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Imagematters
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Post Number: 3
Registered: 04-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, April 22, 2004 - 02:56 pm: | 
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Watching the news today, it had an article about the global warming effects that are already happening, you know flooding, coastal erosion aceleration, and adverse weather, thatb kind of thing, but it just was another story. It was one of the last stories to feature, and they may have well been talking about about David Beckhams new hairstyle, the way it was delivered.
Realisation struck me that, everyone will carry one as they always have, nothing will change, and things will carry on getting gradually worse, with no one really caring, because the bills need to be paid, and bills are more important.
Global warming and its effects are already here, and still no one gives a damn.
THIS IS WHY I THINK THE EARTH AND MANY MANY SPECICIES AND ENVIRONMENTS WILL NOT SURVIVCE THE 5.8 BILLION HUMANS WHO DONT GIVE A DAMN (ONLY 0.2 BILLION DO CARE, AND THAT IS NOT ENOUGH)
Reality at its worse
Stuart Lovatt
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Jukdo
New member
Post Number: 4
Registered: 05-2004
| | Posted on Thursday, June 03, 2004 - 12:09 pm: |
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Fallout from melting Arctic sea ice likely to appear in surprising places
A new supercomputer-driven climate study predicts that winter storms will whomp into the Gulf of Alaska more often if Arctic sea ice continues to melt away in summer.
But this Alaska effect was minor compared with a huge decline in rain and snow in the American West, according to a study published this spring in Geophysical Research Letters by scientists at the University of California Santa Cruz.
The study, by earth sciences professor Lisa Sloan and graduate student Jacob Sewall, took predictions of reduced ice cover between Greenland and Norway by 2050 and plugged them into a computer program. What they found was surprising.
"It shows how interconnected the climate system is," Sloan said. "Here we are reducing Arctic sea ice, and the biggest climatic response is felt in an entirely different part of the world."
The rising column of warm air created by open water in the far north Atlantic region during summer shifted circulation patterns across the globe all year. Winter storm tracks now hitting the West Coast between the Gulf of California to southern British Columbia veered north. Annual precipitation plunged in some locations by as much as 30 percent.
For southern Alaska, the result appeared to be more direct hits by big, wet winter storms. Precipitation could go up 3 to 6 percent.
"Given that Alaska is most likely already seeing part of any storm that hits the West Coast during the winter, this may not mean a huge increase in the number of storms," Sewall explained in an e-mail message. "But the intensity of some of them may increase."
-- Anchorage Daily News 4-04
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Technod
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Post Number: 5
Registered: 07-2003
| | Posted on Friday, September 24, 2004 - 06:00 pm: |
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hello again,
i wonder if all that new weight and temp. variations from the ice shelves dancing around the ocean is the real question.another good show on c2c with jonathon goldman. website is www.healingsounds.com talks a good talk with a few religous relapses.ha,ha
evryone
be well
brian
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Isabellacoca
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Post Number: 57
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 - 12:52 pm: |
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Hello everyone. I must say that I am very surprised only three people posted their thoughts and concerns on this matter of global warming. Don't you guys care? As Imagematters said,"...5.8 BILLION HUMANS...DONT GIVE A DAMN (ONLY 0.2 BILLION DO CARE, AND THAT IS NOT ENOUGH).
