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Kenneth
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Post Number: 1257
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Sunday, January 17, 2021 - 04:53 am: | 
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Greetings Hush,
From my position, do not see scorn from the FIGU community. Appreciate your feedback. Understand that you said that you are done with this conversation. Nonetheless, regarding those within the FIGU community and others that read this site, a response is warranted.
Your statement on Post #4, “…it is highly unlikely NASA would ever have completed a single successful mission to Mars if they had used Pi=3.144. When working through the math, this point is clear." This is theoretical conjecture (the formation or expression of an opinion or theory without sufficient evidence for proof, an opinion or theory) IMO.
When NASA launches a satellite aimed into a particular position within our solar system, someone at NASA is always at the helm tweaking the satellites course. As stated before, NASA admitted that their calculation is always off about 1%.
You also stated, “…without so much as one single academic endorsement from the scientific community.” Just for fun, let’s say that Billy does say that Pi is 3.1446… You may finally accept the fact; this does not mean that the academic endorsements will follow. Look at the hundreds of corroborated scientific facts provided by Billy and the Plejaren that the science community would not previously accept. After the corroborated facts, then excuses follow to discredit Billy’s information. The true value of Pi is proving to be no different.
Advising folks to, “Leave this alone unless YOU can actually prove to yourself, PI=3.144.” The proof of physical measurement of the circumference of a 1-meter diameter disk/circle has been done several times, as previously stated, and always measures out to 3,144.6… AKA 3.1446…
 
Billy will not lead folks around by the nose, we must figure out things for ourselves. The correct Pi calculation is no different, IMO.
Kenneth |
Stefan_z2
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Post Number: 173
Registered: 12-2014
| | Posted on Sunday, January 17, 2021 - 06:56 am: |
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Hello Hush,
Why do you say that nobody is interested in how current Pi is calculated? All what is currently done are approximations. To my knowledge there is no single mathematical proof confirming the flawed value. Look for example at Archimedes’ recursive formula using a combination of harmonic and geometric means. The choice is arbitrary and so is the resulting value.
Greetings,
Stefan |
Kenneth
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Post Number: 1257
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Sunday, January 17, 2021 - 02:13 pm: |
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Hello again Hush,
In one of your statements you said, “…according to Harry anyway, has not only solved Pi=3.144, but was bold enough to write a letter to the president of the Unites States, …//…without so much as one single academic endorsement from the scientific community. The letter oozes with ego.”
You appear to be drawing conclusions with incomplete information. What you may not realize is that Harry Lear worked for the government as Special Security Detachment, Assistant Chief of Staff Intelligence in the Pentagon and had to carry a Top-Secret Crypto clearance. He is persistent and dedicated, I give you that, ego, not so much IMO. His and the team’s main goal is preventing 99942 Apophis from killing hundreds of thousands of people if it strikes Earth.
This would be the whole reason for the Plejaren and Billy bringing up the discussion of the Red Meteor, aka, 99942 Apophis. Waiting for scientists to correctly figure out when our Sun is dying, may be too late. We only have 8 years, 2 months and 14 days until Apophis arrives in 2029.
On the flip side as of Oct 28, 2020 on Space-dot-com: The solar system's fate when that day comes. ... Our Sun's death is about 4.5 billion years away, give or take… This calculation is approximately half the time calculated in 2019, which will continually be refined.
Thanks for the warning on endorsing Pi=3.144, nonetheless, pretty much everything that we understand is based on word-of-mouth.
Best regards
Kenneth |
Imaginosdesdinova
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Post Number: 38
Registered: 02-2010
| | Posted on Sunday, January 17, 2021 - 07:37 pm: |
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Hello all,
In a few days I will be uploading interview recorded in summer of 2019 with CF. Interview was start of an documentary project about Apophis asteroid. We talked a bit about Pi, HLs and Guidos calculations. Will update here where video is uploaded.
