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Bronzedesk
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Post Number: 253
Registered: 01-2011
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 12, 2020 - 09:07 am: | 
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Dearest Bill
I was referring to the first build:
Quote: 2. Not quite sure if you refer to the third time the pyramids were built (around 12,000 BCE) rather than the time they were first built (around 71,344 BCE) which coincided with the time of Malona’s destruction.
And yes I am well familiar with Cayce's referrals to the Great Wars on earth as well. I appreciate that heads up.
I feel that along with BEAM and others their work should not go unnoticed nor forgotten but taken to heart.
They were and still are spot on!
All please stay safe in these perilous times now and those yet to come.
bronzedesk
Mat
ps: Something like ('Those who do not learn history are doomed to repeat it.' The quote is most likely due to writer and philosopher George Santayana, and in its original form it read, "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.")
And the end of all our exploring, will be to arrive where we started, and know the place for the first time.
~ T. S. Eliot
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Newinitiation
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Post Number: 2389
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, August 13, 2020 - 11:32 pm: |
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Hi Bill I think if we let Apophis deliberately hit earth I am certain that more fossil fuel can be produced from the impact.
I can't get this idea out of my head that as a result of the Muan asteroid impact over Atlantis and other places all over the earth vast quantities of oil was produced as a byproduct of immense heat and friction with kilometers deep lava mixing with water and air.
You have to wonder why the middle east has the most oil reserves and why immense undersea reservoirs of oil and gas is trapped within the earth's mantle concentrated mostly around where the greater Atlantis used to be in the Atlantic.
I think puncturing earth's crust kilometers deep with an asteroid of gigantic proportion does this so if we run out of oil this may be an insane way of producing oil artificially.
Matt lee |
Tat_tvam_asi
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Post Number: 1508
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 13, 2020 - 06:44 am: |
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When were humans gene-manipulated in the Sirius system?
We know that the yellow races escaped from Sirius to a planet Kudra on the other side of the Milky Way. And that they were there later discovered by a Lyran expedition fleet:
"Planet KUDRA was discovered by an expedition fleet from Lasan when it left the Lyra systems approximately 16 million years ago to conduct its research and search for human life on the other side of the Milky Way..."
From this we can conclude that the gene-manipulation ("Original Sin") must have taken place at least 16 million years ago (it may be more).
Is there a more specific "gene-manipulation date" mentioned (in other CRs or books)?
Bill |
Ilovebilly
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Post Number: 657
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 13, 2020 - 08:46 pm: |
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Gday Bill
i reckon it was soon before the migration to earth frpm Sirius, (less than a thousand years or so) for rebellion to happen..
when the yellow folks arrived they mixed with the others, not on a large scale but enough.
Its interesting Ghengis Khan DNA is in a large % of the yellow folks.. he had the aggression gene i would assume eh eh..
So i think in the past many leaders on earth (whom where mostly leaders by military conquest, had lots of children to lots of women) helping the spreading of the genes quickly..
Salome
ilovebilly
Every Cloud Has A Silver Lining. Truly, I know that there is no resistance to my successes, also not in my thoughts and not in my imagination and also not in my feelings. 77 Being emotional is not logical but is temporary madness and you are either logical or mad not both, i am grateful for my emotions but need to control them.
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Kenneth
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Post Number: 1228
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Saturday, October 31, 2020 - 06:37 am: |
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Recently watched a documentary titled, Secrets of the Saqqara Tomb on Netflix:
Oct 15, 2020 Documentary, 1h 54m:
In one section of the video, after unearthing a tomb that had been untouched for 4,400 years, ... A statue was found with the inscription, “pray to God Ptah for health and security” ...
File photo
From Bill’s (Tat_tvam_asi) post 1034 from the Plejaren Contact Reports Block 12 / Page 347
(My translation may contain errors)
Ptaah:
46. My ancestor, whose name is written Ptah, and his wife Basth came from my ancestry line and were for some time on earth in the South American resp. Mesoamerican area, but for both no records were kept.
47. Nonetheless, they were two important personalities, for they created contacts for the natives with ancient Egyptian pharaohs.
48. Because of that there was some trade between the Mesoamerican and South American peoples and the Egyptians, through which all sorts of goods, including specialized plant products, were exchanged. 49. The Egyptian pharaohs, in particular, wanted special herbal products from South America which essentially were nothing else but [nothing other than] drugs.
50. Ptah also arranged connections between the ancient Egyptians and countries in the East, up to present-day China.
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This would be a corroboration or provide validation for Billy’s Contact Report with Ptaah regarding former Ptah in Egypt.
