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Cpl Member
Post Number: 1283 Registered: 08-2004
| Posted on Wednesday, July 01, 2020 - 09:37 am: |
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RE your post 1378, Bill: Do you know what CN that was in? Chris Use to the best both heart and head and never lose either.
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Tat_tvam_asi Member
Post Number: 1382 Registered: 04-2011
| Posted on Wednesday, July 01, 2020 - 09:55 pm: |
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Thank you for questioning the source, Chris. No, I simply analysed the undated article that Kenneth referred to. But since you mentioned it, I had a closer look at it and found in the "References" section on the bottom of the article a hyperlink *) to a 2014 “Questions To Billy” section on our Forum which clearly states that the 'Destroyer' will not come back anymore. Maybe James, the website admin could find out who posted when this article - and ask its author whether it only refers to the info in CR 150, 238 and 251 that the article lists. If so, (or if no author is found), the article should be amended with the newer (2014) info, - best starting with a sentence that “According to a 2014-information by the SSSC the destroyer comet will not return because it has been influenced by the Plejaren onto a course which leads it away from Earth." It would certainly clear any misconceptions. Bill *) http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/12/13020.html?1390692613#POST68645
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Tat_tvam_asi Member
Post Number: 1383 Registered: 04-2011
| Posted on Wednesday, July 01, 2020 - 10:32 pm: |
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Sorry - I just see that this sentence has been added (now?) - so no need to contact James... Bill |
   
Felinity Member
Post Number: 88 Registered: 09-2019
| Posted on Thursday, July 02, 2020 - 08:47 am: |
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I'm confident that Billy's acronym of BEAM is of great importance in figuring out how to knock out Apophis. I don't know why, but last night, I decided to take a glance at my husband's book, Semiconductor Terahertz Technology Devices and Systems at Room Temperature Operation. Copyright 2015 John Wiley & Sons, Ltd. Page 168: "A quasi-optical waveguide or beam waveguide is made of focusing lenses or mirrors, which maintain the energy in a beam in the free space. Quasi-optical waveguides are used from about 100GHz up to infrared waves. Section 4.3 is devoted to the beam waveguide and quasi-optics." Page 183 - 4.3 Beam Waveguides "As losses in metallic and dielectric waveguides increase with frequency, it becomes advantageous to transmit electromagnetic radiation through free-space. In this section we describe beam waveguides: optical systems used to propagate radiation as free-space beams. Unlike traditional optics, at GHz and THz frequencies beams may be only moderately large when compared with the wavelength and so diffraction effects can become important. In this case we often talk about quasi-optics. Gaussian beam modes are a natural mode-set to describe quasi-optical beams with a well-defined direction of propagation, just as TE and TM modes were used to describe propagation in metallic waveguides (Section 4.2.1). In practice, the lowest-order Gaussian mode often suffices for a good description of a propagating beam. We begin this section by describing the behavior of these Gaussian beams. Quasi-optical or beam waveguides are typically made of lenses or mirrors used to refocus the diffracting beam at regular intervals. Here we describe the operation and modeling of these components as well as the horn antennas often used to launch them. A more detailed discussion of quasi-optical beams and components can be found in, for example, Ref. [33-36]." I've neither taken a physics nor a calculus course, but there might be something to this. Belinda |
   
Cpl Member
Post Number: 1284 Registered: 08-2004
| Posted on Friday, July 03, 2020 - 02:41 am: |
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Yes, That's why I asked for the CN because I knew it isn't coming back; but we never know if there's a more recent CN updating a previous one. I think James has problems keeping it all up to date. It's more than a full-time job and he needed to give time to his wife and family so cut down on hours working on it. So, thanks for the confirmation, again, Bill, that the Destroyer is never coming back here. I've been telling Planet X New Agers this for years. They finally seem to have become a bit quieter, after so much wasted energy and missed years of immanent catastrophe. If only they'd realize the real danger is Apophis! Chris Use to the best both heart and head and never lose either.
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Kenneth Member
Post Number: 1152 Registered: 04-2013
| Posted on Thursday, July 09, 2020 - 10:34 am: |
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Thanks Phi_spiral (Bob), Oops, I did not catch my typo until your response in the Thinking And Thoughts thread, the Pi value should have said, 3.144605511… Kenneth |
   
