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    victor diaz |
Hi Andrew and Christian: A lot of scientific literature has been written on Mars in the magazines, journals, web, conferences and symposia. The Red planet is the target for the next decades. Mars is a huge planet compared with the Moon to explore, its small than Earth and with different atmospheric conditions. For the mars-sciences exploration schedule the planet it’s a “paradise” as you can take a look from above, with satellites without the vegetation cover, so it shows you how its crust has been developed. Mars is mainly volcanic but also has sedimentary features. Actually if you see the crust of Mars its half south portion shows a highland cratered surface; instead the northern portion is characterized by low lands of flat surface covered by sand, lava fluxes, volcanoes and less crateration. When you analize the south higlands you can see super big craters on it as Hellas, a mounster crater of more than 2000 km in diameter and 9km deep. But it is not the only one, there are two more visibles craters almost of that size!. Hellas and the other big ones were more recent impacts than the majority of the small crateration process that took place before them. As there are no official ages from Mars surface because we have no samples yet, the ages involved are suposed to be billions of years by an hypothesis that says that the large crateration area in the south was developed during the first stages of the planet formation four billion years ago, and could explain the development of a crust from a planet with very light or no atmosphere but do not match for one with that could had atmosphere, oceans, rivers, etc. There is a very good chance to probe in the comming future that Mars had very similar natural processes as the Earth including seas, vegetation, rain, water transport sediments and of course, life. Two main events are exposed on the south surface of Mars, the first event was crateration and formation of the higlands and the second one the formation of super large craters that superimposed the former higlands and craters. The explanation of this processes involves cosmic influences where one or several extraordinary explosions could occured in the sourrandings of Mars and the SOL system.Also theposibility exist that the planet received the visit of a meteoric rain and some couple of huge comets from the external portion of the same SOL system. According to the well known contact 251, Mars played the roll of a ping-pong ball into a very dramatic scenario where a big comet or roaming planet from this SOL system “wrenched” Mars and put it into another orbit that was the one Malona had, after this event this planet drifted away and took the orbit that Mars had, making an intermix setup. As Billy said, many milenia pased before the people of Malona destroyed the planet in an act of barbarism. When this happened Mars could be somehow near Malona and the actual south pole facing towards the explosions. It is suposed also that the highlands of Mars are not constructed from its crustal evolution, they seem to be part of the crateration process that involves “crustal” adds from unkwon origin. Mars during this catastrophe must drifted away due to several causes: one, the efect of numerous impacts in its surface from a near source that at one time or in several ocasions hit its surface; two, beside this effect the energy wave liberated and expanded from the explosions must played a significant part in this scenario when this waves dipersed through the space and pulled the planet far from its orbit. In the meantime or after another destructive forces took place by an unkwnon reason when in its drifting way Mars crushed up with extra large metorites, tree or more plunged its surface and pulled it out once again off from its way and finished where we actually know. The surface must be boiled up and all life in that planet gone, it lost almost all itst atmosphere, its seas, rivers and lakes vanished. As one evidience of this “pulls” and “wrenches” the surfaces of the planet presents a very large fracture zone that has been made by a severe uplift of the crust due to the mantle push posibly attracted by some kind of super gravitational force of a large celestial body that came very close to Mars. Some extraordinary photos of the Mars Surveyor shows sedimentary strata in several areas meaning that water processes and sedimentation took place in the past. There are also some erosional features in the limit of the highlands and on the borders of some extra large volcanoes that are very similars to those that are developed in Earth’s islands and continental borders within ocean basins; in the low lands the sand is moved by high energy winds making the most incredible sand dune deposits of round sides that goes up above the flanks of mountains that are not posible in Earth as in Mars the air is very thin and gravity is less. My question is