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    Phi_spiral Member Post Number: 110 Registered: 04-2020 |
FIGU has just released a special FIGU – Forum report, No.11, March, 2021 on the subject of overpopulation that is 22 pages long with some of the articles translated to English. Here is the link below: https://www.figu.org/ch/files/downloads/figu_forum/figu_forum_ueber_11.pdf It contains by its' own description: News • Effects • Calculations • Fact Findings • Conversations • Statistics • Predictions • Truths, i.e.: World Population as of Dec 31 2020, 24.00 h according to the exact Plejaren registration: 9,163,081,008 Ernst Meierhofer, a childhood friend of Billy, and currently living in the US, has written a short editorial, titled: "To All People Who Are Still Gifted With Understanding and Reason." In the article he testifies how "Edi" (as Billy was called as a child - short for Eduard), with the help of Pastor Zimmermann and his two teachers Graf and Lehmann in the years from 1940 and 1950 to 1960 , described in detail with several prophecies and predictions, what leads to ever more and greater catastrophes today, including the present pandemic. They were sent around the world to all important newspapers, magazines, radio stations, to all governments of all countries in the world as well as to many organizations and religious leaders, etc. At that time he was still a boy under the care of the very old Plejaren, Sfath. So as soon as Billy was physically capable, even as a young boy, he began to sound the warnings. Regards Bob | ||
Eddieamartin Member Post Number: 1334 Registered: 08-2010 |
Hello Msmichelle, Although I understand your points about expressing in our own words... Certainly this is important in a discussion or conversation where our own opinions, assumptions and thoughts are to be expressed. But in consideration of Bill's posts, let me share this. Because this forum is also a learning-tool, a source for the self-education and as it pertains to the sense of the conscious-based, consciousness-based encouragement of the self-education... the following points are necessary to contemplate. The following can be found in the recently translated 756 Contact. (Yanarara to Billy) "Amazing how you always know how to explain something that it can be understood." (Zafenatpaneach to Billy) "When I was told about the phenomenon in 1980, I had doubts about it, but I had no possibility to check it, so I did not let it rest after the story and I installed a monitoring system high above the area, which then monitored the whole thing for 4 years and made registrations, the recordings of which confirmed all statements and descriptions." (Billy to Zafenatpaneach) "You see, my friend, there is nothing like a verification, which is why everything must always be questioned and clarified to find out what is true or untrue, what is wrong or right. But with it the whole is probably clear." I enjoy and appreciate that Bill takes the time to include both the quotes and the source, in order that I (we) can research and clarify for ourselves, in order to exercise the consciousness. Further in the 756 Contact, Billy explains the evolution-based importance of the following: (in my own words) To take a pause and a moment to reflect and truly recognize the actual thinking-form or pattern of the individual at the moment of their expression, articulation and/or explanations. Not doing this, "the tongue goes faster than the consciousness" (Billy). Bill, to me, writes more like a scholar, rather than a conversationist. Which I appreciate, and regret that I am not able to participate because of time constraints in my life. Salome. Salome, Eddie In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says: Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3) | ||
Msmichelle Member Post Number: 788 Registered: 02-2010 |
Eddie, BEAM writes like a scholar too, yet, his words are misunderstood as well and leads to more confusion by those not willing to research, contemplate, etc. We have to use more creative ways to reach people, than with words, some creative action or approach is necessary. He has been encouraged to "write a book" or "create a website" yet has he? Yes, it's great to have "scholars" on this forum, but who does it benefit in the long run? Outside the forum, we have "scholars" too, yet, we are still overpopulated and this planet is going into the abyss. MsMichelle (sending peace and love to all) | ||
Msmichelle Member Post Number: 789 Registered: 02-2010 |
Eddie, by the way, you are a perfect example of producing creative ways to help humanity....dude, you help or created "masks". Right? MsMichelle (sending peace and love to all) | ||
Eddieamartin Member Post Number: 1335 Registered: 08-2010 |
