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Hunter
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Post Number: 198
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, February 02, 2006 - 03:29 pm: | 
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* the footage of the 2nd plane impacting the World Trade Center? It was not an American Airlines Aircraft by any means.
Scott, if this is true, then what happened to all the passengers aboard the flights that they claimed were lost? Surely some of these people would come forward, or their families would say something. |
Norm
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Post Number: 756
Registered: 02-2000
| | Posted on Thursday, February 02, 2006 - 05:07 pm: |
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All Meier said was the fact that they let the attacks happen. I didn't read anything from Meier that said the Secret Service set up the attack or faked it. There are tons of theories out there & how many of them are the Governments disinfo. |
Consolato
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Post Number: 74
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Thursday, February 02, 2006 - 06:22 pm: |
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Hi Hunter, Norm,
I think the reason why billy said that the U.S. let the attacks happen is because at that time, thats all he knew or at that time thats all the plejarens would tell him what happened. As we all know there are times and reason why/when the plejarens deliberately withhold certain information from billy. Or maybe it could even be that billy did know what happened back then but it was he that was deliberately witholding that information from us.
Hunter, I think that after you watch that film 9/11 inplanesite that you too will be certain like scott and I are that the U.S. was solely and wholely responsible for orchestrating the 9/11 attacks and not bin laden. It's not true that the only thing wrong that the U.S. did was to let it happen because that wasn't the case of what happened. The U.S. setup and did the whole thing and the only thing that bin laden did was to go along with it. I also don't believe that bin laden would be hiding in the afhganistan mountians either, I believe that he would be living in comfort in some part of the world under a new identity, care of the U.S. as payment for his co-operation/involvment.
Con |
Jo_jo
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Post Number: 94
Registered: 04-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, February 02, 2006 - 07:19 pm: |
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When Billy said the US let the attacks happen, was he commenting about the World Trade Center and the Pentagon or just the WTC? |
Hunter
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Post Number: 199
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, February 02, 2006 - 08:23 pm: |
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You know, I really don't know how we can NOT avoid World War 3. I hate to be so negative, but it just doesn't good. If we avoid the prophecy threat and start over from that point, then that means the 2 billion people who would have died during WW3 will live and continue to reproduce. Our overpopulation problem will get much worse, much sooner. Also, our economic problems will worsen more quickly and we all know WW2 was basically preceded by a global depression. Even if we avoid WW3, if we don't do something about overpopulation and the draining of natural resources and our corrupt governments, we'll eventually be moving back towards World War 3 in short order. |
Norm
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Post Number: 757
Registered: 02-2000
| | Posted on Friday, February 03, 2006 - 07:53 am: |
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Consolato,
Well Meier could clear that up now & he hasn't so until Meier says otherwise I will stick to his original info. |
Consolato
Member
Post Number: 75
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Friday, February 03, 2006 - 08:34 am: |
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Hi Hunter,
I agree with you and share your negativity too that our prospects of avoiding World War 3 don't look too good at the present moment, but regardless of how bad it looks it still might not happen. I think or should I say I am hoping that the plejarens will do something at the last minute to help us avoid having World War 3. I think that this is what might happen there even though the plejarens have stated before in the contact notes that if we start World War 3 that they would let it happen. I think that is what might happen there only because of how the plejarens have told us (white?) lies in the past is why. I'm hoping that it is the case of what will happen there anyway.
I think that apart from overpopulation being the world's biggest problem today that this is the next biggest problem we have today = Corrupt World Governments.
p.s anyone have any feedback back to my 'post 70' from previous page? thx.
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Newinitiation
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Post Number: 128
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Saturday, February 04, 2006 - 07:31 pm: |
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dear consolato
It's a very difficult one indeed consolato
I agree wholeheartedly with you that corruption is the major obstacle to a better world but we must ask why?, but then the enormous inter-related and multifaceted nature of this problem cannot simply broil down to a few sets of well defined problems proposed and outlined by billy and the plejarens because most of humanity cannot or aren't willing to admit it.
Because we are dealing with many many people with their given personalities, intelligence and characteristics that influence as a whole what the outcome we see today manifests itself as, there is just too many actors or I should say cooks who are spoiling the broth.
Having said this I cannot imagine how those people in power from the first or the third world countries will dare to speak out against USA government when they clearly know their own suits are full of dust and dirt. It'll be like the kettle calling the pot black. They would be very weary of their own shortcomings and concealing it the best they can from their own citizens is the main stapple to their ability to govern among various other things.
