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Author Message Lemontree Member Post Number: 80 Registered: 08-2012 Posted on Monday, March 30, 2020 - 02:22 pm:        Thanks for detailed answers. Hugo Member Post Number: 827 Registered: 04-2015 Posted on Monday, March 30, 2020 - 06:19 pm:        Tat_tvam_asi, Thanks for the time in doing that answer! I still would like to hear more from Billy about the matter, mainly what race the Creator Overlords were. I can't remember where I heard they were white, if they are that. Too bad questions to Billy are closed. Tat_tvam_asi Member Post Number: 1254 Registered: 04-2011 Posted on Tuesday, March 31, 2020 - 10:43 am:        You are welcome, Hugo. Yes, it would be interesting to know more about this race - esp. their thinking and when it all happened. After all did not our spirit forms relate to them …? We know that Henoch's races split into 2 branches (Lyra and Sirius star systems) some 12 billion years ago. We know that 7 billion years ago the Sirian Races lost the knowledge of their origin (their historians creating a different tale of their origin) But when did the gene-manipulation happen? CR 251 does not tell when the non-yellow slave warriors fled to Mars/Malona/Earth - we only know that Malona exploded ca. 73,000 BCE*) Neither does CR 251 tell us when the 2 large yellow races fled to Kudra. We only know that they were forced to leave Kudra, due to overpopulation, and found refuge in Nisan in the Lyra system some 2.4 million years ago. From this we may infer that the gene-manipulation must have happened more than 2.4 million years ago. And that - since then - the MIB kept their long-term hate alive - it must have become a hereditary gene!**) And why would the creator overlords not remove the gene manipulation (from what may well have been their children) once these had beaten their enemies? I mean - they were highly evolved human beings - they knew "genetical engineering" - Or were the slave warriors already too uncontrollable /rebellious? Many questions... *) http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Event_Timeline **) Even if the creator overlords lived on avg. 2000 years - the hate would have endured for 1200 generations... Hugo Member Post Number: 830 Registered: 04-2015 Posted on Tuesday, March 31, 2020 - 08:25 pm:        Tat_tvam_asi, Yes it would be interesting to know more about their race. But the Creator Overlords had to be white because the Plejaren are descendants from them. I guess only Billy could answer how the yellow races were part of them too. Str0323 Member Post Number: 83 Registered: 02-2012 Posted on Wednesday, April 01, 2020 - 09:30 pm:        How does the so called red race, Native American Indians, meld into the earths' human beings evolution? Salome Scott Reed Kenneth Member Post Number: 1136 Registered: 04-2013 Posted on Saturday, May 16, 2020 - 03:16 pm:        In sorting through and discarding some old material and books from past studies prior to discovering the Teaching, came across a book titled, “Bhagavad-gita, As It Is”. This is based on ancient history in India and related cultures, Nonetheless, it is much like the bible, as Billy says is a book of lies. This book has some unique pictures within that depict the blue race of human beings. What is also interesting, the picture illustration distinguishes a chariot ( Earthling mode of travel and for war at the time) with two occupants, a driver and a weaponeer, one of the white race and one of the blue race shooting arrows of energy depicted with a bow & arrows, (state of the art weaponry at the time for Earthlings). The chariot’s canopy is shaped exactly like a beamship and gold-bronze in color. The second picture is of a human being of the blue race in unison with nature-creation. The only reason that I bring this up; never really understood these pictures until after studying the true Teaching as provided by Billy. Apparently, the Blue Race is still worshiped in India as God’s or Demi-Gods. Kenneth Newinitiation Member Post Number: 2318 Registered: 07-2005 Posted on Saturday, May 16, 2020 - 09:29 pm:        Kenneth you said 'The only reason that I bring this up; never really understood these pictures until after studying the true Teaching as provided by Billy. Apparently, the Blue Race is still worshiped in India as God’s or Demi-Gods'. It's amazing indeed Kenneth that time and time again every one of the statements made by the plejaren and Billy has always contained implications for the future that always seems to be corroborated in so many ways and in so many instances as it becomes reality as time goes on. There is no wastage with their words. Its direct to the point and directly about the truth. Its not just applicable to the prophecies but also to their everyday conversation in the contact notes. Similar to you it had that same effect on me as well. It was only after I dealt with Billy's information and not before that I started taking interest in ancient history which was why I was able to