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Kenneth
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Post Number: 1133
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 13, 2020 - 09:47 am: | 
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Correction on my Post Number: 1132.
I should have said, “…there have been half a million babies born SINCE COVID-19 BEGAN, A CERTAIN PERCENTAGE OF THESE 500,000 WOMEN WERE INFECTED WITH THE CORONA VIRUS…”
Post 1132:
According to a recent mainstream news article on May 12, 2020, there have been half a million babies born to Mothers with COVID-19 while in quarantine. The first thing that comes to mind of the continuing overpopulation issue…
Kenneth |
Aristea
Member
Post Number: 55
Registered: 06-2019
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 13, 2020 - 10:37 am: |
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Hi Michael et al. I would be happy to promote FIGU and the Meier material. However, if I do so using my own name and identity, I will be even in danger of losing my job in the local community, because the information is so threatening to earth people in general. Some people I have spoken to view Billy Meier as a kind of quasi Nazi, who is seeking to promote anti-social and even anarchistic points of view. In fact, when I am online with my I-Pad in a public place, using their Wi-Fi, I cannot access this forum. Access is banned, because this forum is considered to be "alternative" and "suspicious". This is the reason why more people aren't publicly associating themselves with FIGU. . . . it is simply too dangerous for their reputation in the cities that they live and work in. Very quickly, as I have found in the past, you can be ostracized and even find yourself unemployable for promoting "alternative" realities. They will call you "unstable" and even "mentally ill" and will pressure you to get psychiatric treatment for your psychosis. Thirty years ago I was there. . . . for promoting ideas that were socially unacceptable. I won't put my neck out again, not until I am retired and have a pension, and enough money that I don't need to worry about societal punishments for abberrational behavior or thinking!
Leave not for tomorrow what you can accomplish today!
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Michael_horn
Member
Post Number: 1453
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 13, 2020 - 04:34 pm: |
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Aristea et al,
Nowhere do I, or FIGU, advise any form of personal sacrifice or endangering oneself.
I leave it to people who want to support the efforts I'm speaking about to find safe, creative ways to do so if they wish. |
Michael_horn
Member
Post Number: 1454
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 13, 2020 - 05:11 pm: |
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HI Matt,
Thanks for your suggestions and your efforts at outreach.
Unfortunately, advertising on TV is cost prohibitive. I'm really just trying to get the info acknowledged and disseminated by people in the media. |
Luís
New member
Post Number: 3
Registered: 02-2015
| | Posted on Thursday, May 14, 2020 - 04:54 am: |
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This is a problem that persists because the colonizers never decolonized themselves and consequently did not decolonize the colonized. The people who stayed back as leaders and the powers that be, were the descendentes of the colonizers themselves, so nothing actually ever changed for the better. The only way to solve this problem, which will take at least a generation, will be for the descendentes of the colonizers to admite to their ancestors mistakes and decolonize their own minds. When this has been achieved, they can start decolonizing the old colony mindset. As you are all aware here on FIGU, 99% of people are not even aware of this, so the majority must be instructed. Even then many will not except this mind view.
Then we have another problem that is linked to colonization, patriarchy and neo liberalism which around 1973 started our new world currency sistem, the money fractional system.
Each FIGu member must be well instructed in history and sociology, read learn, only then can you effectively pass knowledge and reason unto others, using these as your proof of argument.
Work directly with the people around you, if you´re subtil, people will look at you as a wise one. You can´t ram Meier´s teachings into brains, because when people start seeing ufo´s and prophets, it´s over, the lesson is over, that is my experience.
I have had guys at the gym come over to me when I am alone and ask, are there really aliens? hahaha, so these guys really do read my posts and are curious.
