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Phi_spiral
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Posted on Tuesday, December 20, 2022 - 01:54 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

continuing...excerpt from Contact Report 827

Ptaah: ...at the present time the planet Earth is already 60 per cent damaged in its ability to exist and in its condition to such an extent that one must already speak of a decay....So if we continue as before and Earth-humans are not significantly reduced to a planetarily and naturally tolerable level by a controlled birth stop in the foreseeable future, then Earth-humans will bring about their own end.

http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/14/2679.html?1666873374

There've been times in my life
I've been wonderin' why
Still, somehow I believed we'd always survive
Now, I'm not so sure
You're waiting here, one good reason to try
But, what more can I say? What's left to provide?

Are you gonna wait for a sign, your miracle?
Stand up and fight

Make no mistake where you are
This is it
Your back's to the corner
This is it
Don't be a fool anymore
This is it

The waiting is over, no, don't you run
No way to hide
No time for wonderin' why
It's here, the moment is now, about to decide
Let 'em believe
Leave 'em behind
But keep me near in your heart
Know whatever you do, I'm here by your side

For once in your life, here's your miracle
Stand up and fight

Make no mistake where you are
This is it
You're goin' no further
This is it
Until it's over and done


song lyrics from This is It by Kenny Loggins
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Bianca
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Posted on Friday, December 30, 2022 - 06:49 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Happy New year to all our figu readers.

I have been pondering this question for a very long time and I still dont know what are we to do in our efforts to expand the knowledge further a field? namely - how do we explain the problem of over population to the people who are UNknowledgeable about Billy's warnings? All religious leaderships and sectarian groups refuse to educate the people; emails are not enough, although if at least one person reads the email there is some hope that it will heighten the reader's awareness, then also letters are written, pamphlets sent and distributed by the thousands (as we did in Australia) and yet nothing is heard about any changes. So I am asking, must we wait until the US hegemony falters badly, do we just wait while throwing our arms in the air for another 200-300 years until things begin to change? Something is very unright.

So what is the solution for this quagmire? the only thought that comes to my mind is that the Plejaren could send impulses to those who are afraid to speak, I am 'hoping' that they do. We are inundated with such negative information that it cannot but create unbalance in our psyche, some would answer and offer to do the peace meditation, study the Spirit lessons, practice the art of neutral-positive thinking and yes, all these practices are very beneficial but we are still in the same dilemma and no one is listening.

How do I explain to someone the grave fact that procreation IS the cause of all our global problems while science is doing its best to decimate most of us.
Is procreation so embedded in our genes that humane behaviour and the logic cannot see daylight? Could Billy write positive material to elevate our imagination towards a better progress for all?

Do i sound a bit impatient? in a blink of an eye... and its all gone!
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Joseph_emmanuel
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Posted on Saturday, December 31, 2022 - 04:45 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I think people in general are a much bigger problem than the governments of the world and the industries that exploit the planet. You will be more successful influencing politicians and business men and women to come round to your way of thinking than you will the ordinary unthinking person on the street. And that's saying something because it is near impossible to get politicians and business men and women on board with an idea. And yet look how so many of them have embraced the Woke movement. That was, of course, a collaboration over several decades that likely has its origin in the education system, which is to say if you wish to stand any kind of chance in influencing people you need to be in a position of power. And even then there is no guarantee you will succeed. Imagine politicians telling people they will have to abstain from procreating for ten or twenty years. No one will go along with it, and that is partly to do with religious indoctrination, but it is also to do with secular indoctrination, chiefly the objective to live our lives selfishly. Unless you can influence the education system, the only way this will be possible is by having a dictatorship in place in every country that will force people to abstain from procreating. But eventually that dictatorship
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Hugo
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Posted on Saturday, December 31, 2022 - 01:49 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Bianca,

It's not possible to expand the knowledge further a field much when the vast majority of people are simply not ready to listen/think yet. Maybe in 100-300 years they may?

I think you are right there. The sooner the US hegemony/nation is gone, the better for all.


Joseph_emmanuel,

I think you are right suggesting it would likely be more successful in trying to influence politicians and businessmen then the ordinary person in the street. People are truly lost nowadays. Our thinking has gone backwards in the last decade or so. Well, in the West anyway.
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Maryam
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Posted on Saturday, December 31, 2022 - 03:13 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Good Day Bianca and Joseph, I feel your plight. I had asked myself the same questions and found myself at the very cross-roads you speak of, some time ago, to which I agree 100% with both of your assessments of the matter at hand, as well as with your concise conclusions.