Kenneth Member
Post Number: 1153 Registered: 04-2013
| Posted on Thursday, July 09, 2020 - 11:35 pm: |
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While I am on this “Plejaren asteroid warning” discussion board, is there anyone interested in proving the true Pi value of 3.144605511… So far there are only a handful of folks that took the time and trouble to perform the rather simple task of measuring the perimeter of a 1-meter circle to come up with and prove True Pi of 3.144605511… This has everything to do with Asteroid Apophis. Note: Moderator, it is my understanding that Mr. Harry Lear’s internet address is allowed? If that has changed, please remove it. A little math skill may be necessary. It has always been assumed that the perimeter or circumference measurement of a 1-meter circle was 3.141592654… This is incorrect! Very few have actually bothered to perform the physical task like Mr. Lear has and published his results on his web site http://measuringpisquaringphi.com/. It can be as simple as drawing an exact 1-meter circle on foam-board, cutting the circle out with a beam cutter, and measuring the circumference, that is it. Harry Lear provides details on the types of measuring tapes to be used. We are adding to the number of folks that proved the True Pi. Excerpt from Mr. Harry Lear’s description on proving how to find the True Pi, this takes some math skills: Note: This is not necessary to perform the measurement as explained above: “The simplest math proof is just to do a special "squaring" of the sides of Kepler's Golden Ratio Triangle where Pi x Diam = 4 x Side. Pi x Diam is the circumference of a circle and 4 x Side is the perimeter of a square. For Kepler's Triangle, the squaring reveals that Circumf = Perimeter. Carry this out just for fun to about 40 decimal places for all values in the equation and Circumf still equals EXACTLY the Perimeter of the square. Math Proof # 6 on my web site. So, yes, I do use Phi and right triangles to obtain true Pi. In fact, its simplicity is probably why many mathematicians and the NASA boys don't believe it. It certainly contradicts everything they have learned at university. Me, too, but I'm nosey and decided to pursue it.” Sincerely Kenneth |
   
Phi_spiral Member
Post Number: 31 Registered: 04-2020
| Posted on Saturday, July 11, 2020 - 08:27 pm: |
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Hi Kenneth I am an architect, actually, and not a mathematician. My interest in phi and phi-spiral began in architecture school from a personal need to understand why humans respond positively to aesthetic beauty and what causes the conscious mind to make determinations that one thing is attractive and another is not. I did take college calculus, however. Below is a rough draft of a letter that I intend to send to the organization, B612, and would welcome input, thoughts, suggestions before I do. Here is the draft as it is now: To Ed Lu CEO and Co-founder of B612 Foundation Dear Ed, I share your organization's concerns about the safety and welfare of mankind on planet Earth and applaud your organization's vigilance in the monitoring of potential asteroid threats. And I have read your various research articles on methodologies to prevent them; such as laser ablation, beam shepherding, focused solar energy and gravity tractor. There is a research paper entitled, Accurate Determination of Comet and Asteroid Orbits Leading to Collision With Earth, that was prepared by scientists from NASA Langley Research Center, Colorado Center for Astrodynamics Research University of Colorado and Analytical Mechanics Associates Inc. Do you personally or B612 in general use that paper as the primary reference to model their projections of comet and asteroid orbits leading to collision with Earth? You may be aware that the value of pi has changed through history. The Greek mathematician Archimedes, for instance, came up with a different value (slightly higher) by use of geometry and ratios. The Italian mathematician, Fibonacci, (Fibonacci sequence, the golden ratio, phi) also computed a slightly higher number for pi using a polygonal method, independent of Archimedes. Viète, Newton, Wallis, Madhava, Leibniz, Nilakantha: were all revered and respected mathematicians throughout the centuries; and they all calculated different values for pi. More recently, I have read the warnings of an esteemed group, who I consider quite knowledgeable in advanced math and the sciences, having proven themselves so in the past, and who now claim that by using a more accurate value of pi, they have determined in their calculation that the asteroid, 99942 Apophis is on a collision course with Earth. We may not be able to come to an agreement on the true value of pi; but, we should acknowledge that there is not an agreement since the smallest of disparity may be just large enough to mean the difference in our survival. In 2004, the asteroid, Apophis, became the first object on the Torino Scale to be rated level 2, Subsequently it was upgraded to level 4 — the current record for highest Torino rating, although it was later downgraded to level 1. In 2005, the Advanced Concepts Team at ESA, demonstrated and showed how to deflect the asteroid Apophis with a small kinetic impactor mission. In 2007, NASA released a study wherein the asteroid Apophis is assumed to still be on an impact trajectory with Earth for the year 2029, and the report determines that a "Cradle spacecraft" would be sufficient to deflect it from Earth impact. This conceptual spacecraft contains six B83 physics packages, each set for their maximum 1.2-megatonne yield, bundled together and lofted by an Ares V vehicle sometime in the 2020s. In 2011, the director of the Asteroid Deflection Research Center at Iowa State University, Bong Wie, who had published kinetic impactor deflection studies previously, began to study strategies that could deal with 50-to-500-metre-diameter (200–1,600 ft) objects when the time to Earth impact was less than one year. In 2014, at the NASA Innovative Advanced Concepts (NIAC) conference, Wie and his colleagues stated that "we have the solution, using our baseline concept, to be able to mitigate the asteroid-impact threat, with any range of warning." For example, according to their computer models, with a warning time of 30 days, a 300-metre-wide (1,000 ft) asteroid would be neutralized by using a single HAIV, with less than 0.1% of the destroyed object's mass potentially striking Earth. As of 2015, Wie has collaborated with the Danish Emergency Asteroid Defence Project (EADP), which ultimately intends to crowdsource sufficient funds to design, build, and store a non-nuclear HAIV spacecraft as planetary insurance. As a potential donor/sponsor to B612, can you tell me does your organization work with Wie and EADP on this project or do they have plans to? That is to say would my contributions to B612 partially be going to this enterprise? Concurrently, does this project, to the best of your knowledge have the best potential to deflect Apophis in 2029? In these unique and unstable times where government leaders have concerned themselves more with short-term advantages versus making the tougher long-term decisions, I think people will need to rely more on the collective will of non-political forward thinkers. I thank you, Ed, in advance for your insights. Regards Bob |
   