When ever possible, allways post scientificaly valid information with Meier´s posts, giving it more credibility. I know this will require a lot more work, but the result will be worth it, trust me I know. Since I started linking scientificaly valid onformation with Meier´s posts, the number of curious people has gone up. Another strategy to bring in more viewers is to post at least two cat and dog cute funny posts per week, it works, hahaha. |
Msmichelle
Member
Post Number: 667
Registered: 02-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, May 14, 2020 - 05:07 am: |
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Personally, as we always do, we take things too far and miss the point. Of course, why would you endanger your life? If you read the suggestion, it requires a clear, consciousness, psyche approach, meaning, if you're full of extreme "ausartung", you're going to take the suggestions as a command instead of a gentle push to do what you can, obviously, if you're working full time, married, with kids, taking care of sick parents, etc., your time is limited, however, there are those who spend a majority of their time online, playing videos games, listening obsessively to "talk radio" or "talk media" etc and soaking up the "garbage" spreading rampantly all over the world. Observe some Figu members, are they "pulling their hairs out to get this information out?" If you are honestly observing society, we are up for some turbulent, dangerous, dreadful times, while at the same time, we can still live peacefully, safely, in remote quiet areas without dealing with all of this craziness.
MsMichelle (sending peace and love to all)
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Aristea
Member
Post Number: 56
Registered: 06-2019
| | Posted on Thursday, May 14, 2020 - 07:27 am: |
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Msmichelle, you are spot on in your analysis of people who have too much time on their hands! Personally, I have never played video games, and don't understand the attraction. . . . YouTube videos are a good source of learning and information, providing you can find a reliable source! There's a lot of junk on YouTube as well! I too grew up in the country in Canada, and spent my free time with ponies and out in nature. For the past 40 or so years I have lived in a city, and as the years pass I miss the freedom I enjoyed in the countryside and my ponies more and more! Maybe I will retire to a nice quiet town somewhere, providing there's an internet connection, of course!
We all build up a public persona which enables us to function in a public kind of confinement, in a job that pays the bills and perhaps fulfills us in some way. If we drop that persona and the role we have come to fulfill, we may as well leave town! People aren't as loving or understanding as many have been led to believe. . . .they present a false "tolerance" which masks their true intolerant points of view. I talk about the Meier information, but only with people who might be sympathetic to it, and not in a position to sabotage my day job!
Leave not for tomorrow what you can accomplish today!
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Kenneth
Member
Post Number: 1134
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Thursday, May 14, 2020 - 08:46 am: |
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Hi Luis,
Well said, long ago I also realized that whenever possible, using scientifically valid and authentic information with Billy's material provides credibility. Michael Horn has done and excellent job in collecting corroborations from Billy’s material aligned to scientifically proven facts which is extremely helpful. Nonetheless, using some of Michael's one liners is found to be beneficial as he has a unique vocabulary.
Many people are caught up in the arguments that reflect political and ideological wishful thinking, not a substantive analysis of what is happening.
What also helps is saying something to the effect that I have reason to trust this information (Billy’s Contact Reports) based on hundreds of corroborated documents and events from previous evidence to also include hundreds of examples of specific prophetically accurate scientific information published well before “official discovery” by Billy Meier.
“A true human being is one who lives according to the creational laws and recommendations and uses his/her consciousness in a creational wise for the personal evolution and that of his/her fellow human beings.”
Best regards
Kenneth |
Eddieamartin
Member
Post Number: 1189
Registered: 08-2010
| | Posted on Thursday, May 14, 2020 - 03:49 pm: |
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With the environment being the biggest wound we need to heal on this planet, primarily caused by the population explosion...
The real solution comes when the majority begin to change their thinking. This requires effective information.
The book Arahat Athersata offers some interesting insights. Resounding the effective advice in the Goblet Of The Truth, the book Arahat Athersata suggests that we sprinkle the seeds of the teaching of the spirit (and the teaching of the life).
According to the book Arahat Athersata, only but certain people are consciously capable of recognizing and pursuing the Meier material.
Salome,
Eddie
In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says:
Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3)
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Hugo
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Post Number: 853
Registered: 04-2015
| | Posted on Thursday, May 14, 2020 - 04:14 pm: |
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"For the past 40 or so years I have lived in a city, and as the years pass I miss the freedom I enjoyed in the countryside and my ponies more and more! Maybe I will retire to a nice quiet town somewhere, providing there's an internet connection, of course!"
Aristea, if you plan on retiring to countryside you don't have to worry about not having an internet connection there because soon everyone in rural areas can have access SpaceX's internet satellites. |
Newinitiation
Member
Post Number: 2310
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, May 14, 2020 - 08:01 pm: |
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Michael I was thinking more in the lines of GoFundMe type arrangement where the whole point of advertising is not for the sake of advertising for purely selling stuff but to bring awareness to the Meier contact case in which case we all chip in some money.