Salome |
Tat_tvam_asi
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Post Number: 1568
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Monday, January 18, 2021 - 08:47 am: |
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>>> "How far off is the discovery that our sun is dying really? <<<
To answer this question it may be worthwhile to google for a study on the (peer reviewed, open-access) journal “Nature Communications” which charted Mercury’s ephemeris (mapping the planet’s position over time) or some of the related articles in other media:
E.g.
INDIAN EXPRESS
CHANGES IN MERCURY’S ORBIT UNVEIL AGEING SUN: STUDY
"...For centuries, scientists have studied Mercury’s motion, paying particular attention to its perihelion, or the closest point to the Sun during its orbit... Although G is considered a fixed number, whether it is really constant is still a fundamental question in physics: “Mercury is the perfect test object for these experiments because it is so sensitive to the gravitational effect and activity of the Sun …” Antonio Genova (MIT)
Tech 2:
"USING (the gravitational effect on) MERCURY, SCIENTISTS DISCOVER THAT SUN IS AGEING AND LOSING ITS GRAVITATIONAL GRIP ON PLANETS THEREBY EXPANDING THEIR ORBITS"
“Observations long ago revealed that Mercury’s perihelion shifts over time, called precession. Although the gravitational tugs of other planets account for most of Mercury's precession, they do not account for all of it.
The second-largest contribution comes from the warping of space-time around the Sun because of the star's own gravity, which is covered by Einstein's theory of general relativity.”
It then mentions that the sun’s grip on its planets is waning - just as Billy mentions in his predictions:
CR 251
314. The time will come when huge changes will take place in the SOL system as a result of the weakening nuclear fusions.
315. Not only does the entire field of gravity spiral out of control and change but large-scale will as well be part of the agenda
316. This pushes the scientists to highest performances because they want to counteract the negative sun effects that, contrary to erroneous scientific assumptions, appear millennia earlier than is previously assumed.
317. Only now it is realized that the sun is a dying star and thus the demise [destruction] of the SOL system is already predetermined
As for the reason why Billy would not mention more definite dates for the events in his predictions / prophecies:
"CR 251:186: "However, it would not be advisable to give precise data because this would again give rise to things that could unfavorably change future events, as they might cause disturbances of consciousness, etc., in many people, because the knowledge of what is coming attempts would be made to change many things that cannot be changed in any way, because they are just predictions and not changeable prophecies."
My take:
Earth humans are only told a bare minimum of our world's important scientific discoveries. But an even greater shame is that the very scientists that ridicule Billy are the ones that use his insights for their research.
Bill |
Davidmg
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Post Number: 244
Registered: 03-2008
| | Posted on Monday, January 18, 2021 - 06:11 pm: |
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Back in 2016 I did post the calculation for obtaining PI in a simpler form
http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/13/14568.html
Davidmg
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Tat_tvam_asi
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Post Number: 1610
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Saturday, February 27, 2021 - 10:09 am: |
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Earth Scientists Noticed That Apophis is Speeding Up - But Think a Collision Is Unlikely"
The latest Figu Bulletin 111 mentions that Apophis is speeding up and comes closer to Earth than our scientists originally expected *).
Evidently even NASA has recalculated the danger scenario and found
- Apophis, if it were to hit Earth, would hit Earth with the power of 65,000 (!) Hiroshima Bombs
- It will fly past Earth on April 13, 2029 in a distance of 31,200 km (19,400 mi).
- Apophis return in 2036 is not even mentioned in the NASA report
- It will return in 2068 "but a collision is highly unlikely"
- If Apophis nevertheless were to become dangerous (in 2068), the scientists could
calculate this early enough and initiate countermeasures. As early as 2022, NASA wants to ram the asteroid satellite Dimorphos (180 m diameter) of the asteroid Didymos.
In 2024, another probe will check what result this had (by how far the DART ramming deviated Didymos from its trajectory)
- Due to new findings the asteroid may return before 2068: Scientists found that, after 1 year, due to the Yarkovski Effect **), the meteor changed its orbit by 170 m.
