| Author | Message | ||
    Michael Horn |
There are now TV shows that purport that the U.S. never really landed on the moon. They propose that the Apollo missions were hoaxed. So, what do Billy and the Plejarans have to say about this? Michael | ||
James Roy Mizar |
As I understand there is a cover up, but it is about the structures on the moon, would they not have had to been there to get the pictures? Salome James | ||
Steve M. |
The Hoagland video "MOON/MARS CONNECTION " talks about this. Can Mr. Meire or the Plejarans confirm if there is indeed Glass or crystal structures on the side of the Moon we never see ? Glass structures on the Moon as I understand it have the strength of steel because there is no air, water or atmosphere.Hoagland seems to have compelling evidence. Is all of this true ? Regards, Steve M. | ||
Savio |
There must be something behind the scence. The big question is: why they stopped the moon landing mission and did not talk or even try again for so many years? And, it is really strange that the Russian did not try moon landing after that. It is hot that something is on the other side of the moon. Regards Savio | ||
Marc Juliano |
Hello all, Perhaps it's possible to compile a short, consolidated list of some of the recent questions in this Forum to which Billy can provide short answers in one fell swoop. I notice many questions are being asked that could be answered by Billy with a brief "Yes", "No" or "I don't know"-type answer (or a similar short phrase.) I'll ask and see if this is possible. Regards, Marc | ||
Scott B. |
Hello Recently during one of the TV sitcoms entitled "Fraiser" John Glenn the astronaut was a guest. During the show he made a statement which I have quoted: "Back in those glory days, I was very uncomfortable when they asked us to say things we didn't want to say and deny other things. Some people asked, you know, were you alone out there? We never gave the real answer, and yet we see things out there, strange things, but we know what we saw out there. And we couldn't really say anything. The bosses were really afraid of this, they were afraid of the War of the Worlds type stuff, and about panic in the streets. So we had to keep quiet. And now we only see these things in our nightmares or maybe in the movies, and some of them are pretty close to being the truth." This made add creedence to many of the stories we have heard in which many of the astronauts have indeed seen things which they were instructed not to talk about. I think Marc's idea is a good one. A single yes or no would put to rest many of the mysteries that are not readily available to us yet. Scott | ||
Steve M. |
That sounds like a great idea.Although you know what happens if the answer is "yes". The next question would come "Who built the structures there & how long have they been there. By the way it's funny you mentioned the Frasier episode. I saw that as well. I got a kick out of that. Roz & Frasier heard none of it(kind of poetic, yes). Salome Steve M. | ||
Anthony Alagna |
Hello, Speaking of astronauts encountering extraterrestrial life, have any of you seen the remarkable new video, "The Secret NASA Transmissions: The Smoking Gun?" This is about a Canadian cable TV manager who used his station satellite dishes to pick up NASA's downlinks from STS space shuttle missions over a period of almost 5 years. He has this all on VHS and has discovered two different space phenomena breaking down the tapes. Throughout his evidence, he has discovered sphere like objects, as well as another form that appears as a fast moving bolt of light. Once you know what your looking for, it is quite obvious for anyone to see it. Very, very cool. His evidence appears undeniable, because it was NASA's own cameras; but more importantly, he has these anomalous examples in many, many hours of footage in all types of lighting conditions, even interacting with the astronauts and space hardware! To say the least, NASA is impressed with this guy's evidence, and are talking to him -- claiming that his video is "the most popular underground tape among the astronauts." I really think this Canadian man has something here; and sufficient evidence to provide undeniable proof in any debate. And this case could represent a turning point in the way our leaders are going to deal with the public on the subject of extraterrestrial life. It's really worth checking out and can be obtained at UFO Central Home Video, 1-800-350-4639. Regards, Anthony | ||
Scott B. |
Thanks Anthony!!! Good to hear your alive and well..I called and the company is open from 9am to 5 pm PST, Monday thru Friday. You can place an order thru them at any time, and they will return your call to verify the information... Salome Scott | ||
Christian Frehner |
