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Scott
Moderator
Post Number: 3231
Registered: 12-1999
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 08, 2020 - 10:24 pm: | 
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No, unfortunately usernames can't be altered or replaced with a different one... |
Norms
Member
Post Number: 31
Registered: 12-2019
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 08, 2020 - 10:25 pm: |
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@Norm,
Suggest rephrasing the following in CR758 for clarity:
"But whether or not by the time vaccination is administered with such an insufficiently researched and untested medium, it will be a preparation of effective positive efficacy is to be doubted, same as whether there will be no counterproductive reactions or effects at all. "
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"But by the time vaccination is administered with such an insufficiently researched and untested medium, whether or not it will be a preparation of effective positive efficacy is to be doubted, same as whether there will be no counterproductive reactions or effects at all. " |
Newinitiation
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Post Number: 2499
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 09, 2020 - 12:04 am: |
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Norm+s= plural
Norm= singular
Norms+Norm= several Norms therefore what we are dealing with here is at least a triumvirate of Norms.
So wheres the other Norm?
Matt lee |
Norm
Member
Post Number: 248
Registered: 12-2016
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 09, 2020 - 08:54 am: |
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NormS, I didn't suggest anything. It was changed by an Stefan an official FIGU translator. Not by me. See below.
"Here my version which tries to stick as close as possible to the original meaning and style, also trying to retain the sentence structure as much as possible. Recall that there had been a recent conversation of Billy with linguistic experts from the Plejaren, where they stressed the importance of respecting that when working with Billy’s texts." - Stefan |
Markv
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Post Number: 55
Registered: 08-2008
| | Posted on Friday, December 18, 2020 - 02:43 pm: |
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What I don't understand, is why Billy & Ptaah keep going on about masks while neglecting to mention anything about eye protection (goggles or glasses) anymore. Seem they're trying to "cover all bases" when it comes to PPE information.
Another odd thing is how, for years Billy has warned about events/machinations which are occurring/being put into motion regarding the "secret dark order", dispossession, etc. while now he's indicating that those who are concerned about such things are misguided & confused. Granted, they are voicing concern over the rushed vaccine(s).
Oh and I'd vouch for Chris Martenson's information (w/ Peak Prosperity) as well. They take a very logical approach w/ regard to the actual research data which is available. |
Markv
Member
Post Number: 56
Registered: 08-2008
| | Posted on Friday, December 18, 2020 - 06:42 pm: |
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Meh, thought I'd proofread enough. Admittedly, I was rushing a bit, but still. My meaning was more as follows:
Since it seems that they're trying to cover all of their bases with regard to PPE, I'd expect them to mention eye protection as well, seeing as the virus is transmitted through mucousal membranes after all - which includes the eyes. Focusing on a breath mask alone would primarily benefit others rather than one's self by reducing exhaled virions.
Anyways, I just find it interesting how it seems that even Billy & Ptaah aren't quite sure what to tell us at times. Of course, much has been mentioned in the CR's about refraining from giving certain information.
The fact is, though, that what's explained in the CR's is certainly contradictory at times - thus spurring us to think for ourselves (as of course the 3 line poem in the CR758 alluded to). |
Eddieamartin
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Post Number: 1316
Registered: 08-2010
| | Posted on Friday, December 18, 2020 - 07:25 pm: |
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Markv
I see it differently. Consider the fact that you and we all know about the fact that Ptaah already told us we can be infected through the eyes. This is common knowledge amongst us.
Since this and very much further points and details had already been explained by Ptaah, which requires no further repeating, there were points that he felt needed to be emphasized... specifically for those of us grateful for his insights and consideration.
The responsible ones have already taken notes, have witnessed the corroborations from our scientific community and we are currently confirming the second wave.
So if Ptaah feels the need to re-emphasize something, we should take particular note of such, since he is clearly aware that we have noted some of his fundamental points.
I also fail to see how Billy and Ptaah "aren't quite sure what to tell us". Again, Ptaah is emphasizing key points that are pertinent to this time of year.