predictable and deals with the main event exposed above. In some readings from the Web I found that Matthew Hurley page mentioned that Malona was destroyed 200,000 years ago and probably somelse wrote sonmething too, but reacently a friend that has Guido’s M. book told me that in the last page of this book there is a table or diagram that shows the date of 75,000 years for that event. As I do not have this book neither the M. Hurley page is available today, could you please make light on this as the two dates are quiet different. And if it possible to know also if you don´t mind to check, from "Aus den Tiefen des Weltenraums" or from other source of Billy, when the Sirian genetically manipulated people arrived to the SOL System. Best regards Victor Hi Victor, The destroyed planet known as Malona, whose real name is "Phaeton," (which today is actually the asteroid belt situated between Mars and Jupiter) was blown to bits roughly 75,000 years ago according to Billy and the Plejarans. Regards, Andrew | ||
Norm |
When the first official world wide "We Are Not Alone" announcement comes. Will it be from Nasa/Governments admitting there's ancient artificial structures on Mars? Also about what time frame will this announcement happen? | ||
Andrew C. Cossette |
Hi Norm, We don't know either answer. Andrew | ||
Norm |
I just read an amazing new article on Mars Face & Nasa Discloser at Richard Hoaglands Enterprise Mission web site. Check it out its a must read! http://www.enterprisemission.com/skeptik.htm | ||
Norm |
Artificial Structures on Mars press conference today. Go see these amazing new pictures on Mars & listen to the conference. Washington, DC – On Thursday, April 5, 2001 at 9 a.m., Meta Research [www.metaresearch.org/home.asp, “About Meta Research”] will release new findings that provide compelling evidence for the presence of artificial structures on the planet Mars. The press conference will be held at the National Press Club, 529 14th Street, NW, Washington, DC, in the main room on the 13th floor. Widely published astronomer, Dr. Thomas Van Flandern will take Q&A and present findings representing contributions by dozens of researchers, including physicists, geologists, engineers, and image processing specialists from several organizations. The presentation materials will include photographic evidence from the NASA’s Mars Global Surveyor spacecraft, as well as independent photographic analysis. Several of these images have not previously been made public. The main room of the National Press Club was chosen to utilize its excellent video projection equipment. Other topics to be discussed include the following: § the posture of NASA and its contractor, JPL, toward evidence of anomalous features. § difficulties in obtaining proper consideration from primary peer review journals. § the urgent need for retargeting of the Mars Global Surveyor towards specific areas of high interest in connection with potential artifacts before the spacecraft runs out of maneuvering fuel later this year. Press packets will be available April 5 at the National Press Club. The press conference will be simulcast worldwide on the Internet at: http://www.connectlive.com/events/metaresearch/ Contact: MetaResearch 202/362-9176 metares@mindspring.com | ||
Steve M. |
Hi all, HAVE YOU SEEN THE LATEST FACE FOUND ON MARS ? This looks man made to me. What do you all think? There has been another FACE ON MARS DISCOVERED .This is from Fridays newspaper 5/11/01 (New York Post) http://www.nypost.com/news/worldnews/30158.htm Salome, Steve M. | ||
Savio |
Hi Steve It seems that it is NASA who ought to face the truth  Regards Savio | ||
Steve M. |
Savio, I'd have to agree. How stupid do they think people are ? Amazingly this is the only news story I saw on it. You would think it would be on the news all over the place.If anyone could foward the URL to Richard Hoagland that would be great. If he doesn't know about it already it will make his day. I sent info to one of his sites . Steve M. | ||
Norm |
I heard Richard Hoagland on Art Bell. Richard Hoagland has already seen that picture it was part of Tom Van Flandern's Mars press conference of a few weeks ago at the National Press Club, Richard is not happy with Tom Van Flandern who was the first to show this picture. Richard feels that it may be disinformation set up by NASA and Tom Van Flandern to help discredit the rest of the structures on Mars. Tom Van Flandern used to exchange ideas with Richard Hoagland but after Tom Van Flandern had a meeting with NASA he changed his relationship with Richard Hoagland. NASA may be setting up Tom Van Flandern to be the man credited with the discoveries on Mars or he is part of their disinformation campaign to discredit all the structures on Mars, even ex- astronaut Brian O'Leary who was on that dumb disinformation show about the Moon Landings being fake, is siding with Tom Van Flandern on this picture. In my opinion that picture seems a little hokey to me, but I could be wrong. | ||
