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Hunter
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Post Number: 165
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2005 - 07:03 am: | 
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One other thing to consider, is that the elementary (natural catastrophe) weapons that Semjase spoke of in 1981 may have been developed by another nation and therefore "Katrina" may have actually been an attack on the U.S.
Semjase's exact words were "...due to the use of the newest weaponry, America will be destroyed to a large part." It obviously doesn't make sense for America to use its own weapons to destroy itself. I can see them creating a fake terrorist attack to gain political advantage, and this has been proven with Operation Northwoods, but those in power have nothing to rule if the nation is destroyed.
Or perhaps America did create the weapons but cannot fully control them, and they "backfire" and cause more damage than intended. That's another possibility.
Namaste, Hunter |
Eric_drouin
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Post Number: 93
Registered: 05-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, September 14, 2005 - 07:26 pm: |
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Hi all:
I don't buy most of the alleged stories of conspiration about the hurricane Katrina, as this is clearly the result of irresponsbility of humans and specially north americans (that HAARP may have contributed, this is however a real possibility) and it shows lot of people are not ready to accept it
No no no,no no
The REAL conspiracy is here: it is that some element in the US goverment want to ensure total domination of their country on the world oil reserves and related politics, at all costs, even if it will lead us to WWIII:
1) Dick Cheney`s office have requested CENTCOM to establish contingency plans for attack on Iran involving nuclear weapons in the event of a SEPT 11 TYPE TERRORIST ATTACK on the USA
2) The Department of Defense is re-issuing a new defense doctrine, enabling the Army to carry out NUCLEAR pre-emptive strikes againt country that may develop WMD. Rumsfeld is about to approve it this week
3) The EU-3 countries negotiating with Iran are set in a diplomatic trap, which will lead to UN Security council not to sanction Iran, therefore the administration will reject Iran and will initiate "pre-emptive" strike
4) Oh remarkable coincidence! we learned this week from the FBI that Bin Laden is supposedely planning a nuclear terrorist attack on the USA, according to some "sources"
This is the huge conspiracy going on. And real and corrobated by many reliable media sources. Just link the dots together.
Horrible. Frightening. I was hoping that Katrina may change Bush administration priority, but for these morons, human lives is of no concern
(Neither in New Orleans, Baghdad, or soon in Tehran, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, India, China, Russia, UK, USA ...)
Eric |
Kingman
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Post Number: 22
Registered: 07-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, September 15, 2005 - 01:38 am: |
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Pretty much the US administration is insane and thinks it has nothing to worry as far as being stopped. The scary part is they do most everything out in the open not caring who sees.
a friend in america
Shawn
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Phil638
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Post Number: 130
Registered: 07-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 04, 2005 - 11:58 pm: |
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How does the U.S. know that another country hasn't developed yet some other new age fancy weapon like HAARP but that it performs a diferent type of destruction to what HAARP does like stimulates/vibrates the earth in some other kind of way? What if they did and they could use this weapon to make yellowstone national park volcano blow her top by focusing its rays over it. Scientists have stated that yellowstone being the biggest mega volcano in the world by far is nearly capable of raining total destruction all over the U.S. if it ever blows. How does the U.S. know what sort of other secret fancy weapons the rest of the world might have??? Also the fact that the plejarens prophecies of the third world war have stated that Russia will attack the U.S. first adds to this. So doesn't that means that other countries aren't afraid of attacking the U.S.? But the U.S. likes to portray to the rest of the world that everyone is afraid of ever attacking the U.S.(white house always boasting-U.S. most powerful country in the world, all U.S. films same thing, ect) That prophecy also doesn't necessarily mean that Russia will attack the U.S. out in the open either!! If that ever happened the U.S. wouldn't know if it was an attack and had to just sit there and cop it sweet.
I think the U.S. and its administration is definately insane.
phil |
Kingman
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Post Number: 33
Registered: 07-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, October 05, 2005 - 03:28 pm: |
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The power wielding neo-cons operating in Washington at this time believe that the overall technological advantage is theirs. They have previously planned militaristic outings with an understanding that once underway, necessary parameters would align. When the USSR collapsed and many of it's scientists emigrated to the US, knowledge of what the Russians had, or were working on, became available. I'm of the idea that mixed in with good info, the scientist also fed untruths to the American receptors.
