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Newinitiation
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Post Number: 2628
Registered: 07-2005
Posted on Friday, September 03, 2021 - 11:31 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Very good points that you've raised Chris.
I think that the mass herd mentality still applies in this 21st century meaning that majority of the masses and our false leaders are followers and not lead'ers.
Our pseudo leaders are like gangsters and mafia where they need to be directed from the top down and like some sort of blood oath they are there for life, can't get out and must follow the status quo even against their better judgement.
The sheepish masses are also afflicted with the same condition as our false leaders in that most of them are not self driven but must go with the grain and have to be lead from the outside.
So the few who are aware of the overpopulation issue must create a stink and grab the news headlines in order to slowly educate the masses as a lot of people do understand the issue but not all but hardly anyone outside of FIGU circle does anything about it because they just don't actually understand how serious it really is because it doesn't impact them directly enough to warrant immediate attention and action.
So option 4 may also be on the table.
That is do nothing and let the divided masses fight among themselves and eventually kill each other over scarce resources.
Do nothing yet pull the levers and set the stage for the inevitable as in due time when the world economy collapses, supply chain disrupted, food shortages occur, natural diasters wreak havoc, law and order disintegrated and basically the 'Walking Dead' scenario happens people will eliminate each other out of scarcity, desperation and need.

Matt lee
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Matthew
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Posted on Friday, September 03, 2021 - 03:05 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The following from the director of Population Matters shows the effect of religion on population figures, and includes news from Colombia, which the director says is good, but cynism tells me it's driven by economics only: In 2019, the mortality rate in Colombia for women was at 77.08 per 1,000 female adults, while the mortality rate for men was at 149.88 per 1,000: Almost twice that of women.

Economic forces determine most of what goes on in the world and reducing population humanely is not something those are interested in either being researched, campaigned around, much less implemented. Much easier to kill off people surreptitiously is what these forces would think, and so that the world remains ignorant about the topic and they can continue to control us.


"POPULATION MATTERS

Director's message

The latest atrocity from Afghanistan, with extremists murdering over 100 people as they desperately sought to get on the last flights out of Kabul and escape Taliban rule, weighs heavy on the heart.

People’s desperation, given the Taliban’s previous regime of public executions, stonings, and abuse of women’s rights in particular, was understandable. Evidenced in the data: during 1996-2001 Afghanistan’s Total Fertility Rate (average number of children per woman) reached a 40-year high of 7.6. In the Taliban’s absence, it fell to just over 4. That dramatic downward curve reflects an increase in contraceptive use from less than 5% of all women under the Taliban to over 20% currently, as well as in the number of girls in school and women in government.

It’s hard not to see all that as blown away by the bombers. But those statistics show how quickly new seeds can take root, for people to seize opportunities, and for the darkness to be dispelled. Yes, the lights are dimming in Afghanistan, but they’re burning brightly in Colombia, where PM’s latest Empower to Plan partner, Women for Conservation, is enabling rural women and girls to take control of their own fertility, choose how many children to have or not, and proactively protect their local environment, natural resources and wildlife.

PM is researching similar partners in Afghanistan. For now, we can only support their efforts at a distance. Colombia’s example offers encouragement, having overcome decades of hostility to deliver benefits to people and planet.

- Robin Maynard, Director, Population Matters
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Schantz
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Post Number: 279
Registered: 03-2007
Posted on Saturday, September 04, 2021 - 12:44 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The revolution will not be televised. It will not be public.

The deep state/dark order knows that adding fuel to the fire is self detructive. Don't believe what you see on tv and read in the media.

Trust your gut and fight like hell, but staying alive is more important for your evolution than dying for some damn flag waving in the air.

What will be televised and promoted in all the media outlets is a calculated distraction from the real threat to their agenda. The undeniable soon to be exposed truth.
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Scott
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Posted on Saturday, September 04, 2021 - 06:35 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Shantz,

I don't know if "trusting your gut" can be applicable in all cases:

http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Seven_Principles_for_the_Aspiring_One

but I agree, the undeniable truth will eventually be exposed.
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Schantz
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Post Number: 280
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Posted on Saturday, September 04, 2021 - 11:59 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Will future generations be discussing the great depopulation like I grew up listening to my grandparents about the great depression?