Brock Bradford |
Before we get too excited....has anyone found the face in the NASA files on the official .gov site....? Brock | ||
Steve M. |
I haven't Brock , but it's a great idea. It could very well be disinformation. I havent seen or heard about the story anywhere else except for the one story. The sentence that raises a flag for me is "They also found glass-like tubes, measuring 60 feet in diameter, with exposed 1,000-foot sections and other artificial structures - as well as VEGETATION AND TREES.I don't see how vegetation & trees is possible. Maybe Billy knows something of this ? Edger Allen Poe said " the best place to hide something is in front of someones face(or something like that)All this info is out there , you just can't be sure what's real. It's so convenient, big brother doesn't have to hide info, they put it out there & just call the believer crazy & discredit those who choose to believe. What could be easier. If anyone knows or heard more about this new face , post the details. I sent the story to Discovery and asked them why it was not covered more extensively. If I get a reply , I'll post it. Salome, Steve M. | ||
Mario |
Hello people, Very interesting topic. Mr. Meier mentioned in one of the contact notes (251, I think) discoveries in Mars, evidences of an ancient civilisation... "The crowned face", the photograph shown by Mr. Van Flandern, is identified as MO203051a.gif sent by Mars Global Surveyor... I think sooner or later the truth will be known... but in the meantime, maybe you'd like to see this story, about Jonathann Reed, Ph. D. It'd be of interest what Mr. Meier/The Plejarans say about it, but your thoughts are important too. www.odysseylink.net/story1.htm Regards, Mario PS Look at those photographs! | ||
Mario |
Hello again, It seems the address I gave doesn't work... You can try this one /newurl/{www.aliendestiny.com} It goes to the same information. Dr. Jonathan Reed had a strange experience in october 1996. He took photos and video. Since then there has been attempts to kill him and close friends of him had been assasinated. Too much trouble for someone who is a fraud, I think. Mario | ||
Savio |
Hi Mario A very interesting case indeed! After visiting the website, I have a few questions regarding this case: 1. If the alien lives in and likes the temperature within the freezer that is around -10 degree C, it should not be caught by the dog outside its craft without any protecting suit/equipment. The outside temperature was just too high for it and will endanger its life! 2. It seems it is not logical that there was no shadow under the UFO. Any comments? Savio | ||
Michael Horn |
This case is recognized as being a total fraud. There was some disclosure about this on the Internet a few weeks ago. Michael | ||
Mario |
Yes, yes, that's a very good point Savio! I was wondering about this and other things too. Well, the video was on mexican tv last thursday and it was a national conmotion because it looks too real to be a hoax, it shows the creature lying on a table moving its eyes, breathing, and the object images are impressive too. Jaime Maussan said he has a video where it shows how the "link objet" is attached to the arm of Dr. Reed and he dissapears! The evidences are perplexing and there is a lot to investigate here because I don't think someone wants to be shoot in the shoulder just to have fun. What makes me go to doubt is the things this creature supposedly said to Dr. Reed, somehow I thought about Fatima and those theories about an alien race controlling governments or whatever... or Dr. Reed was just a victim of a lie. This man wasn't prepared for something like this and it's very possible that he believed all what he' been told, because he simply didn't know about these sort of things. There is a lot in pro and there is a lot against this case. Apparently he is not making money with this story. I think all participants in this forum have a solid background to make a conclusion for themselves. And let's go back to the Mars Images topic again... Moderator: Yes, Thank you Mario. Let's stick to the topic at hand. If you wish to segue to another topic, please find the relevant area in this Forum. It's too much maintenance to move off-topic posts around, so in the future, such posts will have to be removed from the Forum. Regards Mario | ||
Norm |
New "Face on Mars" Pictures, Nasa distorts image again! http://www.enterprisemission.com/about.htm http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/extended_may2001/face/index.html | ||
Norm |
Did Billy ever mention when the world will know about ruins on Mars?(When will the cover up end!) | ||
Steve M. |
Norm, It doesn't look like NASA will be admitting to anything being man made on Mars anytime soon(I hope I'm wrong), NASA is down playing the face once again. Check out this article from Friday. I also saw a show on Discovery science news over the weekend on the subject. http://dsc.discovery.com/news/briefs/20010521/marsface.html Salome , Steve M. | ||
