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Michael_horn
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Post Number: 1468
Registered: 07-2009
Posted on Monday, June 29, 2020 - 10:09 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'm glad to say that some people have responded and joined in this effort. IMO, this is the best shot we have at getting the info out, not only about the travesty in AZ, but about the Plejaren info about COVID-19 and the Meier contacts.

Interested persons can send a simple email to all the addresses included in the blog, asking why they didn't act - even in their own self-interest. We don't need any attacks, threats, etc. Expressing personal outrage, etc., is fine. Here's the info where you can find the blog...for people who want to take action and HONOR the great and generous effort on the part of Meier and the Plejaren on our behalf:

SCANDAL: ARIZONA OFFICIALS HID COVID-19 WARNINGS!

https://wp.me/p9pOgh-2xz

Governmental, medical, media officials, scientists, kept life-saving information from public

It's happening where YOU live too! Act now!
.....

They set the example, let's demonstrate that their many words to the wise are sufficient to inspire our own action.
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Michael_horn
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Posted on Tuesday, June 30, 2020 - 05:48 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I am glad to say that at least some people, in the states and other countries, have decided to speak up, to actively contribute to getting Meier’s information out into the mainstream, in order to do what we now can to minimize the damage and the threat.*

Anyone here who actually wants to help is free to do so, as numbers really count in this effort.

Here’s the article:

https://theyflyblog.com/2020/06/29/scandal-arizona-officials-hid-covid-19-warnings/


*"To all concerned:

On at least one occasion in the last few months, you have been sent information from media spokesperson, Michael Horn, on life-saving and impeccably accurate information concerning COVID-19. The letters and the referenced articles on Mr. Horn's website provided specific data on this virus that unequivocally predated "newly discovered facts" from researchers and medical experts by weeks, months and, in some cases, years. They have provided information on the true origin, nature and behavior of the novel coronavirus and have enumerated clear and unambiguous steps on how to mitigate the disaster we are now seeing unfold in the U.S. – and particularly now in Arizona.

I have just moved to Coconino County from North Carolina and I am disappointed to see what I can only describe as fumbling in the dark and, in some cases, pursuits in a diametrically opposed direction that the responsible state leaders here are undertaking in their attempts to overcome this tragedy. This, especially knowing they have been given information by Mr. Horn which has proven its prescience and pinpoint accuracy time and again. As is the case in much of the country, Arizona was nowhere near a state of being ready to open for business – now painfully apparent from the data – and the work to get on top of it at his point is going to be exponentially more rigorous and met with even more resistance by an already weary population.

Mr. Horn's website (www.TheyFlyBlog.com) has a broad viewership and Michael has appeared on hundreds of radio and TV shows. As an interested reader, I have yet to see any real acknowledgement of his letters on the coronavirus from any of the parties addressed. This amazes me given the unnecessarily high volume of infected and killed which could have been reduced if serious attention was paid and appropriate action taken to this guidance and advice.

These are just a few of the relevant articles:

Harsh Truth from Plejaren About SARS-COV-2 Pandemic
Now Harvard Expert Confirms Billy Meier on COVID-19 Spread
Newest COVID-19 Information from Swiss Sources!
New Info WRONG About COVID-19 and Temperatures!
More Meier Info About Longer COVID-19 Incubation CONFIRMED!
Stunning New Information About COVID-19 from the Plejaren
COVID-19 Email Sent to Arizona

The facts and data remain there – hidden in plain sight – as a testament to the logical and consistent source behind it....much like Galileo's telescope, through.which the "enlightened ones" refused to even glance in order to learn the truth. My question to you: Are you going to take a look through the telescope?

Sincerely,

M.G.”


"To all concerned,

Is it true that you’ve received numerous emails, dating back to March 5, 2020, from Michael Horn? I would like to understand why you haven’t responded to or reported this urgent information?

We are in a much more serious situation than you could imagine. I implore you to do the right thing and alert the people of the still unrecognized truth about COVID-19.

Michael can be reached at the email below. If you need further documents or contact information, please let me know.

Sincerely,

M.O.”


"To whom it may concern, i.e., everyone!