If New York Times Square billboard can accommodate the plejaren wedding cake beamship then I think the TV channels can certainly accommodate Billy's products whatever it cost to get there.
In respect to the social media platforms I think that the law of dilution takes effect in that its not as effective as most people assume or believe because frankly people are overwhelmed with so much information from so many accounts than their ability to process it that often the posts on facebook, whatsapp, twitter, wechat, snapchat, youtube, instagram, Qzone, weibo, reddit, pinterest, ask.fm, tumblr, flickr, linkedIn, google+, flickr, meetup, VK, odnoklassniki and many others are just cursorily glanced at without any deep discernment and proper thinking with hyperlinks not even bothered to be pressed.
So the vast majority of people (not all of course) go from one post to another and than another like a trance induced, braindead and addict like zombies who chaotically dart around here and there from post after post and image after image without actually thinking things through about what they've just read about or seen.
Where it concerns advertising through the MSM I think that over the decades that the masses have been brainwashed by the systematic process of the way in which the information is packaged, produced and delivered to the audience to elicit the ideal psychological effect of the information to achieve the intent and agenda of the information packagers I tend to think that the law of perceived authority still takes effect even if the MSM's credibility and effectiveness is diminished somewhat over the last decade or so due to the alternative media people do still think that 'if its good enough to be on TV it must be legitimate and worth it'.
I am not sure how it will sit with the core 49 but if the intent is to save many lives and bring awareness to the Meier case I think that emailing the laggards in the hopes that some of them will pick it up and run with it is in my opinion expecting too much be they any personnel from the media otherwise some of them would've already done it by now after all these years that the Meier case has already been out there.
The insurmountable obstacle I think is the state of the degeneration of the consciousness of the masses and the level at which they are in at the moment so all the lies, misinformation, disinformation, false information and rubbish information about Billy that is out there is basically doing the masses thinking for them to the point where in order to break the so called matrix and the wool over their eyes you basically have to go through the only channel in which they are most comfortable and familiar with and that happens to be the 'mainstream approach'.
What would be your conclusion?
Matt lee |
Kenneth
Member
Post Number: 1135
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Friday, May 15, 2020 - 09:16 am: |
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Matt Lee,
You may be onto something, deep pockets and others could anonymously (prevents a person from being identified) donate to a GoFundMe type arrangement? In the U.S. during prime-time, Adage found that a nationally-broadcast spot for a commercial cost around $115,000 per minute as of 2020. Cost is based on calculated viewership. For instance, a nationwide audience for a Super Bowl game, one minute can cost over $5,000,000.00. |
Michael_horn
Member
Post Number: 1455
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Friday, May 15, 2020 - 11:51 am: |
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Hi Matt,
Thanks for your consideration of all these factors. I do in fact have a GoFundMe page: https://bit.ly/2WB0Qbe
I've used one public relations firm and am seeking another, more high profile one. I also have been using funding for some video production, marketing, etc.
I am absolutely open to any information, contacts, etc., that might be receptive to the information.
The obstacles we face are of course formidable and I have to remind myself every now and then that the Plejaren and the Nokodemion prophets have been up against the idiocy of earth human beings for the past 13,500+ years.
Nonetheless, along with reading and writing, we are in the digital age and now is the time to make use of every avaialble means, especially in light of the pandemic and of course the root cause in overpopulation, etc. |
Norms
Member
Post Number: 7
Registered: 12-2019
| | Posted on Friday, May 15, 2020 - 01:13 pm: |
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Think everyone should watch this podcast of MD Jay Neilsen on PANDEMIC EPIC FAIL: Wrong Illness, Wrong Prevention, Wrong Response, Wrong Treatment |Jay Nielsen MD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkerGxg5Gr8
He appears to take a very balanced approach after observing patients before and after treatment with various readily available inexpensive drugs.