- So there is a possibility that the asteroid may, due to this effect, return earlier than 2068
*)
When looking for an English version of the article mentioned in the Figu Bulletin I came across not 1 but many reports, all dated Oct 27/28, 2020.
Google e.g. for -
Apophis 'God Of Chaos' Asteroid Is Speeding Up In Its Journey Towards Earth
If I recall it right, Kenneth already sent a letter to NASA (?)
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NASA:
The Yarkovsky Effect is named after the nineteenth-century Polish-Russian engineer who first proposed the idea that a small rocky space object would, over long periods of time, be noticeably nudged in its orbit by the slight push created when it absorbs sunlight and then re-emits that energy as heat.
So when sunlight heats up the day-side of an asteroid then, as the asteroid moves and turns, the heat is released by its night side. This heat energy release creates a little thrust and may change the direction of the asteroid.
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Kenneth
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Post Number: 1268
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Saturday, February 27, 2021 - 10:10 pm: |
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Hi Bill,
Yes, all scientists and engineers of the core team of the Apophis Team Project Defense (A-Team) has contacted NASA, one way or another.
Interesting that you touch on “The Yarkovsky Effect”, the (A-Team) has been working on the Yarkovsky Effect for several months now. NASA released this information in 1991.
“Measurement: The effect was first measured in 1991–2003 on the asteroid 6489 Golevka. The asteroid drifted 15 km (9.3 miles) from its predicted position over twelve years (the orbit was established with great precision by a series of radar observations in 1991, 1995 and 1999 from the Arecibo radio telescope.”
There appears to be a multitude of things in play. The Plejaren and Billy established that Guido Moosbrugger and Harry Lear acquired the correct Pi calculation of 3.144605511… But the Plejaren never said that the Pi computation was the only factor involved regarding the Red Meteor. Earthlings need to figure this out with their own effort.
As previously mentioned, there is the Yarkovsky Effect, ON EVERYTHING! Regarding these orbital eccentricities, leading either to or away from a rendezvous, if the #99942 exhibits a Yarkovsky effect, then so does the Earth, our Moon, Mars, Venus and many other objects. NASA has reported that the Earth is spinning faster lately.
For reference, Apophis is currently orbiting the Sun between Venus and Earth, intersecting both Earth's & Venus's orbit two times a year.
“Jan 9, 2021 — Earth's 28 fastest days ever recorded happened in 2020. On average, the planet rotated more quickly around its axis last year than it did in previous years. Scientists who measure the speed of Earth's rotation think 2021 may be even faster than 2020. If so, they may need to subtract a second from the year.”
There are also changes in the gravitational keyhole position. As explained by A-Team scientist Christer Svensson:
<svensson> Stability of L1 relative #99942 ETA; 9-year ellipse rotation cycle of the moon; It is known that the lunar (L1) orbit traces a rotating ellipse as it orbits around the Earth. The position of the keyhole must therefore vary accordingly with a nine-year cycle. The effects on the gravitational keyhole position and by extension L1.
The question is, have the astronomers bothered to do the math or did they use an average value?
The equation of the ellipse yields an eccentricity of 0.0549 and perigee and apogee distances of 362,600 km and 405,400 km respectively (a difference of 12%). Since nearer objects appear larger, the Moon's apparent size changes as it moves toward and away from an observer on Earth.
The orientation of the orbit is not fixed in space, but rotates over time. This orbital precession is also called apsidal precession and is the rotation of the Moon's orbit within the orbital plane, i.e. the axes of the ellipse change direction. The Moon's major axis – the longest diameter of the orbit, joining its nearest and farthest points, the perigee and apogee, respectively – makes one complete revolution every 8.85 Earth years, or 3,232.6054 days, as it rotates slowly in the same direction as the Moon itself (direct motion) - meaning precesses eastward by 360°. The Moon's apsidal precession is distinct from the nodal precession of its orbital plane and axial precession of moon itself.