Russia, as a prophetic adversary to the US, was not able to economically pace all the technological advances being created in US labs. Now in the current time it's not public what Russia is doing/creating in preparations to block or otherwise diminish any American advances. Are they maybe teamed up with another country with a need to squash the manuevers of an aggressive US administration? China? With the US aggressions in the oil rich Middle East these two countries have plenty of reasons to combine technology to thwart the US's oil grab.
Another odd circumstance I notice years ago was how open and forthcoming the US was in allowing information about the HAARP system be public. I have a hard time remembering if this had ever happened before. Here we have this super powerful system, that can change the atmosphere over a select region and thus change the reflective enviroment underneath, and the information about it's abilities are freely obtainable. This seems a source where secrecy or denile would be of a utmost need. Yet we devulged this system in the public domain. I feel this may be a reason to not believe exactly the abilities of this system as presented. It theoretically does contain the aspect of a ionsphere destroying system, but I think it's a diversion from maybe something similarly powerful but a completely different technology.
a friend in america
Shawn
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Phil638
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Post Number: 132
Registered: 07-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, October 09, 2005 - 02:22 am: |
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Kingman, how can the U.S. think like they would win in a war against russia if each country is capable of blowing the other country to total smitherines just through nuclear weapons? Wouldn't it would be just a case of each country committing suicide. Whatever extra else the U.S. has on top of that would just be overkill and pointless and not really needed. I don't understand how the U.S. can take that view as you suggested there.
phil |
Kingman
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Post Number: 34
Registered: 07-2004
| | Posted on Sunday, October 09, 2005 - 04:16 pm: |
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Phil,
Where did I presented a nuclear option?
I'm not of the impression that the neocons, the group that is currently driving the war-based foreign policy, are even thinking of any sort of conflict with Russia. Of course Mutually Assured Destruction is well accepted here. I feel that once most of the worlds oil is in the neocons control, a war with Russia would only be of a global economic-based design.
a friend in america
Shawn
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Phil638
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Post Number: 135
Registered: 07-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 11, 2005 - 06:31 am: |
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Kingman,
I'm unsure how you think I was talking to you there in regards to the economic based comments of yours there when I clearly wasn't? If you reread both our posts there you should easily see that I was clearly talking to you there in regards to the technological (defensive) comment of yours there, which was in reference to WW3/tech defensive matters and clearly not any economic based matters that you spoke about there. Here is the sentence of yours that my question/post to you above was clearly to you all about -
"The power wielding neo-cons operating in Washington at this time believe that the overall technological advantage is theirs."
Thats what my whole post to you above was clearly all about.
Also not that it matters but this section is also the WW3 section and not the politics and governments section.
regards phil |
Kingman
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Post Number: 35
Registered: 07-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 11, 2005 - 04:44 pm: |
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Hi Phil,
I see how the framing of my statement wasn't a clearly defined point. I didn't think you were refering back to me regarding the economics and I would say that I was'nt implying that the US would wage a war against Russia, as that isn't the strategy of an American agenda. The Cold War worked. To discuss WW3 is to discuss politics these days. How do you describe the WW3 scenario without those parameters involved.
I appreciate your honesty and desire to be heard fairly and in context. I am not always able to pinpoint the emphasis of your reply's and I'm likely assuming a inaccurate conclusion. I'll work at my approach so we can better understand each other.
a friend in america
Shawn
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Smythstar
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Post Number: 10
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, October 13, 2005 - 09:10 am: |
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Sorry to ask this again but I didnt really get a response last time.
Im from the land of Oz in the southern hemisphere, I realise the Third world war may indeed be averted but it increasingly looks as if it wont be.
Many predictions (elseware) have spoken of civilzation rising from the ashes from the southern hemisphere which wont be as effected as the north.
At the moment Australia is heavily under the controll of global forces and this would suggest we face the same fate.
I have a deep seated feeling of the magnificent potential this place holds to help the world see a different point of view however it is at this moment being suppressed.