Salome,
Eddie
In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says:
Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3)
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Kenneth
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Post Number: 1248
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Friday, December 18, 2020 - 08:45 pm: |
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Eddieamartin,
I wholeheartedly agree. One specific point is:
Ptaah:
... However, I am here because I am concerned about the health safety of all FIGU members, especially in the coming weeks, which traditionally include family reunions, reunions of friends and acquaintances, and festivities due to Christmas, New Year’s Eve and New Year’s Day. This fact, however, brings about a very precarious situation and much misfortune, which will result and bring suffering worldwide as a result of the unreasonableness of countless human beings from all walks of life as well as the failure of state leaders.
Kenneth |
Eddieamartin
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Post Number: 1317
Registered: 08-2010
| | Posted on Friday, December 18, 2020 - 10:56 pm: |
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Kenneth, point well made.
Salome,
Eddie
In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says:
Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3)
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Tat_tvam_asi
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Post Number: 1544
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Saturday, December 19, 2020 - 01:29 pm: |
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Will Sars-Cov-2 escape the immune system response triggered by vaccinations? <<<
How quickly is the corona virus able to change its genetic code in reaction to the vaccines’ immune response blocking its entry into human cells? This is one of the central questions which has been of particular interest to experts – esp since finding a new Sars-Cov-2 variant with seventeen gene mutations called Vui - 202012/01 which is spreading in southern England around Kent and London and which is “frighteningly transmissible” (70 % more contagious)
While it was found that this virus mutation will not affect the efficacy of current vaccines – the wider question is “for how long?”
Because every corona virus has in its genome a built-in RNA repair facility its mutation rate is slow - much slower than that of the flu virus. Sars-CoV-2 should therefore also be genetically more stable and change more slowly - and vaccines should thus have - according to our scientists - a longer-lasting effect.
But the faster and further the pathogen spreads worldwide, the more it will mutate and the vaccines’ immune responses will exert an additional evolutionary pressure on the virus to escape this immune response and mutate even faster. The crucial question is: Is the virus changing in such a way that the antibodies and immune cells (that are supposed to fight the pathogen) no longer have access?
To find out how the corona virus mutation works the British clinician Ravi Gupta from the University of Cambridge (preprint publication on "Medrxiv") researched severely ill Covid 19 patients that were treated with blood plasma from recovered corona patients but later died. His finding: In these patients the virus responded to the antibodies in the blood plasma with myriads of replicating viruses, forming new variants in a very short time, one of which, with two mutations in the spike protein, was able to escape the clutches of the antibodies in the blood plasma allowing the virus to continue its lethal spread in the human body.
We have to wait and see how the virus will respond to the many vaccinations worldwide, whether it is able to produce virus mutants that escape the “clutches of the antibodies in the blood plasma”.
We may have no firm predictions in this respect (how the virus will respond to the vaccinations) from Ptaah.
But we know that this virus will be around for a long time *) and that some of the vaccinations may do more harm than good.
Bill
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Our annual flu (and the swine flu and bird flu etc) are a mutants of the deadly ^) Spanish ^^) Flu virus – acc. to the Guardian: “The killer that still stalks us, a hundred years on…”
One wonders if the corona virus will be another plague that haunts mankind for centuries.
^)
Mortality rate in 1918-20: 10 -25 %
^^)
We know from Billy (and many reports on the net) that the first cases of this flu trace back to soldiers in Fort Riley / Kansas … Not quite sure about some reports on the net (e.g. milleniumreport) telling us that this Spanish Flu may have been a military vaccine experiment gone awry.. |
Newinitiation
Member
Post Number: 2503
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, December 19, 2020 - 03:24 pm: |
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Bill I think that to totally eliminate the Coronavirus pandemic each and everyone on earth must do the right thing and follow the recommendations suggested by the plejaren so that through stopping community transmission from lockdowns and self isolations the virus is totally isolated from the transmission cycle and cannot thus infect anyone and anything.