In other words the momentaneous position of the earth moon lagrange point L1 must vary over a 8.85 earth year cycle which has to be estimated for 2029, April 13 and the precise moment because the distance between Earth and Moon can vary by as much as 1,000 km (621.4 miles) over a period of 6 hours. </svensson>
Lagrange definition:
Points are positions in space where the gravitational forces of a two body system like the Sun and the Earth produce enhanced regions of attraction and repulsion. ... The stable Lagrange points - labeled L4 and L5 - form the apex of two equilateral triangles that have the large masses at their vertices.
Salome
Kenneth |
Hush
Member
Post Number: 5
Registered: 12-2020
| | Posted on Saturday, March 06, 2021 - 12:00 pm: |
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Hello Kenneth,
You quote above, "The Plejaren and Billy established that Guido Moosbrugger and Harry Lear acquired the correct Pi calculation of 3.144605511…"
Could you please kindly share the Contact Report reference where Billy and/or the Plejaren actually "CONFIRM" Pi=3.144; can not seem to find this specifically?
Am only aware of CR #251, where the Plejaren/Billy neither confirm nor deny the value of Pi=3.144; from which maybe gathered the true value for Pi is "still" unknown. |
Kenneth
Member
Post Number: 1270
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Saturday, March 06, 2021 - 06:39 pm: |
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Greetings Hush,
Here you go...
As mentioned before, I have cut a 1-meter circle out of foam board and measured the circumference three different times, every time the measurement was 3.1446... This is the simplest way to prove to yourself the true value of Pi.
Original Post 857 by PatM; Wednesday, January 06, 2021 - 09:39 am:
Written by Christian Frehner, which can be found at:
https://creationaltruth.org/Portals/0/Documents/Periodicals/FIGUSignoftheTimes/2017/No077/ImportantInformationfortheCircleNumberPI-sec.pdf
Kenneth |
Kenneth
Member
Post Number: 1270
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Sunday, March 07, 2021 - 09:08 am: |
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Hello Hush,
You brought up an interesting point. In FIGU Sign of the Times No. 077, September 2017, it mentions the circular ratio Pi in Contact 251 being 3.1446... However, when the Contact Report 251 is examined, it appears that the information about the Pi confirmation has been removed. Does anyone know if there is an extended version of CR 251 that contains this information?
Regards
Kenneth |
Kenneth
Member
Post Number: 1270
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Sunday, March 07, 2021 - 01:50 pm: |
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All,
May have found something regarding Pi calculation in Contact Report 251.
Original date and time: “Two Hundred and Fifty-first Contact; Friday, 3rd February 1995, 00:01 hrs.”
In FIGU Sign of the Times No. 077, September 2017 it states that BEAM added 23 pages to CR 251 in February of 1995.
Could this be the missing segment or block that contains the circular ratio Pi that Hush is looking for?
Sincerely
Kenneth |
Hush
Member
Post Number: 6
Registered: 12-2020
| | Posted on Sunday, March 07, 2021 - 05:37 pm: |
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Hello Kenneth,
Appreciate your time, trouble sharing related information however this is not a Contact Report, as per request. Therefore may be concluded a specific Contact Report whereby Billy, in collaboration with the Plejaren, specifically endorse Pi=3.144, simply does not exist. |
Schantz
Member
Post Number: 226
Registered: 03-2007
| | Posted on Sunday, March 07, 2021 - 11:02 pm: |
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Hush,
http://measuringpisquaringphi.com/correcting-pi-problems/
Shantz, please try and stick to FIGU links only, Thanks Scott
Please read bullet point 4.
So please hush yourself.