My question to anyone out there who speaks or reads German and has had the chance to look at the contact records or other relevent info is how will Australia/Oceania fair in this WW111 if there is any such information? |
Ascension
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Post Number: 21
Registered: 11-2004
| | Posted on Friday, October 14, 2005 - 12:24 am: |
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Austrailia even though it geographically stands apart from the rest of the west really is close to America. More so than all other countries accept maybe britan. For this reason Austrailia will suffer quite a bit, just like the rest of the world. The chances of major cities in austrailia not being bombed is practically nil.
Further, Billy has said that the English speaking wrold is the furthest from recognition of the truth and for this reason I do not think Austrailia will play a big role in the rebuilding after WW3. Also Russia is supposed to play a leading role in truth seeking in the future.
I dont know what people from the southern hemisphere you speak of, but I seriously doubt it will be any western nation.
Also people WW3 is likley to happen in 2006, according to Meier. The second to very last pope now leads the catholics and this reason leads me to believe that war could break out next year but the real world fire will probably be in 2010 or 2011, the other dates given by the Henoch Prophecies. |
Phil638
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Post Number: 145
Registered: 07-2004
| | Posted on Friday, October 14, 2005 - 05:17 pm: |
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hi ascension,
you must be looking at a map of the world when you were saying that because if you were looking at a globe of the world you would have clearly seen that there is no other country in the world that is further away to the U.S. then what australia is. Only a few countries in the world have the capability of launching intercontinental nuclear missles into australia. Australia doesn't pose much of a militry threat to most of the other countries in the world because australia has a population of only 20 million and as such has one of the smallest armies in the world. If you reread most of my prior posts where I was commenting on australia being a safe place to live in case there is a ww3 you would have seen that most of my comments were general talking about living in the countryside of australia somewhere. Australia has only 5 major cities and australia is riddled with hundreds of country towns all over the place which are hundreds or thousands of miles away from the closest major city. For this reason I believe that living in one of australia's many country towns should be regarded as one of the safest places in the world to be living in if ww3 ever does break out. Also the prohecies say that the whole northern hemisphere is unable to be lived in if ww3 does happen in the worst case senario. So thereofre you only have africa, south america, australia and new zealand left in the world where people can live in, don't you? If those four countries are also gone too, then we can kiss ourselves all goodbye then.
phil |
Phil638
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Post Number: 146
Registered: 07-2004
| | Posted on Friday, October 14, 2005 - 06:09 pm: |
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ascension,
i forgot to say that I don't agree with you about what you said that the chances of australia's major cities not being bombed is practically nil. For one of the reasons I mentioned above as well as some other reasons i believe that theres a good chance that none of australia's major cities will be hit by any nuclear missles. If any major cities are hit by nuclear missles, the people of australia have lots of land to go live in to escape the decades of nuclear fallout around any of those major cities that were hit.
phil |
Ascension
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Post Number: 22
Registered: 11-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, October 15, 2005 - 03:17 am: |
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yo phil,
I am pretty sure that australia has its own problems on its borders. Chinas sphere of influince reaches right down to indonesia. Also another threat would be Islamic revolution wich is supposed to happen around or right after the time of ww3. Austrailia is fairly christian and christianity is supposed to be beaten down to just a tiny fraction.
I agree that the austrailian outback would be a good place as its location will be spared by the biggest bombs, but theres no doubt that austrailia would be very crushed and she will get her fair share of the agony. Even the small towns would be occupied and terrorized just as always happens.
Dont be fooled into thinking Austrailia is going to escape ww3 with out being utterly demolished in the end. Also to add a point I missed earlier, other prohecies and predictions outside of Billy meier are really bogus, so that means there is no base for yor assumption that there will be a grate country from the southern hemisphere.
I dont think that the entire northern hemisphere will be wiped out, its more of the plejaren saying what *could happen but isnt based on prohecy or preditcion, because there are prophecies that talk of countries like the US Germany Britan Spain and Russia changing after the war.
sorry if i seem to be impolite because I really dont mean it. I just dont want you to reinforce ideas that arent right. If Im wrong then of course ill recognise it and correct it, but I think I am right here. |
Smythstar
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Post Number: 15
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, October 16, 2005 - 07:00 am: |
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Yeah, its just that an awfull lot of the new world order crowd are relocating to New Zealand and Australia almost as if they knew what is about to happen.