Due to our lack of knowledge and scientific progress at the moment in our evolution any attempt at creating vaccines that will eliminate and prevent this coronavirus from infecting will be met with one failure after another and time is not on our side.
Just to put it into its proper perspective we haven't been able to totally vaccinate ourselves from the common flu even after all these years so what makes the coronavirus any different especially when like the common flu it keeps mutating.
Matt lee |
Tat_tvam_asi
Member
Post Number: 1545
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Monday, December 21, 2020 - 06:56 am: |
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>>> “A New Vaccine Cannot Replace A New Thinking” <<<
Hi Matt,
You are right in pointing out our lack of knowledge/experience with pandemics. Ptaah and Billy pointed to the danger of using rushed COVID-19 vaccines. So it may pay to examine the novel technologies that the major vaccines use.
The traditional vaccines used till 2019 were made up of small or inactivated doses of the whole live disease-causing organism (or the proteins that it produces), which were injected into the blood stream to provoke the body’s immune system into mounting a response (creation of antibodies)
mRNA vaccines, in contrast, are synthetic versions of the mRNA that a virus uses to build its infectious proteins. It is based on the genetic code of the virus, and tricks the cell it enters into producing some of the vital virus parts (proteins) themselves. The so formed viral “look-alike” proteins remain as loose, solitary parts (= they do not combine to form a virus). But when the body’s immune system detects these “look-alike” viral proteins in the cell’s cytosol **) it will start to produce antibodies to combat them just as if it encountered the cell-invading proteins of a real virus.
And this new (mRNA) method which turns our body cells into vaccine producers themselves, is the method the Pharma giants BionTech/Pfizer and Moderna employed: It produces more standardized proteins and saves both, vaccine production-time and -costs. But it was never used to produce vaccines before 2020 and so there may be a risk of unknown side-effects **)
We know that Ptaah and Billy had great doubts about the side-effects and efficacy of the vaccines used worldwide. But they did not mention any vaccine by name and detail their long-term side-effects. So, as Billy said, the chances of receiving a successful vaccination may well be “like a game of roulette” … ***)
So, are we, as some hesitant elderly French suggested, medical “Guinea Pigs”?
To a degree, yes. But the many frightened people in our world, esp. in countries with high infection rates, they simply have no chance but to accept the vaccination they are offered. But you are definitely right, unless our world's people and their leaders follow the recommendations of the much more experienced Plejaren there will be more suffering to come.
Because there is no salvation in finding out that the “in vitro transcribed mRNA leads to an expression in vivo” ****) – the much more important discovery is why a greedy virus “grows so rapidly” in a disunited, complacent, “greed is good” - world of overpopulation.
Bill
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cytosol (cyto = cell - sol = solution)
=> the liquid (watery) part surrounding the cell nucleus inside the cell wall
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Up until 2020 mRNA drugs (not vaccines) were used to fight off metabolic, cardiovascular, renal diseases and other diseases. These drugs had very serious side effects. The mRNA vaccines - up to now - had no major side-effects.
The unanswered question, however, is, whether Ptaah’s warning of long-term side effects would apply to mRNA vaccines.
The mRNA vaccine is as well very fragile and unstable and must (to avoid degradation) be stored at extremely low temperatures (BionTech/Pfizer: minus 70 degrees / Moderna: minus 20 degrees) which may lead to complications in countries which need to store the vaccines for more than 5 days and do not have the proper storage facilities
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I think that insecurity and doubts about the safety of “rushing the vaccinations” remain in many countries worldwide. E.g. just now Brazil’s populist leader rejected the country’s (SinoVac) vaccine saying it “turns people into crocodiles”. And in May the Daily Mail reported that one Russian ultra-nationalist politician suggested to “speed up the race for a faster cure” by injecting inmates (that had committed serious crimes) with the Russian vaccine “Sputnik” (= “companion/satellite”) in “exchange for halving their prison sentences…”.