#the great manipulation
#the great vaccination
#the great salvationation
#the great condemnation
#the great indoctrination
#the great desructionation
#the great sciencenation
#the great militaryanation
#the great falsificationation
#the great religiousnation
#the great medianation
#the great medicatednation
#the great stagnation
#the great mandatenation
#the great misinformationnation
#the great antilogosnation
#the great injectionation
#the great invasionoftruthnation
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Eddie
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Posted on Sunday, September 05, 2021 - 12:28 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Kenneth, you hit the nail on the head, I meant human egg and sperm cells (23 chromosomes). (English is not my mother tongue).
For example, I doubt very much that egg and sperm banks test their donors for SARS-CoV-2 vaccination and/or whether the donor has been or is infected with Corvid-19.
So, if it turns out that chromosomes and/or genetic make-up are contaminated or modified as a result of either vaccination or Corvid-19, then any mutations are inherited by any children who may survive, thus passing on the problem or a bigger problem to future generations. I'm afraid the P's are again proven right on that point too.
However, should that be the case, it should be possible even for health authorities and politicians to realize to close all egg and sperm banks immediately as both their egg and sperm straws and all their storage tanks would then be contaminated. That would probably limit population growth by some %.

Matcha/Chris and others, I totally agree, super topics you unfold, and with the madness that seems to be unfolding, both points 3 and 2 (and Matt's point 4) can be unfolded simultaneously but perhaps differentiated between the political stance but also economic capability of different countries. As Matthew also points out, economics may well be a particularly weighty factor.
The debt of global non-financial corporations is at the time of writing in the region of $81tn (yes, 18 zeros behind) which is equivalent to about 101% of world GDP, so every asset on the planet that is included in GDP is currently over 100% leveraged. If the population is reduced via a global birth freeze, for example, there will be fewer people to pay the debt, especially as the interest rate on the debt exceeds the ability of many countries to repay loans, and at the same time more and more means of payment are being printed (digitally entered) - so as a politician and central banker you are currently economically paralysed, so I doubt very much that we will see political visions that go in the direction of introducing a birth freeze, even if it is the only right thing to do. Add to that Billy's prediction of up to 500 million deaths (about 5 years net increase in new citizens) as a result of SarS-CoV-2 and the incompetence of politicians, and by default there will be fewer to pay off the debt.

IMO this has "cleverly" placed the individual in a tricky position, because the fewer people there are to pay the debt the more expensive it will be per citizen, both now and in the future. This quickly brings up some of the issues Billy has mentioned about populations being subjected to further horrendous taxes and being stripped of assets, ultimately making it easier to write the story and control lies and thus large populations.

Salome
Eddie
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Schantz
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Post Number: 289
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Posted on Wednesday, September 08, 2021 - 10:26 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I think to bring our current overpopulation disaster under control, since no one will dare touch the 7 year birth limit, our leaders and authorities would do the following.

1. Downplay the pandemic from the beginning. Continue to do so with the new variants.

2. Promote the wearing of masks and not respirators.

3. Tell the vaccinated they are safe.

4. Create civil and global unrest.

5. Promotes lies about everything that is truthful and protective.
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Newinitiation
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Posted on Friday, September 10, 2021 - 12:55 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Schantz they are actually doing exactly that and more.
Its called sabotage and contradiction.
Confuse the s*** out of the masses and let them rip each other apart along many divides.

Matt lee
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Schantz
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Posted on Tuesday, September 14, 2021 - 12:50 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The big picture and the big power grab to control the population and keep control over the ever expanding population as I see it. There are so many facets to each heading it cannot be discussed here.

1. Reduce the population

2. Reduce small businesses

3. Reduce free thinking

4. Reduce truthful information

5. Reduce resistance

6. Increase division

7. Increase disinformation

8. Increase vaccines

9. Increase civil war

10. Increase global conflict

In my view from reading the contact reports, as bad and terrible which the covid pandemic is, it's basically a Trojan horse for all things evil to come to fruition.

Either I'm dead wrong, which seems to be the case here on this forum, or I'm stupidly speaking out loud which is dangerous to my well being.

Another view I have is that the smart ones are keeping quiet about such things. To protect their longevity and evolution. I get both points of view.