discover the most incredible find of this century about the ancient structures and colossal engineering works in Sydney New South Wales Australia. So much is made possible by Billy and the plejaren just from their conversation alone in the CR which must not only be encoded with the code impulses but it is linguistically structured in specific sequence that leaves its mark on the subconsciousness of the reader where like a germinating seed endowed with so much potential, works its magic within the consciousness of the reader that extends its effect far into the future as more information is added. I don't consider myself all that intelligent or smart and often I do some really moronic and downright dumb things to the point where I would consider myself pretty stupid on the average scale of intelligence and I am not being self deprecating, false modest or putting myself down but I'd noticed a remarkable phenomenon in that the more you study Billy's material the smarter and the more intelligent you get. Matt lee Phi_spiral New member Post Number: 5 Registered: 04-2020 Posted on Sunday, May 17, 2020 - 03:44 pm:        Yes, Kenneth, our ET heritage has been “hiding in plain sight". Vedic Scriptures, especially the four Vedas, Puranas and Itihasas clearly mention about existence of extraterrestrial species and their interactions with humans since the Vedic era. These extraterrestrial beings are of different categories and you can find a lot of good analysis of that on the internet if you look in the right places. Below is another example of the beamship meme positioned above a deity. The beamship motif worked its’ way through Hindu and Buddhist art alike. Phi_spiral New member Post Number: 5 Registered: 04-2020 Posted on Sunday, May 17, 2020 - 03:50 pm:        In ancient Buddhist art, “Enlightened Ones” were often depicted with elongated earlobes similar to the Plejaren and with beamships hovering above in the sky as shown in the picture below. Phi_spiral New member Post Number: 5 Registered: 04-2020 Posted on Sunday, May 17, 2020 - 04:28 pm:        Long before I came upon the Meier material I practiced a meditation that involved focusing on a sri yantra mandala. The mandala that I used was a very old Tibetan Buddhist design and around the periphery could be seen the very distinctive and unmistakable shapes of beamships. Unfortunately, I don't have any pictures of that one but I grabbed this from the internet that I think gives the same flavor of what I am talking about. The point being is that the shape was associated with higher consciousness even though it's one-time utilitarian role as a spacecraft was lost to them. Phi_spiral New member Post Number: 5 Registered: 04-2020 Posted on Sunday, May 17, 2020 - 04:55 pm:        This is a sketch for a Buddhist temple based on the spaceship motif found in the Zhi-tro mandala which dates back to Padmasambhava and the emergence of Tibetan Buddhism. It will be built in the Himalayas and used by Buddhists and Hindus alike. Phi_spiral New member Post Number: 5 Registered: 04-2020 Posted on Sunday, May 17, 2020 - 05:12 pm:        This is a picture of the Wat Phra Dhammakaya Buddhist (Theravada sect) temple located north of Bangkok, Thailand. It's design inspiration comes from the beamship motif found in Hindu and Buddhist religious art and in particular mandala design for which they now associate the shape with higher consciousness. Tat_tvam_asi Member Post Number: 1332 Registered: 04-2011 Posted on Monday, May 18, 2020 - 04:17 am:        Hi Phi Spiral, Welcome back to the forum, Bob. During the years of your absence we had some lengthy discussions re. the blue race and vimanas that you may be interested in: http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/14/16831.html#POST86847 (there are three further hyperlinks in this post 1024 [July 9, 2019] - if the hyperlink does not work: you find it in the ancient history archive through to July 13, 2019) Salome, Bill Phi_spiral Member Post Number: 5 Registered: 04-2020 Posted on Monday, May 18, 2020 - 04:02 pm:        Thank you, Bill, for the link and I will definitely check it out. Yes, I have a lot of catching up to do! Cheers! Bob Newinitiation Member Post Number: 2337 Registered: 07-2005 Posted on Saturday, June 13, 2020 - 06:41 pm:        There is a vast region around the great Gobi A and the great Gobi B where streaks upon streaks of desolate sands and terrain is marked with what looks to be great quantities of water having drained out. Now around this region there are also huge former lake beds empitied out. Notice also these concentric ring marks 5th contact 194. But Mu was also eliminated and ceased to exist, thus only the subterranean city of Agharta was left. 194. Doch auch Mu wurde vernichtet und hörte auf zu existieren, so nur noch die unterirdische Stadt Agharta übrigblieb. 56. So, Greater Atlantis alone had at its disposal an army of 4.83 million (4,830,000) men, which was equipped with small-combat-beam ships. 