Hello Norms, at this time FIGU requests all links posted to the forum be FIGU related links. You can find a list of these links posted on the main FIGU Website. Thank you, Scott-Moderator
(Message edited by scott on May 15, 2020) |
Newinitiation
Member
Post Number: 2311
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Friday, May 15, 2020 - 02:05 pm: |
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Aristea you said
'We all build up a public persona which enables us to function in a public kind of confinement, in a job that pays the bills and perhaps fulfills us in some way. If we drop that persona and the role we have come to fulfill, we may as well leave town! People aren't as loving or understanding as many have been led to believe. . . .they present a false "tolerance" which masks their true intolerant points of view. I talk about the Meier information, but only with people who might be sympathetic to it, and not in a position to sabotage my day job!'
You hit the nail on the head on this one.
Although having said that you begin to understand why Mohammad was an arch crook to the max.
If there is such a word you almost have to build up your own arch crookedness to navigate around a world so fractured and so splintered by illogical unwritten rules, systems, regulations, dominant social sentiments, prevalent mainstream attitudes, degeneration of what is moral, proper, righteous, dignified, good and ethical bourne out equally broken and messed up heads.
Just to give you an example from my own direct experience one of my supervisors is the prototypical redneck Australian who has no qualms about calling people poofs and fags out in the open and uses his gift of the gab to charm-offensive his way out of a problem just to cover his arse from his incompetence.
He is very divisive and uses primitive psychological tricks to divide people which results in imbecilic factionalism, tribalism, fake tolerance, duplicity, two facedness and unbelievable amount of back stabbing and back biting.
He constantly makes crude jokes sometimes self deprecating but on the whole targeted at those he doesn't like for whatever reason.
He is very condescending towards his employees and puts people down directly and indirectly with his aggressive jokes.
He has no problem talking shit about his own boss to everyone and plays these cunning office politics and mind games that just constantly provokes other people's world of emotions and feelings.
When you think about it it wouldn't be so wrong to call him a shallow, egomaniacal, amoral and a degenerate lowlife who unnecessarily creates so much problems for other people.
Now where neutral positive balance, arch crookedness and being oneself comes into the fold as taught by Billy whether his scummy intrigues and childish machinations are directed at you or anybody else you simply don't react in likeness to his degenerate actions but remain calm, steadfast but from a position of compassion and understanding.
Since his compulsive backstabbing, oblique evasions and diversions in the form of hiding behind his crude jokes and charm offensiveness is bourne out of severe anxieties, self doubt, insecurities, fragile ego, weak character and possibly childhood trauma, you can begin to understand just what kind of influence and upbringing this bloke had gone through to become like this.
So on the whole even though not all, this type personality is representative and a good indicator of how things are in the mainstream and on the mainstreet and what kind of social conditions that this types create wherever they are and with whom they are with.
The lower level sentiments still dominantly prevails in this 21st century and you do need to work on your inner strengths so as to be protected by these elemental and negative vibrations generated by other people.
You also need to hone your skills in psychological judo and verbal judo so that you protect yourself against the lower level intentions and motives that people work from.
Unfortunately due to so much suspicion and mistrust between human beings to human beings nowadays its rare to have heads out there especially in the workplace who have the capacity to genuinely understand instead of duplicitously putting on a fake mask of understanding about any element of the Meier case had you brought it up.
So you need to arch crookedly, if there is such a word, present the information to them in an oblique and indirect way without giving away the source.
Once you achieve a certain level of mutual understanding built up on credibility from the Meier information you can give out the source and openly talk to people about it.
This is what I have done so far and no problem faced so far but rather people are showing more interest out of their own volition and interests.
Matt lee |
Newinitiation
Member
Post Number: 2312
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Friday, May 15, 2020 - 02:20 pm: |
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Thanks for the information Kenneth.
Now it puts into perspective just how money centric everything is and as ABBA said 'money money money its not funny its a richman's world'
But dare I say its doable although it'll take some time and since the masses will be holed up in their houses for the foreseeable future the viewership of the regular TV channels must be up and with it its effectiveness.
Cheers
Matt lee |
Newinitiation
Member
Post Number: 2313
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Friday, May 15, 2020 - 02:49 pm: |
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Michael your persistence and unending devotion to the silent/quiet revolution of truth is commandable and one that we can all be inspired by.
