam_asi
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Post Number: 1289
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Saturday, April 18, 2020 - 08:13 am: |
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Dear Moderators Please publish the mail below instead of my previous post Thank you.
Not only this, Charles...
Ptaah told us that the C. gov did NOT know what this Lab researched.
But others may well have known the possible dangers.
A few days ago the Washington Post (USA), the Daily Mail (England) and the ABC (Australia) they all reported that this research fac. was (in 2018 - for 3 months) inspected. Search for:
Daily Mail 2018 Sensitive Diplomatic Cables |
Newinitiation
Member
Post Number: 2277
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, April 18, 2020 - 12:52 pm: |
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Charles the biolabs creating biological pathogenic agents for weapons purposes require highly trained specialists and very sophisticated equipments that have its own serial number that is materially traceable.
This means that the regular mums and dads off the streets cannot conceivably set up such a sophisticated facility even if they had all the money in the world especially in another foreign country behind the back of its government.
Since these secret biolabs require such expensive and very hard to obtain and purchase equipments and instruments especially if they have to be purchased from foreign manufacturers, even with a front company, its near impossible to set it up without the approval and co-operation of some of the high rank bureaucrats from CCP.
The system just won't let you do that unless some of the powers that be are involved.
So its highly probable that secret deals, secret funding, secret measures and secret collaborations were forged between the Chinese and US behind the backs of each respective governments.
Hawaiian senator Inoue's infamous statements should come to mind here but also the Chinese general's finger pointing at the US wasn't exactly wrong either.
The nature of the octopusian tenticular like nature of the military industrial complex is that they have no borders nor race preference they just exist on another level of aim, purpose, idea, thoughts, intentions, agenda and motivations that is always self serving for the sake of power, control, domination, profit and for its own existence that serve the very few.
The facts are this covert bioweapons program was definitely a collaboration between the secret elements of the US and the Chinese military industrial complex.
We have to also remember that bioweapons lab are not created to manufacture kid's toys but a substance that is designed to kill living organisms especially human beings.
Billy wasn't interrupted by Ptaah for no reason during their conversation and this says a lot especially about what the true purpose of this SARS variant COVID-19 virus strain was really created for.
Matt lee |
Newinitiation
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Post Number: 2278
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, April 18, 2020 - 01:04 pm: |
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Hi Chris
Correct me if I am wrong but from the statements that you have made from your post 1228 are you alluding to the fact that you cannot discount the possibility that the two infected technicians who inadvertently spread this virus were actually deliberately infected by someone from the US interests in the lab with the intention of 'escaping' this COVID-19 throughout China and then the rest of the world and that this population reduction plan worked out over 2 decades ago by the powers that be was being implemented this way to wipe out a vast number of the world's population?
Or am I just assuming too much and putting words in your mouth?
Can you be more specific with the statement you have made?
Matt lee |
Hugo
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Post Number: 837
Registered: 04-2015
| | Posted on Saturday, April 18, 2020 - 08:45 pm: |
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Regardless of who was running the Wuhan bio-lab the Chinese Communist Party is still responsible for first covering it up and then carelessly or deliberately letting it out onto the world. The CCP stuffed the world and is responsible for all this misery and deaths.
I dislike how all our governments and medias are not holding the CCP responsible and demanding compensation. If i was in charge of Australia I would as part compensation take back all the vast tracks of farming land the CCP owns in our nation. And if all other nations did similar things the CCP would not be able to retaliate. China cannot feed itself and needs the rest of the world to feed it. That's the ace up all our sleeves. If world does nothing the CCP will just let something else happen again. |
Cpl
Member
Post Number: 1230
Registered: 08-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, April 18, 2020 - 09:58 pm: |
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Hi Matt, I am not alluding to anything. I meant only that which I wrote. Nothing more and nothing less. I wasn't thinking of any specific one or two of the many scenarios one can read about.
A thought at the back of my mind, and that's all it was, was that the prelude to WW III or a dummy run might be underway, though I certainly hope not. My eye was on the bigger picture not the details.
Chris
Use fully to the best both heart and head and never lose either.