56. So verfügte allein Grossatlantis über ein Streitheer von 4,83 Millionen (4 830 000) Mann, das ausgerüstet war mit Klein-Kampf-Strahlschiffen. 57. Furthermore, the government of Atlantis commanded a giant fleet of 123,000 units of single-man-destroyers, miniature beam ships for close Earth combat. 57. Im weiteren befehligte die Regierung von Atlantis eine Gigantflotte von 123 000 Einheiten Einmannzerstörern, Kleinststrahlschiffen für den Erdnahkampf. 58. In addition there existed another 16,431 eliminator units, miniature beam ships, which, through the effects of heat, were able to totally eliminate all material within fractions of a second. 58. Danebst waren noch 16 431 Eliminatoreinheiten vorhanden, Kleinststrahlschiffe, die durch Hitzeeinwirkungen jegliche Materie innerhalb Sekundenbruchteilen total zu eliminieren vermochten. 59. Finally they were equipped also with 24,230 overkill beamers, each of which required 10 men to operate and were installed in midrange-beam-ships. 59. Endlich verfügten sie noch über 24 230 Overkill-Strahler, die je 10 Mann Bedienung erforderten und in Mittelklasse-Strahlschiffen eingebaut waren. The whole of this region right up to the middle east appears to be scorched and totally decimated by sophisticated weapons the Atlantians possessed and utilised during the greatest world war in earth's history. It also appears that like it was the case for the north western part of Africa right into the whole of middle east and even further extending to Tajikistan Gobi A and Gobi B had suffered from the effects of mega tsunami during the war with Atlantis where great lakes were weaponised and made into tsunami bombs. This whole scorched region is the legacy and an apt reminder of the insanities of the insane people and the insanities of war as a byproduct of megalomania and power lust to which our present day so called leaders also suffer from. What remains is either nothing but dust or kilometers of water above you either way you are buried. I think people like being cemeteried. Matt lee Tat_tvam_asi Member Post Number: 1415 Registered: 04-2011 Posted on Friday, July 31, 2020 - 12:12 pm:        >>> Did The First Upright Walking Humanoid Come From Germany? <<<? CR 650 http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_650 Ptaah: 46. " ...So, in later times, the earthly human beings developed from the 'Homo erectus' but as well various intermediate species [emerged from the Homo Erectus], namely in today's Asian regions as well as in Africa, whereby a very important basic origin was [given/situated] in Europe, namely in today's Germany, where a basic form of life developed, from which finally a human form of life emerged, which then, however, completely developed in the southern hemisphere..." This would indicate that the many scientific reports we have read about “human life originating in Africa” are untrue. That, indeed, life developed in the area of today's Germany before migrating to the southern hemisphere (Africa ?). And a new scientific study seems to confirm what Ptaah told Billy on April 4, 2016: *) Recent findings of an international group of researchers analyzing fossils found in Bavaria between 2015 and 2018, seem to prove that the upright walk of today's human being, developed in Europe and not, as previously assumed, in Africa. According to an article in today’s German newspaper “Welt” (referring to a study published in “Nature”) a research team led by M. Böhme from the University of Tübingen and the Senckenberg Centre for Human Evolution and Palaeo-Environment assumes that the ancestor of man and ape, which was recently discovered in in Lower Allgäu / Southern Germany, was able to walk on two legs almost twelve million years ago: "This is a great moment in palaeoanthropology and a paradigm shift," said Böhme to the German Press Agency. "The fact that the process of upright walking took place in Europe shakes the very foundations of palaeo-anthropology..." The scientists had at their disposal the completely preserved arm and leg bones, vertebrae, finger and toe bones (some 15 percent of the skeleton). "This allowed us to reconstruct how "Danuvius" **) moved about," said Prof. Böhme. "For the first time we were able to examine several functionally important joints - including elbow, hip, knee and ankle in a single fossil skeleton of this age. To our amazement, some bones resembled more the human body than the apes." *) Many of the not yet known truths that we find in the CRs, are confirmed a short period (e.g. a few years) later... **) They seem to have named the archetypal humanoid after the river Danube which flows through Bavaria Cpl Member Post Number: 1310 Registered: 08-2004 Posted on Friday, July 31, 2020 - 06:20 pm:        Thanks, Bill. Very interesting. Chris Use to the best both heart and head and never lose either. Tat_tvam_asi Member Post Number: 1417 Registered: 04-2011 Posted on Saturday, August 01, 2020 - 09:09 am:        "Danuvius Guggenmosi" Yes, Chris - this new "ancestor of man" is truly stunning. As is the match with Ptaah's information. (From Ptaah's further explanations in CR 650*) "... 