So you see that the problem is far from black or white. Most leaders of a nation got to where they are through cunning and immorality behind closed doors and this is what it takes to be in power. Ethics to them have a completely flexible meaning and definition according to their ability to bend and stretch.
I really cannot do justice in the end to your question consolato, its really beyond most of us to grasp all the facets of each and every cause.
sorry I have to go now.
peace be with you |
Consolato
Member
Post Number: 78
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, February 05, 2006 - 01:47 am: |
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originally posted by Norm -
"All Meier said was the fact that they let the attacks happen. I didn't read anything from Meier that said the Secret Service set up the attack or faked it. There are tons of theories out there & how many of them are the Governments disinfo."
Hi Norm,
as you probably already know judging by your post count, the plejarens don't tell billy everything and that might have been all that billy knew about it back then. Yes, 9/11 theories are 9/11 theories, but 9/11 facts are 9/11 facts, and 9/11 facts is what Scott and I were talking about. Have you seen any of the 9/11 conspiracy fims yet to see for yourself some of the actual film footage facts, such as the third building of the world trade centre coming down after being "classically" imploded by dynamite? That building wasn't even hit by an airplane, how do you explain that? It would've have taken weeks for demolition experts to set that building up to come down like that!! Not only that, but if you watch 9/11inplanesite you will see many more 9/11 setup facts in that film too. Theres also many other good 9/11 conspiracy films too, but I highly recommend watching 9/11inplanesite. I'm sure that if you watch it that after you do that you too will have no doubts in your mind that the U.S. setup the 9/11 attacks. If the U.S. played a hand in the 9/11 attacks, then they did the whole lot. Here is a link to the film 9/11inplanesite (3 parts) where you can watch it or download it for free. Just scroll down this webpage to where it says 9/11inplanesite.
http://www.question911.com/links.php
originally posted by Newinitiation -
"the third world countries will dare to speak out against USA government when they clearly know their own suits are full of dust and dirt."
Hi Newinitiation,
but any nations that do speak out against the U.S. they will have no problems trying to prove that the U.S. did the 9/11 attacks because of the ammount of evidence to support it is massive and undeniable. As for the fear of their own dirt, I don't think that any nation in the world has for a long time done anything as bad and as pathetic to its own people as what the U.S. did over the 9/11 attacks? Also what the U.S. did is something completely different to what anything that any other nation in the world might have done in the past too. Any bad things that other nations might have did to their people (over money, power, ect) in the past they've kept it quite and too themselves. Whatever evil act they did, they kept it in their own country, whereas what the U.S. did is set something evil up and taken it to the world making it everyone's business so to speak, so the U.S can disgracefully take power/wealth from some other certain world nations to make itself even more richer and more powerfull then what it already bloody well is!! The U.S. has used the world stage to carry out this evil criminal act, and has insulted and thrown dirt in the faces of every other nation thats seated at the united nations who DO stand there for world peace. The U.S. setup 9/11 to get world domination. What I don't understand is if another nation is not your ally but is an enemy, you would not like to see that nation become even more powerfull then what it already is, especially if how they are doing it is a united nations crime. Why aren't countries like russia, china, north korea, iran, ect strongly complaining to the united nations about what the U.S. really did in 9/11 to stop the U.S. from becoming even more powerfull then what it already is and getting world domination???? Thats what I don't understand.
Con |
Consolato
Member
Post Number: 79
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, February 05, 2006 - 02:03 am: |
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Well Known President Bush Joke Called Kids Aren't Stupid -
President Bush recently went to a primary school in Macon, Georgia, to talk about the world. After his talk, he asked if the children had any questions. One little boy put up his hand, and the president asked him his name.
"Kenneth."
"And what is your question, Kenneth?"
"I have three questions:
1 ... Whatever happened to the weapons of mass destruction?
2 ... Why did you give a tax break to the super wealthy?
3 ... Did you steal votes to win both elections?"
Just then the bell rang for recess. President Bush informed the kiddies that they would continue after recess.
When they resumed, the President said "OK, where were we? Oh, that's right, question time. Who has a question?"
A different little boy put his hand up.
Bush pointed him out and asked him his name.
"Larry."
"And what is your question, Larry?"
"I have five questions:
1 ...Whatever happened to the weapons of mass destruction?
2 ...Why did you give a tax break to the super wealthy?
3 ...Did you steal votes to win both elections?
4 ...Why did the recess bell go off 20 minutes early?