Appreciate your time and you trouble sharing this information that doesn't fit your narrative.}
(Message edited by scott on March 08, 2021) |
Tat_tvam_asi
Member
Post Number: 1616
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Monday, March 08, 2021 - 05:49 pm: |
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>>> About Pi and the “certain chronological order” of CR 251 <<<
(released by Billy on his 58th birthday Feb 3, 1995)
“… If one wants to consider the things that are still going on up to the time when the first official contacts with extra-terrestrials take place, then one has to create a certain chronology of the coming history. But it might not be advisable to give exact dates, because this would again result in things that could change future events just as unfavourably, as many people could suffer disturbances of consciousness etc., because through the knowledge of the coming many things would be tried to change that cannot be changed in any way, because these are predictions and not changeable prophecies. For this reason I will therefore not name any data, although I know them, which is why I will simply list the most important events or occurrences etc. of the future in chronological order, starting with the year 1995...”
But anyone who thinks that the events would be strictly “after this follows that” would soon be disappointed. The way Billy keeps his readers guessing is this:
He reports the events in different sections and he sometimes flips back and forth in time.
E.g. he would discuss a snippet of events related to diseases and then lead over to other related events in the earlier or distant future.
Sample 1 (CR 251 sentences following our present lung disease pandemic:
“… The danger of the use of chemical weapons, which has been practised for a long time and which is constantly renewed, will increase despite other efforts, as will nuclear and biological weapons. The risk of nuclear reactor accidents is also on the increase, all around the world. For the next few years, France in particular should exercise all conceivable caution in this respect, for a prophecy warns against a GAU in Lyon, which can be prevented if those responsible take the right steps ….”
So, also there is a “certain chronological order” kept, we still do not know what happens after the pandemic that we have now. Because the next sentence is very general and has no time assigned to it. And Billy then flashes back - speaking about a possible radioactive GAU in Lyon’s nuclear power plant "which may happen in the next few years” (= after 1995).
Sample-2: The new Pi Value
The same happens with the new value of Pi:
“All this goes along with many innovations and discoveries in technology and science, because the year 1995 and the following years bring tremendous breakthroughs to the change of civilization. In the time to come, the factor of finally recognizing and correcting the wrong in the calculation of the Pi number will also contribute to this.”
This “in the time to come” (after 1995) could be read that the new value would be found some years or a decade or 2 after 1995. But the time is not specific at all.
But the time when our scientists apply the new value of Pi may be a time when our scientists are much more desperate to counteract the “last gasps of our dying sun”:
“There comes a time when, with the weakening of the Sun's nuclear fusions, enormous changes will take place in the SOL system. Not only will the entire gravitational field be out of control and change, but large scale climate change will also be the order of the day. This is spurring scientists on to peak performance, because they want to counteract the negative effects of the sun, which, in contrast to erroneous scientific assumptions, appear much earlier over many millennia than previously assumed. Only now it is recognized correctly that the sun is a dying star and thus the setting of the SOL system is already determined, So the scientists begin to perform at their best – and find the miscalculations underlying the pi number. By correcting and now correctly calculating the pi number, the scientists and the incredibly sophisticated technology will be able to harness unimaginable energies for Earth, by making it possible for them to derive energies from black holes in the wide area of the Milky Way and make them usable for Earth.”
From this I would conclude:
The new value of Pi is or will be discovered in a different time (“the time to come” (after 1995) to the time when our scientists, under the pressure of finding ways to counteract our dying sun, will apply it.
Overall:
So even though there are some CR 251 snippets that can be read in a time sequential order, they are broken up into different sections and even those time-sequential snippets are interrupted by very generalized statement or flashbacks and “flash-forwards” to other events. Plus, we are, apart from some exceptions (e.g. possible Lyon GAU), not told whether certain events are only prophecies or predictions.
Bill |
Tat_tvam_asi
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Post Number: 1617
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Monday, March 08, 2021 - 06:14 pm: |
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Post Script
So even though Billy tells of some very specific events (e.g. our lung diseases pandemic, the value of Pi etc.) we are still left guessing how they integrate in the overall time frame of all events.
He does so, to prevent his readers suffering from severe “disturbances of consciousness” – In a later interview he explained that he had done so in a few cases and found the people could not mentally take it when their time of hardship was about to begin.