54. Homo Erectus was - contrary to the false assertions of earthly researchers and scientists - about 2.7 million years ago the successor of those first human beings, who emerged from the first hominid primate-like beings, but who were not primates but first hominid beings, only that they still looked wild and primate-like in their outward appearance, but had no relation to primates. 55. According to our research, the first of these species already existed on earth about 12 million years ago..." 12 million years ago - well the so-called "Danuvius guggenmosi" lived 11.62 million years ago! 'Danuvius' kept his trunk upright by means of an S-shaped spine, whereas great apes only have a single curved spine. And his knees and stable angle joint - they would have been too clumsy for climbing. I.e. he obviously used his legs for walking and only his arms for climbing trees: "Danuvius combined bi-pedality dominated by the rear limbs, with climbing dominated by the front limbs," said co-author David Begun of the University of Toronto. "Taken together, the finds provide the best model to date for showing what a common ancestor of humans and African great apes might have looked like," commented Tracy Kivell, Professor at the University of Kent (who was not a member of the research team) when assessing the study published in "Nature". -------------------------------------- For anyone wondering why a monkey-like humanoid "roamed around" in what is today Germany: Then, ca. 12 million years ago, the temp. in Germany was much higher (yearly average: ca. 20 degrees Celsius) than it is today (Avg. Low 6 degr. - Avg High 13 degrees Celsius) My hypothesis: When the climate turned colder he "hurried off" to the southern hemisphere (Africa). At that time there was a land bridge between Europe and Africa: The Mediterranean Sea only formed much later (according to our scientists: some 5.3 million years ago) - maybe it was once the riverbed of the Nile River (fr. semitic "nahal" = "valley"): "...The Nile entered into the Atlantic Ocean. What is now the Sahara was an inhabited land and very fertile..." -- Edgar Cayce reading 364-13 *) http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/The_Pleiadian/Plejaren_Contact_Reports Tat_tvam_asi Member Post Number: 1425 Registered: 04-2011 Posted on Tuesday, August 11, 2020 - 06:27 am:        >>> Ceres an Ocean World <<< Today the Guardian newspaper reports that “dwarf planet Ceres is an ocean world”. This confirms what we know about Malona/Phaeton of which Ceres is a fragment: “Malona, or rather Phaeton, was destroyed in fratricidal wars by its genetically-manipulated inhabitants who had originally come from the Sirius regions, and who blew up the planet by diverting parts of an ocean into the subterranean or underwater magma chambers of a gigantic volcano. …” We know from Quetzal that this great tragedy happened at the time they built the pyramids in Egypt the very first time (some 73,000 years ago *) *) CR 155:73 http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_155 All details about the man-made cosmic catastrophe which caused the planet to explode can be found here: http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Malona Bronzedesk Member Post Number: 252 Registered: 01-2011 Posted on Tuesday, August 11, 2020 - 11:46 am:        Dearest Tat_tvam_asi Wish I knew your first name but just a passing thought. With the Egyptians at that time being really into stargazing I wonder if there were records ever kept of Phaeton/Malona's demise? I'm almost certain that if so, it would have been recorded by the Pharaoh's scribes and then at that time appointed court astronomers. Case being: 'Egyptian astronomy has been termed "primitive" or "non-existent" far too many times: It is, therefore, appropriate to assemble the actual achievements of Egyptian astronomy and let the facts speak for themselves. The ancients unencumbered by racism could take a more honest view of the matter: for example, Aristotle wrote: "...the Egyptians and Babylonians have studied these matters thoroughly since time immemorial, and through whom we have many reliable reports about each of the stars and visible planets." Please always be and stay safe in these troubled times ahead for us all! bronzedesk Mat Mat, if you look at the bottom of some of Tat_tvam_asi's posts you will find his name _ (Message edited by scott on August 11, 2020) And the end of all our exploring, will be to arrive where we started, and know the place for the first time. ~ T. S. Eliot Tat_tvam_asi Member Post Number: 1426 Registered: 04-2011 Posted on Wednesday, August 12, 2020 - 03:04 am:        Thank you, Scott. Salome, Bill Tat_tvam_asi Member Post Number: 1427 Registered: 04-2011 Posted on Wednesday, August 12, 2020 - 04:21 am:        "The legacy of the insanities of insane people ..." Thank you, Matt for highlighting this point. “... The whole of this region right up to the middle east appears to be scorched