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Newinitiation
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Post Number: 2363
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Posted on Wednesday, July 22, 2020 - 12:17 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The word 'she' is piquing my interest.
I wonder how Billy knew the person 'she' for her to have told him what Mao said to her when she visited him.
Among the famous people from leadership who Billy met throughout his travels I don't recall there being any females.
This begs the question was that 'she' a famous person for surely she had to have been in order to be able to meet up with Mao.
How many famous 'she's' did Billy met over the years.
Not many that I can recall.
Then it leaves just one person.
Shirley Maclaine
She was in China in April 1973.
Mao died in 9.9.1976
Nixon visited him in April 1972.
Mao invited Shirley and she spent 3 weeks there.
Shirley met Billy and spent 2 weeks at SSSC in the 70's so putting all these elements together Billy talking with Ptaah on CR 743 is most probably referring to Shirley Maclaine who told him what Mao said to her.

Matt lee
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Newinitiation
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Posted on Wednesday, July 22, 2020 - 12:31 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yeah Scott it's most probably be saying that he is going to get reelected and he will cause a lot of harm during his second term as president unless of course he becomes one of four leaders who will die within 7 days of each other before his term expires.

With such strident criticism and negative evaluation of the man by Ptaah and Billy which is all true by the way I wouldn't be surprised if Trump does get infected with Coronavirus as his false bravado and stupidity may see him expose himself to unnecessary risk given his cavalier attitude towards this virus where due to his love of golf he may unknowing come in contact with one of his asymptomatic golf buddies who will inadvertently infect him.

Time will tell of course but one's past is a reflection of the present state of the character of a person and the present character shapes the future through the laws of cause and effect for the better or for the worse.

Matt lee
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Phi_spiral
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Posted on Wednesday, July 22, 2020 - 08:38 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yeah, Matt. Shirley MacLaine jumped to mind when I read it, too.
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Patm
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Posted on Wednesday, July 22, 2020 - 08:45 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

My translation of (24) Damages, that the Corona-Virus can produce (Schädigungen, die das Corona-Virus hervorrufen kann), based on the FIGU dictionary (not on DeepL's dictionary) can be found at: https://creationaltruth.org/Portals/0/Documents/Announcements/2020/19-Jul-2020-24-Damages-that-the-Corona-Virus-can-produce-sec.pdf

All the 'FIGU Corona-Virus Warning Service' articles can be found at:
https://creationaltruth.org/Home/Corona-Virus-Warning-Service

-PatM
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Msmichelle
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Posted on Wednesday, July 22, 2020 - 08:47 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I suggest we read these contact reports with the correct "thinking" and not inject our own "limited thinking". Meaning, we are all capable of applying the correct thinking and determine actually who will become the next president of the USA 2020. Just think about it and not overdo as we usually do
MsMichelle (sending peace and love to all)
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Kenneth
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Posted on Wednesday, July 22, 2020 - 12:21 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Matt Lee,

It is my understanding that the person (woman) that talked to Mao has also died. MacLaine is still alive.

Kenneth
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Norm
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Posted on Wednesday, July 22, 2020 - 03:36 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Since when does Shirley MacLaine hate the USA?
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Scott
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Posted on Wednesday, July 22, 2020 - 05:56 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The female mentioned in Contact 743, seems to be a translation error, but corresponds with the "unknown male' who visited Mao as I understand it.
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Hugo
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Posted on Wednesday, July 22, 2020 - 06:56 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If the corona virus partly originates from chairman Mao, then can we say this virus was partially and deliberately created by the Chinese Communist Party to infect America?
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Patm
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Post Number: 810
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Posted on Wednesday, July 22, 2020 - 09:34 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hugo,
From Contact 728:
(FIGU note: The origin of the criminal secret research on the coronavirus was a decision that leads back to the 1970s. At that time, the leader of China, Mao Zedong, met with a vengeful American citizen who presented the Chinese party leader with the idea of developing a viral bioweapon, which Mao Zedong then took up and had implemented as a secret matter, which is still being worked on today and from which the coronavirus has now emerged. This, however, without the current Chinese government being involved in the project in any form or even having the slightest knowledge of it.)
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Getknowledge
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Posted on Wednesday, July 22, 2020 - 11:45 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

What Depocracy. ...”For this purpose, many US atomic bombers were already on the move worldwide for a long time, day and night, without interruption, which could have struck at any time and plunged the earth's surface into a lunar landscape and into nuclear contamination.”...
Tien
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Eddieamartin
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Posted on Thursday, July 23, 2020 - 12:31 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hugo, interesting question.

Here are a few things I thought about.
1. Mao was able to study it and potentially develop something against it.
2. It was originally developed in the USA.
3. The coronavirus was especially infectious with the Chinese genetics.
Salome,
Eddie

In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says:
Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3)
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Tat_tvam_asi
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Posted on Thursday, July 23, 2020 - 02:22 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Great detective work, Matt!

I think your guess (Shirley Mac Laine) may well be correct.
That is to say: Ptaah mentions that the female Billy refers to was speaking to M. "shortly before his death".
So if Shirley Mac Laine spoke to M. 3 years before he died and this qualifies as "shortly before his death" then yes, it could be her.

(Her documentary "The Other Half of The Sky - A China memoir" (SML was its director-writer-star) earned her an Academy Award in 1975)

Well done, Inspector Clouseau.
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Tat_tvam_asi
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Post Number: 1411
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Posted on Thursday, July 23, 2020 - 01:35 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thank you for your translation, Pat.