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Cpl
Member
Post Number: 1231
Registered: 08-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, April 18, 2020 - 10:57 pm: |
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Matt, perhaps I should say, that I do think there are powers based in the US that want to see the Chinese regime gone, and when powers there want a regime out, infiltration and actions occur. Of course, I do not know whether that is the case here, and if it is who is behind it, but it is something to keep in mind. The media of late is increasingly politicizing the C19 issue and using it to attack the CCP, not that the regime is blameless, of course. There's plenty that it should account for, but now is not the time to allow oneself to be politically manipulated -- either way. Also Billy has said that the CCP is not guilty here of participating. Governments everywhere seldom know what their military agencies are doing in secret. It's the worldwide military bio weapons research that is out of control and must end.
Chris
Use fully to the best both heart and head and never lose either.
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Kiwiseeker
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Post Number: 180
Registered: 08-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, April 19, 2020 - 02:08 am: |
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Thanks Bill-interesting!: In C726 Ptaah said "The secret laboratories, in which not only research but also experiments are carried out in three different places, are not maintained on behalf of the government." You wrote: "Ptaah told us that the C. gov did NOT know what this Lab researched." Which contact is that?
Thanks Scott: It shall be done!!
Charles |
Kiwiseeker
Member
Post Number: 181
Registered: 08-2006
| | Posted on Sunday, April 19, 2020 - 02:35 am: |
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Thanks Matt-interesting what you have written.The true purpose? Population reduction? Ptaah said accidently released. We have a saying-"Accidentally on purpose"! This outbreak in China has advantages for the US-slowing down the economic growth of China;being able to "point the bone" at China-other yes men are now doing the same. Just like Russia-bashing. I was wanting to mention research done by Dr. Irene Cesar of Wave Genome whose firm has made an electronic device to "cure" the corona virus,called RA SHIELD. Of interest is what she says about this virus. The first extract reminds me of Ptaah talking about impulse symptoms.Extracts:
*The pandemic of SARS-CoV-19 will end up not in the elimination and control of the infection, but in the mutation of the virus, so that it will weaken and become less noticeable in the public eye, though preserving all of its disastrous impact on the human genome.
*The Wuhan Coronavirus returns to the cured patients.
*Since no immunity is formed, any attempt at vaccine will be the spread of the virus, instead of its elimination. This is besides the factor of the seasonal mutations of the virus, which makes any vaccine obsolete with a new flu season.
*SARS-Cov-19 has the artificial HIV inserts, so that the HIV retrovirus has now become airborne.Therefore it can spread over the borders and to any rank of society, demobilising the work force, the elites, government, army, and intelligence
*Its risk lies not in the short-term pandemic with high mortality, but in the slow shut-down of the structural genes across all of the human populations via the recombinant RNA of the retrovirus, causing the slow degeneration with the resultant sterilisation of human populations.
*The Hydroxychloroquine does not treat the virus itself, and its side effect is the total suppression and the resultant failure of the immune system. Therefore, the Hydroxychloroquine should not be in any case considered as a treatment (and, of course, not a cure) for the SARS-Cov-19.
Charles |
Cpl
Member
Post Number: 1232
Registered: 08-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, April 19, 2020 - 08:27 am: |
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A number of governments are seriously thinking of bringing charges against China, Hugo.
Chris
Use fully to the best both heart and head and never lose either.
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Tat_tvam_asi
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Post Number: 1290
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Sunday, April 19, 2020 - 12:44 pm: |
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Hi Charles,
I inferred that they were "not aware" from these passages*)
"...While the research on these viruses continues, its important to know that the Chinese Government is NOT involved. There are two secret labs in China which are working on secret projects, the objectives of which Meier is not allowed to disclose.
Just as it is very much the case in the USA, the Chinese government is also not always aware of everything going on in/with all of the shady agencies, etc., etc. "
Salome, Bill
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https://theyflyblog.com/2020/02/20/update-coronavirus-is-mutation-of-sars-virus/ |
Cpl
Member
Post Number: 1233
Registered: 08-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, April 19, 2020 - 06:47 pm: |
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Quite right, Bill (post 1290).