Kenneth Member
Post Number: 1156 Registered: 04-2013
| Posted on Sunday, July 12, 2020 - 10:37 am: |
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Hello Bob (Phi_spiral), Thanks for the reply. I have worked with many architect’s in my career, I like the way they think. Most work with truthful proven facts. The verity that you are on the FIGU site in my opinion means that you are more advanced and open minded than most of the population today. Your letter to the B612 Foundation is professionally written and shows that you have done your research. Would be interested in the Foundations reaction to your letter. As you are aware, the B612 Foundation is a US-based non-profit organization run by former astronauts Ed Lu and Rusty Schweickart. NASA got on board in 2012, when it signed its Space Act Agreement with the organization. Unfortunately, around 2015 NASA cut its ties with the B612 Foundation. Apparently, NASA had a Space Act Agreement with the foundation to help develop the vehicle without giving out much money. NASA terminated the agreement because the Foundation has not started development on their spacecraft as per an important milestone laid out in the contract. The cost of the mission in 2012, was estimated to be $450 million, to date, the Foundation has raised less than 5 million. But one never knows, NASA may be open to signing another Space Act Agreement with the B612 Foundation in the future, if they are still around? I don’t know if you are aware, there are several of us scientists, engineers and entrepreneurs working on the Apophis Team Project Defense (ATPD) endeavoring to educate various organizations and professionals including NASA, JPL and Space-X to name a few, on the correct Pi of 3.144605511… ATPD does not seek funding and we are not building a spacecraft. This is on our own dime.
In 2013 Anatoly Perminov, the chief of Russia’s space program invited the European Space Agency, the Chinese space agency and others to join in an international project to deflect the Apophis asteroid from a possible collision with Earth in 2029 or 2036. It appears that Russia’s sudden concern and call to action may have been prompted by information published by UFO contactee Billy Meier, 13 years before “official” discovery in 2004. Meier, stated that the information was first provided to him by extraterrestrial human beings in 1981. The 350-meter-wide asteroid striking Earth would "split the crust of the Earth from the North Sea to the Black Sea and create a new continent". Russia's proposed cooperative actions closely reflect Meier's advice. They may believe him more than NASA, which officially reduced the odds of collision to about 1 in 330,000. Billy Meier's American media representative, Michael Horn, added, "Meier was told that only earth scientists could stop this event. Considering the extraterrestrial source and the proven accuracy of Meier's copyrighted and published predictions, all of us should be encouraging NASA to cooperate with Russia and the international scientific community." Kenneth |
   
