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Watchdog
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Post Number: 128
Registered: 12-2014
| | Posted on Sunday, February 12, 2017 - 04:07 am: | 
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Stardust.
A lie is a lie.
They don't get any less wrong with the passage of time.
The first person to step foot on the moon isn't who we think it is.
A lie is a lie.
Apollo 13 was a lie as well. Thats when they put the lander on the moon that has an 11 on it because they knew Russia or China would go there someday and look for the lander.
David AKA Watchdog. USA
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Kenneth
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Post Number: 574
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Sunday, February 12, 2017 - 12:32 pm: |
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Stardustwilly,
You’re correct, “why all the worry”? Well, the apprehension and uneasiness about this event does not really matter anymore; there were less than twenty people that were involved and knew what actually happened. All the rest of NASA, along with the rest of the world was duped as well. The fraud has been exposed as much as possible. It doesn’t matter if additional frauds are exposed regarding this particular event; it will always be spun as a conspiracy theory.
Kenneth
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Kenneth
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Post Number: 575
Registered: 04-2013
| | Posted on Friday, February 17, 2017 - 05:58 am: |
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FYI,
Talked to a friend (RB) again about this Apollo-11 incident; this is what was said:
"Kenneth,
Yeah, this basically supports what little knowledge I had gained when I was in Bethpage, LI, NY, auditing the Grumman Aerospace and Fairchild Republic plants for OSI and came across a full-scale replica of the Lunar surface in a huge climate-controlled hanger. My curiosity questions went unanswered and I was quickly escorted from the area. This episode was mentioned in a side-note of my report but the silence was deafening and I never pursued what I saw.
RB"
Kenneth |
Norm
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Post Number: 60
Registered: 12-2016
| | Posted on Friday, February 17, 2017 - 02:34 pm: |
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The BBC has Wendelle’s Stevens photos on Billy & the Plejarens case.
The strange photographs used to ‘prove’ conspiracy theories
http://www.bbc.com/culture/story/20170216-five-photographs-used-to-prove-conspiracy-theories |
Hugo
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Post Number: 346
Registered: 04-2015
| | Posted on Friday, February 17, 2017 - 10:53 pm: |
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The BBC is fake, not the Meier case! |
Norm
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Post Number: 61
Registered: 12-2016
| | Posted on Saturday, February 18, 2017 - 01:22 pm: |
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Do Nasa Moon pictures with SAME background prove Apollo landings were FAKE?
http://www.express.co.uk/news/weird/769062/Moon-landings-hoax-Apollo-15-pictures-SAME-background |
Matthew
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Post Number: 144
Registered: 03-2011
| | Posted on Sunday, April 23, 2017 - 09:16 am: |
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Apollo 13 and evidence that supports CR 527
Why it took 32 hours for NASA to go from Wake Island to Hawaii...
When Billy asks Ptaah in 2011 to explain the six moon landings, referred to 53 years earlier, Ptaah explained that, rather than fail due to an accident, Apollo 13 had landed on the moon so that the objects representing the first failed Apollo 11 moon landing could be put in place. Ptaah explained that Apollo 13's splashdown time happened later than was reported worldwide.
Ptaah also mentions "over-dubbed fraudulent images" and other lies that he will speak no more about in that CR, leaving us tantalising clues to investigate further.
Anomalies in the official Journey time
Apollo 13 was about 205,000 miles from Earth when the capsule "accident", resp. the explosion, occurred. The mission had been running for 55 hours and 55 minutes (1) (2) by that time. In April 1970, the moon was between 226,735 - 229,580 miles from Earth, so, Apollo 13 was less than 25,000 miles from the moon when the "accident" happened (3). NASA had already committed to returning the Apollo 13 astronauts to Earth, at around 6pm UTC, as reported on 14th April by the BBC that stated at the time, "If all goes to plan Apollo 13 is due to splash down at approximately 1900 BST on Friday 17 April" (4).
Here we have our first anomaly: If the "accident" occurred at around 56 hours into the mission and the CSM was only about 25,000 miles away from the moon, why did it take an additional 90 (146 - 56) hours to go round the moon and return to Earth? This is made more incredible by the fact that the CSM would have sped up to around 5000 mph as it approached the moon, due to the moon's gravity. It takes around 2 hours for a command module to orbit the moon (5), regardless of mass. Based in the following rough calculation: 205,000 miles / 56 hours = 3,660.71 miles per hour, the remaining 25,000 miles to the moon would have taken around 7 hours as 25,000 / 3,660.71 mph = 6.8 hours. As the total mission time is officially just under 146 hours, why did it take 81.2 hours to get to the Earth after circumventing the moon? This leaves a window of 18.4 hours for Apollo 13 to land on the moon, put the objects in place and take off again as Ptaah stated. Only a landing of the moon (or previously unmentioned breaks on Apollo 13) explains why Apollo 13 did not return to the Earth much earlier because it had not stopped or decelerated around the moon, but, had, in fact, fired its DPS engine for momentum back to Earth and sped up as it approached the moon to the moon's gravity.