I keep questioning myself about being a member here, not knowing if I'm doing more harm than good.

Obviously the speaking out is overriding my ability to remain silent and go with the flow.

I hope I'm wrong and will look back at my posts in the future as being foolish.

If I was right, I will be glad I spoke about the wrong that was happening when I was able to speak.
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Schantz
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Posted on Tuesday, September 21, 2021 - 08:25 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

With all the refugees from Afganistan and the southern border being brought into the USA, I get the feeling that one of the reasons is because they are being used as test subjects.

They have men, women, pregnant women, children and the elderly. Many with no traceable past, or anyone to know what happened to them.
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Schantz
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Posted on Thursday, September 30, 2021 - 01:40 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dr. Joseph Mercola today released a 10 page PDF which I was able to locate on Gab.

He explains very well what the plan is, for the entire globe. That plan is underway if you haven't noticed.

Scary times we live in.
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Schantz
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Posted on Wednesday, October 06, 2021 - 01:46 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The WHO announced today thier next target.

African children.
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Scott
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Posted on Wednesday, October 06, 2021 - 04:52 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'm sure the Medicine has been color coded....
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Norm
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Posted on Thursday, November 25, 2021 - 09:28 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Eco-fascist seems to be the new term used for some people recommending Population Control. So be sure not to blame the 3rd world when debating overpop with anyone.

Eco-fascism is a theory which sees overpopulation and immigration blamed for the effects of the climate crisis. The burden of blame is often placed on black, brown and marginalised communities, the very people who have been least responsible for overconsumption and mass industrialisation.
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Getknowledge
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Posted on Thursday, December 09, 2021 - 09:31 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Truly, the planet can only sustain 500 million but to solely blame the 3rd world for climate change is false. The wealthy 13% consumes 80% of world resources and produce most waste and contribute most to climate change. If the pie was equally divided all would become fourth world which the US doesn't allow.
Tien
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Scott
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Post Number: 3611
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Posted on Sunday, April 03, 2022 - 08:36 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

A New Book From FIGU on Overpopulation
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Kenneth
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Posted on Friday, May 06, 2022 - 02:13 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Can we say Overpopulation, Chile 1960 top photo. Bottom photo, present day, same location.



Kenneth
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Hendrikus1970
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Post Number: 127
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Posted on Friday, May 06, 2022 - 10:55 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

you know that the books are to expensive for most people right ? why doesnt figu make digital books ? much cheaper and far more accessible for us stuppid earth humans
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Matcha
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Posted on Friday, May 06, 2022 - 11:24 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hendrikus, I think the main reason is that these books need to survive the next drastic 200 and challenging 500 years. PDFs, and even paperbacks, will probably blow away in the turbulent winds. PDFs are good for lectures and handouts but a good library they do not make. Also, these books. IMO, need reading like a meditation and that is best done in hardback.
Chris

Peace in wisdom be on Earth and among all creatures.
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Hendrikus1970
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Posted on Saturday, May 07, 2022 - 12:51 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

well if nuclear war starts what books will be left then ? plus why not give both options so that more people can buy because its cheaper,and thus more people will wake up.
btw remember when the nazis burned al books that where not in their way of thinking? look at the western o ukraine nazis now,nothing changes for at least 800 years and understandeble with this way of working
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Hendrikus1970
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Posted on Saturday, May 07, 2022 - 04:31 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

perdoname,i placed wrong song in other reply but cant change it.
its a good song also but not what i wanted to show.
can you moderators please change the link to this amazing text and song .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtujUCURgtM

Hello,
At this time FIGU prefers links to FIGU Websites only.
Thanks very much
Scott-Moderator


(Message edited by scott on May 07, 2022)
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Hendrikus1970
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Posted on Saturday, May 07, 2022 - 06:39 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Scott,ok thank you,and thank you also for all the years of moderating and the amazing amount of info you and your figu team provided me.
Stay safe you all and greetings and much love from me
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Stardustwilly
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Posted on Saturday, May 07, 2022 - 06:43 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

With all the vast resources in humans and technology, why not print a few books? With our individual short life spans. The motivation to learn German, a pay out for a library of books that most can't live long enough to read through, it they find this info later in life. They have to be given out over time over the centuries, again and again.

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