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Scott
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Post Number: 3451
Registered: 12-1999
| | Posted on Monday, October 04, 2021 - 06:40 am: | 
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Hi Bill,
If you are talking about line 50 in CR 561, it already shows "earth future ones"?
Is that the correction you wanted to make?
Thanks
Scott |
Tat_tvam_asi
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Post Number: 1741
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Monday, October 04, 2021 - 06:17 am: |
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Thank you, Bob.
A picture says more than many words ... and you really know how to present the most fitting ones!
Salome,
Bill |
Scott
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Post Number: 3452
Registered: 12-1999
| | Posted on Monday, October 04, 2021 - 06:58 am: |
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Hi Bill,
I found the issue, the UK Server was different than the US Server. I updated the US Server which had "Earth Future".
Salome |
Tat_tvam_asi
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Post Number: 1742
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Monday, October 04, 2021 - 07:14 am: |
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Thank you, Scott.
Salome, Bill |
Scott
Moderator
Post Number: 3453
Registered: 12-1999
| | Posted on Monday, October 04, 2021 - 09:05 am: |
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Your Welcome Bill |
Tat_tvam_asi
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Post Number: 1743
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Monday, October 04, 2021 - 07:08 pm: |
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Life in Atlantis / Egypt Anno 10500 to 9498 BCE
No-one really knows what life was like 12000 years ago. But if we accept what EC tells us in his readings^), there is no denying that, in the time before 9498 BCE, many people in Egypt had some animal features. And that the Atlanteans arriving in Egypt helped them to get rid of these hindrances.
According to EC’s readings the arriving Atlanteans established two institutions, the “Temple ^^) of Sacrifice” and the “Temple Beautiful” – which “ … offered a channel for purging the body and mind as a hospital or school would today…” (Reading 1007-3)
= > In the “Temple of Sacrifice entities would offer themselves for the purification of their bodies and mind” (various readings):
“… comparing to the present hospitals where there might be operative measures used for the removal of such things as tumors, breaks, growths or the like …” the Temple of Sacrifice was used for the removal of those things that hindered or took hold upon … or had been a part of old disturbances …” This included the removal of both, mental and bodily “hindrances”.
= > The “Temple Beautiful” was more a refined preparation of the mind … giving (those that came for a treatment) guidance in their relationships with the material, the mental, the spiritual affairs of men…” (Reading 1641)
Why would the Atlanteans help these partly deformed humans?
The main reason may have been that they were well aware of what happened on our planet in 389,000 BC *). I.e., they may have felt a need to undo the genetical engineering their forefathers had done. But there may be an additional explanation:
In one of his readings EC explained how the life style of Atlanteans differed from ours:
Similar to Plejaren-life on Erra “there was not a laboring for the sustenance of life” as people on our planet do” in the present. The reading then goes on to explain that all manual work – in the fields and in the homes - was done by (either) “automatons” (robots / machines?) or “things”. EC compares these 'things' as the “pets of today like the dog, the cat, the horse” i.e., beings that “had not the ability of self-control”.
“And it was about the treatment of those “things” about which much of the disturbing forces arose… “. That is to say: Two groups had formed in Atlantis. One, the “Children of the Law of One” pursuing a spiritual goal (e.g., group meditation and prayer – goal: entering into a 4th dimensional oneness-consciousness), the other, “the Sons of Belial” with a radical material desire/outlook on life), thinking only of themselves, using spiritual powers for material gains, using “Gewalt” (aggression / coercion) to achieve their material goals.
And so, while the first group made sure that the domestic animal like “things” who worked for them had good working conditions, the second, self-indulging group seems to have abused them, treating them badly, without any respect. This different mindset, so EC, let to the internal split in Atlantis.
So, maybe the Atlanteans (“Children of the Law of One”) escaping the foretold doom in Atlantis - when they saw the deformed human hybrids in Egypt – they may have wanted to improve their life conditions, just as they had done to the “things” that worked for them in Atlantis.
