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Tat_tvam_asi
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Post Number: 1882
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| | Posted on Friday, February 25, 2022 - 02:53 pm: | 
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Long Skulls and Ebraya
- When did the Long Skulls first arrive on our planet?
- Relationship Long Skulls and Ebraya
- The Creation of a ‘Mixed Race” by Avram (Abraham
Ptaah in CR 721: www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_721
(1) Since when do Long Skulls Circle Our Planet
We know that Billy mentioned that they may have a right to stay on our planet because they have been on our planet for a long time.
In CR 721:39 Ptaah tells us that they arrived on our planet some 389,000 years ago
(2) 13,500 years ago (ca. 11,400 BCE): Some Plejaren Migrants Arrive on a Secret Mission
39. When then about 13,500 years ago the up to then last Plejaren community of immigrants came to Earth, then this happened in a completely secret form, namely because since the time of 389,000 years earlier other extraterrestrials had come to the Earth in the meantime and had settled down far and wide on all continents, above all the long-skulled ones.
NB 13,500 years ago was the time of Henoch I (further details see my next post)
www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Henoch
See as well Pat's Genealogy Map
ww.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Nokodemion
(2) The Long Skulls Settle in Egypt and Subjugate the Ebraya
It seems the hostile relationship between Ebraya and Egypt dates back into pre-biblical times:
40. In ancient Egypt in particular, they rose to positions of power, waged wars and subjugated tribes of peoples, such as those who called themselves 'Ebraya'.
(3) Avram a Descendant of Plejaren Mission 13,500 Years Ago Mixes with Ebraya To Create a New Race
(Jewish Tradition: Avraham Avinu – Our Father Abraham)
41. It was these who, in later times, under the leadership of a Negrid Plejaren descendant called 'Avian' (note meaning of name: 'He who gives refuge') – who was, however, called 'Avrahm' by the 'Ebraya' – had joined forces about 4,500 years ago with the still few distant descendants of the ancient Plejaren immigrants who appeared about 13,500 years ago and also begat many descendants.
42.From these descendants begotten between Plejaren descendants and the 'Ebraya', a sixfold lineage of termination then emerged, namely from the reincarnation line of Nokodemion, whose spirit-form reincarnated several times and in rapid succession among the 'Ebraya'. |
Tat_tvam_asi
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Post Number: 1883
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| | Posted on Friday, February 25, 2022 - 03:14 pm: |
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The time of Henoch I, 13,500 years ago (ca. 11,400 BCE) may have been the time of our previous incarnation ...
Source: www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_650
Billy:
Where do the 144,000 spirit forms enliven today's people, or where do the associated personalities live today who came to Earth about 13,500 years ago? And my question only refers to these 144,000, but not to others of the same number.
Ptaah
4. We have detailed records of this, which lead back to the prophet Henok and which also say exactly what you just said.
5. The little more than 144,000 spirit forms of the then distant descendants from Nokodemion peoples, who immigrated to Earth about 13,500 years ago, exist at present partly in living personalities, which are scattered all over Earth practically in all peoples, whereby they usually live their lives individually.
6. These new personalities have come together in modern times – whose primeval ancestors came to Earth from foreign worlds at an early age – to form small groups from the 144,000 or so Nokodemion peoples, as a result of the missionary spread emanating from you and the FIGU.
German Original
Billy
Was mich nun aber interessiert ist: Wo beleben denn die 144 000 Geistformen die heutigen Menschen resp. wo leben die damit verbundenen Persönlichkeiten heute, die vor rund 13500 Jahren zur Erde kamen?
Ptaah
4. Darüber haben wir ausführliche Aufzeichnungen, die auf den Propheten Henok zurückführen und die exakt auch das aussagen, was du eben gesagt hast.
5. Die wenig mehr als 144 000 Geistformen der damaligen fernen Nachkommen aus Nokodemion-Völkern, die vor rund 13 500 Jahren auf die Erde einwanderten, existieren zur Zeit teilweise in lebenden Persönlichkeiten, die auf der ganzen Erde praktisch in allen Völkern verstreut sind, wobei sie in der Regel einzeln ihre Leben fristen.