5 ...What happened to Kenneth?"
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Consolato
Member
Post Number: 80
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, February 05, 2006 - 02:28 am: |
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originally posted by Norm -
"Consolato,
Well Meier could clear that up now & he hasn't so until Meier says otherwise I will stick to his original info."
I've put that question to billy in the billy answered questions. It would be interesting to see what billy says about it now, but personally I believe that I'm wasting one of my questions to billy asking him if the U.S. setup the 9/11 attacks, and only am asking it for the benefit of clearing this matter up.
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Newinitiation
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Post Number: 129
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, February 05, 2006 - 01:33 pm: |
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dear consolato
Having thought about a few things discussed by you concerning the 9/11 saga, I cannot help but think how much of a stranglehold USA has on the world economically and militarily. It would be a fair judement on my part when I say that in most countries deemed significant to the USA, they have military presence in one form or another, Japan is one example.
As it was written in contact 251, I gather when the third world and other countries see a crack in the hegemony of USA power structure, time will come when dissent will be inevitable but right now the USA is the biggest donar to UN which means they also have a greater say in the kind of puppet they'll put up as it's head who will more than tow the USA's line not to mentions big American corporation stretching its tentacles in most nations of this world.
So it is as much to do with money and aid as it is to do with self interest of the rulers of the third world nations when they don't speak out against the USA government for the fear of santions and reprisle.
From time immorial the CIA has been involved in insidious activities of bringing down governments from many nations that don't conform with their policies and vital global strategic initiatives through various machinations both direct and indirect.
Even if your question to Billy would be answered with somewhat question marks still remaining (because billy is aware that what he says may be fodder for possible incrimination) the truth is we will never know to what extent president Bush was responsible other than that his administration and himself knew what was to occur on that fateful day without doing anything about it.
Don't you just wish you had a timemachine right now, then there will be no doubt whatsoever.
Anyway I am sure the saga will continue for many years to come, who knows maybe more details will emerge and people within the circle may come forward after Bush leaves office and make it clearer for the rest of the world which maybe one reasons for them to think its about time they distanced themselves from USA.
peace be with you |
Consolato
Member
Post Number: 83
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, February 05, 2006 - 07:58 pm: |
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*"Even if your question to Billy would be answered with somewhat question marks still remaining (because billy is aware that what he says may be fodder for possible incrimination) the truth is we will never know to what extent president Bush was responsible other than that his administration and himself knew what was to occur on that fateful day without doing anything about it."
Yes thats right Newinitiation and I'm glad you said that too. If the U.S. let the attacks happen, then billy should reply back to my question with the same answer as he did in the contact notes, but if he doesn't and he reply's back with something like "no comment", then I'm sure most of us would know what that all means as to wether or not the U.S. did set the 9/11 attacks up.
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Consolato
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Post Number: 86
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Sunday, February 05, 2006 - 09:16 pm: |
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Newinvitation,
I forgot to say before that it would be foolish of us to FIRST start considering Bush as being the helpless puppetman in all this or that he didn't know it was going to happen until it happened or especially that he didn't orchestrate anything in the 9/11 attacks because lets not forget who the plajerans said that G.W.Bush really is - 666 The Antichrist.
I posted this in another thread -
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G.W. BUSH is 666 and the Antichrist too and this has also been proven by using the known science of numerology.
from webpage below -
George Walker Bush is the ANTI-CHRIST 666 = The Beast. The violence and destruction that began when Bush first entered office, is now certain to culminate in the apocalypse, as predicted in the Bible over 2,000 years ago.
George Bush's name is equal to 666 if we use the Hebrew letter equivalents. It is also equal to 666 if we use the two most commonly used systems in numerology as well as in ASCII code......................................(too many equations to be listed here - refer to webpage below to see complete list)......................................there you have it - 666 - the number of the Beast, absolutely any way you care to add it up. The number of his name in Hebrew = 666. The number of his name using the Pythagorean system = 6. The Chaldean system = 6. ASCII code = 6. The number of his birthday = 6. His lucky number = 6. The number of the date when he was first elected Governor = 6. When he is first inaugurated Governor = 6. The number when he was inaugurated president of the United States = 6. The number of the man/beast named George Walker Bush = 666.
http://www.bushisantichrist.com/
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If it is true that the U.S. setup the 9/11 attacks, we should not first consider Bush as being the helpless puppet on strings getting pushed around in all of this, but as being one of the most likely main orchestrators in all of this.