I came across some covid advice while searching for the most effective way to keep myself, and my family safe from COVID-19.The information I came across in this blog https://theyflyblog.com/2020/06/15/covid-19-warning-what-is-yet-to-come/ is making some very significant COVID19 claims. Are these claims truth? Another concerning statement in this blog is that mr. Horn states he provided all of you with this information prior to this astronomically large surge of cases. IS THIS TRUE? Have you spoken to him in regards to this Information? If you had this information why did no one act on it? This is a very serious matter, and as a citizen I am very concerned, and would like an explanation as to if this information is factual, and if so, why was nothing done? I have also cc Mr. Horn on this email so that there will be no misunderstanding(s) and we can all be on the same page.

Thanks for your time and I greatly look forward to hearing from you.

A.D.”


"Hi,

I write this email, because, as an European citizen, I am concerned about the (worldwide) health implications regarding the current Covid-19 outbreak, and I know, currently, the number of infections in North (and South) America, espec. in the lower states, like Arizona, are rising rapidly.
A friend of mine, Michael Horn, emailed you a couple of weeks ago, with some very relevant Covid-19 information, but he hardly finds a willing ear when he reaches out to others.
That’s very sad while the information, again and again, proves to be 100% legit and true.
However, the source of the information is not a common one and it may take some time getting used to that idea.
Having an academic degree myself, I too, find it sometimes to accept that fact, but because of the proven ‘ironclad’ information of our source (on more than the Covid-19 pandemic by the way), I personally got convinced of the legitimacy of the information, as well the legitimacy of the source of the information.
So, if I learned to look beyond the source, why wouldn’t you?
Is it about the uncommon source of the information or is it about the (again and again) 100% correct, true, legit, information about (a.o.) the current Covid-19 pandemic?
I think, I you didn’t contact Michael Horn yet, it would be a huge missed opportunity if you don’t (contact f.e. by email: pr@theyfly.com, michael@theyfly.com)
This concerns as all, that is to say, everyone on the entire planet, as is obvious by now, watching the Pandemic further unfold.
Why not take the time to spend one (one!) email to ask Michael Horn for some more information.
Below, I provide you with a couple of links to relevant Covid-19 information that, as I said, has turned out to be 100% true, legit, and (very important), this information was, on every occasion, provided weeks to months before the official authorities corroborated it.
I don’t want to preach, although I understand it might seem a bit like that, but I am afraid you'd hit yourself in the head, metaphorically speaking, if you miss out on this.
You might become the laughing stock of people, organizations, and authorities that will take the information (and the source!) very serious one day (for sure).
They will ask you, why did the media miss out on this most important information regarding the Covid-19 pandemic (and other topics by the way), and I think they should.

I would suggest you get in contact with Michael Horn, for example by his email address, as provided above, of via his websites www.theyfly.com and/or www.theyflyblog.com
Again, how much time will it cost you to write one short email asking him for some more information regarding this extremely life-threatening matter, so you can do your own research, and after that, act on it the way you seem fit?

We are all in this together.

Good luck, and,
Kind Regards,

A.S.
The Netherlands”


"To whom it may concern,

During the last 5 months I have discoverd information pertaining to covid19 that has been incredibly accurate and would have potentially saved thousands of lives here @ https://theyflyblog.com. I have also recently discovered that this information has been handed over to you and countless people in the media from Michael Horn starting in early March. https://theyflyblog.com/2020/06/29/covid-19-emails-sent-to-arizona-officials-since-march-5th/. Knowing that you have kept life saving information from the public is incredibly irrisponsible, dangerous, and concerning. As a member of the global community I am troubled by this because you have had months to determine whether this was factual and had you taken this serious you could have helped prevent this new significant increase in cases from happening. In order to stop this current surge in Covid19 we urge you to take these warnings seriously and share all of the pertinent information Michael Horn has provided you with to the public.

I look forward to hearing back from you,

Sincerely,

K.K.”


"To all concerned,

I am a resident of Flagstaff, AZ, and a subscriber to theyflyblog. I have taken the time to read the emails apparently sent to all of you. The thought is staggering that not a single one of you, correct me if I’m wrong, have responded, challenged, or reached out to Michael Horn concerning the COVID-19 information he has been publishing for months—information he has shared with you personally. This valid and vital information has shown to be the most accurate and way ahead of the CDC, the WHO, media outlets, etc. In my opinion, this is a travesty of immense proportions that could have turned out differently. All of you should consider yourselves complicit in the staggering number of coronavirus cases and deaths that continue to multiply by the hour. The question is now, what actions will you take to help turn things around here in our state?