Kenneth Member
Post Number: 1157 Registered: 04-2013
| Posted on Sunday, July 12, 2020 - 02:10 pm: |
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Hi Bob, (Phi_spiral), I shared your well written letter with Mr. Harry Lear, this is what he had to say: Hi Ken, Just wanted to let you know that I have previously -- more than a year or two ago -- contacted Ed Lu and the B612 Foundation and informed them about the corrected value of Pi, how to measure it, and how to do the math proof. They have not responded. One of the problems with contacting NASA and the ESA and the B612 Foundation is that many individuals with different backgrounds are making physics and engineering suggestions about the proper method(s) to prevent (i.e. blow up or whatever) an Asteroid Strike against planet Earth. That probably turns off the astro-physicists so that they do not bother looking into whether Pi has been corrected to EXACTLY equal 4 / sqrt (Phi) by (1) direct physical measurement, and (2) easy to follow math proofs. For example, I am not in a position to tell NASA or any other space group HOW to solve the physics of the asteroid problem; I am only trying to inform them how to discover and prove the true value of Pi so that they can re-run their simulation calcs and solve the Asteroid 99942 Apophis problem themselves. So, it's OK for Mr. Bob (Phi Spiral) to contact the B612 Foundation about the history of Pi in math but I personally think it would be better to just inform Ed Lu and the boys over and over that they can easily prove the correct value of Pi for themselves in the lab by simply measuring the Pi circumference of a 1 unit diameter circle. Then, after their multiple measurements, when they finally see for themselves what Pi is, then they can look at the math proofs (if they need to) to verify how they can use Kepler's Golden Ratio Triangle to do a math proof for Pi. Or they can look at my 4-5 math proofs for Pi at www.measuringpisquaringphi.com . Until they do these steps, especially the The Scientific Method of measurement and observation, there is not much to say to the B612 Foundation or even NASA or the ESA or the NIST. If nobody is going to check the measurements for themselves, then you can bet that all they will be doing is checking their old math books and regurgitating all the wrong math "proofs" which are only approximations for Pi. Everybody in academia and the government space programs are fearful about losing their jobs if they dare pop up and say, "Hey, boss, guess what? I think current Pi is wrong." They must show the measurement proof or they will never get to the math and physics part of whether Asteroid 99942 Apophis will be a "near-miss" or a direct hit on planet Earth. Thanks, Harry |
   