Having said that, here's what I think about global warming. First, we all know that Chlorofluoro carbons(CFCs) deplete the ozone layer when the ozone layer is supposed to be here to protect us from the sun's rays and control the amount of heat trapped in earth. And of course add pollution of all kinds to that and you have yourself a withces brew of the deadliest stuff. Albert Einstein once said and have made a prodiction about the effects of global warming, which was not as serious as it is today. He predicted that that the arctic ocean will rise because the glaciers will be melted away and while this is happening, the waters around the earth will steadily rise. and his prediction came true. Cities will soon be underwater. Soon half of earth will be dry and burnt to a crisp and the other half will be flooded. with this global warming, we also might get ourselves another ice age through this global warming because that's what happened every time. when global warming gets through, you have an ice age. when the ice age gets done, the global warming will come through, thousands of years from now. maybe just hundreds. or maybe, tomorrow we'll get another ice age. And speaking of which, i just realized that this is a cycle. the earth was a cold place and then it got hot as formation took place with volcanoes and nothing but volcanoes and gases. and then it cooled down. then it heated up again and so on and so forth. maybe it has to due with what earth is made of inside. i think it goes like this from top to inner. crust, mantle, magma, lava, core. i probably got it wrong. i haven't had a science class for an extremley long time.
THANK YOU EVERYONE, for giving me the time to share what was on my mind and please do forgive my spelling and grammar.
PS: Styrofoams have CFC's! Did you know that? when we use styrofoam cups plates and spoons and packaging we are sending CFC's into the air when we throw this stuff away and even when we use them!
Salome and love to all,
Isabella Coca
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Scott
Moderator
Post Number: 768
Registered: 12-1999
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 - 05:46 pm: |
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Hi Isabella Coca,
During Billy's 7th contact (Tuesday, February 25, 1975, 6:02 p.m.) with Semjase he was informed about the depleted Ozone layer and CFC's are partially responsible for it's thinning. He wrote letters to all the world Governments, if I recall, but not much has changed since then, in my opinion. The population figures you sited, are not in accordance with what has been stated by the Plejarens. At present we have over 7 billion people alive on this planet, with no end in sight....Thank you for bringing this subject up.
Regards
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Der_beobachter
Member
Post Number: 44
Registered: 05-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 18, 2006 - 05:24 pm: |
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Isabella,
I am a reader of the works of scientist James Lovelock. Have you ever heard about him? He is the author of the GAIA theory.
His website is this one:
http://www.ecolo.org/lovelock/
Please read this one...
The Point of No Return is Behind Us
Environment in crisis: 'We are past the point of no return'
Quote:
Climate Change Will Kill Billions This Century, Scientist Says
Bloomberg.com, Jan. 16, 2006
Jan. 16 (Bloomberg) -- Climate change will kill billions of people this century as the Earth warms, passing into a ``fever' phase from which it may take 100,000 years to recover, James Lovelock, the scientist who propounded the ``Gaia' theory, said.
"Thirty years ago, the scientist James Lovelock worked out that the Earth possessed a planetary-scale control system which kept the environment fit for life. He called it Gaia, and the theory has become widely accepted. Now, he believes mankind's abuse of the environment is making that mechanism work against us. His astonishing conclusion - that climate change is already insoluble, and life on Earth will never be the same again. " end of quote
Full text here:
\newurlhttp://www.heatisonline.org/contentserver/objecthandlers/index.cfm?id=5725&method=full
ONLY AN IDIOT CANNOT SEE THERE IS NO MORE TIME LEFT...WITH OR WITHOUT THE PLEJAREN WE ARE DAMNED!!!
Der Beobachter Edelweiss
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"Lernen, ohne zu denken, ist eitel;
denken, ohne zu lernen, ist gef?hrlich..."
"Learning without thinking is vain. Thinking without learning is dangerous..."
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Gaiaguysnet
Member
Post Number: 144
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 19, 2006 - 04:28 pm: |
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Steady on, José!
If we were all doomed, why would I be doing all this hard work trying to spread the re-newed teachings instead of sitting under a shady tree trying to develop a beer habit?
The Powers That Be are slathering to have us all believe that we are in The End Times, when that only applies to THEM! :-)
The weather has been manipulated since 1976, and the technical fix for all our energy and climate woes sits on the Black Shelves. Scroll down our opening page until you get to our "Weather Wars" sections, and you will feel better about things after studying this information carefully, which - I admit - is rather too technical for most folks, but no less true for the fact that people can't believe it. They don't believe Billy either.
