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    Alan Member Post Number: 85 Registered: 06-2006 |
Hi Rarena/Randy, I hope you don't mind, but just out of curiosity, are you male or female? | ||
Rarena Member Post Number: 152 Registered: 10-2005 |
Hi Alan, My name is Randy Arena, hence Rarena, did not capitalize my last name. My sex is male sorry for any misdirection that may have occured. Randy ô¿ô | ||
Rarena Member Post Number: 157 Registered: 10-2005 |
Have been researching various plants that prevent conception on the internet. It seems to me, by educating the people on herbal birth control would seem a start in the right direction. With that in mind: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&safe=off&q=plant+prevents+conception&btnG=Search | ||
Edward Member Post Number: 718 Registered: 05-2002 |
Hi Rarena.... I also did a web search, and I came across a link(see if I can still find it - bookmark), and it mentioned Herbs that were utilized for ages! In Europe as well as in Asia. There were 2 common plants, which were very good it it's working, but alas, they had very BAD Side-effects. It seems that, it can damage certain origins in the human body, when taken without proper measurements: liver, kidney...and so forth. So, there is a limit...in how long, or how random, One...can take the herbs into One's body. Taking too much at a time only POISONS the (female)body. So, it is being utilized TODAY...in some countries, but because of it's side- effects: it is not being utilized in greater scale. But of course, only the 2 most known, were mentioned. I doubt, that it would be related to the plants/herbs...which was mentioned by family, here. (still have not had the possibility to gather information) Edward. | ||
Rarena Member Post Number: 178 Registered: 10-2005 |
Thanks for checking Edward. These natives in the Amazonian Jungle say there are no ill effects using their plant for birth control. This may be a myth but none-the-less the plant deserves some further study by qualified or passionate persons... scientific types anyway, maybe an alkaloid will be obtained that will do the trick. After re-reading Bulletin 10 Billy mentioned the sustainable planetary population ratio of people to land of Earth is 25% less than 529 million previously mentioned and the new sustainable population is now around 396 million population per usable land on Earth. We are well over seven B I L L I O N and counting... Exponentialy out of whack. | ||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 444 Registered: 07-2005 |
Hello forum Does this mean its not a problem? The projection are at best a poor estimate http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?chanId=sa003&articleId=09E07C6F-E7F2-99DF-3AD087F0DA77D94F | ||
Rarena Member Post Number: 185 Registered: 10-2005 |
According to Billy overpopulation IS the main problem. Not sure what the Scientific American article was for... My reference to being out of whack meant in comparison to what the Plejaren say is allowed for a sustainable planet... now around 396 million people. In 1900 it was 529 million but now 25% less or 396 million due to the effects of overpopulation on the Earth. It is a GREAT PROBLEM and by using thought projection into the future... it could be much more serious. | ||
Newinitiation Member Post Number: 453 Registered: 07-2005 |
Oh Sorry Randy My comment was in reference to this stupid article. I mean why tinker with the idea of these various projections when they haven't even got the correct population figure for the present which is 1 billion short of the Plejaren figure. Sure you could forgive them getting it wrong but my point is that such article have this nefarious ways of diverting attention away from the core issue of the problems of overpopulation but instead it's a subtle condoning of population rise as being acceptable considering the aging population figures. cheers Matt | ||
Mike_hooten Member Post Number: 20 Registered: 11-2006 |
Hi Everyone, This is just a description of the next posting below. Below is an extremely shortened version of a long long essay i have been working on over the years called "life standards". Each of you i am sure have noticed the wide disparity in the wealth consumed by your fellow countrymen. Sometimes the wealth owned by one family is far beyond the necessary (a 6000 sq foot home and a 50,000$ car) and sometimes it is far below the necessary (a 600 sq foot home and a500 $ car always breaking down.). I am sure each of you has asked yourself what the minimum standard should be for a family of 4 to live a decent life. I too have thought about this, almost every day and i have over the years developed an extensive list of what i believe are the minimum standards of wealth required for a family of 4 to have a decent life. Such a list is critical for the advancement of our society because it, if true, defines a target that we all can strive for. Most importantly it will allow us to objectively compute the real population limits of the earth, based upon the eradication of poverty and substandard lifestyles. Some of the standards can be stated in the negative: For instance, "The Family should never be exposed to police brutality". A complete list of such "negative "standards would be in the many hundreds, therefore in the list below, i have not listed the negative standards. The list below emphasizes the minimum material standards because those are the items that are directly impacted by illegal immigration, where population expands far too rapidly for the physical infrastructure of the nation to carry. You may think too much material wealth is listed below but actually far more is not listed. Because something is not listed, it is, in my opinion not absolutely needed. For instance a "paved driveway" is not listed. A paved driveway is not required for family stability. However whatever you think is necessary but is actually not listed, I probably have missed, so please comment. There are probably many social standards that also should be put in here but such standards usually do not require increased industrial production, therefore they are left out. Mr. Meier in Contact 251 mentioned the Scientists Service Agreement. Well, if the entire world could agree on minimum physical wealth standards then all the world would have to do is hand this list or a list of this type over to the most educated scientists in the World and then submit to working in the factories they organize, such wealth could be easily achieved, (with worldwide conception control of course). The list below will be more readable if you add lines between paragraphs. Please post all comments. Best to all Mike Hooten | ||
Mike_hooten Member Post Number: 21 Registered: 11-2006 |