G.W.Bush = 666 The Antichrist
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David_chance
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Post Number: 79
Registered: 03-2003
| | Posted on Monday, February 06, 2006 - 11:58 am: |
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Hi Con,
I don't think the Plejarens ever said G.W. Bush was the "anti-Christ". From what I have read in the FIGU material the "anti-Christ" is not a person. There is more about the meaning of 666 and "the Beast" elsewhere on this discussion board.
Also, "the known science of numerology" has been commented upon in the Contact Reports as not being (generally) very accurate as it is commonly practiced here on Earth. I think it tends to support more thinking & behaviors stemming from superstition than it does from "science". |
Jo_jo
Member
Post Number: 95
Registered: 04-2003
| | Posted on Monday, February 06, 2006 - 12:15 pm: |
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666 or anti-christ stands for W.U.V. using the number values of the letters in the German language. For more detail, see Anthea's post at this link.
http://forum.figu.org/us/messages/13/1952.html#POST16508 |
Wayne
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Post Number: 6
Registered: 07-2004
| | Posted on Monday, February 06, 2006 - 03:19 pm: |
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6th of February 2006;
Noticed your posts;
FYI:
On the internet: They have anounced that the passenger lists for the four planes that were all 1/4 full..those 'alledged' passengers were all white employees of US GOV.; and AEROSPACE/suppliers.
No Arab names (on official lists) are present.
The spouses of these dead passengers almost have never ever given an interview after the events of 11/09/01.
757's and later Boeing planes have (because of past hijackings of 35 years) (see sherman skolnick's website in Chicago)...
an extensive anti-hi-jacking system, which runs like this:
motion detectors all over the plane
heat, sound and video detection
pilot cabin monitors
any one false move locks all controls; activates a nose camera; all commands/controlls of that plane are transfered without delay to a ground controller who land the plane remotely.
The piolot cabin is instantly locked no alterations permitted;
all controlls are locked like a anti-theft device on a car.
Any 'cowboy maneuvers' are nullified by a computer sensing any danger to any passengers...making any stunts like turning the plane sideways..is not possible.
EVERY CONTROL IS A COMPUTER INTERFACE NOWADAYS..THERE IS NO DIRECT CONTROL OF ANY AIRPLANE ANY LONGER.
This technology is called FLY BY WIRE installed in each 757 767 777 airbus and maybe more.
Boeing is guilty of hiding this fact; THIS COMPANY IS COMPLICIT IN THE CRIME OF MASS MANSLAUGHTER
LIVE LONG AND PROSPER; |
Markc
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Post Number: 270
Registered: 06-2000
| | Posted on Monday, February 06, 2006 - 05:19 pm: |
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The true meanings of 666 , "the Beast ",
antichrist( antilogos = anti-logic), are various . The B.E.A.S.T is the acronym for the world supercomputer in Belgium . It's possible that a person would represent the anti-logic in it's most aggressive form ; also of interest is Nostradamus mention of a "Mabus" ......try viewing it so: Mrbus , or MrBus .
Mark Campbell
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Consolato
Member
Post Number: 87
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Monday, February 06, 2006 - 05:39 pm: |
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Hi David_chance,
I don't know if you are right there about wether or not george bush is the antichrist, however he is 666 if you look at what queztal says to billy halfway down this page -
http://www.theyfly.com/news2005/aug05/aug05.htm
I think that when the plejarens commented in the contact reports that our numerology system is not very accurate, I believe they were refering to the deeper meaning of numerology to do with finding out a persons true personality traits and stuff, like astrology. But all the 6's assoiciated with george bush is simple numerology/numbers and are %100 correct.
"The number of his name in Hebrew = 666. The number of his name using the Pythagorean system = 6. The Chaldean system = 6. ASCII code = 6. The number of his birthday = 6. His lucky number = 6. The number of the date when he was first elected Governor = 6. When he is first inaugurated Governor = 6. The number when he was inaugurated president of the United States = 6."