MsMichelle, Regarding Beam: To me, and I did this initially, I think his students often misunderstand the function and purpose of a truthly prophet. To me, BEAM teaches what the Responsible Ones need to learn and understand ...in order to then be effective amongst our fellow terrestrials. Antagonists of BEAM always get offended and feel themselves attacked by BEAM's words, which are not intended for them as an instructive-wise medium. This is due to their limited consciousness, rationality and intelligence development. I learn from BEAM and then creatively apply it with my fellow human beings in a consciousness based wise... meaning I tailor the lessons, insights and wisdom from BEAM into a form that my friends can understand, digest and fathom. I disagree that the planet is going into the abyss. Let me explain why: The Creation rules all its creations through brazen regulating laws, recommendations, forces, energies, powers and abilities, etc. That which is aligned with the creational brazen regulation cannot be overcome, overpowered nor circumnavigated... no matter how hard a human being tries. Prophecies and warnings are for the benefit and use of the "Responsible Ones" ...these individuals wield mighty powers, forces and influences that can (will) change the world. What these individuals wield is unstoppable, steadfast and unyielding in might, power and wisdom. Prophecies were never intended to be doom & gloom, but rather for the effective actions, through their insights, in order to bring about the needed change. Interestingly, in 756 Contact, the antiviral N95 mask my company makes available, the materials it is made of are described by BEAM as he learned from Sfath in his time travels regarding the current pandemic. Remember: It is the scholar that earns more in evolution, and provides the same to others, in more magnitude than those who simply hold conversation. Take a moment to reflect on the statements in my post which I quoted from 756 Contact. Here it is again: (Yanarara to Billy) "Amazing how you always know how to explain something that it can be understood." (Zafenatpaneach to Billy) "When I was told about the phenomenon in 1980, I had doubts about it, but I had no possibility to check it, so I did not let it rest after the story and I installed a monitoring system high above the area, which then monitored the whole thing for 4 years and made registrations, the recordings of which confirmed all statements and descriptions." (Billy to Zafenatpaneach) "You see, my friend, there is nothing like a verification, which is why everything must always be questioned and clarified to find out what is true or untrue, what is wrong or right. But with it the whole is probably clear." Salome, Eddie In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says: Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3) | ||
Tat_tvam_asi Member Post Number: 1603 Registered: 04-2011 |
Thank you, Eddy. Salome, Bill | ||
Hugo Member Post Number: 991 Registered: 04-2015 |
I also have no problem with Tat_tvam_asi posts, in fact I enjoy them. I often find useful information in them that I somehow missed or forgotten. Please continue posting them Tat_tvam_asi because there is no harm in posting them. They help me remember! | ||
Schantz Member Post Number: 219 Registered: 03-2007 |
Eddie, Your fellow human beings and friends are fortunate to have you talk down to them since they can't comprehend for themselves the knowledge and wisdom you have, as you have stated below. "I learn from BEAM and then creatively apply it with my fellow human beings in a consciousness based wise... meaning I tailor the lessons, insights and wisdom from BEAM into a form that my friends can understand, digest and fathom." A truly pathetic statement! | ||
Schantz Member Post Number: 220 Registered: 03-2007 |
Breaking news from eddieamartin! If your fellow human beings and friends don't understand Billy's writings, teachings, and lessons then please tailor them to your understanding so we can continue with more disinformation and start a new religion. Mrmichelle should love this rambling of nonsense. Like birds of a feather, frauds flock together. | ||
Eddieamartin Member Post Number: 1336 Registered: 08-2010 |
Schantz Regrettably, my statement was clearly and completely misunderstood by you. Allow me to recommend the study of the Goblet Of The Truth. Salome, Eddie In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says: Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3) | ||
Schantz Member Post Number: 221 Registered: 03-2007 |
Eddie, I apologize for my statements below. I regret posting these two sentences. Mrmischelle should love this rambling of nonsense. Like birds of a feather, frauds flock together. | ||
Schantz Member Post Number: 222 Registered: 03-2007 |
Eddie, If I did misunderstand your statement then I would like to apologize for both my full posts. Even if I did understand, the manner in the way I responded was inappropriate. Sincerest apologies. | ||
Reen71b Member Post Number: 11 Registered: 09-2020 |
Criticism given should be neutral positive. A condescending tone is unnecessary. We aren't here to teach other people to "toughen up". The rest of society does a bang up job with that. It is also not beneficial to the advice giver to express their self in such a way. The person giving the advice is also affected on how they conduct themselves with others. Maureen | ||
Tat_tvam_asi Member Post Number: 1605 Registered: 04-2011 |
Thank you, Hugo. Salome, Bill | ||
Msmichelle Member Post Number: 790 Registered: 02-2010 |
First of all, let's all calm down and enjoy these moments, because after reading the last few contact reports, we are in deep sh*t literally, now take the crisis of overpopulation as you want. Criticism is a fact of life and whether it's a condescending tone is your take. Offline, no one is accepting overpopulation as the cause of our climate crisis and what recently happened in Texas, can you imagine, sunny one day and the next day, freezing to death! I know eventually, many people will be found dead in their homes due to this event when the ice settles. In my field, more and more are killing themselves or threatening to harm others. Build yourself up to having this directly effect you or wait for others to come and save you. We all know, much more is to come! I just cannot comprehend why the majority of the population is not getting this! On some occasions, my young relatives agree the planet is overpopulated, but stop when I suggest birth control or other behavioral changes. So however you can take it, take it or not. If I or anyone on this forum touches your "nerves" or "feelings" Great! BTW, I hope you all enjoyed my rambling!  MsMichelle (sending peace and love to all) | ||