It is the world's military bio-weapons research that is out of control and needs reigning in. If only the respective governments did now and would put an end to it. As the Buddha said millennia ago, "Ignorance [not knowing] is the greatest evil." It is also rampant, causing endless confusion and suffering. That people cannot see, and even deny the ignorance further exacerbates things.
Chris
Use fully to the best both heart and head and never lose either.
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Kenneth
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Post Number: 1123
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Sunday, April 19, 2020 - 08:13 pm: |
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Regarding Kiwiseeker's (Charles) Post
Dr. Irene Cesar of the Wave Genome firm. Of interest is what she says about this Corona virus, aka CoV-19. It was brought to my attention by Lindy, another FIGU member:
Interesting; now wondering if this, in part, was china's attempt at birth control and it got loose?
Lindy
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*The pandemic of SARS-CoV-19 will end up not in the elimination and control of the infection, but in the mutation of the virus, so that it will weaken and become less noticeable in the public eye, though preserving all of its disastrous impact on the human genome.
*The Wuhan Coronavirus returns to the cured patients.
*Since no immunity is formed, any attempt at vaccine will be the spread of the virus, instead of its elimination. This is besides the factor of the seasonal mutations of the virus, which makes any vaccine obsolete with a new flu season.
*SARS-Cov-19 has the artificial HIV inserts, so that the HIV retrovirus has now become airborne. Therefore it can spread over the borders and to any rank of society, demobilising the work force, the elites, government, army, and intelligence.
*Its risk lies not in the short-term pandemic with high mortality, but in the slow shut-down of the structural genes across all of the human populations via the recombinant RNA of the retrovirus, causing the slow degeneration with the resultant sterilisation of human populations.
*The Hydroxychloroquine does not treat the virus itself, and its side effect is the total suppression and the resultant failure of the immune system. Therefore, the Hydroxychloroquine should not be in any case considered as a treatment (and, of course, not a cure) for the SARS-Cov-19.
Kenneth |
Cpl
Member
Post Number: 1234
Registered: 08-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, April 19, 2020 - 10:07 pm: |
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Maybe not only China's attempt, Kenneth, but the whole dark order's attempt. It reminds of Billy's fearful dream of a powerful elite planning massive genocide because they know we are so vastly overpopulated that planetary decimation is ahead unless action is taken, and they are not considering the humane Plejaren approach.
Chris
Use fully to the best both heart and head and never lose either.
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Kiwiseeker
Member
Post Number: 182
Registered: 08-2006
| | Posted on Monday, April 20, 2020 - 02:47 am: |
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My emails to politicians,journalists,virologits,etc including extracts from Billy & Ptaah re the corona virus has been a failure. I also sent updates to some. I have been doing this since the 26th Feb. I got only one reply-from a chinese MP who was courteous & appreciative.Actually he was involved in a controversy last year-his job in China was teaching spies,which didn't go down well with some politicians. Yesterday I emailed a physicist who has been advising the gov't on modelling the outbreak-no reply. Mind you I am only "common clay",not a professor or a doctor.Then I think of Billy who has no academic qualifications-"book learning" as Billy would say. Now I know why Michael Horn is so frustrated in trying to spread the truth;Billy,of course,must be even more so.
The chinese herbal mixture "Jade Screen" would help if you had the CV.
Charles |
Tat_tvam_asi
Member
Post Number: 1291
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Monday, April 20, 2020 - 08:17 am: |
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Horrible news - but thank you, for bringing it to our attention, Kenneth.
I think we are already seeing the beginning of it - SK which was one of the first countries after China with an - initially - massive hit, is seeing a "re-activation" of the virus. So does Japan. Not sure if China has similar happenings...
Yes, Chris - this is as well what I thought - the prognosis that Billy gave in his 2017 (Ptaah 51 % probability) "foresight" 2 1/2 years ago - it is chillingly accurate - in describing the symptoms of COVID-19!
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Newinitiation
Member
Post Number: 2279
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Monday, April 20, 2020 - 08:52 am: |
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Thanks for the link Scott
So the social distancing and isolation is having some success according to Billy and Ptaah but it looks like people are becoming lax and reverting back to their old ways again with incompetent, so called, leaders giving bad advices and making stupid decisions.
Matt lee |
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