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Adam
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Post Number: 24
Registered: 03-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 28, 2006 - 04:03 am: | 
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Hi,
From my experience I see there are a handful of doomsday wishers who would like to see America go down in flames and think that this is the solution to all the world's problems. However, more often than not these people are victims of the disinformation propaganda designed to take power away from the individual and hand it back to those criminals who have expediently planned these conflicts and wars for some time.
The solutions and changes to the current power structure will come when individuals are able to recognise the truth for themselves and realise that they are the government are not simply sheep following a false master.
Regards
Adam |
Tony
Member
Post Number: 24
Registered: 01-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 28, 2006 - 09:02 am: |
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“Scalar weapons are electromagnetic waves emitted through a specially constructed radio antenna”. Sounds like HAARP. Giga-watts of power are necessary for it to be effective. It’s hard to generate that kind of power inconspicuously. Exactly what does the so-called Russian “scalar weapon” consist of?"
Hi Jo_jo, I think there is a variety of different ways that Scalar weaponry can be used for. According to what I read on the net so far (not to say it is true), Scalar can be used to deliver things like nuclear sized explosions (which would need lots of giga watts of power to generate), to other things such as starting wild fires continents away (which can be generated with very little amount of giga watts of power). I don't know if its true that russia has the capability yet to use Scalar to generate nuclear sized explosions, but I do believe that russia has the capability and technology now how to use Scalar weaponry to start fires. I am more convinced of that now after yesterday when Dyson posted on Scalar in the translation section. I think it would be interesting to hear from Dyson on what he knows so far about Scalar weaponry.
"scalar weaponry can deliver nuclear-sized explosions that look for all the world like a regular nuclear blast, including the distinctive mushroom cloud, but without the radiation; and, scalar weaponry travels at the speed of light.............America will burn"
http://www.cuttingedge.org/NEWS/n1802.cfm |
Michael
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Post Number: 506
Registered: 10-2000
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 28, 2006 - 11:38 am: |
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Newintiation,
This is in the Hencoh Prophecies:
"And at this time, the possibility could become reality that extraterrestrial forces intervene against the Western industrialised countries, because these will be responsible for the extreme and enormous disaster of the coming evil times. These extraterrestrial forces will give up their anonymity and their state of secrecy and will assist those who are being terrorised by the irresponsibly acting Western countries, should this possibility become reality."
Michael Horn
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Jo_jo
Member
Post Number: 127
Registered: 04-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 28, 2006 - 12:11 pm: |
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Tony,
No one seems to be able to answer exactly what a "scalar" weapon consists of. It's always some of this and some of that, whatever fits the goal of the disinformation campaign. A bunch of BS baloney. I will glady change my mind when there is some peer reviewed scientific/technical literature published and explains what it is and how it operates in a logical, understandable way. You can readily find that information about HAARP, including the patents behind the process. Why not with "scalar" weapons? |
Apple
Member
Post Number: 9
Registered: 06-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 28, 2006 - 12:50 pm: |
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28th June
Look at this RIGHT ON FIGU's main sections:
www.figu.org/ us/ ufology/ haarp.htm
This written in 1997 by A. Meier..
HAARP is and has been up and running since 1997 !!!
Starting at 110 GIGAWATTS it is up graded to (about?) 500 GIGAWATTS - Check US official statements etc.. (and check web)
Checkout Earth disasters in general (daily) at:
http://home.att.net/~thehessians/disasterwatch.html
ALL THAT MEIER SAID IS NOW GOING ON ! |
Matt
Member
Post Number: 17
Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 28, 2006 - 01:45 pm: |
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if Scalar can start fires out on the fields, then wouldn't Scalar also be able to start fires to material inside buildings too, if Scalar operates by electromagnetic radio waves? |
Apple
Member
Post Number: 10
Registered: 06-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 28, 2006 - 09:21 pm: |
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SCALARS CAN DO IT ... |
Apple
Member
Post Number: 11
Registered: 06-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 28, 2006 - 10:01 pm: |
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There is Thomas Bearden and explains some scalar to a small extent.
Scalar is opposite to radio waves- and scalars are traveling in hyperspace as to be invisible until target is reached.
A violent electrical discharge makes scalar energy, also.
It is of extreme concern;
He said HAARP will destroy (damage) our DNA of earth life and blow a hole in the ozone forever and ever!
NO question ever was asked about this statement since 1998!
Meier says HAARP uses 'global vandalism'..stealing 'life energy from the earth' using it to create disasterous weather earthquakes; volcanoes; even disrupt the sun to get more ions to surround the earth to reflect more distruction for itself.
It is run (?) by the US navy..
He then says how HAARP goes by:
Transmitting 'energy waves' skyward; and then the result is 'electrical energy' cast to the Earth.
HAARP transmits behavior modification programs.
This started (?) about a couple of years past.
This is done (transmitted) through our infrastructure machines etc.. unnoticed by us; It is so pervasive you are always around it.
Read that HAARP is powered by HUGE ATOM SMASHERS under the earth
The history goes back to Philadelphia Experiment; MK Ultra; way back...Tesla, Einstein, Reich; von Neumann (invented the computer) and billions of dollars spent.