Larry Driscoll |
Dear Norm and Steve, On February 22 and March 12, 2001 I sent to four Nasa officials, John Brett, Diane Thompson, Al V. Diaz, James Garvin and also to President of the American Astonautical Society Lori B. Garver four of my privately translated from German to English sections from Billy's "Aus den Tiefen des Weltenraums... Kontakte mit den Plejadiern/Plejaren" book along with a cover letter urging Nasa to plan a mission to explore Mars for remnant physical structures created by previous extraterrestrial intelligences, Two of the four sections sent specifically describe Mars in regard to Earth's history. "What the Extraterrestrials tell me about the Earthhuman" pages 188-207 and The future development of the Earth in political, social and geographical basis =........,History.... pages 291-308. There has been no response to my submittal. As well I sent these four sections to FIGU and Christian forwarded them on to Andrew as they might be useful in his groups translation of the entire book. Billy's "Aus den Tiefen.." book is just a woderful book. I wish every Earthhuman could read it. Billy relates in great detail Pleiadian/Plejaran homeworld life so that the Earthhuman can "meet" the extraterrestrial. | ||
Inger Wikstrom |
Hello to you all, Are there archaeological findings on Mars like skeletons from animals and humans left there, and how distant into the future will the scientists eventually discover this and other remains? Regards, Inger | ||
Inger Wikstrom |
Hello all, Is it true that Pleja's spy ships discover the Earth in 225000 B.C. and then they found colonies here, on Mars and on Milona. Regards, Inger | ||
Steve M. |
Hi Larry, Is Billy's "Aus den Tiefen.." available in English ? Salome, Steve M. | ||
Marc Juliano |
Hi Steve, I hope Larry doesn't mind I jump in. "Aus den Tiefen des Weltenraums" (From the Depths of Space) has been completely translated into English. It's scheduled to be the next focus of the FIGU-OCT Team which is currently translating the first ten Contact Reports. The focus will be to verify/correct every sentence in the English version against the German--a fairly lengthy process. It could be anywhere from one to two years from the time we end the translation of the Contact Reports, but it all depends on the resources applied to the tasks. Salome, Marc | ||
Steve M. |
Thank you Marc, I,m sure I speak for many > I can't wait to read all this !!!! What is the best way to send a little help $ for resources to help get all these things done ? Salome, Steve M. | ||
LarryDriscoll |
Dear Inger Just today I Added a Message at "Planet Earth, Misc, Mars" in response to comments expressed at that part of the forum that you might review also within context to a previous message by me at the same location mostly in regard to remnant extraterrestrial structures on Mars as described in Billy's book, "Aus den Tiefen des Weltenraums... Kontakte mit den Plejadiern/Plejaren" book. | ||
Marc Juliano |
Hi Steve, Let me qualify your last post with this: FIGU does not have a donations program that I know of. However, in light of the fact that there's a considerable lack of English text available (and the public outcry for them increased ), a group of people (3 passive members and one Core Group member) started the FIGU-OCT system of getting Billy's/FIGU's books translated into English. This is described in more detail elsewhere in this Forum. This program accepts voluntary donations to an account held by FIGU-Los Angeles Study Group in order to bring the finished translations to press in a more reasonable timeframe. So, if you want to know more, please e-mail me and I'll be glad to fill you in. Regards, Marc | ||
Steve M. |
I would just like to state that FIGU has NEVER asked for donations/ money of anykind , in anyway. They don't have membership drives to drum up more members & money. I would like to point out that FIGU is a rare exception in this way. My inquiry above is legitimately & simply my own curiousity on how I may help with what I consider to be a very worthwhile endeavor. Kindest regards, Steve M. | ||
Jean Pierre Lagasse |
Hi all, It took me a LOT of involvement (letters, emails etc. & many months) before I figured out the following: The FIGU/"Meier info" certainly does not have any active (missionary work) donation programs etc. However, there are several projects in dire need of finanacing etc. These are simply not publicized etc. in any way which we are used to. One of these "is/was" the "Russian aid" program, another is "The translation program" as mentioned above. Another which "made me smile" *S* was the "grounds maintenance" fee for passive members! (I really wish I could do this...!!) FIGU people aren't particularly financially oriented, eh? This is only one of the many reasons I frequent this board so much. Love & Life forever... JP | ||
Norm Member Post Number: 576 Registered: 02-2000 |