The Plejaren CRs tell us how Atlantis was destroyed (which is not mentioned in EC’s readings) but they do not tell us much about what caused the internal rift in Atlantis.
We know from Semjase (CR 60:31 ^^^) that “scientists, in their greed for might,” tried “with all means available to them, to seize dominion”. We know that they returned “hate-drenched”. This may match the description of what EC calls the “Sons of Belial”. But was it only the escaping scientists that followed that maxim? CR 60 tells us that that the scientists fleeing to Beta Centauri were assisted by “allies that were well-disposed to them”. So, maybe there were others, too.
But while EC’s information may give us an insight “in pre-9498 Atlantis and Egypt”, the Plejaren information has a profound message for our time. Because it may tell some 43.75 % of people born in our time ****) that it was a mindset of hate which caused the Atlantis cataclysm in 9498 BCE... The deadly genocides. The wars. And the pandemic now.
“For as it remains in the present day…. With what spirit do you declare yourself? That in conformity with the universal consciousness, the law of love? Or that of hate, dissension, contention which produces burdens upon your fellow associates…” (EC - Reading 2464)
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^) Edgar Cayce gave some (past) life readings to ca 1600 people that came to him with mental or physical ailments they could not explain.
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The rather biblical terms should not surprise: EC was a Christian Sunday School teacher. And many of those he gave readings to, they were Christians, too. So, he sometimes used religious terms to describe the prehistoric (pre-Christian) situations.
But some of his references (re-incarnation, creative forces instead of God, universal consciousness) point – unwittingly - to a non-Christian concept.
^^^)
www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_060
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Past genetic engineering producing part animal part human life forms CR 236:15-52
http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_236
**) Only a few, like the faun, may have come from foreign worlds **)
www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_239
Ptaah:
16. A faun is a horned and goat-footed, sexually lascivious life form, whose original form once came from a very distant world from the Andromeda Galaxy to the Earth and lived on it for about 700 years and drove their lustful nuisance.
If I remember right Billy once remarked that some of Greek’s mythical creatures actually lived on our planet.
The sphinx image may have originated in Egypt and may have spread from there to other countries but it is somewhat unclear whether it depicted a real life being or not. Some say the head was modelled after King Chephren to express the great might of Egypt that he represented. And yes, we know from Billy (CR413:12) ***) that Pharaoh Chephren did create the Sphinx and that it was aligned with the Constellation of the Lion. But Chephren’s head was more longish rather than the much wider, more roundish head of the Sphinx.
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www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_413
****)
Edgar Cayce gave life readings to some 1600 people. A remarkably high number of them(700 out of 1600 =), 43.75 % had incarnations in Atlantis.
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Schantz
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Post Number: 338
Registered: 03-2007
| | Posted on Monday, October 04, 2021 - 09:15 pm: |
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Scott,
I think it's due to the information in the contact below.
http://futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_777
It is spreading in snowball fashion.
Up next?
Citizenfreepress |
Kenneth
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Post Number: 1352
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Monday, October 04, 2021 - 09:27 pm: |
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Hi Bill,
Very interesting information, thanks for the work that you put into this. In your report it is stated, “Only a few, like the faun, may have come from foreign worlds…”
I also noticed in Billy’s book, “Through Space and Time”, on page 75 it states, “Billy once had an experience with an amphibious being. This reace exhibits physical features other than those of human beings of Earth, and this amphibious creature could not make itself verbally understood, its speech mechanism is formed differently, and it communicates telepathically with its own kind.”
Kenneth |
Hugo
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Post Number: 1058
Registered: 04-2015
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 05, 2021 - 08:02 pm: |
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Tat_tvam_asi,
I also thank you for the work you put into doing that! I always enjoy reading about Atlantis even if it is a refresher.  |
Tat_tvam_asi
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Post Number: 1744
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 06, 2021 - 10:09 am: |
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Thank you, Kenneth and Hugo.