Hi Michael, Regarding your question of March 22: There is no information available (neither in the Contact Notes nor in any other FIGU publication) about the Apollo missions being hoaxed. There is some information about Billy watching the Apollo Sojus docking manoeuver. Personally I was wondering (not in 1968, but years later) why there was a flag fluttering besides Neil Armstrong (?). I learned in school that there is no wind on the moon? Well, that's a problem of NASA. :-) Regards, Christian | ||
Norm |
Marc Juliano, That would be a great idea. It would be nice if you could collect a bunch of yes & no questions from forum members to ask Billy. | ||
dongjoo - karisnorman |
There is a guy who makes the same claim that Moon landing film was a fake. His name is Milton William Cooper. He also claims that US has lunar structures which can support a bunch of people's lives in case something happens on earth. This is called part of alternative 2( or 3 ) -- which do not care anything about common people. | ||
Savio |
Hello A 2001 documantary "Did we land on the moon" was on TV yesterday. It did not have a conclusion but raised a number of issues that suggested the landing would likely be a hoax. The arguments were: 1. There were no cradle directly under the landing craft which should be caused by the anti-gravity blast during landing. 2. There should be very little dust around the landing site because of the anti-gravity blast, but there were lots of heavy boot-prints next to the craft. 3. The boots of the landing craft was shown free from dust which is not reasonable because dust blown up by the anti-gravity blast should fall back afterwards. 4. As the sun is the only light source there but shadows of various objects suggested there were more that one light sources (like within studio). 5. There were no stars in the sky of the moon. 6. Objects within the dark shadow of the landing craft can be clearly photographed suggested there were other light source. 7. Two different locations reported about 2 miles apart having the same landscape with rocks even in the same positions, same shapes and sizes. 8. The famous flag blowing in the wind. 9. The reference black crosses on all the photos should always on top of all objects but sometimes found behind objects suggested a fake. 10. The sun radiation and the radiation belt that is situated 500 miles up should be dangerous to human unless protected by a few feet of lead. That suggested why the russians would not go to the noon even today. 11. A landing craft test failed shortly before the moon mission (such fail should have delayed the mission by a year of two). 12. The roaring noise of the anti-gravity blast was not heard during landing but only the crystal clear voice of the astronaut. There were still other issues but it would be too long. Did the Plejarans or Billy have any hints regarding the moon landing? Marc, did you get your "yes" or "no"? Regards Savio | ||
Scott B. |
Hello Savio If you go up earlier into this thread you will see a post by Christian Frehner dated March 27, 10:22 p.m. As you can see at that time according to Christian he wasnt aware of any information in the contact notes or other FIGU publications regarding the possible hoaxing of any of the Apollo missions. Just recently I became aware of information from one of the FIGU members which states that the Apollo 11 mission was hoaxed in a studio on earth to get the jump on the Russians. The USA did not actually land on the moon until one year later. I cannot verify the accuracy of this information, but it is food for thought either way. Salome Scott | ||
Savio |
Hi Scott Thanks for the information  The documentary pointed out that this mystery can easily be solved if we can locate/photograph those landing gears... left on the moon. It is a pity that the most powerful telescope still not good enough to do that. The Japanese is planning for a round trip to the moon in two years time...... until then... Regards Savio | ||
Norm |
I think you should read this rebuttal about the so-called Moon landing hoax. http://www.lunaranomalies.com/fake-moon.htm http://www.lunaranomalies.com/fake-moon2.htm I believe we did go to the Moon, and that it is part of the U.S. Governments disinformation campaign to try to mislead us into thinking that maybe we didn't go to the Moon, that way the Establishment could label anyone that has a different theory other than the current mainstream accepted theories, labeled as kooks. Just like the Flat Earth believers. They will be able to say we are all kooks and put us in the same basket! | ||
Savio |
Hi Norm Thanks for the links It seems that they solved most of the mysteries. Regards Savio | ||
Michael Horn |