6. Es existieren in heutiger Zeit auch wenige kleine Gruppierungen, die jedoch wirklich sehr gering sind und die nur wenige Personen umfassen und die sich mit der ‹Lehre der Wahrheit, Lehre des Geistes, Lehre des Lebens› befassen.
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Kenneth
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Post Number: 1424
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| | Posted on Friday, February 25, 2022 - 09:51 pm: |
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Excellent work Bill,
This really makes one think. It also explains a lot regarding those involved in the Teaching and why they (we) are located all over the World.
Earthlings that are geologist’s, paleontologist’s, Archaeologist’s, etc., have no clue, unless they are reading Billy’s material. They still have not figured out the truth about Atlantis major and minor including Mu. Most of the history books that I studied in high school; the majority of that information is wrong.
Astrophysicist Neil deGrasse Tyson recently stated in one of his You-Tube videos that God made the entire universe. No mention of Creation whatsoever.
Kenneth |
Tat_tvam_asi
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Post Number: 1886
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| | Posted on Sunday, February 27, 2022 - 02:59 pm: |
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This is exactly what I thought, too, Kenneth.
Reading these passages answered many questions that I had during my late teens.
http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/863/2119.html#POST92403
Then there was this unknown certainty that I was ‘rather new’ here, in this somewhat strange world.
http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/14/14199.html#POST76965
(I felt the people around me had 'more experience' because they 'had been here more often')
Of course, my rational mind quickly dismissed all these sentiments as a puberty fantasy. But later in life I felt that this intuition may, in fact, access a much finer (unconscious?) knowledge which may not be valued much as the knowledge we learn through evaluating what our senses tell us.
"Intuition is more important to discovery than logic". Jules Henri Poincaré ('world's last universalist') |
Tat_tvam_asi
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Post Number: 1887
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| | Posted on Sunday, February 27, 2022 - 03:33 pm: |
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NB The last sentence should read:
But later in life I realized that this intuition may, in fact, access a much finer (unconscious?) knowledge that is much more accurate than the knowledge derived from experiences of the senses ('empiricism') alone. |
Kenneth
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| | Posted on Sunday, February 27, 2022 - 11:14 pm: |
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For what it is worth, Astrophysicist Neil deGrasse Tyson has been sent the Billy Meier material by many different folks. To my knowledge, there was no response.
I now see Neil in much the same light as with MUFON and other so called Ancient Earth ologist’s, (Geo, paleont & archae).
He is outgoing and appears to be a fun person that has a $500,000 annual salary while receiving $25,000 per 17-minutes of his talk, in addition to another $1,235 to cover the projected taxes that Tyson will owe for that fee and yet another $1,500 to cover travel and hotel costs.
Unfortunately, it appears that Tyson is in it for the money and fame rather than the truth…
I tried contacting Mr. Tyson again, but received this response. Note: Until further notice, Hayden will no longer be accepting mail (letters and packages) of any kind. And replies to mail sent previously during and before COVID will be delayed indefinitely.
Kenneth |
Adxok
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| | Posted on Tuesday, March 15, 2022 - 12:34 pm: |
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Neil de G. T. is a joke. |
Kiwiseeker
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Post Number: 223
Registered: 08-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 13, 2022 - 01:15 am: |
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These are questions which I have been pondering. When did the various space travellers start travelling in hyperspace? Such as the Lyra-Vegans of 389,000 years ago, the Syrian refugees fleeing to Mars & Malona & the Lyra-Vegans travelling to the Sirius region. If limited by the speed of light, these journeys would be incredibly long; if so, what motivation kept them going? Another matter - approx. what period of time do the spirit-forms spend in the spirit levels Arahat Athersata to Petale? This is somewhere on my HDD, but I can't find it; my memory tells me about 2.1 billion years. Many thanks to you if you can help. |
Hugo
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Post Number: 1107
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| | Posted on Friday, April 29, 2022 - 12:25 am: |
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Hi Kiwiseeker,
This is likely not much help but I recall in contact report 251 it said the Syrian refugees (some of us) resorted to cannibalism to stay alive in the ships. It must have been a slow/long trip. |
Kenneth
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Post Number: 1447
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| | Posted on Friday, April 29, 2022 - 07:44 am: |
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You are correct Hugo.