But checking the text portions that are here discussed I have found 3 errors that led to misconceptions:
Billy:
M. war ein Amerikahasser ohnegleichen und ließ dies gegenüber … verlauten als sie ihn aufsuchte...
M. was an America hater like no other and [he] let this be known to … (Shirley Mac Laine?) when she visited him.

Sie sagte mir, dass M. stinkwütend gewesen sei
She told me that M. had been very furious [raging like hell]

Ptaah:
Was damals von M. kurz vor seinem Tod ... noch erzählte, das wurde von ihr auch aufgezeichnet
That what at that time … (Shirley Mac Laine?) still told about M. shortly before his death [that] was also recorded by her.

So the person who told Billy about M. was definitely a "she".

Salome, Bill

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Michael_horn
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Posted on Thursday, July 23, 2020 - 10:05 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

An unasked question is:

What BECAME of those 12,000 a-bombs?

Were they dismantled, stored, sold, etc.?
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Tat_tvam_asi
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Post Number: 1412
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Posted on Thursday, July 23, 2020 - 10:11 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hugo

Maybe we should start treating the virus danger in our world as a shared responsibility.

Yes, Billy mentions that China waited too long before realizing that this was a grave danger.
But the same mistake (not realizing the seriousness of the virus) happened to most other countries, too.

On a personal level - in CR 743, Billy tells us that the truly guilty person is the one who got his posthumous revenge for his country's sordid government machinations - the American who died decades ago. But we do not know what was done to him, either - what made him so enraged and vengeful to create this horrible virus.
Neither do we know how serious the threat was which made M. so angry about Americans:
Back in 1946 he still satirized the atomic bomb as “… a paper tiger which the reactionaries use to scare people…”.
So maybe the prospect of an insane nuclear war, 12,000 nuclear bombs, carpet bombing etc. may have changed his perception.

My conclusion from reading through the passages of Billy’s Corona Virus CNs:
1. Billy is very adamant - his CRs use bold print to highlight that other countries should not make China a scapegoat for their own failings. His final verdict: The “whole world is to bear the guilt” because nothing much was done, i.e. what was done was done to laxly and late.

2. One of the main reasons that this pandemic could spread so badly is the disunity in our world: If all nations could agree on strict distancing measures for 3 months there would hardly be any virus danger left. People would feel safe. And economies would not be wrecked.

Salome, Bill



(Message edited by scott on July 23, 2020)
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Newinitiation
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Posted on Thursday, July 23, 2020 - 10:23 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ptaah

People in America who have no idea what the reason for the Corona Plague is really based on and that the real culprit died already ten years ago.......

Kenneth I may have got it wrong but in the above sentence it appears that Ptaah is referring to the so called 'culprit' who died 10 years ago rather than the 'she' who revealed to Billy what Mao told her.

Matt lee
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Newinitiation
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Posted on Thursday, July 23, 2020 - 10:24 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yeah Bob its amazing how like minds think alike.

Matt lee
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Michael_horn
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Post Number: 1483
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Posted on Thursday, July 23, 2020 - 03:28 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'monly posting this here because I mentioned COVID-19 in my post on Joe Rogan's FB page. So...

Anyone who wants to post on Joe Rogan’s FB page pertaining to me getting on the show, this link should work:

https://bit.ly/2CYMwBO

Please, tell your friends!

Salome,

MH
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Newinitiation
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Posted on Thursday, July 23, 2020 - 11:22 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks Bill

Mattlock Holmslee
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Newinitiation
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Posted on Thursday, July 23, 2020 - 11:25 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Michael as everyone knows the USA is very charitable towards Israel.

Matt lee
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Hugo
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Posted on Friday, July 24, 2020 - 04:08 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Tat_tvam_asi,

I still don't get it how NO country or person is to blame for the creation and accidental release of this virus because that vengeful American died a decade ago so someone had to continue his biological work on that virus? Or is it a team of biologists working under a corporation ( or military) in that Wuhan biological weapons laboratory? How can the contact reports make out like no one except for that vengeful American is to blame? That is what I don't get.
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Cpl
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Posted on Friday, July 24, 2020 - 06:47 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Hugo, I understand you questioning this. If, however, you do a search online you can find that research has been ongoing in Wuhan for a long time, and a few years back these particular controversial and potentially dangerous, if not illogical and outrageous, international research on "gain of function" studies and experiments were finally made illegal in the US by a group of more than 200 conscience-driven scientists. Not certain, but some material online days Fochi was involved in these outrageous experiments and projects among other research. Once the experiments were made illegal in the US the researchers and funders then arranged for all research to be shipped off to Wuhan to be continued there.

It is an international effort with many countries involved on apparently military-connected top secret projects. So governments would not necessarily know about it. The experiments are probably performed on a need to know basis only. Not only do governments not need to know, it is safer for them to have plausible deniability. Thy can then honestly say, "We know nothing about that" and it would lead, as it has, to cries of "That is an outrageous claim" because the governments may not have a clue what is going on and naturally assume innocence on the part of its country. Maybe they should have known, and maybe that is the measure of their guilt. But the greater guilt must lie not with the governments, but with the international primary funders, pushers, and performers of the experiments since these experiments are internationally funded and researched at least to some degree in secret.

Hope this helps.
Chris

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