German Original:
„Wenn man dabei die Dinge betrachten will, die sich noch abspielen bis zu dem Zeitpunkt, zu dem die ersten offiziellen Kontakte mit Ausserirdischen stattfinden, dann muss man eine gewisse Chronologie der kommenden Geschichte erstellen. Es dürfte dabei aber nicht ratsam sein, genaue Daten zu nennen, weil sich daraus wieder Dinge ergeben würden, welche die zukünftigen Geschehen ebenso ungünstig verändern könnten, wie auch viele Menschen Bewusstseinsstörungen usw. erleiden könnten, weil durch die Kenntnis des Kommenden versucht würde, vieles zu ändern, was in keiner Art und Weise geändert werden kann, weil es sich eben um Voraussagen handelt und nicht um änderbare Prophetien. Aus diesem Grunde werde ich also keine Daten nennen, obwohl mir diese bekannt sind, weshalb ich einfach in chronologischer Folge die wichtigsten Ereignisse resp. Geschehen und Vorkommnisse usw. der Zukunft aufführe, und zwar beginnend mit dem Jahr 1995,“
„Die schon seit langem praktizierte und immer wieder von neuem drohende Gefahr des Einsatzes chemischer Waffen wird sich trotz anderweitiger Bemühungen wieder steigern, wie dies auch der Fall ist hinsichtlich atomarer sowie biologischer Waffen. Auch die Gefahr von Kernreaktorunfällen steigt, und zwar rundum um die Welt. Für die nächsten Jahre sollte besonders Frankreich in dieser Beziehung alle erdenkliche Vorsicht walten lassen, denn eine Prophetie warnt vor einem GAU bei Lyon, der verhütet werden kann, wenn die Verantwortlichen die richtigen Schritte unternehmen, ..“
„Dies alles geht einher mit vielen Neuerungen und Entdeckungen in der Technik und in den Wissenschaften, denn das Jahr 1995 und die folgenden Jahre bringen ungeheuer viele Durchbrüche zur Veränderung der Zivilisation. Dazu wird in kommender Zeit auch der Faktor dessen beitragen, dass endlich das Falsche in der Berechnung der Pi-Zahl erkannt und behoben wird.“
„Es kommt die Zeit, zu der durch das Schwächerwerden der Kernfusionen der Sonne gewaltige Veränderungen im SOL-System stattfinden werden. Nicht nur, dass das gesamte Schwerkraftfeld ausser Rand und Band gerät und sich also verändert, sondern auch Klimaveränderungen grossen Stils werden zur Tagesordnung gehören. Dies stachelt die Wissenschaftler zu Höchstleistungen an, denn sie wollen den negativen Sonneauswirkungen entgegenwirken, die im Gegensatz zu irrigen wissenschaftlichen An-nahmen über viele Jahrtausende hinweg sehr viel früher in Erscheinung treten, als eben bis anhin angenommen wird. Erst jetzt wird eigentlich richtig erkannt, dass die Sonne ein sterbendes Gestirn und damit der Untergang des SOL-Systems bereits bestimmt ist, auch wenn die Sonne noch rund 4,1 Milliarden Jahre weiterbestehen wird, jedoch dann bereits als toter Stern, der dann nach dieser Zeit durch ein Schwarzes Loch verschluckt und vernichtet wird. Also beginnen die Wissenschaftler Höchstleistungen zu erbringen – und finden dabei die Fehlberechnungen, die der Pi-Zahl zugrundeliegen. Durch die Behebung und nunmehrige Richtigberechnung der Pi-Zahl werden die Wissenschaftler und die ungemein hochentwickelte Technik fähig, unvorstellbare Energien für die Erde nutzbar zu machen, und zwar dadurch, indem es ihnen möglich wird, von Schwarzen Löchern im weiten Gebiet der Milchstrasse Energien abzuleiten und für die Erde nutzbar zu machen.” |
Msmichelle
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Post Number: 795
Registered: 02-2010
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 09, 2021 - 06:24 am: |
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I have a question for anyone willing to answer, based on what you've read via the contact reports, without having to "read between the lines", will Apophis hit the Earth in 2036?
