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Kiril
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Post Number: 156
Registered: 12-2005
Posted on Wednesday, November 29, 2006 - 07:17 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Mgilbo1,
"Most of the scientists that did the work are not in the public eye and never will be known until many years into the future."
Is it possible that you share some of those names of important scientists - I am continually studying the history of science - and looking for 'heroes' in the process.

One recent example of such a hero found, is a man named: Charles Proteus Steinmetz - whom in my reading of his work has opened my eyes to new applications of mathematics and methods of thought in both philosophy and science!

Cheers,
Kiril
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Edward
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Post Number: 694
Registered: 05-2002
Posted on Thursday, November 30, 2006 - 01:09 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Mark and Vestri...

I do remember the Plejarans mentioning that much concerning Tesla was
exaggerated...to some extent.

And I would agree, that he was more an 'Experimentalist' than a true
Recognized Scientist. But he may have had great 'input'...for further future
researches, in what ever familiar field.


Edward.
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Rarena
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Post Number: 114
Registered: 10-2005
Posted on Thursday, November 30, 2006 - 08:42 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Vestri,

Telsa was mentioned by Billy Meier as a "normal" scientist because the question was asked whether he was a contactee or not.


Tschüs... Love to all...

rarena ōæō

Ancient Lyrian coded to Earth peace meditation:
Saalome gam naan ben uurda, gan njjber asaala hesporoona.


Please see here for correct pronunciation: http://www.theyfly.com/salome/salome.htm

English:
Peace be on Earth, and among all beings.
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Jakes
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Post Number: 27
Registered: 10-2006
Posted on Thursday, November 30, 2006 - 11:08 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Posted on Thursday, May 27, 2004 - 05:02 am:

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Hello Billy,

Greetings from Jacob
I have a question about Nikola Tesla.
What is the opinion of the Plejarens about Nikola Tesla and his inventions? Was he on the right way ?
Should his inventions be developed further as a source of truly clean and free enery ?

Salome,

Answer

He was a "normal" scientist. He didn't have all the extraordinary capabilities that were imputed to him.

All inventions should be developed towards good goals, because in this way progress is guaranteed.

If the information of "truly clean and free energy" is true, then any improvement and further development is important.


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Jakobjn
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Newinitiation
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Post Number: 297
Registered: 07-2005
Posted on Saturday, December 02, 2006 - 12:41 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Exaggerated or not I still think that he has made great contributons to science and to society in general.
Were it not for him, maybe others would have filled his place in history but nonetheless he was a worthy vehicle for the plejarens to send impulse telepathy to and seeing as much advances in sciences were due to the plejaren impulses, I gather that they should've been the ones who we need to thank alas I can understand why billy said

Answer

He was a "normal" scientist. He didn't have all the extraordinary capabilities that were imputed to him.

Cheers
Matt
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Jakes
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Post Number: 34
Registered: 10-2006
Posted on Saturday, December 02, 2006 - 07:46 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Matt,

Just curious, where was it reported that Tesla was a Plejaran impulse contactee? I’ve never seen that before.
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Jakes
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Post Number: 35
Registered: 10-2006
Posted on Saturday, December 02, 2006 - 07:56 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Matt,

Is this what you’re referring to:

Tesla related in his autobiography that he experienced detailed moments of inspiration. During his early life, Tesla was stricken with illness time and time again. He suffered a peculiar affliction in which blinding flashes of light would appear before his eyes, often accompanied by hallucinations. Much of the time the visions were linked to a word or idea he might come across; just by hearing the name of an item, he would involuntarily envision it in realistic detail. Modern-day synesthetes report similar symptoms. Tesla would visualise an invention in his brain in precise form before moving to the construction stage; a technique which is sometimes known as picture thinking.

Source: Wikipedia
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Newinitiation
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Post Number: 307
Registered: 07-2005
Posted on Sunday, December 03, 2006 - 12:29 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

g'day jakes

just look in the meier bibliography section from gaiaguys.net

There is treasure trove of info regarding impulse telepathic contactees among many others

cheers
Matt
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Jakes
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Post Number: 53
Registered: 10-2006
Posted on Thursday, January 11, 2007 - 10:25 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

More evidence that the prophecy of the third world fire is becoming a prediction:

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Defense Secretary Robert Gates called on Thursday for a permanent boost in the size of the Army and Marine Corps, the military branches most strained by Iraq, at a likely cost of $15 billion a year.