CAUGHT!: NASA STUDYING MARS FACE ON THE SLY! Earlier this spring, amateur researcher Chuck Thompson revealed he'd uncovered a treasure trove of unpublicized NASA Mars surface photos carefully squirreled away in an obscure file on the massive USGS web site. Thompson used entirely legal search methods. Among the gems he found were two recent but never announced photographs of the Face at Cydonia labeled: April-'03. Both images are high-quality overhead shots and provide damning proof of NASA's efforts to investigate the Cydonia region behind the public's back -- something they explicitly promised they'd never do. Click link for the rest. http://www.100megsfree4.com/farshores/bdashi.htm | ||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 371 Registered: 07-2000 |
Hi Norm, Are these images available for viewing? I did a little searching for them, but couldn't find anything. Scott | ||
Norm Member Post Number: 577 Registered: 02-2000 |
I couldn't find it either, email the author of article. I emailed it to Hoagland, I hope to hear what says. | ||
Savio Member Post Number: 421 Registered: 07-2000 |
Hi Norm Thanks for the information Those photos are here: http://www.lunaranomalies.com/colors.htm It seems Mars is pink rather than red Regards Savio | ||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 372 Registered: 07-2000 |
Hi Savio, Are you referring to the images of the Cydonia area? From the short article Norm posted it seems to say the images discovered were the "Face" which was initially revealed in 1976. I checked the address you gave, but couldn't really find anything related to Norm's post. Perhaps I didn't look far enough? Thanks Scott | ||
Savio Member Post Number: 423 Registered: 07-2000 |
Hi Scott Sorry, I made a mistake  I was referring to the possible cheats of NASA that she changed the color of the Mars photos. There may be a lot of hidden agendas, hence it is not a strange thing regarding the photos of the Cydonia area. Me too, cannot find the mentioned Cydonia photos. Regards Savio | ||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 373 Registered: 07-2000 |
Hi Savio, I wonder if this Mr. Thompson has shown anyone these images he claims to have found? There is no doubt in my mind between Norms information and the information you posted that NASA has manipulated the public as well as the images they have obtained or possibly created. You know, after looking at the Mars photos could the possibility exist that the United States did not actually send a probe to Mars and make a successful landing? Could those photos indeed be taken in Arizona or some other place as was suggested? If, according to the Plejarens, Apollo 11 was hoaxed, could this again be the case with the Mars Landers? This may be a good question to ask Billy in the next round of questions. Salome Scott | ||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 457 Registered: 07-2000 |
Hello, Yesterday I visited the Nasa Ames Research Center which was having an open house about the recent Mars Landing. There were various presentations about the current mission and a few mock up models similar to what is being used on the surface of Mars. The image below was a small battery operated device, which was able, to navigate by itself in a small artificial Martian landscape. This device was able to move around and when it came upon an obstacle in its path it would survey the area looking for an alternate route. There was a large video display which showed what the rover was seeing within what seemed to be an almost 360 degree view. The person doing the presentation said that the real rover receives data from JPL (Jet Propulsion Libratory), which directs it to different locations, which the scientists want to examine. If the rover is directed to a rock it will then take a picture with an infrared flash (looked like a small black light) and then exam the image for any signs of bacteria etc. This image is then transmitted back to JPL for further processing. I hope this will eventually lead us into the future where the colonization of Mars becomes a reality and we can then discover some of our real past…….. Salome Scott  | ||
Jay Member Post Number: 248 Registered: 01-2002 |
Scott, Hopefully if we can sustain ourselves long enough up there to be able colonize and find remnants of our past would be excellent. I also echo your thoughts but at the same time, we will need a way to be able to sustain our life up there to really do the real digging Saalome and BE WELL to ALL
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Markc Member Post Number: 118 Registered: 06-2000 |
Here are some real nice enlargements of some "rocks" in the initial Spirit rover photos . http://www.enterprisemission.com/spirit2.htm http://www.enterprisemission.com/spirit.htm Click on photo to enlarge . Mark Campbell | ||
Phaethonsfire Member Post Number: 52 Registered: 01-2004 |