Contact Report 251:
“The exodus of the genetically-manipulated refugees from the Sirius regions took place over an extended period of many thousands of years, and they were constantly hounded by their pursuers until they finally found an appropriate hideaway in the SOL system, far from their pursuers' reach and sight. A similar fate awaited the other two refugee groups who settled beyond in the galaxy. Indeed, both refugee groups experienced harassment during their many years of flight, which most of them spent in spaceships as they travelled through the galaxy. During their travels revolutions and power struggles broke out and, as a consequence, the genetically-manipulated peoples lost not only all of their previously accumulated knowledge, but also the evidence of their ancestral heritage. Appalling dramas befell them and led to cannibalism throughout all of their spaceships. As a result, the ancestral indications of the genetically-manipulated peoples, the future terrestrial humans, was lost. This knowledge consisted also of information regarding the Creational-natural laws and directives, among other things. Great confusion ensued that led to further problems in face of the knowledge about the dangers of their pursuit; this knowledge was passed down from one generation to the next…”
www.futureofmankind.co.uk must be down for repair, “refused to connect.”
Kenneth |
Matcha
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Post Number: 47
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| | Posted on Friday, April 29, 2022 - 02:55 pm: |
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FoM is working fine now.
Chris
Peace in wisdom be on Earth and among all creatures.
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Kiwiseeker
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Post Number: 224
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| | Posted on Thursday, May 12, 2022 - 01:06 am: |
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Thank you Hugo & Kenneth for your info re the GM refugees.An incredible journey over a number of generations. Did I have the time periods for the evolution of the spirit form about right? |
Maryam
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| | Posted on Friday, October 28, 2022 - 12:48 pm: |
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I was in pondering of a question I found appropriate for the forum section Aging, Aggressive Genes & Human Health or perhaps Ape derived from man, but these two threads appear to be closed to new posts, thus I hope it is acceptable to ask the question here.
I was curious as to the origin of the Negative Rhesus Factor within the human blood group system, which encompasses approximately 15% of the global population, as well as whether a correlation has been found by Mr. Meier or the Plejaren between Rh- Blood and Auto-Immunol Diseases and Disorders?
Maryam
"Carpe Diem...Seize the Day"
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Tat_tvam_asi
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Post Number: 1982
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| | Posted on Friday, November 11, 2022 - 07:37 pm: |
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The Megalithic Structures on Terceira Island / Azores
Google for Was the Azores home to an ancient civilization BBC REEL
The short BBC documentary reminds me somewhat of the description of the highest mountains of Atlantis in Otto Muck's book "The Secret of Atlantis":
His book's ‘Mount Atlas’ chapter tells us that the present-day Mt. Atlas in North Africa was “not called so until a very late day. According to Strabo (Greek historian/geographer born 64 B.C.) the natives called it “Dyris”, according to Pliny the Elder (23/24 AD – 79AD) its name was “Doran”.
From this he concludes that their name ("Atlas Mountains") must have occurred long after these historians. This is as well evident in the name of the Atlantic Ocean which the Greeks (e.g. Herodotus in his “Histories” (450 BC)) called ‘Atlantis Thalassa’ = Sea of Atlas” (1)
Now if there is a “Sea of Atlas” there is as well an “Island of Atlas”. A map of this island was found by A. Kircher (German Jesuit priest) in 1665: During a search of the Vatican Library, he found a well-preserved map with the caption “a map of the island of Atlantis originally made in Egypt after Plato’s description” which may suggest that it was drawn from a document that was part of the Library of Alexandria (2) and was later brought to Rome from Egypt. A. Kircher copied it and added the newly discovered continent of South America (3)
“A. Kircher correctly concluded that the 9 islands of the Azores are in fact the peaks of the highest mountains in what was once the island of Atlantis.