Cheers, mate!
Dyson |
Der_beobachter
Member
Post Number: 44
Registered: 05-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 19, 2006 - 09:44 pm: |
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TELONIN...???
Hello.
Whoever it may concern,
I would like to inform that my good brother and sister Dyson and Vivienne Legg have finished a BRAND NEW translation from the book:
Existentes Leben im Universum
Existing Life in the Universe ©1978
von/by Eduard Albert "Billy" Meier
One more VALUABLE AND FAITHFUL Translation by good friends Gaiaguys.
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"...Gerade dieses Neutrino aber ist sehr schwer zu isolieren, was jedoch sehr gut ist, denn würde der Erdenmensch dies zur heutigen Zeit vermögen, dann würde er dies tun und damit unweigerlich und rettungslos das gesamte Universum zerstören, wenn er nämlich dieses Neutrino unter bestimmten Voraussetzungen nutzen würde.
But exactly this neutrino is very difficult to isolate, which is however very good, because then the Earth human would today be capable of doing this, and then he would do this, and thereby unfailingly and irretrievably destroy the entire universe if he namely employed this neutrino under certain prerequisites." end of quote
Dazu die Aussagen der Ausserirdischen: Bereits vermögen die Erdenmenschen die Existenz des TELONIN nachzuweisen, dem sie jedoch die Bezeichnung NEUTRINO gegeben haben.
So to the statements of the extraterrestrials: the Earth humans may already have detected the existence of the TELONIN, that they however have given the name NEUTRINO.
Translation by Gaiaguys (read excerpts online at gaiaguys´ website)
http://www.gaiaguys.net/meier.elu.p169,192,280-282.htm
This information will fit very well in the silly minds of those know-it-alls we call 'scientists' who think they are the Crown of Creation and could EXPLODE the whole Universe in a fraction of a milisecond less than a blink of an eye.
Please read to understand the importance of this text.
Spread the word and this link below to all scientic community of this planet Earth.
TELONIN
At the Gaiaguys we read:
"Some valuable information about neutrinos for the ignorant/arrogant Earth scientists who play with fire.
And a bit more is revealed about why these good ET people are so concerned about our planet.
"A gleaming explosion would transform the Earth into a glowing white cloud of gas in less that five one-hundredths of a second, while the chain reaction would race out into free space with the speed of light ... "
WHAT IS TELONIN???
TELONIN=NEUTRINO
Neutrinos
"...The neutrino is a fundamental particle, emitted in various nuclear and particle physics processes. For instance, a neutrino is produced along with an electron in nuclear beta decay (radioactivity). The universe contains several powerful sources of neutrinos:
the sun and the other stars in steady state,
supernovae, which loose most of their energy in a few seconds in the form of neutrinos, certain massive astrophysical systems (quasars, active galactic nuclei...), which are sources of high energy neutrinos, constituting an important component of cosmic rays.
Neutrinos are stable. We are immersed in a halo of cosmological neutrinos, or relic neutrinos, produced during the Big-Bang..."
Please copy and paste the link.
http://www.gaiaguys.net/meier.elu.p169,192,280-282.htm
Illustrations added by D.B.
Der Beobachter Edelweiss
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"Lernen, ohne zu denken, ist eitel;
denken, ohne zu lernen, ist gef?hrlich..."
"Learning without thinking is vain. Thinking without learning is dangerous..."
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Technod
Member
Post Number: 35
Registered: 07-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, April 20, 2006 - 08:36 pm: |
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about this universal destruction maddness telonin/neutrino
if advanced races throughout the universe catch wind of this i wonder what ther thoughts would be.
On the evolotional note that seems like an awfull lot of power for us or i mean the ignorant earthdweller.
peace B
brian
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Isabellacoca
Member
Post Number: 62
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Friday, April 21, 2006 - 06:21 am: |
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Hello everyone,
I just want to say that I'm glad we're finnaly into the topic of Global Warming.