How the Splashdown Time could have misrepresented
Apollo 13's post-flight press conference happened on 21st April and the astronauts were reunited with their families on American Samoa on the 18th, April 1970. Therefore, if the length of the mission had been under-reported, the most this could have been for was around 24 hours. The official time of the splashdown, according to different time zones, is as follows (6):
UTC 18:07:41 Universal Coordinated Time
GMT 18:07:41 (UTC) Greenwich Mean Time
EST 13:07:41 (UTC-5) Eastern Standard Time
CST 12:07:41 (UTC-6) Central Standard Time
PST 10:07:41 (UTC-8) Pacific Standard Time
BST 07:07:41 (UTC+11) Bougainville Standard Time
WAKT 06:07:41 (UTC+12) Wake [Islands] Time
MHT 06:07:41 (UTC+12) Marshall Islands Time
A crew member from USS Iwo Jima (LPH 2) who was serving on the ship on 17th April, 1970, confirmed to me in writing that, "Apollo 13 Splashdown was at noon, April 17th, Uss Iwo Jima time." In practice, USS nautical times are used only for radio communication, etc. Aboard the ship, e.g. for scheduling work and meal times, the ship may use a suitable time of its own choosing. The captain is permitted to change his or her clocks at a chosen time following the ship's entry into another time zone, typically at midnight. Ships on long-distance passages change time zone on board in this fashion. On short passages the captain may not adjust clocks at all, even if they pass through different time zones, for example between the UK and continental Europe. Passenger ships often use both nautical and on-board time zones on signs (7). So, the Captain of the USS Iwo Jima would have had plenty of opportunities to confuse its crew about what the actual splashdown time really was.
Location anomalies
When looking into where the command module splashed down, different coordinates emerge: Wikipedia puts it at 21°38S, 165°21W southeast of Samoa, 6.5 km from the USS Iwo Jima (8). NASA states that the splashdown occurred at 21.63°S, 165.37°W
(9). The following map shows the splashdown being indicated in handwriting as 15°66'55"S, 166°00' W: http://www.history.nasa.gov/alsj/a13/a13SDmap.jpg
The differing coordinates seem strange for such an important event and as the USS Iwo Jima was reported to be only four to six miles away from the splashdown site. Plotted, using timezonedb.com, all the coordinates show the local time zone as WAKT = UTC+12. This would therefore mean that the splashdown happened at 06:07:41 local time as the official splashdown was at 18:07:41 UTC.
Position of the sun in official photos
We know from official reports that the crew of Apollo 13 were retrieved by helicopter and aboard the USS Iwo Jima in only 45 minutes after splashdown. Sunrise on the 18th April, 1970 in the WAKT timezone was at 06:34 am and Nautical sunrise was at 05:46. (10). So if the capsule splashed down when there was twilight but no sunlight, how do NASA explain the following photographs (Note the position of the sun reflected off the raft and the shadow inside the bucket)?
Also note the position of the sun in these photos:
http://www.jsc.nasa.gov/jscfeatures/photos/Apollo13_35th/s70-35652.jpg
http://www.jsc.nasa.gov/jscfeatures/photos/Apollo13_35th/S70-35638.jpg
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/26/a1/ab/26a1abaf94a87a73e3babcd303b51fb2.jpg
http://www.jsc.nasa.gov/jscfeatures/photos/Apollo13_35th/s70-35652.jpg
Many of Apollo 13's splashdown photos appear washed out, like this. Did NASA bleach out these photos to hide the position of the sun? Compare TV footage of the splashdown, with this photo of Apollo 10's splashdown. Could it be that NASA used footage from other Apollo mission Splashdowns?
Missing time in NASA's official timeline.
In the following official timeline of the Apollo 13 from NASA, we find evidence that support's Ptaah's statement that, “...the time of the return to Earth was also falsified, consequently the total time of the mission did not amount to 143 hours, i.e. a few minutes less than 6 full days, as was claimed, rather quite some time more.” In the following link: http://history.nasa.gov/SP-4029/Apollo_13h_Timeline.htm
Note the following two entries in NASA'a official timeline:
Crew departed recovery ship for Samoa and then Hawaii. 167:07 18:20 18 Apr 1970
Crew arrived in Hawaii. 199:22 02:35 19 Apr 1970
Why did it take over 32 hours for the astronauts to depart from the USS Iwo Jima and arrive in Hawaii, unless Ptaah was correct and the real splashdown time was much later than reported?
Salome,
Matt |
Hugo
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Post Number: 379
Registered: 04-2015
| | Posted on Sunday, April 23, 2017 - 03:37 pm: |
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Matthew, good post! |
Matthew
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Post Number: 144
Registered: 03-2011
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 26, 2017 - 03:42 pm: |
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Thanks Hugo.
Would really appreciate if others could check the information in my post and feedback/challenge as there will, no doubt, be errors, but, there are many anomalies to the official Apollo 13 story.
The USS Iwo Jima crew member (verified) I wrote to said that he had to "hand cancel 870,000 envelopes with the time, day, month & year". Imagine doing that and keeping track of time/days. Time-zones can be difficult to keep track of and are confusing and a day is behind or in front of the other parts of the world depending on where you are in the world and how fast you travel.
Salome,
Matt |
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