I read they utilize tachyon energy to do the evil deeds!
The HAARP patent is a complete hoax -they had the tech a long time - the Russians 'making weather' for the last 50 (at least) years.
Any body.. do COMMENT! |
Apple
Member
Post Number: 12
Registered: 06-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 28, 2006 - 10:21 pm: |
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RE: post # 127 of jo_jo:
I wish to comment:
The extent they go to hide information is fantastic:
There are (?) time equations by Sam Levinson (all books unavalable) that were used by HAARP etc.
You find me a real scientist today!
The last 'real scientists' Einstein, Reich van Neumann did their damn best to destroy our human race!
For what reason?
Einstein (I read) was basically a 'pupprt' placed by the powers that were at the time.
New evidence for this being found all the time. (search the web) It is not hard to find!
Reich was a shadowy figure - he might have been blackmailed - you won't find much of his many thousands of pages of work ever!
The powers that be are most upset by KNOWLEDGE BY PEACE BY EVOLUTION BY LOVE BY EQUALITY
They are scared of the common people... who they hate!
Because they are delusional puppets devoid of humanity!
We keep electing them! |
Newinitiation
Member
Post Number: 230
Registered: 07-2005
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 28, 2006 - 11:35 pm: |
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Dear Michael
Thanks Michael
The words 'hidden' I've mistakenly understood to mean, ETs like the Agarthians residing underground in various places on earth such as the Gobi desert etc
'anonymity and their state of secrecy' from how I understood didn't exactly sound like they were 'hidden'otherwise every other ETs that don't show themselves to terrestrials are according to this definition all 'hidden'
Anyway I was also wondering whether what Ptahh said about the possibility of contact with small groups came to fruition in recent times other than the core FIGU group members or if I am mistaken, he was refering to the actual face to face contact and real dialogue between ETs and regular terrestrial people other than FIGU core group but then again wasn't he talking about races other than theres?
But I also wonder with all the stories out there about military personnels having had face to face contact with ETs, whether there is any grain of truth to this, I guess we all realise why the Plejarens along with billy refrain from giving this out, I gather this may have to remain unknown for quite some time.
Would there be a possibility that the agarthian residing underground have had some contact with the terrestrials aboveground and whether their contact actually constitutes a hoax by the definition of contact that the Plejarens have and the minute genuine contacts people have with them amidst the plethora of lies is also considered a hoax?
Seeing as the contact conversations occured quite a number of years ago concerning the topic of 'real contact, has anything changed in recent times, are there any other ET races who resides on earth other than the agarthians?
In the contact conversations the Plejarens have left, other 3 ETs visit sporadically, some have bases midway from earth to their homeworld, some seldom visit because earth is uninteresting, some who are decendents of old ETs are not considered ETs any more otherwise every person alive on earth now would be considered an ET, It just gets a little confusing.
Seeing as yeasterday's flood in the US is considered one of the worst floods in memory, one can safely vouch that the henoch prophecies along with billy's and safth's is becoming ever more so clearer. The problems are definitely getting worse.
Saalome |
Tony
Member
Post Number: 25
Registered: 01-2006
| | Posted on Wednesday, June 28, 2006 - 11:58 pm: |
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Jo_jo, I understand and don't blame you for having skeptism there. I think it would be interesting to hear what Dyson has to say about Russia's Scalar weaponry because I remember a while ago Dyson saying something about his profession being directed somewhere in that field related to radio waves science's. This could be the reason why in the translation section, he said that it was Scalar weaponry that Ptaah was referring too when there was no mention of the name 'Scalar' in that contact note. |
Scott
Moderator
Post Number: 819
Registered: 12-1999
| | Posted on Thursday, June 29, 2006 - 12:40 pm: |
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Apple,
According to the Billy the Philadelphia Experiment was a legend.
Scott |
Apple
Member
Post Number: 13
Registered: 06-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, June 29, 2006 - 12:50 pm: |
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Hello Scott
I don't know how to EXACTLY say anything about this..
I wrote Gaiaguys about all this ...that Bulletin #56 and so on.
Meier was answering a question from a one: E. Meierhoff of Germany..
Take away the 'hoff.. you get E. Meier HA HA HA!
Any way you know what I wrote you as to my adventures with figu?
Write me back?
Strange ! |
Jo_jo
Member
Post Number: 128
Registered: 04-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, June 29, 2006 - 01:11 pm: |
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Apple,
Scalar is opposite to radio waves
If a radio wave is an electromagnetic wave with a given frequency (cycle of oscillation) and amplitude (magnitude or strength), what can possibly be the opposite of that?
and scalars are traveling in hyperspace to be invisible until target is reached.
How do scalars travel lin hyperspace? How do they exceed the speed of light? Are you aware of any new laws of physics being discovered?
Radio waves travel by line of sight through space at the speed of light and are invisible too. |
Apple
Member
Post Number: 14
Registered: 06-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, June 29, 2006 - 01:15 pm: |
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Scott - Meier said MOST important:
To take 'anyone's' word without examining in detail is just blind following of a GOD!