OM points out that the highest mountain (name then ‘Atlas’ - today Pico Alto = High Summit, today’s height 2,320 m) in the center of the island is volcanic.
So far one may accept OM’s findings. We can add what we know from Semjase that Atlant settled in what was an island west of Spain/Portugal and it would make sense that the island, its highest mountain and the ocean surrounding it were named after Atlant.
But now comes the part which may be a little far-fetched:
OM hints that the image of the Atlantis’ Mountain may have influenced today's religious buildings, i.e., buildings that had a connection with death and religious worship: The steep rise of the central part of Chinese Pagodas / Indian Temple Towers / Church Towers / Buddhist graves / Totem Poles: OM mentions that these buildings were usually built over altars which themselves were built on top of graves of saints or dead heroes (e.g. Iliad “The Burial of Patroclus”), the burning of incense (comparable to the smoke/steam rising out of the very high volcano) – in Christian churches the use of incense announcing the presende/arrival of God), the clouds that cover the mountain top being a symbolic barrier between the world of god and man:
Were they a replication of the unforgettable image of this high mountain what greeted the mariners thousands of years ago when they sailed to the Island of the Gods in the Atlantic Ocean?
Did the mountain have a religious connotation as OM suggests?
OM: “If ever an ancient people had a reason to believe in an all powerful god it was the people of Atlantis…. We may assume that this ancient monotheism … forms part of the heritage of Atlantis.”
Maybe OM's insight may still reflect the Priest of Sais explanation to Solon (4) which Plato (a previous incarnation of O. Muck (5) was aware of.
From reading the CRs we would have to conclude that the people of Atlantis followed not any religion but that their 'god' was a leader in the Spirit teaching guiding his people somewhat similar to the philosopher-king that Plato wanted to establish in Greece and later on Sicily (6).
But maybe the Atlanteans buried their dead on a mountain (like the people in Mongolia and southern China do today)?
(1)
The Romans called it ‘Oceanus’ – today we use a combination of the Greek/Roman name 'Atlantic Ocean'.
For those interested: According to E. Casey the main island of Atlantis was called “Poseidonia” which closely resembles “Poseidon” the name of Greek God of the Sea, Storms and – you guessed it - Earthquakes.
According to O.Muck: “The island of Atlantis received its name from the high mountain that dominated it and symbolized it. Myth has endowed it with tis first king, the firstborn of Poseidon, God of the Sea, Storms and Earthquakes…”
(2)
http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/14/14199.html#POST76862
(3)
Google for “Athanasius Kircher: The Polymath who found the Map of Atlantis”
(4)
Some of the articles that mention the discussion between Solon and the Priest of Sais:
http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/14/14760.html#POST78413
http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/14/14760.html#POST78413http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/14/8838.html?1666986517
http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/14/14760.html#POST78505
http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/13/1952.html#POST79824
(5)
CR 60:104-111
https://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_060
(6)
Google for Wikipedia "Philosopher King"
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Kenneth
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Post Number: 1514
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| | Posted on Saturday, November 12, 2022 - 12:00 pm: |
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Hi Bill,
Excellent compilation of related material. Thanks for the time and energy that you put into this. I'm still reading the links. Excellent reading. The Azores is on my bucket list of place to visit.
Thanks
Kenneth |
Hugo
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| | Posted on Sunday, November 13, 2022 - 08:40 pm: |
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Hi Tat_tvam_asi,
I share the same thoughts as Kenneth there! Thanks! |
Tat_tvam_asi
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| | Posted on Monday, November 14, 2022 - 04:36 am: |
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Thank you, Kenneth.
I, too, enjoy the research ...
Salome, Bill
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Tat_tvam_asi
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| | Posted on Wednesday, November 16, 2022 - 08:38 pm: |
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Thank you, Hugo.
I, too, want to find more details.
But so far it is only the discovery of a possible 60m high (basis: 90m x 90m) underwater pyramid between the said Terceira Island and the island of Sao Miguel that comes to mind:
The Portuguese Navy calls it "oddly shaped volcanic mountains" but who knows may be the lava flew over a real pyramid?