On that website it makes mention of the chances of someone having so many 6's associated with them like bush has and here is what it says the chances are measured in billions -
"So what are the chances? The chances of anyone's name being equal to 666 in Hebrew are at least one in a thousand. The chances of each of the other outcomes by themselves is 1 in 9. By using the law of cumulative probability, we can figure the chance of all these things happening together to be conservatively estimated at 1 chance in (1,000 x 9 x 9 x 9 x 9 x 9 x 9 x 9 x 9), or 1 chance in 43,046,721,000. That's about seven times the current total world population. Since the Bible says that the Antichrist will be the most powerful leader in the world, and George Bush has already attained that goal, it would be fair to say that we would have to see another 43,046,721,000 most-powerful world leaders like Bush come and go before we would have an even chance of seeing another world-leader who was as strongly associated with the number 666. If all these most powerful world leaders only lasted an average of 4 years, and they followed one right after another - as with a single presidential term - it would take over 172 billion years before we'd have an even chance of seeing another world leader who was as strongly associated with the number 666. But according to the latest estimates, our sun will burn out in another 4-5 billion years. Therefore, it's extremely unlikely that any other world leader will ever again be as strongly associated with the number 666 as George Bush."
http://www.bushisantichrist.com/
Con |
Hunter
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Post Number: 200
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Monday, February 06, 2006 - 06:32 pm: |
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* Hunter, I think that after you watch that film 9/11 inplanesite that you too will be certain like scott and I are that the U.S. was solely and wholely responsible for orchestrating the 9/11 attacks and not bin laden.
Consolato, another possibility is that the tape In Plane Sight is a fraud--possibly an attempt to misdirect people from the true scandal and further marginalize anyone questioning the official explanation. I always approach everything from a position of skepticism. As I said, I believe the possibility exists that it was orchestrated by the U.S., but I don't believe they had to go that far this time. I've seen your question to Billy, so we'll wait to see if his answer has changed from his original explanation. |
Consolato
Member
Post Number: 88
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Monday, February 06, 2006 - 07:13 pm: |
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Dear Forum Members,
we are all here because we all share one thing in common with each other and that is we all seek the truth. I have stated something in this thread which I now believe is not true and wish to point it out to everyone for the benefit of the members and board. I stated that bin laden and george bush were working together over the 9/11 attacks and now believe that is not true. I never got that information from any of the 9/11 conspiracy films I had recommended for people here to see, I got that from a particular website and won't bother mentioning which one. I realised my mistake last night after thoroughly reading gaiaguys "bin laden" section as well as some others too. I now believe the truth about Bin Laden is that he wasn't working with George Bush. Here is the gaiaguys webpage link to bin laden section -http://www.gaiaguys.net/Osama.htm
I don't really know why I believed what that one particular website was saying was the truth about bin laden and disregarded what all the other good websites were saying was the truth on the matter. My comments about bin laden working together with george bush were wrong/false and I apologize for mouthing off about it to people here like I did and not showing adeqate proof to support that claim.
I still believe though the statements I had made about the U.S. setting up the 9/11 attacks is the truth of what really happened there. The proof I have to support this statement can be found in the weblink I provided earlier and watching the 9/11 conspiracy films I suggested for people to watch. I believe the truth of what really happened in 9/11 is there in those films because pictures and films being broadcast live don't lie and in my books get classified as factual proof/evidence.
Once again I apologize for the disinformation I voiced out to people here about such an important topic and matter as what 9/11 is.
Con |
Newinitiation
Member
Post Number: 134
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Monday, February 06, 2006 - 08:37 pm: |
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dear consolato and forum members
There is no doubt that bush and his cabals were responsible and it doesn't take information from billy to see this as the evidence from various agencies investigating the disaster points directly in bush's direction.
As to the meaning of the value 666, I read that it refers to the EU.
peace be with you |
Consolato
Member
Post Number: 89
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, February 07, 2006 - 09:35 am: |
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originally posted by Hunter -
"Consolato, another possibility is that the tape In Plane Sight is a fraud--possibly an attempt to misdirect people from the true scandal and further marginalize anyone questioning the official explanation."
Hi Hunter,
did you watch all of 9/11inplanesite because its states towards the end of the documentery that all the fims clips were shown from the documentary fims that BBC, CNN, Fox, ect made on the 9/11 attacks shortly after it happened. Those TV stations would never rig those clips because all those stations are %100 on Bushes side. This was proven too during Bushes election and re-election when they totally favouritised Bushes election campain giving him heaps of publicity over John Kerry. And it wasn't just that, they were also doing other dirty stuff like putting John kerry's image and popularity down like regularly commenting that he looks too French to be a U.S. president, to give the idea like he wouldn't be suitable to be a U.S. president. That actually all happened and there was lots of complaints, talk and publicity over what those TV stations did during the election campain straight after the elections.
As for my question to billy, I personally believe that billy is going to avoid answering it and if he does, then its up to people to work out for themselves wether or not it could imply that the U.S. were indeed responsible for the 9/11.
Con |
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