Salome, Bill
I, too, like the topic because "the legacy of Atlantis" is within us even today.
But a comparative analysis needs some background research and contemplation: The Plejaren information is much more aligned to a definite history and timeline whereas most EC readings do not mention specific dates: They are more personalized/event-driven; one has to assemble the puzzle pieces that describe the events/surroundings of a person's past life.
So, the "next one" may take a bit of time.
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Phi_spiral
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Post Number: 152
Registered: 04-2020
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 06, 2021 - 05:39 pm: |
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Bill: "The reading then goes on to explain that all manual work – in the fields and in the homes - was done by (either) “automatons” (robots / machines?) or “things”. EC compares these 'things' as the “pets of today like the dog, the cat, the horse” i.e., beings that “had not the ability of self-control. And so, while the first group made sure that the domestic animal like “things” who worked for them had good working conditions, the second, self-indulging group seems to have abused them, treating them badly, without any respect.”
Possibly a depiction of one of these "things" that EC describes and consistent with Plejaren CN information regarding the past genetic engineering, which produced part animal/part human life forms, is found in this ancient relief carving from Mesopotamia. Notice the hands have opposable thumbs necessary for manual labor.
Regards
Bob |
Tat_tvam_asi
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Post Number: 1745
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Thursday, October 07, 2021 - 02:48 am: |
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Unreal … - Great find, Bob. Thank you.
The artist definitely wanted to portray part human-part animal beings. EC told us that the "things" lacked "self-control" which may explain why they were put on a leash).
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Newinitiation
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Post Number: 2668
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, October 09, 2021 - 01:08 am: |
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Great find Bob.
Now as an extension of the information that you have provided I now thus have ultimately discovered the secret of the pyramids.
It's wasn't human beings who built the pyramids with their brute physical labour alone but they had the assistance of these genetically manipulated chimeras, giant human beings 33 feet tall and believe it or not ROBOTS.
It's done and dusted the only inevitable conclusion.
Matt lee |
Scott
Moderator
Post Number: 3463
Registered: 12-1999
| | Posted on Saturday, October 09, 2021 - 06:24 am: |
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CR 315 seems pretty specific in regards to how the pyramids were constructed...Its does seem paradoxical that beings with "consciousness based powers" on one hand would use those powers to assist in the construction of the pyramids and at the same time allow thousands of slaves to die....perhaps those slaves were being influenced by those with "consciousness based powers" to do the very hard work at the cost of their lives?....
Ptaah:
11. Both are correct, but we actually gave you an enlightening answer about that at earlier times.
12. On the one hand about 200,000 human beings were involved in the construction work with their physical strength and efforts, but on the other hand there were also a few extraterrestrial humans from the constellations of Orion and Leo who had telekinetic powers and used them to a small extent in the construction of the pyramids.
13. However, this telekinetic involvement of the extraterrestrials was really only small, even if it is emphasized, but this is only for the reason that it was based on consciousness and not on muscle power.
14. The human beings who had to do the hardest physical work at the pyramid constructions were often prisoners and slaves, and many thousands died of complete exhaustion during the hard work.
15. However, the miserably deceased were replaced again and again by new prisoners and new slaves as well as by other labourers who had been brought in.
16. In total, 40,738 human beings died during the construction of the pyramids and in the partly underground quarries where the large stone blocks were chiselled out. |
Matcha
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Post Number: 22
Registered: 02-2021
| | Posted on Saturday, October 09, 2021 - 07:16 am: |
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Hi Scott,
I cannot find this pyramid building explanation in CR 315. Ptaah's v12 says something completely different to this in the futureofmankind CR 315 pages. Could you check the CR number, please? Or is your posting an updated version of the CR?
BTW, assuming these are actual words by Ptaah they explain why you did not post my previous submission on a possibility for the builders and building process contained in the K19 movie, although we do know there were different reconstructions done throughout different periods of time.
Thank you.