For what it's worth, at the Passive MEmber meeting in Switzerland it was announced that the first moon landing was hoaxed but not the next one. Michael | ||
Norm |
On July 20, 1969, the human race accomplished its single greatest technological achievement of all time when a human first set foot on another celestial body. Six hours after landing at 4:17 p.m. Eastern Daylight Time (with less than 30 seconds of fuel remaining), Neil A. Armstrong took the “Small Step” into our greater future when he stepped off the Lunar Module, named “Eagle,” onto the surface of the Moon, from which he could look up and see Earth in the heavens as no one had done before him. He was shortly joined by “Buzz” Aldrin, and the two astronauts spent 21 hours on the lunar surface and returned 46 pounds of lunar rocks. After their historic walks on the Moon, they successfully docked with Michael Collins, patiently orbiting the cold but no longer lifeless Moon alone in the Command Module “Columbia.” If this is true, then it shows you how corrupt the U.S. Government & Nasa are! | ||
Marc Juliano |
Hi Michael, You're right. This was told to me recently by a FIGU Core member. Armstrong, Aldrin and Collins have had to live with this huge lie their whole life! Marc | ||
Michael Horn |
Hi Marc, On the other hand there seem to be many problems with hoaxing this, the number of people who would have to be involved, the similarities in terrain, etc. to actual moon conditions (though photographs could have provided enough info to simulate the effect), the silence of the Russians who must have known from monitoring, and other factors. I guess there's still a part of me that also doesn't want to believe that our government would (or could) do this. Michael | ||
Jean Pierre Lagasse |
Hi all, “Hoaxed” is a “member’s term”… or Plejaran? If Plejaran, this could mean anything from: They did not go to the moon (1st landing) & “hoaxed” the entire mission… all the way to: They did go to the moon, but at least part of what was reported, was “hoaxed” (or mis-represented). Among these possibilities: Could they have gone to the moon… (first mission) but “hoaxed” what actually happened? Also… perhaps they simply did not put themselves in a position (the second landing) where they would HAVE to mis-represent anything… therefore the 2nd is not a hoax… (although events happened which were not publicized)…????? It might be interesting to study (& compare) the original broadcasts (& reporting styles) of these & other landings. Were there any publicized reports/studies of moon rocks brought back from the 1st landing? Any more "clues" from the Core Group? JP | ||
Norm |
JP, The funny thing is, Richard Hoagland(Face on Mars researcher) was there during the whole Landing in 1969, as an adviser to Walter Cronkite and they even fooled him, or is he part of it! | ||
Savio |
I am with Michael. It would be very difficult to hoax the mission, just too many people involved. After all the readings, this is my guess: 11. A landing craft test failed shortly before the moon mission (such fail should have delayed the mission by a year of two). Hence it is possible that the US did go to the moon but did not land(being not capable), just took a round trip. They hoaxed the 1st landing only and that was more easy to do. That was why those many people involved in the mission did not say anything not even the Russians. They solved the landing craft problems in the following year and the 2nd mission was real. How about that? Savio | ||
Anthony Alagna |
Hey all, I take norm's position. Look around, it seems everything is a scam. What I get from all this is that people today have the capability to go to the moon with their rocket science, hence the second real landing. The first bit job was maybe only to satisfy us little people on the ground? All the while a bunch of real astronaut superstars are out exploring space. Personally, I think the first people who went to the moon did so in anti-gravity saucer technology, originally invented by WWII German scientists. And the first real moon landing must of happened way before 1969. Maybe this first landing hoax was to make good on JFK's space agenda that involved the public? Whatever the case, it always seems we are the last to know. Regards, Anthony | ||
Tim Davis |
Hi Savio, To answer questions 6 and 8: Objects within shadows will still be lit by the reflection of the sun off the surrounding landscape. The fluttering flag is due to a rod connected to the top of the mast that the top edge of the flag is attached to. As the astronaut turned the flagpole while putting it into the ground, the rod would swing and the flag would follow, looking like it was waving in the wind. That's a good idea you come up with, looking at landing sites with a telescope. It seems like the Hubble could do that with no problem, unless the moon is too close for it to focus. I haven't heard any news about such a thing being done. That makes me wonder... | ||