As with you Joseph my friend, it became apparent to me that it is the general public who maintains the leading role in the events carried out on earth, despite being under the ruling thumb of the authorities (for they themselves lift not a finger), woefully it is truly the masses who carry out the acts, aswell as continue to elect the officials their platform and grant their systems there place, but they can nither recognize these facts, nor could they handle such a truth as of yet. They are simply not ready for the level of change and truth necessitated for the desired effect as of now. Thus Bianca, burden yourself not, for I can only see that your efforts are sufficient my friend.

We have to bare in mind that the deepest of truths affiliated with the falsity of religion (the root of the problem), which has directly inclined the overpopulation (with its be fruitful and multiply), is deeply interconnected with the masses openly accepting the existence of extraterrestrial life. For the masses to grasp the entire truth they would have to accept the Spiritual origin of the Prophets, as well as the Earths foreign history, to which now they can not. Semjase states in CR 64 (Lines 49-51) from 1976 that this acceptance would not be possible for the masses for another 200 to 300 years due to the self-degradation of the Ufologists entrusted with the truth. I further conjecture that some of the hinderance further stems as a result of a previous event. It was stated by Ptaah in 1978 that the negative waning effects of the many telenotic impulses of the Giza Intell would continue to linger on Earth for 200 or 300 years. Ptaah reaffirms this timeframe in CR 264 (line 33) from 1998.

Due to the aforesaid, I believe this to be a preparatory stage/preliminary time which we remain in, where small changes are the goal until the time is ripe for the greatest of change. I sumize that during the present time we are to accomplish 3 key objectives. While Billy, the Core Group and the Plejaren have undertaken the greatest of tasks, we as individuals are to carryout positive direct influence upon others (on a case-by-case basis) when it is welcomed and/or sought out by other individuals. Collectively we are to carryout positive indirect influence upon the masses by participating in the the Peace Meditations, which impulse distribution in then managed by our friends the Plejaren. Lastly, we are to work on ourselves, not only neutralizing any negativity acquired by our experiences here on earth, but we are also to attain thorough knowledge of all the teachings, as well as cultivate our abilities to an appropriate level, to be aptly prepared for the time when the masses are ready for waves of change, to which great action will then be at our hands.

While the greatest of change is set to occur 200-300 years from now, peradventure other smaller instances of change could ensue, set-off by world events. For example, a wave of change may begin in 2029, in which the Earth will fully enter the sphere of influence of the golden radiation, to which masses could awaken, withdrawing from religion/sects, needing/seeking the appropriate guidance/instruction, or even the mere knowledge of the impending Apophis in the coming years amid the public could stir drastic change amid the mode of thinking of the population, etc., just to name a few.
Peace be with you - Maryam
Carpe Diem (Seize the Day)
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Joseph_emmanuel
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Posted on Sunday, January 01, 2023 - 02:55 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hugo,

I read somewhere, in one of the contact reports, I think, where Billy was saying, more or less, that the world was much better fifty or so years ago than it is now because people were more intelligent then. I'm not sure how intelligence is nurtured, whether it's through oneself or through education, or both, but it seems to me that the younger generations in the West have not only been let down by a failing education system but also, more significantly, by themselves. I have never known people to be so judgemental and intolerant, so closed-minded as I have seen them to be in the last twenty years. And they pride themselves on their false sense of humanism.
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Tat_tvam_asi
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Posted on Sunday, January 01, 2023 - 12:29 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"Judgmental. Intolerant. Pride themselves..."

Yes, Hugo - you are right.
And there is a reason for it:
Because even a young woman/man becomes what [s]he thinks of most. So, 50 years ago. No Computer Games. No Killing Games. This was a different mindset... It is really astonishing how long western governments need to understand that something should be done about it.
(I have heard that China checks that children play not more than 2 hours per day – but I do not know how they control that)

And you are right 50 years ago there was as well a different education
Then, to “know” was the highest priority (e.g., historical events - why they happened – what followed out of it etc.). And yes, when one studied all that one formed an image and opinion from it. But in today's hyper-progressive world knowledge is only the by-product. Most important: the student has or can argue his/her opinion about a topic.
Le voilà - our argumentative world!