Phi_spiral Member
Post Number: 40 Registered: 04-2020
| Posted on Sunday, July 19, 2020 - 03:13 pm: |
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Hi Kenneth Thank you for your input regarding my letter to Dr. Lu as well as those from Harry Lear. I have a good deal of admiration for your efforts in regards to bringing attention of this topic to public forum as well as Michael Horn’s. I continue to make modifications to the letter, refining it and intend to send it soon. As way of explanation of why I am choosing the tactic of focusing on historical incongruities as to the true value of pi, is that I don’t think it is as necessary to convince scientists what the real value of pi is, but to plant enough seeds of doubt in their minds that the proper preparations are critical to make now in case they are wrong. I will share with you this passage from Billy’s book, Aus den Tiefen des Weltenraums, found in the prophecies and predictions chapter because I wasn't sure if you were aware of it. It essentially projects that Earth scientists will not determine the correct value of pi until far in the future and under a different type of Earth threatening. The time will come when violent changes in the SOL system will take place as the nuclear fusion weakens. Es kommt die Zeit, zu der durch das Schwächerwerden der Kernfusionen gewaltige Veränderungen im SOL-System stattfinden werden. Not only that the entire gravity field gets out of hand and therefore changes, but also large-scale climate changes will be part of the agenda. Nicht nur, dass das gesamte Schwerkraftfeld ausser Rand und Band gerät und sich also verändert, sondern auch Klimaveränderungen grossen Stils werden zur Tagesordnung gehören. This incites the scientists to perform at their best because they want to counteract the negative effects of the sun, which, contrary to erroneous scientific assumptions, appear thousands of years earlier than was previously assumed. Dies stachelt die Wissenschaftler zu Höchstleistungen an, denn sie wollen den negativen Sonneauswirkungen entgegenwirken, die im Gegensatz zu irrigen wissenschaftlichen Annahmen Jahrtausende früher in Erscheinung treten, als eben bis anhin angenommen wird. Only now is it really recognized that the sun is a dying star and thus the end of the SOL system has already been determined, even if the sun will continue to exist for around 10 billion years, but then already as a dead star, which then follows in Time is swallowed and destroyed by a black hole. Erst jetzt wird eigentlich richtig erkannt, dass die Sonne ein sterbendes Gestirn und damit der Untergang des SOL-Systems bereits bestimmt ist, auch wenn die Sonne noch rund 10 Milliarden Jahre weiterbestehen wird, jedoch dann bereits als toter Stern, der dann nach dieser Zeit durch ein Schwarzes Loch verschluckt und vernichtet wird. So the scientists begin to perform at their best - and find the wrong calculations on which the Pi number is based. Also beginnen die Wissenschaftler Höchstleistungen zu erbringen — und finden dabei die Fehlberechnungen, die der Pi-Zahl zugrundeliegen. By correcting and now correctly calculating the pi number, the scientists and the extremely sophisticated technology will be able to harness unimaginable energies for the earth, by enabling them to derive energy from black holes in the vast area of the Milky Way and to make it usable for the earth. Durch die Behebung und nunmehrige Richtigberechnung der Pi-Zahl werden die Wissenschaftler und die ungemein hochentwickelte Technik fähig, unvorstellbare Energien für die Erde nutzbar zu machen, und zwar dadurch, indem es ihnen möglich wird, von Schwarzen Löchern im weiten Gebiet der Milchstrasse Energien abzuleiten und für die Erde nutzbar zu machen. The translation is mine and may contain errors. Kind regards Bob |
   
Kenneth Member
Post Number: 1164 Registered: 04-2013
| Posted on Sunday, July 19, 2020 - 09:13 pm: |
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Thank you, Bob, I was not aware of this passage from Billy’s book, Aus den Tiefen des Weltenraums. Your statement: "It essentially projects that Earth scientists will not determine the correct value of pi until far in the future and under a different type of Earth threatening." Even though I am working with the Apophis Team Project Defense group, I have always had the perception that 99942 Apophis was going to strike Earth in 2029 or 2036, which I have likewise shared with Michael Horn. Nonetheless, this does not deter me from making every effort to inform folks and various organizations about the truthful facts pertaining to the true value of Pi and the “Red Meteor”, as it was originally designated. Best regards & stay safe Kenneth |
   