News about Mars! 3/2/2004 WASHINGTON (March 2) -- Mars rover Opportunity has found evidence that the Red Planet was once wet enough for life to exist there, but the robot has not found any direct traces of living organisms, NASA scientists announced Tuesday. ''Opportunity has landed in an area of Mars where liquid water once drenched the surface,'' said Edward Weiler, associate NASA administrator for space science, at a news conference. ''This area would have been a good, habitable environment.'' A study of a fine, layered rock by the rover detected evidence of sulfates and other minerals that form in the presence of water. The finding suggests that if there had been life present when the rocks were formed, then the living conditions could have permitted an organism to flourish. The study, however, has found no direct evidence of life. Found on AOL Jacob Saalome gam naan ben uurda, gan njjber asaala hesporoona! | ||
Jay Member Post Number: 256 Registered: 01-2002 |
Jacob, Yes this is also in the JPL NASA Website as well. No organism are found but we all know from our friends The Plejarens, we will eventually come across many things in our future explorations there. This is just the small step we needed in order to start a series of wordly break downs of how we think and see ourselves in the scheme of things. Saalome and BE WELL to ALL
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Hunter Member Post Number: 14 Registered: 03-2004 |
Hello all, I've scanned the archives on this topic, but I was wondering if the structures on Mars were built by our ancestors(I know they were there for some time) or was it another more ancient civilization? Hoagland was asserting at one point (and still may be) that there was/is a feline/faunal component to the face. Any truth to the involvement of an advanced faunal lifeform in the construction of the face and pyramids? Namaste, Hunter | ||
Jukdo Member Post Number: 10 Registered: 05-2004 |
In 1997 on official site NASA http://mpfwww.jpl.nasa.gov/MPF/ were published photography's for the first time, received from Mars Pathfinder, landed on the surface of Mars 4 July 1997.  Increased Resolution and changed Contrast…  | ||
Cpl Member Post Number: 6 Registered: 08-2004 |
NASA will never reveal anything of the previous life forms or culture on Mars, or alien life forms or spacecraft from anywhere else. It cannot. Which is, non doubt, why it hasn't. As Richard Hoagland ponited out, NASA works under contract, and it's contract was written under supervision of the Brookings Institute which had specifically written into NASA's contract that it will not disclose knowledge of any alien life form, alien artifact or technology, or evidence of any alien culture to the public. It is probably not an exageration to say BI is literally afraid of any such knowledge coming out into the public domain. NASA cannot inform us of what it knows about aliens, alien spacecraft, or alien civilizations; and neither can any government that is advised by these think tanks -- that's just about all earth governments -- until NASA's contract is rewritten and the above mentioned clause deleted from it, or until the think tanks overcome their fear. | ||
Memo00 Member Post Number: 88 Registered: 03-2004 |
soon or late they will China and the Europeans are going to Mars too... day by day more and more scientists accept the idea that microscopic life still exist in Mars, that in the past there were huge oceans, etc i thought this year they would tell the truth, maybe the next. . . | ||
Mhurley Member Post Number: 72 Registered: 04-2003 |
I disagree CPL, I think NASA would announce something as they are constantly trying to attract more funding from Congress. Matt | ||
Norm Member Post Number: 669 Registered: 02-2000 |
Matt, I hope you are kidding. If your not there's plenty of evidence otherwise. http://www.enterprisemission.com/ | ||
Mhurley Member Post Number: 73 Registered: 04-2003 |
Norm, for balance look up Hoagland in this link http://www.ufowatchdog.com/hall1.html The guy is a fruitcake | ||
Norm Member Post Number: 670 Registered: 02-2000 |
Matt, You believe a site like that rips Jamie Maussan, WENDELL STEVENS & JIM DILETTOSO Meier supporters. Steven Greer, LINDA MOULTON HOWE? Thats just another debunker site that claims that all UFOs are fake. | ||
Mhurley Member Post Number: 74 Registered: 04-2003 |
Norm, I didn't say I supported the rest of the Watchdog site. Is there anything there about Hoagland that you disagree with? | ||
Cpl Member Post Number: 10 Registered: 08-2004 |