Salome
Kenneth |
Newinitiation
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Post Number: 2439
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, October 31, 2020 - 12:49 pm: |
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This would be a corroboration or provide validation for Billy’s Contact Report with Ptaah regarding former Ptah in Egypt.
Good find Kenneth
Have you ever come across in the CR about how many Ptaahs/Ptahs there were since the ancient times?
Matt lee |
Phi_spiral
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Post Number: 90
Registered: 04-2020
| | Posted on Saturday, October 31, 2020 - 06:18 pm: |
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Something also interesting about Ptah.
The ancient Greeks shrank that name, and used it to refer to the entire country, eventually giving us the modern English derivative, which leaves the god’s name to be recognizable in the last two letters of Egypt.
Regards
Bob |
Hugo
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Post Number: 949
Registered: 04-2015
| | Posted on Saturday, October 31, 2020 - 08:10 pm: |
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Yep, good find Kenneth! |
Jokubas_stalmokas
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Post Number: 102
Registered: 01-2011
| | Posted on Sunday, November 01, 2020 - 03:40 am: |
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Have you ever heard of Dorothy Eady aka Omm Seti? 🤨 Very interesting Egyptologist. |
Kenneth
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Post Number: 1229
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Sunday, November 01, 2020 - 04:58 pm: |
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Bob,
My understanding are along the same lines.
"The name Egypt means Temple Of The Soul Of Ptah and is of Greek origin. ... Ptah is the creative god associated with Memphis, the ancient city of Egypt."
Kenneth |
Kenneth
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Post Number: 1230
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Sunday, November 01, 2020 - 06:15 pm: |
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In retrospect, the Plejaren use the word god as a title referring advanced knowledge and wisdom etc.
In reassessment so to say, if the Plejaren (Ptah) told the ancient Egyptians that he was a director; would most of the world be praying to Directors today? It is interesting how human civilizations develop.
Long story short; some of you may remember the movie shot in Africa where a bush pilot dropped a Coke bottle out of his aircraft while flying over a remote part of the country.
The locals saw the plane fly overhead and a whistling bottle falling to the ground, which did not break. Years late an expedition found this African tribe worshiping the Coke bottle which had been placed on an altar.
The film “The Gods Must Be Crazy” is a documentary, IMO, do not think that this was based on a true event.
Nonetheless, not a whole lot different from today's religions which started in ancient times and continue to be reinvented to this day.
Salome
Kenneth |
Newinitiation
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Post Number: 2442
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Monday, November 02, 2020 - 03:35 am: |
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My uncle said something to the effect that if you wanted to get bloody rich just start your own religion.
As Jmmanuel foresaw over 2000 years ago our current world is inundated with charlatans like pastor Benny Hinn, reverend Moon, David yonggi cho, Creflo dollar, Kenneth Copeland, Jesse Duplantis, Leroy Thomas and many many more.
Matt lee |
Tat_tvam_asi
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Post Number: 1597
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Sunday, February 21, 2021 - 04:22 am: |
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41,000 Years Ago: The Effects of the Laschamps Excursion
Australian scientists*) further analysed what is known as the Laschamps Excursion – a significant change in the earth’s magnetic field) some 41,000 (+/- 2000) years ago (for 500 years the North and South Poles were reversed . The scientists carbon dated and analysed the rings of a NZ Kauri trees which was alive at the time (and preserved in a bog). They came to the conclusion that this event significantly changed the Earth's magnetic field, the Earth's atmosphere and climate (e.g. freezing large parts of North America) and that it may have led even the extinction of many animal species.
They explained the geomagnetic event with the low magnetic activity of the Sun at that time -
and this coincided with the Earth's "cosmic shield" being down as well:
" Evidence from ice cores suggests that, around this same time, the Sun was experiencing several “grand minima”—episodes of low magnetic activity..."
"... the (Earth's) magnetic field ebbed and surged..."
The atmosphere was so much ionized that it "created aurorae in the subtropics..."
One lead authors commenting on “What happens when the atmosphere is so much ionized?" - “God only knows.”