Add to this the mindset of excess.
Are not the richest 150 (or so) people in our world so rich as the remaining 9+ billion people?
With many billions of them in overpopulated, underdeveloped, exploited countries…?

They say that peace is where a balance is.
That it is in the body (plus and minus particles) of the atom, the homeostasis of the human body and in the body of our universe.
So how many more wars before Earth humans live with the wisdom and will to create a balance/peace on our planet?
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Reen71b
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I have to agree with you, Joseph_emmanuel. I've noticed over at least the past 25 years how most people don't look at each other. I mean really look at each other. Just being out and about in public, there is little to no eye contact with anyone. Sometimes, if I say something to someone in public, they'll quickly glance up and shift their eyes away. It's as if eye contact is painful to people. There is such a disconnect that most people don't want to even look at each other. I've seen this with families at restaurants pre-CV. If one ever wonders why people have substance abuse issues etc., depression, loneliness, hate, etc. one can only look to the disconnect of people. It's not normal to be so divided when it is natural for people to connect with one another. I think the disconnect is driving the mental illnesses in this world. This may be only part of the problem but a large one none the less.
Maureen
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Hugo
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Joseph_emmanuel,

I think I also recall reading Billy saying the same thing somewhere in the notes. I'm 55 now and growing up I remember seeing many people have their own individual thinking and draw their own conclusions with things. Whereas nowadays most people just automatically accept and follow the thinking of the masses/groups around them without thinking things over for themselves. I think this is what Billy referred too.
Yep, our failing education system is partly (and mostly?) to blame. So glad I wasn't subjected to all this leftist indoctrination crap when I was in school. I often find myself daydreaming thinking about how much better life was 30-40 years ago. If I was given the choice I would gladly chose to go back in time 40 years back to live out the rest of my life away from all this mess. Unsure if this is coward thing to do?
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Joseph_emmanuel
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Hugo,

I'm with you. I would rather not have seen a single day of the 21st century. But seeing as it's impossible to go back, wishing doesn't make you a coward. It just makes you human.

When I see the mindset of people nowadays, accepting what they are told without questioning it, without criticism, I feel appreciative of my sheltered childhood. Although I had friends at school, I was never part of a group, and so I never had to follow anyone, which is to say, I had no peers. That said, I was very much under my mother's thumb. But the distance I kept from other children who went about in gangs taught me to be critical of them.

I never left school with a good education. But something took possession of me at that time in my life that compelled me to read and write more seriously. I'm not an educated man, but I believe I am a reasonably intelligent man who passed through certain unpleasant experiences that allowed me to comprehend certain insights, which have now become huge problems for many people in the world today, namely issues of identity, individuality, thinking for oneself, asserting oneself, standing up for oneself, the need for boundaries, etc, etc. The way I see it, the world, certainly in the West, is struggling with depression and is in a negative relationship with narcissism.

My point being, I learned to think for myself through my effort to read and write more seriously. Admittedly the effort I made was effortless, it came naturally. I made no real conscious effort and so I didn't have to try. I just did it as though it was a part of me. I struggle now to make such effort in order to prevent myself from going backwards. But, I suspect, since the advent of the Internet, and, more specifically, social media, the younger generations haven't been doing a great deal of serious (that is, critical) reading and writing. And I think they have let themselves down in this regard. No one told me, or tried to encourage me, to read or write. They would have preferred it if I had remained stupid because then I would have given them less trouble. But I did it, somehow, I don't know how. I did it on my own accord, perhaps with the help of my consciousness without realising it. And if that is true, and so many young people are letting themselves down, imagine how poor the world is in consciousness right now.
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Joseph_emmanuel
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Maureen,

I like your theme about connecting with people. I have the same theme. It's something that has probably intruded upon your thoughts all your life.

"Relationship" is very much derided in our day and age, especially the one that exists between a man and a woman. If only people understood that relationship is everything, whether it is in marriage, family, friendship, between one human being and another; between humans and animals or humans and nature or animals and nature; between one and oneself; between the planets and their moons, their neighbouring planets, the sun; between one galaxy and the next, one universe and the next, one atom and the next. Without relationship, a balance could never exist, life could never exist, the universe could never exist. So when you see people disconnected from themselves, from each other, from nature and the world they live in, just tell them, "You're creating an imbalance by keeping yourself at a distance".

When you pass another human being, it is natural, and human, even creational, to want to acknowledge that person.

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