and totally decimated by sophisticated weapons the Atlantians possessed and utilised during the greatest world war in earth's history…” I, too, think that the “looking down on others”, the intrigues, madness and materialism of our world today, including the world wars that happened and might happen, they are but a re-run of the “to be improved” evil of ancient times *) – esp. the “world wars” that happened in 9498 BCE (Atlantis and Mu) and in 38,023 (descendants of Pelegon). If we accept Edgar Cayce’s readings as true than 44 % of the people of our times are the descendants of those that perished on or before these cataclysms occurred. “Be it true that there is the fact of reincarnation…is it any wonder then that those who made such alterations in the affairs of the earth in their day, as if to bring destruction upon themselves, if they are entering now they might make many changes in the affairs of people and individuals in the present” (Reading 364-1) Salome, Bill *) E.g. http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/14/14760.html#POST78429 Tat_tvam_asi Member Post Number: 1428 Registered: 04-2011 Posted on Wednesday, August 12, 2020 - 05:22 am:        Mat, 1. May I first say that the more we accept all beings with equality and love, the greater the insights and wisdom this universe reveals to us. 2. Not quite sure if you refer to the third time the pyramids were built (around 12,000 BCE) rather than the time they were first built (around 71,344 BCE) which coincided with the time of Malona’s destruction. 3. Re. their “recording of events” by Egyptians: According to Egyptian mythology it was (the ibis-headed god) Thoth who taught the Egyptians to write. Edgar Cayce’s readings *) may tell us when this may have been: “… In Egypt when there were gathering s of those that had escaped from the land that was destroyed or the Atlantean land. Entity **) persuaded many to make for activities that would preserve to the people what would be recipes, placards, drawings, etc. These were the first of such to be brought to Egyptian natives and first attempts to make for a written language…(Edgar Cayce / Reading 2916-1, Feb. 11,1943) “Atlantean land destroyed …” – this may refer to a time shortly after 9498 BCE. Or maybe some time before that ominous date: it may well be that the hordes of Arus had already hit Atlantis with 9/11 like terrorist attacks, causing more and more Atlanteans to flee. **) It is but one of the many readings from Edgar Cayce that tell us that Atlantean people came to Egypt at that time. That Atlanteans visited Egypt is implicitly confirmed by Ptaah (he mentioned that one of his ancestors was the Ptah, which the Egyptians revered as “God” that taught Egyptians architecture and crafts). From this I conclude that the first attempts in writing they did happen in Egypt but long after the time when the pyramids were first built (ca. 71,344 BCE). And that at that time there was no written language. So 'those working on the pyramids then (around 71,344 BCE)' would not have "recorded" this event – even if they were seeing it – or experiencing some flow-on from it (as the displacement of Mars may have been a part of a SOL wide readjustment of the gravitation SOL's celestial bodies. Salome, Bill NB According to EC, the ability to access these records, arose from his deep desire to help people relieve their sufferings. It is but one example that unselfish love for all will give us unsurpassed insights / wisdom. **) I infer that, apart from sometimes adding religious comments to his readings, EC's statements are accurate: http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/FIGU_Bulletin_001#Aid_to_Russia *) “Entity” is the person EC gave a reading to: Usually people came to him with an ailment for which they could not find a cure. He was then ^) able to access the Akashic Records (AR) ^^) and, tracing the origin of the ailment, often found the cause in a previous life which, in some 44 % of his patients was an incarnation in Atlantis. Hence the snippets of insights in the time of Atlantis we have form him. ^) His readings of the AR came to him in a trance-like state hence he is often called the “sleeping prophet” ^^) Akashic Records may be similar to what Billy calls the Storage Banks **) Sadly we do not have more information from the Plejaren about the political turbulences and intrigues when the Children of the Law of One ^) realized that “there was the breaking up of the Poseidian or Atlantean land” (EC, Reading 1007-3, June 26, 1938) Knowing the past would be helpful to explain and improve the present. (Or is this knowledge not given, on purpose, so that we re-enact the events in our world without this foreknowledge?) ^) http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/14/13401.html#POST72564 (see after **) http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/14/14760.html#POST78413 http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/14/14199.html#POST76862

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