There is nothing in NASA's contract about not announcing microscopic life, or lifeforms somewhat bigger than that. I expect them to announce something along those lines before long. I also think there are people in NASA who would like to talk about what they have seen and have on record regarding alien culture/artifacts/lifeforms; but it is written in their contract that they cannot mention it. Hoagland has shown the document and made it a matter of public record. I know he's written some flakey stuff as well as some very good stuff. No one's all flakey or all genius. Don't take his word for it. Check NASA's contract. It is available in certain publications. You can see it on one of Hoagland's videos, I believe. I think that's where I saw it. It's not a secret document. It's a matter of public record. There is no way NASA can break its contract to think tanks like The Brookings Institute. They obviously take this matter very seriously. If you cannot accept the reality of their contract why not write NASA and ask them, "If you saw alien craft would you announce it, or is there something in your contract advising you against announcing it." This might not necesssarily prove anything but the answer might prove interesting. | ||
Norm Member Post Number: 671 Registered: 02-2000 |
Matt, I don't like a site that snipea at people. If they can make the others look bad then whats that tell you about the site. Hoagland has admitted to past mistakes. Brooking is a Think Tank. Nasa can take or leave it. They don't have to follow their recommendations. | ||
Cpl Member Post Number: 11 Registered: 08-2004 |
"Brooking is a Think Tank. Nasa can take or leave it. They don't have to follow their recommendations." Norm. Hi Norm, Think tank recommendations can be taken or left, but if those recommendations are incorporated into an offcial contract like NASA's then the contract and all details within it are legally binding. NASA perhaps should never have signed that contract, but they did and so they are stuck with it until they change the contract. I'm interested actually to see what will happen now that private enterprise has got into space and will be doing so increasingly over the coming decades. It is now estimated by many in that field that private trips to space will be affordable for the general public (a few thousand $ per trip) around 2017. Even Branson on Sep. 27 announced his Virgini group is planning on putting tourists in space. His new company will be called Virgin Galactic. Seems his start-off prices will be around $190,000 and will greatly reduce as more spacecraft are built and come into operation. Currently, SpaceDev, the winning company in the space tourism game, has signed a memorandum with NASA concerned with designing and building new piloted small launch vehicles and test platforms. They also have a contract with the US Missile Defense Agency researching microsatellites. Whether the up-and-coming space tourism companies end up beholden to similar agreements/contracts that NASA is, time will tell. But obviously space tourists are going to see things flying around outside their hotel windows at times. It may well prove next to impossible to keep the lid on that. The truth will eventually out on mass, but I'm not looking for the truth on extraterrestrial craft/beings or culture coming from NASA any time soon. This could be yet another reason why it was necessary for Billy to present the evidence of space craft (plus the teachings, of course). Why would he need to present photographs if NASA could? They can't because it's written specifically into their contract, which may have made it necessary for someone like Billy to get the truth out. Best, cpl | ||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 606 Registered: 07-2000 |
Hello, In 2003 the European Space Agency launched the Mars Express. Shortly after its rendezvous with Mars it started sending back images of the Martian Landscape. As I was studying these images, one image caught my eye. It appeared to me more then just a natural formation, but rather something more in line with the structures displayed in the Cydonia region. Any comments? Salome Scott  | ||
Norm Member Post Number: 695 Registered: 02-2000 |
Scott, Was that the Mission that didn't work after it landed? Just before the NASA Mars rovers landed a few months later. | ||
Scott Moderator Post Number: 609 Registered: 07-2000 |
Hi Norm, Yes, I think your correct. | ||
Cpl Member Post Number: 71 Registered: 08-2004 |
Hi scott, Have you asked Richard Hoagland his opinion on this photgraph? The shading on the left looks strange. Added on? Best, | ||
Jay_q Member Post Number: 47 Registered: 01-2005 |
Jukdo, Nice photo but it could just be random blurry pixels. It's hard to tell. Although If you research ufo's in space, theres alot of material that seems to support them nonetheless. I really hope people join the Disclosure Project to give it some steam but i guess it won't succeed according to billy's prophecy's unless "our will" changes it. | ||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 25 Registered: 07-2005 |
Dear forum members In the website the enterprise mission by richard hoagland there is also an extensive coverage of what is supposedly an artificial moon orbiting around saturn that is stated as having abnormal and artificial features. It's worth a look for it has references to a movie Star Wars by george lucas. peace be with you all |