What the scientist did not know ...
was what Semjase's told us in CR09: In 38,023 an earth shattering war destroyed our planet which left only a few thousand people alive … (War of Pelegon’s Races)
- Details see CR 9:121-127
https://www.futureofmankind.info/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_009#Contact_Report_9_Translation
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Google for "Science Magazine: Ancient kauri trees capture last collapse of Earth’s magnetic field"
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Tat_tvam_asi
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Post Number: 1598
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Sunday, February 21, 2021 - 09:35 am: |
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... To complete the picture
As for what may have caused the pole shift some 42,000 years ago we may take the "causes" in our present time as a reference:
According to the Plejaren the more than 2000 nuclear tests during the past 80 years caused
- a strange wobble in Earth’s movement *)
- an unusual pole movement, (CR 680:158) **)
- the magnetic poles are shifting which also contributes to climate change (CR680:158) **)
*)https://www.futureofmankind.info/Billy_Meier/Plejaren_Federation
**)
www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_680
From this we may conclude
1) That it was a terrible nuclear war that caused the shifting of the poles and Earth magnetic field 42,000 years ago.
2) It may have led to what the Australian scientists explained with "...the atmosphere was so much ionized that it "created aurorae in the subtropics..." "God only knows (why this happened)
3) But if our scientists studied and acknowledged Billy they would not know.
4) And if world's politicians would read and acknowledge that he truly cares for humanity, that what he said is unbiased and true, they could save mankind from repeating many past mistakes.
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Tat_tvam_asi
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Post Number: 1613
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Monday, March 01, 2021 - 12:33 am: |
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Some Food For Thought: The Suffering From Gene Manipulation
1) There is no exact date mentioned in CR251 when the gene manipulation happened or when the gene manipulated races escaped From Sirius.
But we know from ...
https://www.futureofmankind.info/Billy_Meier/Attacking_questions_from_Japan
... that the yellow races escaped from Sirius at an unknown date to a planet Kudra in the Nisan system. There they were discovered by an expedition from the Lyra system 16 million years ago. (The Lyrans took 4000 Kudrans with them and settled them on Lasan.) We do not know how long the yellow races lived on Kudra before being discovered by the Lyrans.
2 Conclusions:
The gene-manipulation must have happened more than 16 million ago.
If we hypothesize that 1 (gene-manipulated) human incarnation consisted of 100 years on earth and 150 years in the beyond a human being would have, on average, suffered at least through (16,000,000 : 250 =) 64,000 gene-manipulated incarnations!
IT COULD BE EVEN MORE
- if the gene-manipulation happened more than 16 million years ago.
- if (what should be the rule) a human being lived less than 100 years
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Tat_tvam_asi
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Post Number: 1614
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Monday, March 01, 2021 - 12:56 am: |
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PS
It may, of course be, that a human being progressed in his/her evolution much more than others, that [s]he had to wait longer periods in the beyond for an adequate environment to eventuate before [s]he was reborn. But the amount of incarnations would still be staggering. |
Kiwiseeker
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Post Number: 210
Registered: 08-2006
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 30, 2021 - 02:49 pm: |
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I have a section on my website ,"The Revolution of Truth", on the Gizeh Intelligences. I would like clarification regarding Arus I and Arus XI and more.
Arus i (The Barbarian) was the JHWH under whose leadership, Semjasa fathered Adam.
Arus XI was a distant relative of Arus -I assume Arus 1 -10 generations, so would seem to fit.
When Contact 70 was corrected, about 100,000 years was added on to previous dates, so in that contact, Arus 1 (The Barbarian) came from Beta-Centauri over 100,000 years ago. His son Arus II, also featured at that time.
So, do we have 2 Arus i The Barbarians?
The events surrounding Pelegon, Jesas,Atlant and Muras all occured over 100,000 years ago, according to contact 70.
Also:
Malona destroyed about the same time as the Great Pyramid was built 71,344 BCE.
Mars affected by Destroyer Comet. People leave for Malona and Earth 73.000 BCE.
Adam (ancestor of Joseph & Maria) lived for over 2,000 years. This seems to be rather large!
I have a section on my website ,"The Revolution of Truth", on the Gizeh Intelligences. I would like clarification regarding Arus I and Arus XI and more.
Arus i (The Barbarian) was the JHWH under whose leadership, Semjasa fathered Adam.
Arus XI was a distant relative of Arus -I assume Arus 1 -10 generations, so would seem to fit.
When Contact 70 was corrected, about 100,000 years was added on to previous dates, so in that contact, Arus 1 (The Barbarian) came from Beta-Centauri over 100,000 years ago. His son Arus II, also featured at that time.
So, do we have 2 Arus i The Barbarians?
The events surrounding Pelegon, Jesas,Atlant and Muras all occured over 100,000 years ago, according to contact 70.