Salome and love to all,
Isabella Coca
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Truthseeker
Member
Post Number: 146
Registered: 03-2003
| | Posted on Friday, April 21, 2006 - 06:33 pm: |
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I was just thinking about the neutrino and what can happen if misused. I wonder if this is what caused the astronomical "Eye of God" or "Ring nebula".
Peace in being everyone,
James Truthseeker |
Scott
Moderator
Post Number: 772
Registered: 12-1999
| | Posted on Saturday, April 22, 2006 - 12:59 pm: |
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Hello,
Scientist are being persuaded to subdue info regarding Global Warming.
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/041706F.shtml |
Gaiaguysnet
Member
Post Number: 150
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Saturday, April 22, 2006 - 05:59 pm: |
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Hi everyone!
Dear Isabella, The Kyoto summit is 100% pseudoscience. We need DRASTIC greenhouse gas emmission reduction (like 80-90%!) to fix things this way. Even Scientific American was saying that YEARS ago.
Dear Brian, Yeah, crazy, huh? So our universe is not unlike our own bodies, which are actually SO close to death every time a car passes in speed in the opposite lane. Little things like sticking a skewer deep into your ear or nose will achieve the same effect. So the higher races have to keep tabs on the rest of us, evidently , for their OWN safety! Creation is indeed the ultimate mystery.
James, the answer is "no", according to the info provided. The chain reaction would not stop there. BTW, would you be so kind as to write us directly FIRST if you find fault with our translations instead of re-doing and publishing your own versions on your PAR list? And RE-INSERTING the errors of fact? This is a VERY VERY VERY serious mistake on your part.
Salome,
Dyson |
Isabellacoca
Member
Post Number: 63
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 25, 2006 - 06:14 am: |
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Which do you think will kill all humanity first? Global warming, ice age, violence, asteroids, pollution, or the killing of all plants?
Salome and love to all,
Isabella Coca
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Scott
Moderator
Post Number: 776
Registered: 12-1999
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 25, 2006 - 09:17 am: |
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Hi Isabella Coca,
About 9 years ago I asked Billy how the people of Malona/Phaethon could destroy their planet. I thought how could a civilization or group of people knowingly annihilate their own planet knowing that everything would be destroyed including themselves. He said it is the same as we are doing on earth, but just in a different way. It is not that these things you mention are killing us, but we are killing ourselves, and the things happening are the result of our own actions. I believe in the OM this is called self created punishment. We have violated natural creative laws (cause and effect) and now we are experiencing the results of our unnatural actions.
Regards
Scott |
Norm
Member
Post Number: 797
Registered: 02-2000
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 25, 2006 - 09:15 am: |
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Overpopulation is already killing Humanity! |
Isabellacoca
Member
Post Number: 64
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 25, 2006 - 09:51 am: |
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Hello Scott,
Thanks for the insight, which is very much true. In the Christians' Bible, it is said that humanity will be killed on their own. That humanity will kill each other off, and look what's happening now thus far. One of the most horrific ways to suffer is to live through global warming. We have caused global warming, not the earth itself and what the physical earth itself is made of, but us. We will be toast and we are already toast. And putting jelly or butter on our toasted bodies will not cool us off. Wait. I just had a thought, an idea cross my mind. What if we do the opposite of what's causing global warming? Going back to the Ice Age? Not all the way there, but reverse ourselves until the world is in neutral but livable weather for all species of earth? Maybe this is crazy, but even if we do calm down global warming, violence can no longer be stopped unless we make a worldwide speech telling all humans: beggining of my speech: Yes go on. Rob banks, rob your neighbors, hurt people, lie, cheat, kill each other off, instead of doing things so slowly. You want humanity to be killed so why don't you just finish the job and we'll be extinct? That's what you are doing. You might think if you kill one person, humanity is okay. But humanity is not ok because every single person will think that. If every single person kills one person, the world's population will be half. If each person kills two it will be half of a half. We are killing each other off. The problem is the serial killers are doing the job for us. Each person is supposed to kill one person or two but yet you got the common murderer doing it. It's not enough and yet you cry boohoo when somebody's dead. Stop the violence and humanity will survive. STOP THE VIOLENCE!! You think we can solve earthly problems like environmental pollution, global warming, etc. when you can't even agree who's going to get the last cracker in the box or who should get the television remote or the 'I'm better than you!' wAKE UP PEOPLE! When we have violence a minor problem worlwide then we can worry whether we'll taste good with jelly or butter once we're toast from global warming etc.