Mario |
So they released those tapes where Armstrong is frantically describing some sort of craft in the moon to distract people? Mario | ||
Savio |
Hi Tim Thanks for the solutions. After reading the websites provided by Norm above, most of the doubts are logically answered except 11. According to history, a test failure like this would certainly lead to a "stop flight" for at least a year or two. Mario, your idea is logical - distraction! Regards Savio | ||
Victor DIaz |
Hi everybody: Looking for clues about moon and moonlandings sites here on earth and not in the moon,found that years ago when mineral exploration took place in the Sonora Desert Area in the early seventies, people that lived in the margins told us that unidentifeid trucks with mobile homes(who were popular at that time) got into the sands for many days, they did make photos and film of dunes and volcanics forms some months before the 1969 event, people with lights and unknown equipment for the local people was working also during nights(probably men with space suits with a flag and something like that). Just close the moonlanding date other team arrived into the desert with a communication device with the nasa logo and there happened something: as the comunication device entered into the desert people from the comunications department of the state went there to assist the people of nasa but they didn't permit them even to get into the recent setup facilities nor even stay close so they had to put their camp some miles away, days went by and just a few personel remained but one night a noise like thunderstorm was heard the people from the camp went out from their tends and saw a luminous craft standing above the nasa device,it stood some time making a loud noise and lighting the whole area the craft seemed to had a disc shaped form as the light could only be seen at distance it was bigger than trucks that where under, the thing went over them and flight up.(They were shure that it was not a Chopper or a twin-rotor neither were drinking). Next morning the nasa device went out too. What was all about? it happened over 30 years ago. Apollo 17 was the last mission in a high cost program that congress cut off as nasa didn't supported well, they just ended it and no manned mission returned otherwise at present the Moon Project would involve the whole world. We forgot our moon? They told the world that the moon has nothig. Satellite mission with VHR cameras(Clementine Program) for GIS and RS purposes were sent to capture the Moon's surface some years ago. Not only the first lunar landing could be a fake, the whole bunch including the real landings that came in the later missions were also altered in some other way(R. Hogland). Probably we could take it as a joke and smile thinking that at present the Moon is a high security area where a Princess Spaceship and Hilton Hotels are now operating only for iridium card members who had won thousands of miles free as a bonus for their next trip to Jupiter!(2001 Space Odissy, Stan.K.)Future generations will have the pleasure to be there and in hundreds of years more they won't even care when man reached moon as many of our today youngsters: I guess it was in 1969 or 1959, I don't remeber the date the teacher said?, no man, it was conquest in 1529 by the lirians in a battle against the aztecs, for shure!. Best regards, Victor | ||
Anthony Hall |
I was told this by someone who died in the late 1980s: NASA created a studio set of the Moon and filmed the necessary parts they would show the public on television. The hyped up event was political to win America, NASA and its space program prestige from abroad. If something had gone wrong with the real Moon mission, they would still go ahead with the event, but NASA would show the studio Moon videos to the public. (He also said that they did this with some of the space shuttle missions.) He said that the Moon landing on July 20, 1969 was a real event. At the time, China called the whole thing a hoax. All that America had achieved from 69-77 (their bases, command center operated by Houston and their almost ready laser beam device) on the frontside of the Moon ended in defeat on September 27, 1977. in a secret Moon war. And the war was fought on the edge of Earth’s orbit. Including other things, this is why America has not been back to the Moon. They are obstructed from returning. When you read articles like, American scientists has plans to nuke the Moon, many wonder why. My suspicion is, someone is trying to cut down NASA using the studio Moon footage it had filmed as backup. Anthony |