Keep in mind, the Ps will be gone in 2029? or will they?
Yes, or no, or I don't know (by the way is a good answer)
I say, yes
MsMichelle (sending peace and love to all)
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Hush
Member
Post Number: 7
Registered: 12-2020
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 09, 2021 - 08:21 am: |
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Hello all,
Does anyone know of a Contact Report/Block where Billy, in collaboration with the Plejaren, specifically endorse Pi=3.144? Honestly don't believe such a reference exists, but if anyone is aware please share. |
Votan
Member
Post Number: 969
Registered: 12-2011
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 09, 2021 - 09:13 am: |
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Hi Scott
I am wondering why so many people have left the site? It was very interesting before and no doubt we had some unusual comments but nevertheless interesting. Why Billy is not answering any comments also.
joe
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Votan
Member
Post Number: 970
Registered: 12-2011
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 09, 2021 - 09:18 am: |
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Kenneth, I remember reading a article where they actually endorse the correct PI. Using the measurement of the pyramid and the distance of earth in relation to the sun.
joe
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Scott
Moderator
Post Number: 3275
Registered: 12-1999
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 09, 2021 - 11:33 am: |
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Hi Joe,
From wha I can tell, many people have switched over to social media ie; Face Book etc..and I am sure in some instances people have moved on to other pursuits....Billy is no longer answering questions to the forum due to health reasons which was stated in the Announcement section back in 2016, Perhaps if you do have questions you can ask the group and maybe someone can help you.
Regards
Scott |
Hush
Member
Post Number: 8
Registered: 12-2020
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 09, 2021 - 12:33 pm: |
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Hello Joe,
You may be referring to Contact Report #260. In Contact Report #260 (FutureofMankind) Billy requests if Ptaah may comment on Guido's Pi=3.144# pyramid dimension computations to which Ptaah replies:
105. Ptaah: This calculation is very amazing, but the time is still much too early in order to be allowed to make more detailed and more exact statements about that.
Billy: We’ve already feared this answer, but we just wanted to try.
106. Ptaah: Of course, I understand, but I really must remain with my statement.
....Ptaah makes it clear mankind is not ready to learn the correct value for Pi and is unwilling to make any further comment regarding the correct value of Pi. When Contact Report #251 is taken into consideration, we learn earth's future scientists will work frantically and brilliantly together to solve the problem with our dying sun, and through this process, rectify the error in Pi.
It would seem then the Plejaren 'actually' NEVER share the correct value of Pi with mankind; we (mankind) are charged with the task of figuring the correct value of Pi on our own. Finally, as previously stated, there isn't a single contact report/block reference of either Billy and/or the Plejaren confirming Pi=3.144. If there is such a reference, please share. |
Kenneth
Member
Post Number: 1271
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 09, 2021 - 01:41 pm: |
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Hi Votan,
Then you say “they”, not sure who you are referring to? Guido refers to the correct Pi of 3.1446… in his book, “And still they fly!”. Harry Lear refers to the correct Pi on his web site. Billy and Ptaah talk about the correct value of Pi in the FIGU Sign of the Times No. 077.
Ptaah told Billy that there is no longer any reason for further nondisclosure. Billy then said that he added 23 pages of prophecies and predictions into the 251st Contact Report, referring to the need for the correction of the Pi number. Have not found this reference in the English translated version, it may be in the German section? Nonetheless, the word is already out regarding the correct Pi of 3.1446…
It appears that there are more factors involved than just the correct Pi value. As the Plejaren have said, in retrospect, it is up to Earth humans to deflect the Red meteor aka 99942 Apophis. The Plejaren have provided all the tools and suggestions needed, all that Earth scientists must do is listen and take action! If this is not done, in my opinion, Apophis will most surely strike Earth in 2029 or when it returns from orbit around the Sun in 2036.
Kenneth |
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