Sincerely Concerned,
A.L."


"Dear everyone,

While searching for the most effective way to keep myself and my family safe from Covid-19 I found some recommendation. The information in this blog:https://theyflyblog.com/2020/02/25/harsh-truth-from-plejaren-about-sars-cov-2-pandemic/ is making some very significant COVID-19 claims.

Are these claims true?

A concerning statement in this blog is that Mr. Horn states he provided each one of you with this information prior to this astronomically large surge of cases.
Has anyone looked into this information? Has anyone spoken to him in regards to this information?

If each one of you had this information, why did no one act on it since the CDC guidelines and just guidelines and therefore unreliable?

This is a very consequential matter. As a citizen I am very concerned, and would like an explanation as to how factual this information is, and if so, why was nothing at all done?

I have cc’d Mr. Horn on this email to avoid any misunderstanding(s), and to confirm that there is an agreement on this disturbing matter.

I appreciate your quick response.

Kind regards,

B.R."
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Tat_tvam_asi
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Posted on Wednesday, July 01, 2020 - 11:21 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sars-CoV-2 in Frozen Wastewater Samples of March 12, 2019 ?

A Spanish research team (virologist A. Bosch) analysing wastewater samples, using the PCR method *), claims to have found genetic residues of Sars-CoV-2 in Barcelona's wastewater. “The remarkable thing about it: the frozen wastewater sample which delivered a positive result for genes assigned to Sars-CoV-2, is from March 12, 2019.

The claim drew some criticism / scepsis from other scientists:
Epidemiologist F. Balloux/London twittered that the used PCR method prone to errors and thinks it is a case of “sample mix-up”.
Virologist Crossan called for further investigations of the sample in question, including those of other laboratories.

We know from Ptaah that the virus spread in China, from the end of July 2019.

*)
The PCR (Polymerase Chain Reaction) method first amplifies and then examines the found genetic material for certain genes that are characteristic of the virus
================================================================================================

New G4 – Swine Flu Virus Found in China

It seems we are truly entering the “times of pandemics” that the Henoch Prophecies predict:

Not only does Ptaah in a new CR (CR 741 of May 30, 2020) warn of the terrible consequences of the “much too early Corona Virus relaxations worldwide” which will cause a further spread of COVID-19 (we have not yet reached the top of the first wave).
According to articles in the U.S. journal PNAS, Chinese scientists found a very aggressive and very contagious Swine Flu Virus related to the H1N1 virus, which caused the 2009 pandemic. The virus, called G4, is “is highly infectious, multiplies in human cells and could trigger a new pandemic”:
According to antibody tests some 4.4 percent of the population had been exposed to the virus, some 10.4 percent of pig farmers had already been infected.

The meta study researched 30,000 nasal swabs from pigs in slaughterhouses in ten Chinese provinces between 2011 and 2018 and isolated 179 different swine flu viruses - most of them from a newer species that has been found in pigs since 2016. The tests seem to indicate as well that any immunity that humans gain from seasonal flu does not provide protection against G4.
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Michael_horn
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Posted on Wednesday, July 01, 2020 - 03:19 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You Can Do What the Real Leaders Are Doing About COVID-19

https://theyflyblog.com/?p=9820

We will perish if we wait for the false "leaders" to lead, our future survival is up to...us

-----------------------------
Hospitals Stressed – As We Warned Four Months Ago!

https://wp.me/p9pOgh-2y6

The steps we must take to contain, control and stop the spread of COVID-19
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Scott
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Posted on Thursday, July 02, 2020 - 08:41 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

A Thank You to the Plejarens
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Phi_spiral
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Posted on Thursday, July 02, 2020 - 09:12 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

There is an excellent article on the Scientific American website, scientificamerican.com, titled Inside the Coronavirus: What scientists know about the inner workings of the pathogen that has infected the world. What makes this article particularly noteworthy is that it is not laden with scientific jargon but rather it is quite user friendly by employing interactive graphics which helps one to visualize better what exactly is going on and is helpful in understanding the mechanisms of drug and vaccine interventions. I will not post the link https://www.scientificamerican.com/interactive/inside-the-coronavirus/ but if you enter the key words scientific american, interactive, inside-the-coronavirus you should be able to find it in a search engine. I'm sure you will find it worth the while.