Tat_tvam_asi Member
Post Number: 1401 Registered: 04-2011
| Posted on Monday, July 20, 2020 - 05:56 am: |
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>>> Our Dying Sun /Part 1 <<< Yes, as of now the overwhelming majority of scientists and articles published would not know / tell us that our sun is a dying star. E.g. a Feb 2020 article in the “Discover” magazine “informs us” that “in roughly 5 billion years” our sun will have exhausted its fuel supply and will start growing into a massive red giant… Only the “Astronomy” magazine (Aug. 2019) wondered why the sunspot cycles behaved so “strangely” lately. “Could our theories about our star’s behaviour be flawed or need tweaking?” Because, like a clockwork, so were our sunspot cycles once. “But solar cycle 24, which began in 2008, and the predictions for cycle 25, which will commence in 2020, take the cake for anomalous behaviour… there are indications that the Sun is in a transitional phase of its magnetic dynamo activity…”*) But in the end, even this article tells its readers not to worry, concluding that these sunspot “minimum cycles” are very common …and that after them “ …the Sun recovered dramatically … what we have not yet been able to get right is the behaviour of magnetic fields over short time scales like the 11 year solar cycle” So, the time our scientists recognize that our sun is dying may still be 'a time in the future'. Actually - Billy gives us some clues when this will be: CR 251 326. Now comes the time when all space stations and satellites around Earth and around Mars and Venus will crash, because the state of the sun is, due to the [its] ever-weakening activity, changing in such a way that enormous changes in the gravity field of all planets and the sun itself occur. There are no space stations around Mars and Venus yet. But "Manned Mars (exploration) Missions" may signal that we are at the cusp of this time... ---------------------------------------------- *) Sunspot Cycle 24 began almost 1 year late, may be the smallest in 100 years and the 3rd in a trend of diminishing sunspot activity.
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Tat_tvam_asi Member
Post Number: 1402 Registered: 04-2011
| Posted on Monday, July 20, 2020 - 06:03 am: |
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>>> Our Dying Sun /Part 2 <<< To get the full view I may add some of the further CR 251 predictions of that "time" - just to document that our scientists' reluctance to accept the new value of Pi and the many scientific information in Billy’s CNs may have dire consequences: 330. But before that Earth human beings will put artificial suns into the Earth’s orbit but far outside the usual distance 331. But even with this people will not be very lucky, because one of the artificial suns will, due to a severe damage, glow up and burn large areas on Earth. 332. This also affects the atmosphere, which makes the oxygen scarce, for which worldwide combat operations will ensue. 333. Out of this catastrophe a second one will emerge, because the burned land and the oxygen shortages are quite naturally not without consequences as it all will harm the economy and the entire food industry resulting in a famine which the world has never seen [experienced] during all its thousands of years in times long past. 349. The functioning of the Sun becomes an increasing concern of the inhabitants of the Earth as it is noticeably weakening and is no longer able to generate enough energies to provide light and heat for Earth and Mars. 350. In this far away time it will become common place that artificial suns will, far away from Earth, orbit Earth and brighten it and heat it up. BTW Chinese scientists will soon (probably this year) put into orbit and begin operating an artificial sun which “is meant to replicate nuclear fusion, the same reaction that powers the sun. The idea: To tap into limitless clean energy.
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Tat_tvam_asi Member
Post Number: 1404 Registered: 04-2011
| Posted on Monday, July 20, 2020 - 06:39 am: |
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German Original to the previous articles 330. Erst noch werden die Erdenmenschen wieder künstliche Sonnen in die Erdumlaufbahn setzen, jedoch weit ausserhalb der üblichen Distanz. 331. Doch auch damit werden die Menschen nicht viel Glück haben, denn eine der Kunstsonnen wird durch einen schweren Schaden aufglühen und grosse Gebiete der Erde verbrennen. 332. Dadurch wird auch die Atmosphäre in gefährliche Mitleidenschaft gezogen, wodurch der Sauerstoff knapp wird, um den dann Kampfhandlungen in weltweiter Form die Folge sein werden. 333. Aus dieser Katastrophe bildet sich dann auch noch eine zweite heraus, denn die Landverbrennungen und der Sauerstoffmangel bleiben rein naturmässig nicht ohne Folgen, so aber schadet alles auch der Wirtschaft und der gesamten Nahrungsmittelindustrie, woraus eine Hungersnot entsteht, wie die Welt eine solche während all den verflossenen Zeiten über Tausende von Jahren hinweg noch niemals gesehen und niemals erlebt hat. 349. Die Funktion der Sonne bereitet den Erdenbewohnern immer mehr Sorgen, denn sie wird merklich immer schwächer und vermag nicht mehr genügend Energien zu erzeugen, um Licht und Wärme für die Erde und den Mars zu spenden. 350. Schon lange wird es daher zu dieser fernen kommenden Zeit zur Alltäglichkeit gehören, dass künstliche Sonnen in weitem Abstand um die Erde kreisen und diese erhellen und aufwärmen. |
   
Tat_tvam_asi Member
Post Number: 1405 Registered: 04-2011
| Posted on Monday, July 20, 2020 - 06:47 am: |
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Dear Moderators - Kindly replace the article "Our Dying Sun / Some Afterthoughts" with the one below. Thank you. >>> Our Dying Sun /Some Afterthoughts <<< If we see us in the overall evolution of our galaxy: Ours is a solar system that is, in view of its ability to “create life”, nearing its “last gasps”. But, given their present state of consciousness and their dependence on delusional belief systems, the humans living in this "dying solar system", would not be able to leave their planet in time i.e. before their sun "runs out" of sufficient life support. So, to prevent the humans of our (overpopulating) planet from perishing something had to be done. Mankind had to be brought on course, made aware of what is wrong, and what is to be done to effect the changes needed (discard delusive belief systems, become truth seekers and revert their gene-manipulation). That, too, may be a reason why the Plejaren and Billy taught us the Spirit Teaching. |
   