Gates recommended that President George W. Bush add 92,000 troops to the two services over five years, bringing the Army to 547,000 soldiers and the Marine Corps to 202,000 service members.


from Contact 251:

The world war will begin in November of a specific year, after 5 years of intensive effort are spent reaching this goal which is preceded by 4 years of unspecified preparations.
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Peter_brodowski
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Post Number: 263
Registered: 01-2004
Posted on Thursday, January 11, 2007 - 04:20 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

hey jakes,
but this robert gates merely called for it, the question is that is it happening, happend or going to happen (this growth in troops)?
or is any effort towards military might considered an intensive effort in regards to that prophecy?
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Jakes
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Post Number: 54
Registered: 10-2006
Posted on Thursday, January 11, 2007 - 07:42 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hello Peter,

Yes, you are right. The troop build-up would have to materialize in order for the prophecy to become a prediction. We'll soon see if that happens, won't we. Next month the Pentagon budget proposal for 2008 will come out. From that we'll see if there's another increase in spending for weapons. Hopefully things cool down before we get to the point of no return, but I'd say it doesn't look promising right now.
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Jakes
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Post Number: 56
Registered: 10-2006
Posted on Wednesday, January 17, 2007 - 01:10 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

More "evidence" of the third world fire becoming a prediction?

Nuclear, Climate Perils Push Doomsday Clock Ahead

the Reuters article is here:
http://today.reuters.com/news/articlenews.aspx?type=newsOne&storyID=2007-01-17T175700Z_01_N17314370_RTRUKOC_0_US-DOOMSDAY-CLOCK.xml&src=011707_1339_ARTICLE_PROMO_also_on_reuters
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Arie
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Post Number: 21
Registered: 02-2006
Posted on Wednesday, January 17, 2007 - 05:00 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

> A good movie on this topic is "An Inconvenient Truth" w Al Gore

Not a bad flick for a main-stream group of people.

cheers, Arie
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Jakes
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Post Number: 63
Registered: 10-2006
Posted on Wednesday, January 24, 2007 - 05:30 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

U.S. eyes heat-beaming weapon by 2010

Wed Jan 24, 2007 7:00pm ET
By Jim Wolf

MOODY AIR FORCE BASE, Georgia (Reuters) - The U.S. Defense Department on Wednesday unveiled what it called a revolutionary heat-beaming weapon that could be used to control mobs or repel foes in conflicts like Iraq and Afghanistan.

The so-called Active Denial System causes an intense burning sensation causing people to run for cover, but no lasting harm, officials said.

"This is a breakthrough technology that's going to give our forces a capability they don't now have," Theodore Barna, an assistant deputy undersecretary of defense for advanced systems and concepts, told Reuters. "We expect the services to add it to their tool kit. And that could happen as early as 2010."

The weapon, mounted on a Humvee, uses a large rectangular dish antenna to direct an invisible beam toward a target. It includes a high-voltage power unit and beam-generating equipment and is effective at more than 500 meters.

Existing counter-personnel systems designed not to kill -- including bean bag munitions and rubber bullets -- work at little more than "rock-throwing distances," said Marine Col. Kirk Hymes, director of the Pentagon's Joint Non-Lethal Weapons Directorate.

In increasingly complex military operations, the technology provided a much-needed alternative to just going from "shouting to shooting," said Hymes, who is responsible for the weapon's five-year, $60 million advanced development.

Variations of the system could help in peacetime and wartime missions, including crowd control and mob dispersal, checkpoint security and port protection, officials said. It could also help in conflicts like Iraq and Afghanistan.

Raytheon Co., which has worked to develop the technology, has built a prototype called Silent Guardian, that it hopes to sell in the United States and abroad in what could become a multibillion market.

The weapon was shown off publicly for the first time at Moody Air Force Base in Georgia, where it has been undergoing operational tests by the 820th Security Forces Group, which protects Air Force assets.

The directorate invited reporters to be zapped as part of what its spokeswoman, Marine Maj. Sarah Fullwood, called an effort to "demystify" the technology at issue.

At a distance of several football fields, the sensation from the exposure was like a blast from a very hot oven, too painful to bear without scrambling for cover.

The burning sensation is achieved by high-power energy waves that heat the skin to 130 degrees Fahrenheit. The pain ended as soon as the target jumped from the line of fire.

Documents given out during the demonstration said more than 10,000 people had been exposed to the weapon since testing began more than 12 years ago. They said there had been no injuries requiring medical attention during the five-year advanced development program.