Agree that this would apply to all writings coming from HIM?
Meier is a master of hedging - spoken by a person: PTAAH.
Look once more:
That Bulletin # 56 German: Question about P.E. from a man called: E. MEIER - HOFF!
If Meier says this or that ..does that make it true right there?
There are WAY TOO MANY contradiction and opposite statements (check with Gaiaguys.net if you will) in the CONTACT NOTES for me or any to ignore.
It DOES fit in with Meier's desire that we find out everthing our own selves however!
You know that Gruesome Phila. Exp. Should have been a legend in my view! |
Apple
Member
Post Number: 16
Registered: 06-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, June 29, 2006 - 07:24 pm: |
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TO: jo_jo:
Listen; I sure do not KNOW all there is to !
My pal; Does it hurt to check out Bearden;s website? - its a BIG ONE - but will kinda present info that you MIGHT ACCEPT - accept also, that science is crimped and cut down - dumbed down for the purpose of controlling the masses!
Yes prepare yourself for MANY NEW 'laws' of science (let's say)!
I was surprised - and madder 'n a wet hen - when I found out how we are KEPT DUMMER THAN YOU WANT TO KNOW!
Note too, this site smells like a dis-information one to me!
Proceed with caution!
That was GREAT though - MIERHOFF ! HA HA HA HA !!!
Meier said (I'm beginner German) that: Advanced Math is very primitive..
So we could use a nice shot of EVOLUTION - FOR EVERYONE AYE? |
Apple
Member
Post Number: 17
Registered: 06-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, June 29, 2006 - 07:40 pm: |
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to; poster: jo_jo:
Once more - Look up whatever you can find about these ENERGY faster than light particles: TACHYONS
That will kick start the damn 'new laws' thing - accept them )our scientists) saying these things exist -they exceed light speed by lots and carry or are ENERGY exactly!
Our scientists say ALL that - NOW WHAT NEW LAWS ARE THERE?
because right there - that admission invalidates pure wave traveling as the only way - and also opens HYPERSPACE CONCEPTS - but then what does hyperspace mean?
They sure might not know andmight not be telling now!
Meier gave that answer before in a contact note..or ask again..for every body!
Scientists also support concept of hyperspace RIGHT?
All questions answered - roughly - finally these scientists will not put any of this info together to come to any logical NEW conclusion now, WILL THEY? |
Apple
Member
Post Number: 18
Registered: 06-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, June 29, 2006 - 08:05 pm: |
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jo_jo post # 128:
first question's reply:
I GUESS a scalar is pretty opposite right? But check with Bearden's website also.
Second question's reply:
Scalars travel in hyperspace in hyperspace-time (Tachyons go faster than light right?)
the NEW LAWS WERE DISCOVERED WAY BACK man!
your and my textbooks are full of lies!
Look into the possibility (anyway) of our being kept disinformed and this is a major goal of the-powers that are in charge right?
EM waves travel line of sight?
N. Tesla said no, they travel no different than a sound wave as in talking to another person..they travel (really) as a ground wave - more like all of it is a VIBRATION..read Tesla...he was so sure
about this!
The full energy is in that ground wave with us still using antennas in our primitive views!
This is the power of HAARP also, since they utilize that there secret knowledge. |
Matt
Member
Post Number: 18
Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Thursday, June 29, 2006 - 10:00 pm: |
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if Scalar is also able to start fire to materials inside buildings too as out on the fields, then does this mean that Scalar can set fire to a whole cities buildings in a moments flash and achieve nearly the same level of total damage to a city that a nuclear bomb would?? Is what is meant by "America will burn!" |
Apple
Member
Post Number: 19
Registered: 06-2006
| | Posted on Friday, June 30, 2006 - 12:25 pm: |
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HELLO
TO COMMENT ON MATT'S POST #18:
HAARP (READ THE STORY BY ED. MEIER: HAARP - A RECKLESS EXPERIMENT) TO FIND OUT THAT ALL OF YOUR STATEMENTS ARE SO TRUE!
America needs to house 100,000 'elected' criminals right now
in a prison!
with kind regards; Apple |
Hector
Member
Post Number: 68
Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Friday, June 30, 2006 - 03:38 pm: |
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I never gave a damn about Scalar weaponry and Haarp,but this discussion raised my curiosity...i found a great link that explained me quite well the principles of Scalar weapons.The whole webpage is pure genius,i advice to read about quantum physicist David Bohm too.
http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~sai/Beard_wmod.htm#engineering
Tom Bearden is also famous for being the " discoverer" of something called Zero Point Electron Energy,or something like that,a revolutionary energy source... |
Hector
Member
Post Number: 69
Registered: 04-2006
| | Posted on Friday, June 30, 2006 - 04:36 pm: |
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For those like me who thought Hyperspace was just a Playstation2 game:
http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~sai/hypereal.htm#Mathematics
Cheers. |
Gaiaguysnet
Member
Post Number: 271
Registered: 03-2004
| | Posted on Friday, June 30, 2006 - 05:04 pm: |
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http://www.wanttoknow.info/060630newenergyvideodocumentary |