Also:
Malona destroyed about the same time as the Great Pyramid was built 71,344 BCE.
Mars affected by Destroyer Comet. People leave for Malona and Earth 73,000 BCE.
Adam (ancestor of Joseph & Maria) lived for over 2,000 years. This seems to be rather large!
Thanks in advance-Charles |
Kiwiseeker
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Post Number: 211
Registered: 08-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, March 31, 2021 - 06:02 pm: |
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Bill -your post 1597: "..Semjase told us in CR09: In 38,023 an earth shattering war destroyed our planet which left only a few thousand people alive … (War of Pelegon’s Races)
- Details see CR 9:121-127"
No such date given in C9, but:
127. Everything without residue was destroyed, and only a few thousand human beings were able to survive, ...
Where did you get 38,023?
That event of 42,000 years ago. Is there a reference for an Earth-DC interaction at that time? You say nuclear war is a possibility.
There is evidence that nuclear war happened in India. Also, some years ago I was reading about evidence of ancient nuclear explosions in the US -melted rocks I think. I am not sure if this was from Billy's contacts or another source.
Charles |
Tat_tvam_asi
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Post Number: 1624
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Thursday, April 01, 2021 - 02:22 am: |
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Hi Charles.
Thank you for correcting this mistake.
You are definitely right: There is no mention of the year 38,023 BCE in CR 9.
I even checked the German CRs Vol. 1 (which I bought at the SSSC in 2013) and no, it was not mentioned there, either.
So - where I did I get this "date cum CR09" from?
Not sure but I may have read it somewhere and used it in good faith (without further checking in the CRs).
Bill |
Tat_tvam_asi
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Post Number: 1625
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Thursday, April 01, 2021 - 02:52 am: |
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Found it:
Anthony Hall posted this on July 13, 2001:
"38,023 B.C.: Refugees of the Pelegon era fled Earth during revolt, settling in the region of Beta-Centauri where they erected a new culture. The Earth was at peace again, avoided for 7,000 years."
http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/14/8839.html#POST4910
Source of the Date Difference:
Anthony Hall took the date from a book by Wendell Stevens:
Message From The Pleiades Meier/Stevens Vol 3
I may have concluded that those lucky enough to flee may have done so at the end the terrible war in 38,023 BCE - the following period of 7,000 years is mentioned in CR 09 and CR70 as the period following this war.
But the CRs present a different timeline:
As Atlant arrived in 33,000 BCE it should not be 38,023 but 40,000 BCE.
So taking the CRs as the relevant basis you are right, it should be 40,000 BCE.
Bill |
Tat_tvam_asi
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Post Number: 1626
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Thursday, April 01, 2021 - 06:50 am: |
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The Message Inside A Tree …
Some years ago, during excavations for a geothermal power plant, an ancient tree (Maori name: “kauri”) was found in a bog in Ngawha on NZ’s North Island. It not only measured 2.5 m in diameter and was 20 m high – carbon dating proved that the tree lived for 1500 years, between 41,000 and 42,500 years.
But the most astonishing finding by researchers from the South Australian Museum analysing the ancient piece of wood were the astonishing radiocarbon levels they found:
For details of their study google for
“A global environmental crisis 42,000 years ago” (Alan Cooper, Chris Turney, J. Palmer, Alan Hogg)
In a nutshell this is what they concluded:
- There was a surge in radiation from space
- Earth's protective magnetic field had weakened to some 6% of its present day strength by 41,500 years ago
- Earth’s poles flipped
- Earth’s climate shifted - perhaps contributing to the disappearance of large mammals
- Not only the earth’s cosmic shield was down, the Sun’s cosmic shield, too
The scientists were shocked but had no explanation:
- " Evidence from ice cores suggests that, around this same time, the Sun was experiencing several “grand minima”—episodes of low magnetic activity..." - "... the (Earth's) magnetic field ebbed and surged..."
“ … The atmosphere was so much ionized that it "created aurorae in the subtropics..."
One of the team’s lead authors commenting on “What happens when the atmosphere is so much ionized?" - “God only knows... We’re only scratching the surface of what geomagnetic change has done.”
What would Alan Cooper (one of the study’s lead authors) say if he knew the information that we have from the Plejaren? That then, 42,000 years ago, Pelegon’s races revolted against Jesas who 20 years earlier had killed Pelegon’s successor and caused a war that was crueller than any of the WWs we know.