Other politicians may use a softer “more diplomatic” touch – saying their vaccine “is safe” – but knowing that it is “quick fix”, anyhow.
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“in vitro transcribed mRNA leads to expression in vivo”
in vitro (Lat. vitrum = glass) meaning: (mRNA) produced in a (glass) test tube
in vivo (Lat. vivere = to live) meaning: (mRNA used) inside a living organism
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Michael_horn
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Post Number: 1507
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Monday, December 21, 2020 - 10:01 am: |
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COVID -19 Toll 500 Million Unless All Recommendations Followed
Virus from secret Guangzhou lab, escaped for 1st time in 1976; mutated together with flu viruses, still unknown to earthly experts
https://theyflyblog.com/?p=11209 |
Kenneth
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Post Number: 1249
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Monday, December 21, 2020 - 01:41 pm: |
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Hi Bill & All,
Lou Dobbs news anchor that works with FOX news and CNN stated that the powers in control of the Corona Virus vaccine do not want the elderly or the front-line workers to be the first to receive the new mRNA vaccines but spread it evenly across young and middle age adults. As noted, the new mRNA vaccine is based on the genetic code of the virus and tricks the cell it enters into producing some of the vital virus parts (proteins) themselves.
What else can this mRNA trick the cells into doing? Do we dare say population control?
Kenneth |
Bianca
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Post Number: 8
Registered: 06-2020
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 22, 2020 - 01:45 am: |
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We are not suppose to post links here, but I can only encourage everyone to search for the Australin doctor called Thomas Borody. |
Tat_tvam_asi
Member
Post Number: 1546
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 29, 2020 - 11:07 pm: |
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>>> What we do not yet know about the COVID-19 vaccines <<<
From Billy and Ptaah w know that some of the vaccines on the market now do not work well – some may even do more harm than good. And to my knowledge none of the vaccines on the market now take the (e.g. racial) differences of the human immune system into regard (Ptaah pointed this out in one of the COVID-19 CRs).
We know that the currently used Pfizer/BionTech and Moderna (and the soon to be released CureVac) vaccine imitate the virus’ behaviour: the difference being that the injected messenger RNA is synthetic and that it does not produce the whole deadly virus but only a part of it :
That is to say, like an actual virus that has entered a human body it will give human cells instructions on how to produce a COVID-19 spike protein. But though this spike protein is on its own and harmless the human immune system will respond to it (creating antibodies) just as if it were the spike protein of a real corona virus.
We do know that with regard to the current (known) variants of the virus
- these vaccinations will, after 7 to 10 days, trigger the production of antibodies
- these antibodies will, in 90 – 95% of cases, prevent the onset of the deadly disease
- The artificially created S (=spike) protein that the mRNA vaccine produces will neither infect those that take the vaccine nor will the mRNA vaccine change the human DNA because the spike protein is deposited in the cell’s cytosol not the cell’s nucleus (where the human DNA resides)
- The vaccinations seem to have no unusual/major short-term side effects
But we do not yet know
- whether there are any – esp. long-term - side-effects of the vaccination
- whether there are already (but not yet detected) or will soon be virus mutations which circumvent the vaccinations.
- how long the vaccination will protect a person from catching the disease
- whether the vaccination works as well for young children
- whether a vaccinated person will or may still spread the disease:
- Some reports say the vaccines are only symptom-reducing – i.e. they may only prevent the vaccinated person from getting sick but not if the virus is spread by asymptomatic spreaders i.e. people that are infected but show no sign of transmission.
There are many ongoing studies. Until they provide more definite answers to these questions vaccinated people should still wear masks to protect themselves and others. |
Msmichelle
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Post Number: 753
Registered: 02-2010
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 30, 2020 - 07:13 am: |
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We should all wear masks regardless!! If you're reading the contact reports, you'll understand, time and time again, wear a mask, stay home, social distance and stop the speculations.