Regards
Bob
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Schantz
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Posted on Thursday, July 02, 2020 - 10:22 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

My Doctor is an Alien.

I'm very thankful for my best doctor not of this world.
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Kiwiseeker
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Posted on Friday, July 03, 2020 - 01:28 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Somewhat belatedly: Welcome to the forum Bianca and thank you for your input. In particular you wrote: "SO yes we do need supplements because our food does not contain the recommended doses of vitamins or minerals, and Ptaah is also suggesting that we take a double the dose or more. " One point about zinc is that if you supplement,it should be balanced with copper: Zn:Cu = 16:1. You will get little magnesium from MgO;however if you convert to the citrate or malate by reacting with the appropriate acids,,magnesium will be more readily available. I used mag. chloride for several years until making my own supplements from MgO. It appears that you have some confusion: I was a little slack when I mentioned D3 and K2 -these are vitamins. However K=potassium is interesting. Mainstream science does not accept that biological transmutation of elements occurs. I refer to the work done by Prof Louis Kervran. I suggest that those interested read the chapter in Tom Bearden's (nuclear physicist)book on Extraordinary Biology.
Google "Extraordinary Biology Tom Bearden" Extracts:
Professor Louis Kervran reported the astounding results of his research showing that living plants were able to accomplish limited transmutation of elements. Also chickens transmute potassium to calcium for their shells.
Professor Hisatoki Komaki conducted research conclusively proving that microorganisms could transmute sodium into potassium.
J.E. Zundel utilised the mass spectrometer to positively confirm an increase in calcium of 61% to an accuracy of 2%. In the same experiments, the plants increased their phosphorus 29% and their sulphur 36%.
Kervran has also shown that fractures heal rapidly if organic silicon is taken,such as in horsetail (herb) & the leaves of young radishes.
Concerning the impulse left when the Covid-19 can no longer be detected,then this may be of interest in Bearden's book:
The Kaznacheyev experiments proved conclusively that cellular death and disease patterns can be transmitted and induced electromagnetically.
Charles
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Tat_tvam_asi
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Posted on Friday, July 03, 2020 - 11:24 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

>>> Stopping the Growth of The SARS CoV-2 Transport System <<<

A research by the University of California explored SARS CoV-2’s reliance on host cell proteins to make copies of the virus.
They found:
To invade a host cell, the virus takes control of the cell's CK2 protein and forces the cell to modify its structure.
The infected cell then produces tentacle-like structures (filopodia) on its surface which spread out to neighbouring cells.
On the tips of these “filopedia” then appear many new SARS-CoV-2 viruses ready to invade (and mutate in) the neighbouring body cells.
The scientists concluded that the newly created viruses need the tentacle-like “filopedia” to be 'transported' to their next cell-victim.
So, to block (the chemical signals which initialize) the production of “filopedia” could stop the spread of the virus.
The scientists identified several drugs (e.g. the cancer drugs Simitasertib, Ralimetib) which may do just that.

>>> D614G - A New And More Aggressive SARS CoV-2 Strain <<<

Researchers from the American Scripps Research Institute published a not yet peer-reviewed article that there is a new, more aggressive mutation of SARS CoV-2, which has the potential to increase the number of its spike proteins and thus has an increased ability to infect human cells.
D614G, the new strain of the SARS CoV-2 virus, has not only been circulating throughout Europe and the US east coast. It is as well responsible for the most recent outbreak in the Chinese capital Beijing (Xinfadi Food Market).

>>> D614G - Antibodies of the Previous Pathogen May Not Protect From Re-Infection <<<

According to an article on Biorxiv.org (a pre-print website which publishes not yet peer-reviewed articles) antibodies in the blood of Chinese who had recovered from earlier forms of Sars Cov-2 failed to neutralize the new strain.