© Reuters 2007. All Rights Reserved.




The U.S. Defense Department unveiled January 24, 2007 what it described as a revolutionary heat-beaming weapon that could be used to repel foes in conflict zones like Iraq and Afghanistan as early as 2010. The weapon was mounted on a jeep-like, multi-wheeled military utility vehicle known as a Humvee. REUTERS/Handout
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Jo_jo
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Post Number: 221
Registered: 04-2003
Posted on Thursday, January 25, 2007 - 09:59 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Mine's bigger than yours!

mine's bigger than yours

The so-called "scalar" weapon. Source unknown.
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Gaiaguysnet
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Post Number: 467
Registered: 03-2004
Posted on Friday, January 26, 2007 - 05:40 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Don't be silly, Jo_jo! :-)

Why would scalar weapons - they are (longitudinally polarized elecromagnetic) interferometers, after all, so of course you need two of them - be above ground???

This is a rhetorical question. Let's not argue, please, because you are way out of your technical depth, and your views are very dogmatic on this.

www.gaiaguys.net/meierv8p447-8.htm

Peace in wisdom,
Dyson
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Jo_jo
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Post Number: 221
Registered: 04-2003
Posted on Friday, January 26, 2007 - 09:33 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Oh yeah, right, Dyson. You are eminently qualified to comment on the existence of “new weapons” from your background as an Air Force technician cooking himself with RF transmitter power in order to stay warm. And in the drawing, to the right side, don’t you see the “wiring” to the other device? Conveniently overlooked that one, didn’t we? As for the rest of the “equipment”, for whatever reason it is not in view. Like I said, I’m not exactly sure of the source, but I think the drawing actually comes from your guru’s own book, you know, that shut-in troll with the bad teeth, Bearden. The guy that spins this “scalar weapons” fantasy for $$$. Yet his free energy device still isn’t in production. How come? Yeah, right, the big, bad conspiracy boys must be stopping that one too. Dyson, you have much, much more invested in your dogmatic positions than I. Good luck defending them. Or, instead, just let them go and set yourself free.

And no, I am not a:

Pedophile
Freemason
CIA
Illuminati
FBI
Rosicrucian
NSA
Bafath
Scull & Bones
Mossad
Etc
Etc
Etc

In fact, I would welcome the Plejarans to monitor or scan my thoughts, intentions and actions. How about you?
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Jakes
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Post Number: 63
Registered: 10-2006
Posted on Saturday, January 27, 2007 - 09:39 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hello Dyson,

I am not the policeman here, however I just point out you seem quick to criticize, dismiss and ridicule anyone that has an opinion contrary to your's. You also seem to be a person with a wealth of information about the Meier case, and your position as alpha-dog on this forum appears secure. I just don't understand your need to be so harsh and critical with people. Everyone seems able to give you latitude to express your opinion without harsh judgment, why can't you just do the same? Such behavior seems to go against the intentions of the Fig. Just my two cents.

Peace and best regards.

Jakes
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Vestri
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Post Number: 77
Registered: 02-2006
Posted on Saturday, January 27, 2007 - 01:55 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Jo_jo "....but I think the drawing actually comes from your guru’s own book, you know, that shut-in troll with the bad teeth, Bearden. The guy that spins this “scalar weapons” fantasy for $$$."


Hi Jo_jo, I don't see how Tom Bearden can simply be some guru spinning some “scalar weapons” fantasy for $$$ or otherwise if he is teaching/lecturing Physicists at various universities on the theory/mechanics of EM-Scalar? Have you seen this 1990 Bearden video below called Radionics? It was done at some U.S. university to a room full of the U.S.'s up and coming best Physicists. Bearden talks indepth on the mechanics AND some practical applications (plenty of diagrams) of the so-called EM-Scalar wave theory and no-one in that room questioned it. Again I don't see how Tom Bearden can simply be some guru spinning some “scalar weapons” fantasy for $$$ if he is teaching/lecturing Physicists at various universities on it?


Radionics - Action at a Distance (Tom.Bearden) (1990)

http://video.google.com.au/videoplay?docid=6926340061102418615&q=radionics
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Gaiaguysnet
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Post Number: 474
Registered: 03-2004
Posted on Saturday, January 27, 2007 - 04:17 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dear Jo_jo & Jakes,

I try to inform those who are unwittingly making fools of themselves (or their pusillanimous cryptonyms!) through manifest ignorance of their ignorance. Scalar weaponry is a technically abstruse subject to say the least, but – since their radiation is not impeded by matter – it seems illogical that they would be exposed to scrutiny and attack on the surface. And their "wiring", as illustrated, is preposterous to anyone who has ever seen a high power military electronics unit!