Msmichelle Member Post Number: 791 Registered: 02-2010 |
Let me also conclude my rambling with this....do we need more scholars or electricians, engineers, medical personnel, first responders, infrastructural specialist? agricultural specialist? Ask the people in Texas MsMichelle (sending peace and love to all) | ||
Learnmore12 Member Post Number: 124 Registered: 05-2014 |
The crisis of overpopulation is only getting worse day by day. I see this everyday. Women are giving birth to multiple babies instead of just one now! It is twins and triplets more and more now! Talking about overpopulation is a taboo! I guess our world will have to learn things the hard way!! | ||
Eddieamartin Member Post Number: 1337 Registered: 08-2010 |
Great question Msmichelle Texas has all those technicians, look what it got them. Texas clearly needs spiritual teaching scholars who can advise the people and the political leaders. You experienced what I was pointing out in my "rambling" earlier posts. From BEAM we learn and understand the over population problem and that the remedy is the "BIRTH STOP" ...this statement is shocking and unacceptable to terrestrials. I have had far greater success by applying BEAM's lessons into a form that is acceptable. Goblet Of The Truth says to use the "Leading Thought", to teach via "Allegory/Analogy" and to align with the creational regulation; so therefore the Law Of Causality (cause & effect). Regurgitating BEAM's words, such as "Birth Stop" is alarming and unacceptable and you will run into a brick wall and get no where. So what would be the "effective" approach with terrestrials? That's a question we all must ask ourselves. Salome, Eddie In the *Goblet of the Truth* there it says: Live always in love and in peace, foster freedom and harmony on Earth and never forget the real truth. Foster your life always in goodness of heart and live in the true BEING of the Creation. The *Goblet of the Truth* will wake you, not to the bane - but to the boon. (pg.3) | ||
Redbeard Member Post Number: 326 Registered: 04-2006 |
I agree Maureen! | ||
Msmichelle Member Post Number: 792 Registered: 02-2010 |
Keep in mind, Bill and Eddie are my brothers. They can handle their own!! As a matter of fact, I actually enjoy to agree and disagree. It builds the consciousness  MsMichelle (sending peace and love to all) | ||
Phi_spiral Member Post Number: 117 Registered: 04-2020 |
Eddie: "I have had far greater success by applying BEAM's lessons into a form that is acceptable. <snip> I have had far greater success by applying BEAM's lessons into a form that is acceptable. <snip> Regurgitating BEAM's words, such as "Birth Stop" is alarming and unacceptable and you will run into a brick wall and get no where. So what would be the "effective" approach with terrestrials?) Billy provides additional information of the "effective" approach with terrestrials when sharing creational truth in his book, "The Way to Live." Essentially you are correct, Eddie - it is not necessary to speak "Gobletese". One must wisely discern the consciousness level of the person you are speaking to and choose the appropriate words. Please see my post in Books and Booklets Area >> The Way to Live. Regards Bob | ||
Schantz Member Post Number: 225 Registered: 03-2007 |
If Eddie is essentially correct, then I was essentially incorrect. The one and only truly pathetic statement was made by me, which I still feel terrible about. I thought about asking Scott to delete the posts, but decided to keep them as a shameful reminder to myself. And just so I remain on topic, the earth is overpopulated! | ||
Jacob Member Post Number: 27 Registered: 07-2019 |
We should be realistic about overpopulation, a worldwide birth stop in a seven year cycle will not happen anytime soon. What is done now, is sowing the seeds of reason which will bloom much later on. Also we have to understand that all of us (people who are studying the spiritual teaching in whatever form), are in the earliest phases of understanding and implementation of the spiritual teaching in daily life. We are all fighting our ‘inner demons’, opening up our eyes very slowly. At this current time and age, we live in the consciousness-related dark ages, only an extremely small group of people is slowly developing itself into the so-called spiritual teaching people, from which, much later on will form the consciousness-related / spiritual leadership. None of us is capable of teaching or consulting anyone else, only oneself. At this time, we are mainly students. For the time until about the year 2751 (contact 235), we are more or less on our own. Around that time, we will be further introduced into the spiritual teaching. I am not saying we should not fight overpopulation, quite the contrary, we must fight it with every fiber in our bodies, but don’t expect major success this life time. “The unexamined life is not worth living.” - Socrates “Our life is what our thoughts make it.” - Marcus Aurelius Salome, Jacob |