Well, if I remember correctly, in one of his later reports on the virus Ptaah had hinted that the virus is (unknown to scientists) already further mutating ...
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Learnmore12
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Posted on Friday, July 03, 2020 - 01:43 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Why does any of us need any other information, when the P's have given us all the information we need about Covid. They have even given us information about what this virus can do to us as impulses. I feel this information is more than enough to lead our lives safely. I thank the Plejarens' profoundly for their help that they have rendered to us, which is pricelss!
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Michael_horn
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Posted on Friday, July 03, 2020 - 03:53 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Maybe this is the right section to post in, since I've gotten zero responses to my other posts about this topic.

The truth is that I am sick to my stomach because, despite all of the info, pleas for participational assistance, I've posted here, etc., only a couple of people who participate on this forum - who also participate on my blog - have decided to step up and follow the example that we see in Billy Meier and the Plejaren, who are extremely proactive in providing the COVID-19 info to us.

What the hell is the point of the talk-amongst-yourselves attitude where - at least as far as I know - the vast majority of people here REFUSE to assist in the outreach to the media, journalists, government and medical officials, etc., etc.?

Frankly, it's staggering. Considering how little influence the in-house discussions here will have on the outside world, and how much energy and time is put into it, haven't you learned enough about the pandemic to realize its deadly implications for all of humankind and the need to at least put some energy into informing those who actually might not know and, quite possibly benefit from it?

You also needn't tell me that no one should be "forced" to do anything, do what another has chosen to do, etc., etc. I don't want to hear excuses, justifications, etc., when the time and effort it takes could be much better spent in a proactive manner.

You may remember how Ptaah and Billy called for being proactive, on social media, etc, pertaining to the Peace Symbol and overpopulation. All of that may be moot, should humankind be completely overwhelmed by this disease.

Maybe if we take a moment to not worry about the Atlanteans, and the current evolution of the Bardan, we might do SOMETHING to help assure our own, very threatened future survival.

Pretending that it will just take care of itself isn't sufficient.
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Phi_spiral
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After reading this passage again, I am even more convinced that the impulse remaining behind after the active form of COVD-19 has been quelled, is fluidal in nature. Viruses do indeed emit fluidal energy as do all inanimate objects. Below is an excerpt from Lehrbrief Nr.124. It can also be found in Billy’s book, Rund um die Fluidalenergie on page 52:

A fluid resp. a fluidum means for the purposes of the spirit teaching in effect a radiation.
Ein Fluid resp. ein Fluidum bedeutet im Sinne der Geisteslehre soviel wie Wirkung resp. Ausstrahlung.

In this sense, every fauna, floral or human life form, as well as every object, etc. has a fluid that is valued by every person according to their empathy.
In diesem Sinne verfügt eine jede faunaische, florische oder menschliche Lebensform sowie ein jeder Gegenstand usw. über ein Fluidum, das von jedem Menschen je nach seinem Einfühlungsvermögen gewertet wird.

Fluid is not all the same, because the fluid form varies from the purely impersonal to the very strictly personal.
Fluidum ist aber nicht gleich Fluidum, denn die Fluidalform variiert vom rein Unpersönlichen bis hin zu sehr streng Persönlichem.

In this sense it can be said that e.g. B. a stone has an impersonal fluid, while a person carries a fluid that is very strongly personal.
In diesem Sinne kann gesagt werden, dass z. B. ein Stein ein unpersönliches Fluidum aufweist, während ein Mensch ein Fluidum trägt, das sehr stark persönlich geprägt ist.

In this sense it becomes clear and understandable that, depending on the type of impersonal or personal, a force is given and resonates in the fluid in question, which also forms a body, which in turn is shaped according to impersonality or personality.
In diesem Sinne wird erkenntlich und verständlich, dass im betreffenden Fluidum je nach der Art des Unpersönlichen oder Persönlichen auch eine Kraft gegeben ist und mitschwingt, woraus sich auch ein Körper bildet, der wiederum gemäss der Unpersönlichkeit oder Persönlichkeit geprägt ist.

So emerges from the pure fluid that only one effect resp. radiation produces a fluid force, from which the fluid body then forms.
So entsteht aus dem reinen Fluidum, das nur eine Wirkung resp. Ausstrahlung zeitigt, eine Fluidalkraft, aus der sich dann in weiterer Folge der Fluidalkörper bildet.