Google for e.g.,
Azores underwater pyramid - could it be the missing link to Atlantis?
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Kenneth
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| | Posted on Thursday, November 17, 2022 - 08:00 am: |
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Well. . .
This does not look like oddly shaped volcanic mountains to me.
Kenneth |
Tat_tvam_asi
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| | Posted on Thursday, November 17, 2022 - 10:59 pm: |
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Yes, Kenneth ...
... but this may well be a photo-shopped image.
It seems to me once the Portuguese Navy participated, any investigative news reports about the pyramid stopped:
Almost all internet clips are from the time of the discovery / and the time when the Portuguese Navy started its "investigations" (2013-14). Some of the reports on the net mention that the coordinates of the pyramid were kept secret (1).
It all points to the usual government cover-up/denial of a truth that does not fit in the MSM make belief that people ought to have. Case studies proving that not Adam but Ets were here first are a great NO-NO - esp. in very religious countries ...
Just to complete the "great uncertainty": There are some other reports which claim there are other even larger pyramids in the area (2). But they, too, have not found any echo in historical research papers.
(1) That is why I think that there is no real image and the shown image is photo-shopped...
...which is as well what Graham Hancock (somewhat controversial/pseudoscientific writer) believes:
Google for
Graham Hancock Azores Submerged "pyramid" - Warning not to be duped by irresponsible photo-shopped image
(2)
Google for
Immense Underwater Pyramid In Portugal Could Be The Missing Link Of Atlantis
(Message edited by scott on November 18, 2022) |
Kenneth
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| | Posted on Friday, November 18, 2022 - 07:48 am: |
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D'oh!,… ahh Bill, for a fleeting moment I forgot that we are living in a world of illusion! Thanks for the elucidation. As we are all finding out, much of Earth’s ancient history has been falsified or ignored. We in the FIGU community have a unique opportunity for the truthful clarification in understanding past and currents events that the rest of the populace unfortunately does not have, thanks to Billy and the Plejaren.
Kenneth |
Tat_tvam_asi
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| | Posted on Thursday, December 08, 2022 - 07:37 pm: |
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Why historians and scientists regard Plato’s account of Atlantis as untrue
1. The story of Atlantis was suppressed for thousands of years because it did not fit the religious traditions of the people
a. The Greek Solon who relates the Priest of Sais account of Atlantis could not have known of any land in the midst of the (Atlantic) ocean:
The worldview of the Greeks was based on the Chaldean’s – i.e., the earth was a flat disc, its centre was Mt. Olympus in Greece, the three continents Africa , Europe and Asia were surrounded by a large river called Okeanos. Earth was the centre of Okeanos There was no land beyond that:
Google for e.g., Map of Herodotus / “The World according to Herodotus”
b. Plato tells us that Atlantis sank 9,000 years before Solon was in Egypt (around 560 BCE).
So, this event would have occurred around 9,560 BCE (1).
But Jewish traditions dated world’s creation as the year 5,508 BCE whereas Christians of the Middle Ages dated it as 5228 BCE (Chronicon of Eusebius) or (later on) around 4000 BCE (Masoretic text).
Result: For thousands of years the story of Atlantis was a “heretical” belief, because for Greeks there could not be an island beyond the shores of Okeanos and because for Jews and Christians it was an event that took place 4-5000 years before the world creation date of their religions.
2. Today, both, the Greek’s “disc shape earth view” and the "religious world creation dates", have been proven wrong and are no longer accepted. But the “story of Atlantis is a condemned heretical view” and this stigma, has stubbornly remained in many human minds.
3. Billy (Ptaah?) tells us that an untrue belief that has been kept for too long has a power of its own and will persist as if it was the truth
(I cannot find the source but it was in a more recent (2021?) CR)
This is why, even today, most people, schools and historians disregard or make a mockery of Plato’s account of Atlantis.
(1) True date / Semjase: 9498 BCE see e.g., CR 61:26-27
https://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Contact_Report_061
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