Thosands of Americans mainly Jews are paying $2 000 000 New Zealand to get a visa and buying up a lot of land on the south island.
Also someone on here mentioned that the 2nd prophit is belived to be currently living in the southern hemisphere somewhere and will survive ww3 if it occures.
Australia is a leader in new and evironmental technologys (many being suppresed or handeled at the moment)and it is generally aknowledged that the people here have the best and fairest attitude to life anywhere in the world.
Indeed up until recently our karma was almost clear.
Yes we are on Chinas and Indonesias doorstep and we are virtually undefended but also they have to get through thousands of miles of desert to get to the main population area, our country people also have the capeability to be totaly self sufficient if it was desired however again the government is going to great lengths to make these folk dependand like everyone else.
Indeed if any nation in the world was to survive the war and rebuild I honestly think you could not logically go past Australia and New Zealand. |
Kingman
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Post Number: 40
Registered: 07-2004
| | Posted on Monday, October 17, 2005 - 04:41 am: |
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Where ever your at, the opportunity to survive a full nuclear launch will be equally available in scattered pockets through out the planet. Finding a location before the start of a "WW3" seems like a unlikely scenario. Fall out from wind, local inhabitants, unfriendly governments, finding new supply sources and the ability to travel at such times will make the,' escape option ', not as practical as it appears. I'd say we have more to worry about from severe weather.
a friend in america
Shawn
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Edward
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Post Number: 549
Registered: 05-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, October 18, 2005 - 08:12 am: |
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Hi Shawn...and All..
Yes, that is very very True! This we should keep in mind.
I once watched a documentary concerning the production of American
Cowboy films and their filming at location in the 1940-50ties.
And what seem to be the cast?
Many male as well as female actors had died from some type of cancer.
One well known actor by the name of John Wayne, whom most of us know,
filmed with the cast at a well known location. I think it was in the state
of Nevada? But anyways, the cast and him filmed many times at this
location for different cowboy movies throughout his film career. And
decades later after filming on location, many actors and actresses, and
even John Wayne had gotten some sort of cancer. To some, this all began to
be very suspicious. Even other film casts and their crew had experienced
the same.
So, what was the cause of this epidemic of cancer amongst the film actors
and their filming crew in that desert area?
It was really quite simple!
Some 150 to 200 miles or more from their filming location, there were
Nuclear Testings being done in the desert. And it became quite obvious,
that the cast and crew were being contaminated by the "Fall Out" of the
desert Nuclear Testings!! So, it became very clear...that the WIND had
carried the Fall-Out into the direction of where the film cast and their
crew were filming. Thus, some 50 to 60 or more percent of the people at
the filming location were being contaminated without them even knowing!
Only decades later they would become aware of what was taking place during
their filming.
At first, the mentioned was being taken into doubt by the government, but
thanks to the relatives of the actors and crew, they did get the
appropriate attention to acknowledge the facts.
So, the above mentioned is a very good example of what the WIND can do
with a Nuclear Fall-Out. It can carry the Fall-Out for hundreds of miles
to people whom would think they were safe from this all. But, Alas!
"Contrary"...speaks Loud words in this scenario.
Demios Russos' song - My Friend The WIND - would surely not be a song in
place!
So, imagine what for damage a Tornado or Hurricane can bring forth...when
Spiraling the Fall-Out in all directions and sifting itself across land and sea.
Something indeed to keep in mind!
Edward. |
Eric_drouin
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Post Number: 104
Registered: 05-2004
| | Posted on Monday, December 12, 2005 - 08:00 pm: |
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Hi:
Please read the following article
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2089-1920074,00.html
Salome |
Jrosales80
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Post Number: 9
Registered: 01-2006
| | Posted on Monday, January 16, 2006 - 01:01 pm: |
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Hi All....