This in turn shows that the fluid force and the fluid body are more or less pronounced depending on the development of the personality, respectively. of consciousness.
Daraus geht wiederum hervor, dass sich die Fluidalkraft und der Fluidalkörper je nachdem minder oder stärker prägen gemäss der Entwicklung der Persönlichkeit resp. des Bewusstseins.

The translation is mine and may contain errors.

Regards
Bob
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Ilovebilly
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I dont think condoms will stop the virus during sex.
The virus in fine matter form will most likely be able to go through condoms as its fine mater, when a couple are having sex their electromagnetic/fine matter structure becomes one.

Salome
ilovebilly
Every Cloud Has A Silver Lining. Truly, I know that there is no resistance to my successes, also not in my thoughts and not in my imagination and also not in my feelings. 77 Being emotional is not logical but is temporary madness and you are either logical or mad not both, i am grateful for my emotions but need to control them.
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Newinitiation
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Posted on Saturday, July 04, 2020 - 10:50 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Michael are you going to have a dedicated section on the top first page of your blog with all the email addresses that you've ever emailed so far so that people can use them to email them and to post the results of their email drive?

Maybe providing an avenue where there is a bit of transparency may prompt people to be more proactive with contributing to the mission this way rather than leaving it solely up to their discretion thereby people possibly succumbing to complacency from the safety of anonymity and not being duty bound.

Matt lee
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Michael_horn
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Posted on Saturday, July 04, 2020 - 11:25 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Matt,

See:

https://wp.me/p9pOgh-2xz

https://wp.me/p9pOgh-2xB

https://wp.me/p9pOgh-2yo
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Kiwiseeker
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Posted on Sunday, July 05, 2020 - 01:00 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I can understand your frustration Michael. When I saw your article on the 25/02 I was motivated to send emails to many people and I spent a considerable amount of time in writing those emails and included several attachments. Later I included research from Irene Cesar and recently from 2 German researchers.
Emailed 26 people/organisations. 13 of these emailed updates
14 politicians: including Minister of Health & 2 Associates;leaders of 5 parties-including the priminister & deputy.
Director-General of Health,Professor of Public Health,Medical Professor,Medical Lecturer
Local Medical Centre & District Health Board
Mayors of 2 local towns
Editor of local newspaper
2 journalists & News Hub
Few replied. One politician a professor who wrote "Interesting" & anoter wanted to know what was meant by impulse-I explained as best I could for which I received a "Thankyou". More recently I emailed the 'Opposition' spokesman on health-2 bounced,the 3rd-no response. A week ago I thought that I was in luck. In the local paper was an article about a uni lecturer who was give a grant to study the effect of isolation on people as well as facemask wearing. To my surprise a short email from the uni stated that she would digest my email when she got home. No further communication. I will contact her again.
Obviously my words about incubation period have been ignored (if read), since our quarantine is still 2 weeks. I will rejoin facebook & see if I can make any headway that way.
Keep your chin up Michael!
Charles
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Kiwiseeker
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Posted on Sunday, July 05, 2020 - 01:09 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You are on the money Bob! Thanks for that translation.
After Michael stirred us all up,I couldn't but help a smile when I read the post by Ilovebilly,which of course was meant to be taken seriously.I don't think that I will include that well meant deduction in my future communication attempts!
Charles
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Tat_tvam_asi
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Posted on Tuesday, July 07, 2020 - 03:45 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

>>> Novel Test for Corona Virus <<<

Will we have soon have a simple, fast, non-intrusive and cost effective way of testing for COVID-19 ?
Reportedly *) 10 service dogs of the German Armed Forces are to taught to sniff out an infection with the virus. Result of the study due in ca. 10 days. Current hit rate of the dogs: 80 %

Perhaps more successful than present tests in airports … !?

*)
More details in an article in the Washington Post ...
The study is is done by the German military in co-operation with the University of Veterinary Medicine in Hanover.

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Hugo
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Posted on Tuesday, July 07, 2020 - 04:38 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Tat_tvam_asi,

I cannot see how using dogs to test for the virus will work because the dogs will get the virus they are sniffing for and then become spreaders of it.
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Tat_tvam_asi
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Posted on Wednesday, July 08, 2020 - 12:45 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Good question, Hugo.