end of my speech.
Thank you everyone
Salome and love to all,
Isabella Coca
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Truthseeker
Member
Post Number: 150
Registered: 03-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 25, 2006 - 08:45 pm: |
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Greetings Sweet Isebella,
And I don't mean sweet like jelly on toast with butter.  Anyway as one person put it to me, Earth human beings are like frogs slowly being boiled in water. By the time the frog realizes the water has come to a boil, it's already to late for it to jump out.
Peace in being,
James Truthseeker |
Gaiaguysnet
Member
Post Number: 158
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 25, 2006 - 11:26 pm: |
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Dear friends,
We are not necessarily doomed at all, and simply assuming that we have no future is EXACTLY what the Powers That Be try to inculcate.
We have a bright collective future IF we collectively want it and individually WORK for it.
NOT if we lie down and accept a needless doom.
Indeed our ONLY future is a peaceful one. Get my drift?
The truth IS out there!
Salome,
Dyson |
Junior
Member
Post Number: 78
Registered: 12-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 26, 2006 - 12:22 am: |
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Dear Friends,
I would like to get your attention at a phenomenon that from reading and seen till now seems to be very true. If some one heard about it please comment.
A couple of weeks ago I got my hands on a documentary called Global Dimming, the report came on BBC (Horizon). (contact my email for more information of the documentary)-jr_ba@whoever.com
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sn/tvradio/programmes/horizon/dimming_prog_summary.shtml
I was stunned after seeing the report of this phenomenon; I was shocked and found it very hard to imagine the implications of this theory. The way I locked at global warming changed forever, because looking at only one side of the coin (global warming) will cause much more damage and sooner then we think. From what I saw is that humanity will need to recognize that there are two sides to this issue that will need to be addressed and balanced when finding a solution.
For more information just search the net, for a start check the below link…http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_dimming
Peace to all, and one Love
Junior
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Norm
Member
Post Number: 800
Registered: 02-2000
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 26, 2006 - 09:52 am: |
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Last week the show Nova on PBS did an Episode on Global Dimming. |
Isabellacoca
Member
Post Number: 67
Registered: 10-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 26, 2006 - 10:06 am: |
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Hello Junior,
I have checked out the link and read the information provided by wikipedia on global dimming. A few things are unclear to me such as some words they used which are at college level, but if I'm right, would you agree that global dimming is the opposite of global warming? It seems form the article that global dimming reduces sunshine and heat. If that's the case, we'll be a cold planet sooner or later.
Thanks,
Salome and love to all,
Isabella Coca
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Gaiaguysnet
Member
Post Number: 160
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 26, 2006 - 03:50 pm: |
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Hi all,
For what it's worth, Quetzal said on May 1st, 1988 (223rd Contact) that - if the greenhouse effect continues in the way it is going - all our glaciers and snow and ice fields are going to melt. Even Mount Everest will be ice-free (!) by 2030.
Be alarmed.
Be VERY alarmed.
And please be aware that it is obvious that frosty temperate countries like the USA, China, Russia, etc. are doing their damndest to promote global warming for the simple short-term, suicidal reason that it extends their brief growing seasons. Each frost-free day equates to millions of dollars of profit.
What you don't know can hurt you.
Salome,
Dyson |
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