Have any of you heard any news coverage about the upcoming Canadian Fedearal elections? This is really big news as appearantly the Conservative leader, Stephen Harper is 13 points ahead of the now in power Liberal party at 40% (Liberals 27%). Harper's platform is virtually identical to Bush's wishes - he supports the weaponization of space, violates the Kyoto accord, and is planning on permanently stationing soldiers in every Canadian city. This is truly horrible. 2005 saw a decline in support for the US due to Paul Martin's refusal to accept Bush's Missile Defence Plan (The weaponization of space), but now, this Harper guy is here and he will most likely get elected, addidng fuel to the fire with horrendous results. Seeing as we're the US' primary ally, this cannot be good news for the planet Earth. The election is Jan. 23 and I hope you all will watch it if its not covered in your area. This is truly a defeating blow for the Plejaren's and Billy's effort to save our planet from the mindlessness of these people! Seeing as the second year for the WW3 is prophesized to be in 2006, we have no hope now - we can only look forward to reincarnating far into the future on another planet after this one is blown up! An even more truly horrible thing is that in 1995 during the withdrawal of the Plejaren, Ptaah stated,
"...our withdrawal from Earth is linked with the immediate future and related events, in which we are not allowed to interfere in any form so that we may protect and keep close reigns on the secret regarding our own culture and region where we live."
This means they are expecting alien contact.
Two sentances later he states,
"Extraterrestrials will create a big flurry on Earth in the future when their interests concern other matters than excursions or expeditions. However, we are not at liberty to speak about the whys and wherefores, and neither are you, of course, for you know about all of these future events." [19]
If it concerns matters other than excursions or exlorations, it could only concern WAR. Also, if we don't change our ways, the Plejaren will not be involved or help us at all, and we as a human race will probably be exterminated or enslaved! (More likely enslaved than exterminated - we are more useful alive). This is truly a horrible development and a shocking discovery! It may sound like an insane rant, but look at the quote yourself - I don't know which contact it was though.
Food for thought. |
Jrosales80
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Post Number: 10
Registered: 01-2006
| | Posted on Monday, January 16, 2006 - 01:04 pm: |
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By the way, that was the 251st contact - Part Three - Friday Feb 3rd, 1995, 12:01 a.m. |
Smythstar
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Post Number: 18
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, January 19, 2006 - 12:44 am: |
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I hate to be the one to speculate but that is my nature so here it goes.
Who the hell are the aliens that are going to intervene?
If the is a type of Federation that precludes contact with less civilized races then it is fair to assume that this group or groups of aliens will not be part of this federation.
If they are not part of this Federation then it is probable that they are of a negative orientation or have previouse karmic links with this planet which sort of narrows down the potential culprets.
I realise how little information is available from the plejarin and billy on other ET races involved with this planet and their intentions and the constant warnings about information available from other sources but it is possible to discern common threads among the mountains of info available on the net.
Billy mentioned the Gizeh intelligences, excuse my ignorance but I cant remember reading the actual genisis of this group other than they were decendants of controll groups here from messopatmian times, but could these guys be the uninvited guests to our party?
Also constantly reffered to are the greys and to a lesser extent reptilian based lifeforms who supposedly claim the earth?
Supposition gets nowhere really but I find it interesting, what we can presuppose is our response and the response of the Plejarin to extraterrestrial intervention, surely if a gang of intergalactic missfits turn up to our party surely the parents have to do something about it?
How can advanced groups of beigns blame us for our behaviour when we are constantly being adversly influenced (soon overtly) by ET groups with intentions other than our (humanitys) ultimate benifite?
If another group turns up and interferres with us the Plejarin cannot sit back and say its our fault and we have to deal with it because its out of our reasonable controll so will they intervene even if its only to the extent to block the other faction?
If so will it be overtly disernable by the masses afterall they are supposed to be back to say hi in 700 years?
I guess they do not think we are mature enough to understand the exopolitics involved which is a great shame because I like to know the truth of things from those knowledgable and then deduce my own meaning from it or is it that even though they have been brutally honest and open to our knowledge so far do they perhaps have some dark secrets of their own they wish to hide?
We do indeed live in interesting times.. |
Jo_jo
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Post Number: 86
Registered: 04-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, January 19, 2006 - 10:46 am: |
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Here's a Q&A from Billy that puts things in perspective.
Hello Billy,
In Contact 251 you raise the issue of the criminal neglect to monitor the
Earth from outer space. What in particular do you see as the more serious,
near-term threat: asteroids, comets or planetoids that will impact the Earth
or extraterrestrials that will attack the Earth?
With best regards,
Ed
Answer
Asteroids etc. are a much greater threat than ETs (the latter threat is minimal). |
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