Maybe the dogs only sniff human urine samples in (safe?) containers?
Or maybe the dogs are vaccinated first? (Many vaccines are now in a testing stage).

But though I am not quite sure what the answer to your question may be, world's scientists are now well aware how the virus is transmitted - so I think they would have considered the possible infection.
I should add that the research is not only done by German scientists and German dogs - similar studies are undertaken worldwide (e.g. in Japan, the US (University of Pennsylvania’s School of Veterinary Medicine), France, Switzerland etc.

A research team from the University of Helsinki / Finland *) had trained dogs to differentiate between COVID-19 positive and negative urine samples. They found that not only was it much more cost-beneficial to employ dogs and not only did the dogs sniff the samples correctly - the dogs were as well able to detect the presence of COVID-19 before patients display any signs of illness:
“We found that the dogs could see that a person was getting sick about four to five days before they got the disease. That was really encouraging because it means that the sensitivity of the dogs is better than the tests,” (Prof. Hielm-Björkman / University of Helsinki).

So on this planet "we are all in it" - dogs included!

*)
They previously had - very successfully -trained dogs to 'sniff out' cancer patients

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Msmichelle
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Bill, you need to highlight, you're giving "your opinions only in your post" because IMO, you display too much irrelevant, confusing information. Again, the contact reports are simple, logical and easy to understand without, guessing, speculations, etc.
MsMichelle (sending peace and love to all)
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Tat_tvam_asi
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MsMichelle

1. I do not know how you come to the conclusion that my articles contain "my opinions only ..." because the articles I have written about COVID-19 are not my opinions but what our scientists are working on at present.*)
2. I do so because I think it is important that we do not forget the reality we live in
3. But if this does not interest you – then do not worry - just bypass my articles.

This world will always challenge us.
We should never respond with negativity / hate.

Bill

*)
It is now a well-known fact that animals may be infected and transmit the Corona Virus. If we add to this that many scientists in many countries test sniffer dogs to test people for the virus then we would conclude that they certainly had thought of a way to prevent dogs from getting infected. I mentioned the sniffing of urine-samples in containers because one of the articles I had seen showed a picture of a dog sniffing the urine in containers.

Sadly we cannot add any hyperlinks anymore that would allow for more clarity. But anyone interested to read more could highlight what Prof. Hielm-Björkman / University of Helsinki said, left-click and click on "Search the web for ...."
Try it – the ‘Alliance For Science’ will not only bring up the whole article it will show you as well the photo that I am talking about.

If there is a will there is a way.
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Tat_tvam_asi
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Even Mild Infections Of COVID-19 May Lead To Severe Brain Damage

A new study *) by the University of London (UCL) found a link between Corona infection and an increased risk of fever, nerve damage and strokes. Interestingly it was the milder COVID-19 infections which had a higher incidence of potentially fatal complications, including delirium, nerve damage and strokes.
“We should be vigilant and look out for these complications in people who have had COVID-19. Whether we will see an epidemic on a large scale of brain damage linked to the pandemic – perhaps similar to the encephalitis lethargica (sleeping illness) outbreak in the 1920s and 1930s after the 1918 influenza pandemic - remains to be seen." (Dr. Michael Zandi / Queen Square Institute of Neurology and University of London )

*)
In a cohort of 43 patients aged 16 to 85 years treated at the UCL Hospital
- 10 cases had temporary brain dysfunction,
- 12 cases of encephalitis
- 8 cases of stroke
- 8 cases of nerve damage (mainly Guillain-Barré syndrome which usually occurs after a respiratory or gastrointestinal infection)
(Details published on Medical Xpress/UCL and in the Journal "Brain")

The study results corroborate what Ptaah had told Billy on Jan 30, 2020 (CR 730):
“From the host medium, the lungs, the virus encroaches on the vessels of all organs and begins its actual work of destruction in the form that it calls forth disturbances in the micro region of the organ’s circulation; in fact independent of the inflammation of the lungs. Consequently, life-threatening damage is caused, whereby, for example, infarcts of the vessels occur in the intestine and brain, as well as heart trouble, heart failure and pulmonary embolisms etc. which can ultimately lead to death.”

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