Chris
Peace in wisdom be on Earth and among all creatures.
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Scott
Moderator
Post Number: 3464
Registered: 12-1999
| | Posted on Saturday, October 09, 2021 - 08:34 am: |
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Thanks Chris, My mistake its 319...... |
Scott
Moderator
Post Number: 3466
Registered: 12-1999
| | Posted on Saturday, October 09, 2021 - 08:39 am: |
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Hi Chris,
I found this post on Oct 3
"Hi Bob and All,
The Movie Great Pyramid K 2019 - Director Fehmi Krasniqi has some great correlations between Egypt and South America. It also appears to answer many of the construction issues relating to the Great Pyramid. The graphics and CG are also noteworthy."
Is this the post your talking about? |
Matcha
Member
Post Number: 23
Registered: 02-2021
| | Posted on Saturday, October 09, 2021 - 08:57 am: |
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CR 319. Thanks, Scott.
Yes. That was the post, Scott. Sorry, you are right it is K 2019, not K19; and you did post it, I just missed it at the bottom of the page.
Chris
Peace in wisdom be on Earth and among all creatures.
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Scott
Moderator
Post Number: 3467
Registered: 12-1999
| | Posted on Saturday, October 09, 2021 - 09:59 am: |
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No Problem Chris,
Salome |
Kenneth
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Post Number: 1354
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Saturday, October 09, 2021 - 10:10 am: |
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Regarding ancient history, the pyramids in Egypt, the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah and fluidal energies seem to be all connected in this historical event.
This following information (in part) is from Michael Horns post "[New post] Did Biblical Sky Daddy Destroy Sodom and Gomorrah with Atom Bombs?"
Billy: …what was it with Sodom and Gomorrah; what actually happened there – how were these two cities destroyed?
Quetzal:
117. Several factors are to be mentioned:
118. On the one hand, a meteorite fell to the Earth and exploded high over the area of the two cities, which would now actually be designated as larger villages.
119. This led to devastating destruction of both cities, triggering a massive earthquake, by which the Earth was torn open – like in Petra – and by underground volcanic activity, small and larger chunks of sulphur were flung high and across the country, which also naturally caused much disaster, and by this – as also by the exploding meteorite – many human beings were killed.
120. The remaining part of the total destruction was caused by the megalomaniac and crazy God of the Hebrews, an extraterrestrial who had his headquarters deep under the pyramid of Giza.
121. His punishment for the disobedience of the population of Sodom and Gomorrah, against his commands, was that he let two small atom bombs ignite over the two cities, which finally levelled everything to the ground, killing all humans and animals.
Contact Report 230: http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_230
Billy: …//… we spoke of Sodom and Gomorrah. In response to my question about what had actually happened, you explained…: On the one hand a meteorite fell to the Earth and exploded high above the area of the two cities, which would today actually be designated as larger villages. …//…many human beings were killed. The remaining part of the total destruction was triggered by the megalomaniac and irrational god of the Hebrews, an extraterrestrial who had his headquarters deep beneath the Great Pyramid of Giza.
Quetzal:
515. In fact, these questions have never been discussed, which is why I will deal with them and provide some further explanations.
516. So listen then:
517. The Dead Sea is not really an ocean, but a salt lake without runoff with a lot of potash salt and bromine salt, whereby the total concentration is to be calculated with 33 percent, in the so-called Jordan Trench.
518. As you know, it is in Arabic language …
Billy: … called Al-Bahar al Maijit.
Quetzal:
519. That’s what I was about to say.
520. The Hebrew name is Yam-Hammelah = Dead Sea, which however is also known to you.
521. The lake is 15 kilometres wide and 80 kilometres long and covers an area of 1,020 square kilometre.
522. Due to the peninsula Lisan as well as due to solid sediments of salt, the lake i.e. the Dead Sea is divided into a small basin in the south and a large basin in the north.
523. The Dead Sea is about 400 meters deep, and the bottom of the Dead Sea lies at the deepest point 829 meters below sea level, which is the deepest depression on Earth.