MsMichelle (sending peace and love to all)
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Norms
Member
Post Number: 37
Registered: 12-2019
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 30, 2020 - 08:37 am: |
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Evidence is surfacing that covid19 test kits shipped to major countries two years before covid19
Search for:
Ultimate Proof: Covid-19 Was Planned To Usher In The New World Order
September 29, 2020 by Edward Morgan
Also search for:
ATOMIC BOMBSHELL: Rothschilds patented Covid-19 biometric tests in 2015. And 2017.
by Silviu "Silview" Costinescu
It is appears that the prophecy for the epidemic was pointing to a deliberate operation.
Goblet of the Truth page LXIX first half of page:
"However, all the items named here only represent the start, because in secret there is a mighty organisation of the governing class and mightful ones as well as many of their obedient lackeys emerging from amongst your humanity, who are creating a secret order of darkness with their own evil laws and ordinances, who are bent on hatred for the poor and weak and against the economically imprisoned and all normal citizens. And it is their desire to seize ever more might, more money and entire mastery over the whole earth and your humanity for themselves, therefore it is spreading their evil supremacy over the world, supported by its obedient vassals of all kinds who are greedy for blood as well as profit. Even the powerful ones of the economy are feeling the might and obeying the evil laws of the dark order which is spreading its dangerous and fatal poison of hatred everywhere, into everything and against everyone who does not share the same opinion as the dark might. Therefore, you human beings of Earth are no longer active to any great extent, but go along in idleness with an empty expression in your eyes, knowing not what you should do and where you should go, because you have nothing else to do that brings you joy and a good reward. And you human beings of Earth, both young and old, are the ones who can no longer set down any roots in your life, you wander, demoralized and hopeless, bereft of work and home, with the result that you fight yourselves in all things and you hate your present existence, to the extent of finally bringing it to an end yourselves as has already been the case to an increasing extent since the twentieth century and will become ever more widespread in future. Therefore, with the third millennium, this time has already dawned in which these things have quickly found their beginning and will develop ever more rapidly the longer they persist. As a result, the number of diseases and plagues is increasing, as is the number of illnesses that severely impair drinking water and bodies of water because of poisons of various kinds, as well as the air, soil and foodstuffs which grow on trees and bushes as well as in fields, woods, gardens and greenhouses. And still your efforts to counteract all the disasters are in vain, as are your attempts to put a brake on this development, because it is becoming greater and greater and more catastrophic with every day, indeed with every hour and every minute, standing in relation to the rapid increase in overpopulation. Therefore, you human beings of Earth want to resurrect all that has been destroyed so far because of your guilt and irrational- ity as well as irresponsibility, just as you want to keep what has remained whole, whereby however all your efforts in this direction are in vain because you do not come to the right conclusion in rationality. And the right decision is solely and alone this, that the overpopulation be stopped through a worldwide regulation of births and in this wise your earthly humanity be reduced to an extent that is appropriate for the planet and for nature, in which case this extent has been defined in accordance with nature and the planet for the whole Earth at 529 million human beings." |
Norms
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Post Number: 38
Registered: 12-2019
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 30, 2020 - 08:46 am: |
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And you forgot to mention the virus is rapidly mutating adding to the question of whether a vaccine or a series of vaccines will have any effect at all and may even precipitate the prophecized 500 million deaths during the times of the pandemic.
Have already posted search terms to evidence that covid19 test kits were shipped to major countries two years before covid19 and covid19 biometric tests patented by Rothchilds in 2015 and 2017. |
Eddieamartin
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Post Number: 1325
Registered: 08-2010
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 30, 2020 - 09:55 am: |
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Pandemic can (will) be brought to an end.
See TheyFlyBlog info below.
Prophecies are meant to warn the people and empower the knowing ones (responsible ones) so that logical and effective action (law of causality) can effectively bring about the needed change.
I have come to trust, and finally understood the directive the Plejaren are held to, in that the Plejaren impulse our scientists and also express information through BEAM via FIGU that our scientists and people in general can benefit from.