And Bearden, like Meier, is underestimated at one's peril.

Bad teeth, no teeth, physical deformities, amputations, etc., or even bad manners, no manners, or even no sense doesn’t preclude my caring interactions with different people. That’s one of the ways I learn and allow my consciousnesses to unfold. I prefer illogical and ill-motivated attacks any day to mindless sycophancy.

Jo_jo writes, “…don’t you see the “wiring” to the other device? Conveniently overlooked that one, didn’t we?”

As I wrote, “ … they are (longitudinally polarized electromagnetic) interferometers, after all, so of course YOU NEED TWO OF THEM.” That means, two of them. It takes two to tango with interferometers. If you wonder why overunity devices are not on the shelves, the answer lies in the list you have compiled.

An aspect of the Christian falsifications of Jmmanuel’s teachings, to which I never fell victim, is the avoidance of making harsh judgments.

I don’t intend to get into a degrading jejune sarcastic slanging match here, nor do I intend to act the alpha dog here. If I am the monkey at the top of the tree here, it is only by default, not by design, and I’m aware that I expose my backside to all those below. But I do have a responsibility to TRY to correct simple errors of fact to the best of my limited ability when they lie within an area of my expertise, whether these errors are deliberate or not. If not for the writers, then for their readers.

If anyone wants to take me on with acts instead of just words, please drop in for a visit and I’ll break your nose for you.

I would have no compunctions against anybody reading my thoughts, and I would have thought that sharing them (and my real identity!) as fully as I do here would be evidence of that.

Salome,
Dyson
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Eric_drouin
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Post Number: 149
Registered: 05-2004
Posted on Saturday, January 27, 2007 - 05:30 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Board members:

Please read the the following article

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=IVA20070124&articleId=4581

What the article does not mention is the domino effect that will happen, if W. the moron gives the go-ahead. Think about Pakistan for a minute.

Please Perform Peace meditation
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Hector
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Post Number: 187
Registered: 04-2006
Posted on Sunday, January 28, 2007 - 05:55 am:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Just say that my concept of using harsh language means anybody who considers himself a "truthbringer" (which is a very subjective term) can use that tool to battle and confront some topics, subjects related to "absolute truths" like adhering to creational law, non violence, religion, warmongering, spiritual teachings...etc.
Mistakes in these vital fields of knowledge should be avoided at any cost, and harsh language makes people acknowledge their mistakes.

I can't see usefullness of harsh language in technical matters like scalar weapons.This is certainly not an objective topic.Who of us has ever seen a scalar weapon.Who of us has ever seen the yeti...? Does he exist? Such topic of scalar science is a "relative" truth because these pseudo-science is now not official neither has been disclosed.There are no scientific authorities here, as this entirely remains a secret.Even Billy responds "i don't know" questions related to this kind of weapons.

So the tool of hard language is not intended to be used everytime, everywhere....(just the right amount, the right dose....) There is a scientist who discovered this in the field of virology 130 years ago...a certain Louis Pasteur...

-Vaccines can heal you.
-Vaccines can kill you.

To inject the exact amount of viral load is necessary here, like in the case of using harsh language.You may cause more harm than good.Dyson in this case is causing more harm than good here.(Cause&Effect).Time is not ripe to speak about scalar like an authority.

I used to discuss religion with cacholics.At first i thought that they were profiting from my rudeness, but no, i realized i was just upseting them.Time was not ripe for them to listen to "absolute truths".I caused more harm than good, too, and that was not my intention ...

Kind regards
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Jakes
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Post Number: 64
Registered: 10-2006
Posted on Sunday, January 28, 2007 - 02:18 pm:   Edit Post Print Post    Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dyson said:

If anyone wants to take me on with acts instead of just words, please drop in for a visit and I’ll break your nose for you.

Any you were threatened by whom?

And FIGU moderators, you're okay with that? Is that what this forum has become, a gladiator pit?

Jakes,

This has been going on for sometime, before you joined the forum. If you read Jo_Jo's original comment, I think you might agree he was a little on the heavy handed side in responding to Dyson's remark....Perhaps Dyson was using the example in the contact notes when Eduard punched Jitschi in the nose for his uncontrollable behavior when Jmmanuel approached..

Scott

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