524. The origin of the Dead Sea can be traced back to a primeval earthquake, during which the salty and partly rocky earth was deeply torn open and formed a deep canyon, in which in the course of time many waters accumulated, especially through the very ancient Jordan, which flows into the salt lake in the north.
525. Then about 4,500 years ago the big catastrophe occurred, as I explained on 28 February 1987.
526. However, in order to explain the events of the volcanism and the invisible ruins of Sodom and Gomorrah in more detail, the following shall be said:
527. The events with the meteorite, the ignition of the two small nuclear bombs of the irrational God as well as the volcanic eruption and the earthquake took place within a few hours and thus in rapid succession.
528. There were two earthquakes, the first of which had a magnitude of 6.3 according to the terrestrial Richter scale and the second a magnitude of 8.6, which resulted in devastating consequences.
529. Since the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah were built on very unstable and loose ground in the near shore area of the Dead Sea, both cities slipped due to a huge landslide into the Dead Sea and sank on its bottom.
530. The landslide was caused by an enormous water pressure from the ground, from which water was pressed up, causing the layers of the ground to liquefy and slide.
531. From the beginning of the landslide to its end and until everything disappeared in the Dead Sea, a time of just 27 minutes passed.
532. This is the reason why practically no ruins of the cities can be found in the shore areas of the salt lake.
533. Only scattered ruins, which were located outside the cities, remained and were buried under sand and dust.
534. The fire, however, which rained from the sky before the two cities were completely destroyed and sank into the Dead Sea, consisted of glowing chunks of sulphur and glowing soil, whereby everything was flung up from within the ground by enormous volcanisms and rained down on the cities.
535. This volcanism, however, was not of the usual kind as it appears with normal volcanoes, because it was thruthly a methane volcanism, which means that methane gases ignited inside the Earth in large chambers.
536. This led to tremendous explosions, which tore open the ground in several places, eventually forming smaller craters from which the sulphur chunks and the glowing earth were ejected, thereby causing so to speak fire to rain from the sky.
Contact Report 248: http://futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_248
Billy: Did your ancestors have something to do with Sodom and Gomorrah?
Ptaah: 149. Not the ancestors of our own lineage but those of diverging lineages, for these interfered in the affairs of the ancient Jews, who degenerated – for example, in Sodom and Gomorrah – into wide-scale incest, for which they were punished with a total annihilation by nuclear fire, etc. by the one who was angry about these unbelievable activities.
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In this instance it would not appear to be an accident, but a directed meteorite struck Sodom & Gomorrah as did Atlantis at a different time. Regarding total annihilation by nuclear fire would also mean the destruction for the residents fluidal energies. And most everything associated with these cities was buried by a landslide over 800 meters (2,625 feet) below sea level. The extraterrestrial responsible had his headquarters deep under the pyramid of Giza. My understanding, this would have been the Bafath.
Kenneth |
Tat_tvam_asi
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Post Number: 1749
Registered: 04-2011
| | Posted on Saturday, October 09, 2021 - 10:21 am: |
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Hi Matt,
The question you raised in relation in some of your past (2610, 2606 and earlier) posts: Could it be that the structures you had identified were some remnants of Pelegon’s times? The “unfinished version of the OM symbol” may look a bit more recent than being 40,000 years old - but with regard to the stone formations who knows ... Just a thought.
Bill
CR 60 (Semjase about Pelegon’s Race)
18. During the following millennia their descendants lived on the Earth and built up a high culture.
19. They built many and large cities and inhabited all continents of the Earth.
22. However, before the 10,000 years were completed, …
23. An Earth world war took place to the extent as has never happened before and has not been brought to Earth since.
24. Everything, but really completely everything that the ones who had come from space had built up, was destroyed and annihilated and only a few thousand human beings of these extraterrestrials survived the tremendous catastrophe. |
Newinitiation
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Post Number: 2669
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, October 09, 2021 - 01:39 pm: |
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Scott as Chris stated the pyramids were built and rebuilt with one other major refurbishment work having taken place and who knows which exact pyramid they were specifically referring to out of the tens of thousands of pyramids built all over the world throughout the millennia when they stated the use of telekinesis or slaves although we have guessed right.