In respect to your preexisting Gofundme campaign I am well aware of this drive and your media campaign but I was thinking more in lines of a separate Gofundme drive for the sole purpose of advertising but instead a one off donation at the discretion of the volition of the contributors a separate arrangement is made whereby a consistent and monthly pledge is worked out with everyone who is tied to the mission who is willing and able just as FIGU has with the passive member contributions until at such time the full campaign monies are collected.
Given the economic crisis everyone is affected by asking for a consistent pledge at this time may seem harsh and unfeasible to those with extreme modest means of day to day survival as most who are drawn to the Meier case is not exactly the crass materialistic well to do type of people with deep pockets but for what its worth the advertising campaign may shave off decades of drip drip drab drab efforts in a single 60 second instance.
Or is this idea too difficult to achieve and the preexisting arrangement you have at the moment would suffice for the time being given the circumstances?
Matt lee |
Michael_horn
Member
Post Number: 1457
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Friday, May 15, 2020 - 08:59 pm: |
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Matt,
Advertising is usually directed at selling products and would have to convey enough information to warrant interest on the part of those who come upon it. So, either they'd have to have some knowledge of the Meier contacts, or an interest in UFOs, etc.
I'm actually more interested in getting the attention of competent journalists, media people, etc., which is simply harder if one doesn't have a high profile, popular brand, etc.
To attain that status and reach those people through any kind of advertising, etc., would probably be a prohibitively expensive proposition.
I do reach out very regularly through social media, even though I can't escape the feeling that most people that are very involved in it are not very smart, nor interested for the most part in something like this, though there are always some exceptions, which makes for a slow process requiring unrelenting persistence. |
Newinitiation
Member
Post Number: 2314
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, May 16, 2020 - 04:39 am: |
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Michael given how life is full surprises with unexpected twists and turns maybe such a fortuitous situation may come about in the future which could make this a possibility but until then it'll continue to be a hard slog as it was effortfully meant to be.
Humourously speaking the possible upside to this COVID-19 pandemic may be that due to drastic downturn in the advertising market the TV networks might drastically reduce the cost of advertising to stay afloat which might make advertising through their networks much more affordable and hence the adage that 'one man's loss is another man's gain' for which in any case the advert idea may 'And still they fly'.
Matt lee |
Ilovebilly
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Post Number: 626
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Saturday, May 16, 2020 - 05:16 am: |
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The 9 UFO's
I Reckon its Billy,CF,MH,Eddie,Cpl,Matt Lee, Scott, Gaiaguys, Kenneth, Bernadette, Toth, some of the 49 and other figu folk from the year 3049 buzzing The Figu HQ letting Billy know they r getting the DNA to restore nature after The Creations Law is restored.
Only The Figu or our mates can buzz The HQ and survive to tell the tale, just ask the Giza dudes.
EhEh joke.
Salome
ilovebilly
Every Cloud Has A Silver Lining. Truly, I know that there is no resistance to my successes, also not in my thoughts and not in my imagination and also not in my feelings. 77 Being emotional is not logical but is temporary madness and you are either logical or mad not both, i am grateful for my emotions but need to control them.
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Cpl
Member
Post Number: 1248
Registered: 08-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, May 16, 2020 - 06:40 am: |
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Norms,
I think the best video on this is the Bobby Kennedy interview that I put on my FB page today (under Chris Lock). It's even better than his London Real interview. It's all there. Now that he is initiating lawsuits against Fau and Gat I hope he doesn't meet the same fate as his father and uncle. He is standing up to a $1/2T profit making behemoth that absolutely controls MSM content with respect to the industry intent on demanding universal compliance; no free choice for any person allowed.
I am not sure what, if anything Billy says on this issue. If anybody is, it would be good to hear.
Chris
Use fully to the best both heart and head and never lose either.
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Newinitiation
Member
Post Number: 2316
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, May 16, 2020 - 11:32 am: |
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Hehe whadda ya know ilovebilly/joe you happen to be the pilot with me and Hugo as the copilot in a threemen beamship representing the Aussie contingent going on a sky burnout drag racing our way through the pacific ocean to SSSC at 1,798,754,748km/hr smashing the world record set by Billy for fastest ever an earthling has ever flown in the earth's sky eating fish and chips along the way.
Matt lee |
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