Ptaah made it clear in the latest translated CR that with the right actions the pandemic can be brought under control and bring things back to normal.
Earlier this year (2020), at the onset of the pandemic, a team of material scientists and nanotechnology scientists were inspired to create a new state of the art N95 Antiviral Surgical Respirator mask that inactivates the Coronavirus and other particulates such as the cold, the flu, germs and other viruses.
At theyflyblog everyone can register and get this new N95 at an affordable price.
Salome,
Eddie
In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says:
Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3)
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Michael_horn
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Post Number: 1508
Registered: 07-2009
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 30, 2020 - 10:00 am: |
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Regarding the conspiratorial info, this response was posted on my blog by Melissa:
"The information in that article is false and misleading. Those items coded under 902780 (colorimetric carbon dioxide detectors) were renamed in 2020 to the COVID-19 diagnostic test. Everything in that database with the same code was also updated regardless of the year it came into existence. SARS existed long before the pandemic of 2020, so those medical products were coded under different names prior to this year.
This is why millions of people are spreading conspiracy theories about the Corona disease. The stupidity runs deep and is causing millions of needless deaths." |
Norms
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Post Number: 39
Registered: 12-2019
| | Posted on Saturday, January 02, 2021 - 11:08 am: |
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Dr. Pierre Kory M.D. Senate Hearing testimony on Ivermectin and I-MASK+ protocol is available as a pdf.
The health bodies (NIH, CDC) turn a deaf ear and look the other way when evidence of many many clinical studies of available inexpensive working treatments for SARS-COX-2 infection are placed in their hands.
90% plus deaths attributed to covid19 (SARS-COV-2) to-date and those still to come are needless. |
Tat_tvam_asi
Member
Post Number: 1551
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Sunday, January 03, 2021 - 12:42 am: |
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>>> “Storm Chaser” AZD7442 – Instant Immunity Against COVID-19 ? <<<
It may sound too good to be true:
2 injections (one after the other), and you are immediately protected against COVID-19.
This is AZD7442, an (AZ = Astra Zeneca / Oxford University) drug, not a vaccination.
Which means:
- no wait periods – the drug works immediately. In comparison: The BionTech/Pfizer vaccination needs 2 injections 21 days (most other vaccinations: 2 injections 28 days) apart and it will take 1 month before full strength protection agaisnt the virus is achieved.
- AZD7442 works – to a degree – as well on persons that are already infected with the virus:
For people who are already infected with the corona virus vaccination comes too late
- - But taking the drug AZD7442 would still cure them if the drug is taken up to 8 days after the COVID-19 infection
- AZD7442 would be ideally suited to protect people that have to live in a household with COVID-19 cases
- A separate AZD7442-study investigates as well whether the drug works for persons that cannot be vaccinated (e.g. because their immune system is, due to other sicknesses, compromised)
- AZD7442 is expected to work for 6-12 months which is longer than some vaccinations (e.g. Moderna: 3 months)
How AZD7442 works -
The drug uses a cocktail of long-acting, "monoclonal" (artificial antibodies, “specifically” produced (“cloned”) in a lab) COVID-19 antibodies found In the blood of convalescent COVID-19 patients *).
The inventors may have taken some inspiration from the human rabies immunoglobulin which is as well made from human blood that has high levels of antibodies against the rabies virus.
When available -
According the Guardian newspaper: If the current studies **) at the Vaccine Research Centre at the UCLH (University College London Hospitals) meet the high expectations, the drug could be approved as an emergency medicine in March/April...
A word of caution -
Given the high number of COVID-19 cases in England one can understand that the NHS and MHRA England is under immense pressure from the hospitals (they are overflowing with COVID-19 patients) to quickly approve the drug.
But how can one say that a drug may work up to 12 months when one allows only 3 months’ trials ?
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... which seems similar to the procedure that cured the American Pres. so quickly
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The Guardian / Dec 26, 2020:
Phase 3 trials are just starting “Up to date we have injected 10 participants …”
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