We inevitably arrive at the same spot once again with Billy and the plejaren methodology and modus operandi in that because they tend to answer the question posed to them and elaborate only to the extent those questions query they leave out further details like we have experienced over and over again so much so that I would like to coin it the Atlantis effect.
For example at one point in time mass confusion resulted over the seeming contradictory information over the Atlantis issue here on this forum.
Why?
Because things just didn't add up at all but that was until Billy, like the little kid in the 'sixth sense' movie towards the end of it, anticlimatically revealed that there was 4 different Atlantises.
This is when everything clicked and revealed a lot of things like the flaw in our thinking when approaching Billy and the plejaren statements in that due to our shortsightedness and lack of considering certain information our conclusions were faulty.
So when they speak you have to remind yourself in the back of your head that there is always more than meets the eye and consider the statements as being partial and not complete.
I build things for a living and trust me when I state that where there is no tolerances allowed in the specification trying to get things within even 1mm becomes a very difficult but not impossible feat but that is with modern technology and equipment.
Now factor in tolerances within 1/100 of a millimeter on an uneven surface fitting precisely over the same contoured and uneven surface over a large megalithic stone surface and the math speak loudly for itself.
Unless you use ROBOTS and precision technology involving stone shaping, stone cutting and stone surface scanning Lidar type CNC and milling machines you cannot ever never achieve the level of precision that the pyramid builders had achieved.
Therefore the only inevitable conclusion is that along with these technologies they've also had robotic megalithic stone delivery and fitting machines technology that would somehow crane these multi tonne blocks of granite and stone to its final fitting destination.
Without sophisticated machines, tools and equipment there is no way physical brawn alone could've achieved the level of precision and the scale of engineering work that went into building the pyramids.
Matt lee |
Newinitiation
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Post Number: 2670
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, October 09, 2021 - 02:49 pm: |
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Hi Bill I don't exactly know how old they are as you cannot radiocarbon date stones but what I can say is that if you compare the rate of erosions of megalithic stone works from all around the world from ancient temples to pyramids with its age somewhat determined then you can do a comparisons to have a rough estimate of the age of the stones used in Sydney's mega terraformed engineered structures and giant faces.
What is apparent is that if you follow Billy's timeline of ET history on earth you can guess relatively correctly of the age of these megalithic works.
I've determined that because these stones used to build thousands upon thousands of giant faces are blackened by what appears to be volcanic ash covering hundreds of thousands of square kilometers the volcanic explosion must've been epic therefore I have two possibilities.
One being that these giant faces were already created before the youngerdras event which is basically the destruction of greater Atlantis event some 13,500 years ago which would make these giant engineered faces older than 13,500 years.
Another possibility is as you've stated.
The epic war of the worlds during pelegon times some 40 to 50 thousands years ago.
Now let's say the erosion around the sphinx at giza is as old as the first pyramid itself then it took roughly 73,500 years for nature to erode the outer barrier stones to that state.
If you compare that to the erosion of stones in Sydney then the one in sphinx is much more eroded therefore the Sydney giant faces are much younger.
So either roughly 50,000 or 13,500 year age makes sense.
I personally saw, touched, broke off and stepped on these megalithic Sydney stones and I have to say I am leaning towards the 13,500 year mark.
I am so excited about more discoveries of giant stone faces in Sydney that number in the thousands.
I have posted more satellite photos of these giant stone faces in my Facebook page under my name.
Judging by the few reactions I am certain that people cannot see it yet and have thought to themselves where is this face he is talking about.
The eyes to see and ears to hear must be cultivated in order to see these faces.
Matt lee |
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