Cpl Member
Post Number: 1326 Registered: 08-2004
| Posted on Friday, August 21, 2020 - 05:45 am: |
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An article today from space[dot]com/asteroid-ciose-earth-flyby-orbit-change-2020-qg.html mentions how Earth's gravity changed the orbit of asteroid 2020QG, our Earth's most recent very close flyby. This example of trajectory disturbance may presage what will happen when Apophis flies by in 2029 and its trajectory is similarly changed by Earth's gravity casing it to impact the Earth in 2036. Chris Use to the best both heart and head and never lose either.
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Kenneth Member
Post Number: 1184 Registered: 04-2013
| Posted on Friday, August 21, 2020 - 02:09 pm: |
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Hi Chris, Yes, I also watched that news bulletin on Asteroid 2020 QG, and of course it reminded me of 99942 Apophis. NASA said that QG was the closest known, non-impacting asteroid ever recorded as it passed by Earth at a mere 1,830 miles (2,950 kilometers) away.
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Hugo Member
Post Number: 919 Registered: 04-2015
| Posted on Friday, August 21, 2020 - 03:36 pm: |
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Phi_spiral, Thanks for that translation! I was surprised to read that correctly calculating the pi number opens the door to extremely sophisticated technology and energies. Maybe it's best we didn't know the correct pi number just yet. We've already got enough things to use to destroy ourselves. |
   
Cpl Member
Post Number: 1328 Registered: 08-2004
| Posted on Saturday, August 22, 2020 - 03:20 am: |
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Hi Kenneth, We certainly are witnessing signs in the heavens of what is to come. Chris Use to the best both heart and head and never lose either.
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Ilovebilly Member
Post Number: 640 Registered: 04-2011
| Posted on Saturday, August 22, 2020 - 04:07 am: |
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The correct Phi number will be determined after apophis hits in 2036 using aphophis trajectory 1.mark its present location 2. after it hits deduct Phi So Kenneth whats Apophis current distance from earth? Salome ilovebilly Every Cloud Has A Silver Lining. Truly, I know that there is no resistance to my successes, also not in my thoughts and not in my imagination and also not in my feelings. 77 Being emotional is not logical but is temporary madness and you are either logical or mad not both, i am grateful for my emotions but need to control them.
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Kenneth Member
Post Number: 1185 Registered: 04-2013
| Posted on Saturday, August 22, 2020 - 07:36 am: |
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Hi Ilovebilly, Apophis hitting Earth in 2036 is one of several hypotheses, To my knowledge, no Predictive evidence yet, only Prophecies, Earth scientists need to act! Technically anything can happen between now and then. The distance of Asteroid 99942 Apophis from Earth is approximately 45,832,075 miles (73,759,575 kilometres) from Earth, equivalent to 0.493052 Astronomical Units.
Keep in mind that 99942 is orbiting our Sun between Earth and Venus which makes a complete revolution approximately every 9 months. So, about every 9 months 99942 Apophis intersects Earth's orbit, which equates to 11.4 orbits of the Demon Serpent before it arrives on Earths doorstep. Egyptian Mythology: Apophis is the demon serpent of darkness. Kind regards Kenneth |
   
Kenneth Member
Post Number: 1185 Registered: 04-2013
| Posted on Saturday, August 22, 2020 - 01:40 pm: |
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Well, I have overlooked something, if this orbit diagram of Apophis is accurate? When one goes to the website of “Asteroid 99942 Apophis Information, TheSkyLive” and to be more accurate, Apophis intersects Earth’s orbit TWICE in a complete orbit revolution every 0.8900 years or 10.63 months (324 days). Of course, this is using the incorrect Pi calculation of 3.141… instead of 3.144… Earth orbits the Sun at an average distance of 149.60 million km (92.96 million mi), and one complete orbit takes 365.256 days as we know (1 sidereal year), during which time Earth has traveled 940 million km (584 million mi). What is interesting, we know that Apophis makes one complete orbit every 324 days, but nowhere is found the complete orbit revolution distance of this rock? There are 103 months between September 13, 2020 and April 13, 2029 The circumference of a circle is equal to 2 x π x r. So, in one year, Earth travels about 584 million miles (940 million km). The diagram shows a very exaggerated shape of Earth's orbit; the actual orbit is virtually circular.
Salome Kenneth |
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