Although CR 09 and CR 70 only tell of a most destructive war (Semjase in CR09:127: “Only a few thousand were able to survive… ”) but we may infer what happened by studying what the Plejaren tell us about more recent events in our own time:
In CR 34 Ptaah tells Billy:
899. The Earth magnetism has actually been disturbed by the atomic bomb explosions.
900. That means, due to the explosions a very weak retro-pull effect has been caused to the Earth and has influenced the rotation in values barely measurable.
901. That means, that the Earth has been forced out of its normal rotation and slowly now seeks a new rotation course for itself.
https://www.futureofmankind.info/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_034
In CR 680 the Plejaren add that the more than 2000 nuclear tests during the past 80 years caused
- a strange wobble in Earth’s movement *)
- an unusual pole movement, (CR 680:158) **)
- the magnetic poles are shifting which also contributes to climate change (CR680:158) **)
- see CR 680:904 – 907 which explains the shift of our poles in more detail
*)https://www.futureofmankind.info/Billy_Meier/Plejaren_Federation
**) www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_680
NZ's “kauri” tree was a “time capsule” telling us that
1) 42,000 ago *) a terrible nuclear war raged on our planet - through which Earth lost its protective
magnetic shield - its poles shifted - the atmosphere was so much ionized that it "created aurorae in the
subtropics..."
2) It is yet another warning to our world leaders and scientists:
If you continue on the same path as you do now – seeking knowledge to dominate over your fellow humans
- you steer our planet onto a path of destruction:
There will be no victor - only vanquished.
Bill |
Kiwiseeker
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Post Number: 212
Registered: 08-2006
| | Posted on Friday, April 02, 2021 - 02:20 am: |
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Hi Bill,
Thanks for tour input. You write:"As Atlant arrived in 33,000 BCE it should not be 38,023 but 40,000 BCE.
So taking the CRs as the relevant basis you are right, it should be 40,000 BCE."
The other day I came across C703 -very interesting about the various Pelegons. Ptaah provides some clarification re C70. So we can have confidence in the C70 events & dates:
111. This was 133,000 Earth years ago according to today's calendar.[new arrivals]
113. Under the leadership of Atlant ... [Also his wife Karyatide & Muras.]
What really bugs me is about Arus I 'The Barbarian'.
125. This happened 113,000 years ago. [coming to Earth].
131. There from the north Aru's son Aru II set out and invaded those lands which you now call India...
Arus’ overseers procreated Adams, Ledons and Tetels in Middle-East, Africa 12,900 years ago, counting backwards from the year 1975 when Contact-Report #39 was recorded.[Arus II also mentioned at this time].
Billy Answers Questions - Nov, 2011 - Savio: Part of his question -"It seems that Atlantis and Mu could not have been peaceful and prosperous for such a long time such as over 120,000 years."[Formation of Atlantis until it's destruction]
So, there are 2 discrepancies (so I believe):
1)Arus I & Arus II are recorded at 2 dates about 100,000 years apart. 2)Atlantis existed for 120,000 years.It does not compute! I want to include a timeline on my website, but I want no errors.
Interesting about the Kauri tree. Something similar when an adze was discovered in a layer of volcanic ash -the Taupo eruption 186 CE. The NZ Maoris claim that they were here first, but this is not so.The caldera lake of Taupo is at the centre of the North Island. The tephra erupted is estimated as 60-100 cubic kilometres, compared with 18 for Krakatoa!
Charles |
Tat_tvam_asi
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Post Number: 1627
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Saturday, April 03, 2021 - 06:09 am: |
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Hi Charles,
Re. those dates ...
I think Billy mentions in one (or some?) of his CRs or writings that sometimes when transcribing what has been transmitted to him (in sign language, I think (??)) the add-on of 100,000 occurred (because the transmitted signs may look similar (??))
There is as well, I think, a document which lists all the errors and their corrections that have occurred so far.
But despite thorough checking I could not find either of these sources: I am waiting for an email to CF. But, perhaps, Scott or Pat would know, too?
Salome,
Bill
Apropos "Pre Maori Settlements" or "How old was the axe found in NZ's volcanic ash?"
"Kupe sailed from Hawaiki to New Zealand about AD 950, ... and found it unoccupied... The "Great Fleet" arrived 2 centuries later ..."
But many people speculate that a pre-Maori population existed before the mythical Kupe arrived.
Is it true that in 1874 they found a prehistoric tree stump (may be 150,000 years old?) with carvings in it? That they dug out a giant skull (TV documentary which was later withdrawn - "7-foot tall pre-Maori disappear from TVNZ" ? |
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