PROPOSED MINIMUM STANDARD OF WEALTH TO BE MAINTAINED FOR EACH EARTH HUMAN FAMILY WORLDWIDE: Minimum Housing Standard Two acres of land for each Family holding a not smaller than 2000 sq. ft home, with at least 1 and 1/2 bathrooms; fully heated and air conditioned that uses no fossil fuels for energy, well lighted and ventilated, with a garage, and free of pests. .If father is over 6 feet tall then at least 10 foot ceilings in the house. Must be in a neighborhood reasonably free of crime. Must have a granny home behind the home for grandparents when they cannot take care of themselves. This house should not be built with serf labor of any kind. Minimum Food Standards: Only organically grown fruits and vegetables to be consumed by the Family, grown without slavery or serfdom; grown and transported without fossil fuels. Only organically fed animals to be consumed by the Family, those animals raised and slaughtered in a humane fashion. Minimum Medical Care Standards All members of the Family must be able to consume an almost-state-of-the-art medical services, including full dental coverage and full prescription benefits. Either marijuana, cocaine, heroin and alcohol are legalized to consume at legitimate establishments (Amsterdam) or else are fully eradicated by the state, not to be controlled by the Mafia. Full financial benefits in case of sickness or injury by wage-earners. Full home-care or nursing home privileges when necessary for any aged member of the Family. Full Hospice services available. Minimum Educational Standards For All Members of The Family: Where, for children, good public, private or parochial schools and good teachers are close-by. Where primary school children are in a school either in the factory or office where father or mother work or in a school within walking distance from either father or mothers work so that mother and father can have meals with their own children. Where in the schools all basic curriculums are maintained; health, bacteriology, histology, economics, business, construction, engineering and law courses being required at all ages. Minimum Educational Standards For Young Adults: Any and all higher education fully accessible by any family member at any time. (Family member responsible for the commute). All educational institutions must work around wage-earners schedules. After youngest child has graduated from high school, mothers are encouraged to and are able to continue their formal education in a local community college, college or university. Minimum Transport Standards: Two automobiles for each Family, neither of which use fossil fuels for energy. Minimum Vacation Standard: A one-week Family vacation every 5 years to a foreign country. A two-week Family vacation every year to any location within 1000 miles of home; either 2 one-week vacations or one two-week vacation. A 3-day weekend once every month for a family mini-trip. Minimum Hobbies. Enough money left over for both father and mother to have small hobbies completely of their own choosing. Minimum Standards of Non-Work Time: Where children work no more than one half-hour per week for each year of their age after the age of 6 and no more than one hour per week for each year of their age from 12-18. For Mother: Where mother stays in the home for all children under 6, and from 6-12 only works when children are in school. For Father: A 6 month sabbatical available with a one year notice to his employer for father from his work, one time between 20 and 30 years old, one time between 30 and 40 and one time between 40 and 50. Where fathers 45 hour per week work schedule will reduce by 1 hour per week for each year from 40 to 65 years old so that by 65 years old father is working at an outside job no more than 20 hours per week. Father should continue to work part-time for as long as he possibly can. Minimum Social Standards: Where male/female standards of conduct in marriage are defined and a "thorough clearing up of the facts with regard to belonging to each other". (Semjase commenting about Erran marriage.) Where teens have a clean and safe non-religious, non-alcohol place to meet and mix socially. Where young adults have a clean and safe non-religious, non-alcoholic place to meet and mix socially. Where conception-control is available everywhere to everyone. Where people aren’t forced to partake in any religion. The above listed housing, food, medical, educational, transport, standards are produced by fathers and mothers working in factories and offices to make money to pay for them. They must be paid for without national or personal borrowing except perhaps for land costs. Minimum Health and Safety Standards of The Workplace: Where father works not more than 45 hours per week and mother works not more than 35 hours per week until child bearing age at which time she does not work at all until children are in primary school and then only while children are in school. Work is in a heated and air-conditioned and clean and safe factory or office with zero volatile organic compounds(VOCS) in the air and zero inorganic compounds(asbestos)in the air , where no exploitation or slavery of any kind is in place, where one class of people is exploited for the benefit of another. Outside-of-factory moderators can be brought in by either party to challenge wrongful termination and where at least 6 months of notice must be given from either side for terminations. Another gainful opportunity should be available nearby offering at least 70% of fathers previous salary. Work and work skills are achievable by normal study and a normal workload by all the population except the mentally handicapped. Where 80% of the plants and animals of the entire Earth are left alone. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The above standards will naturally slowly develop if the following three structures are maintained: 1) A relatively free marketplace forcing competition between vendors. 2) A reduced governmental burden. 3) Conception-control population control, where no family has more than 2 children. This will allow for businesses to make better and better goods for the existing population rather than to constantly be building infrastructure for an expanding population. | ||
Rarena Member Post Number: 192 Registered: 10-2005 |
Hi Matt, Just read your reply. No reason to ever be sorry my friend. This is only a discussionforum. The people who write articles such as the Scientific American article you referenced are are probably not aware overpopulation is occuring exponentially and we are lucky enough to have the wisdom to know it. Getting others to find out is part of the mission. | ||
Rarena Member Post Number: 211 Registered: 10-2005 |
This is concerning the new supposedly habitable planet recently "discovered" in the Wolf system These thumb twiddling "believers" feel God is finally avenging himself on the non-believers... Their apathetic "solution"... is to sit back... watch the world ruined by overpopulation via poisons, religion, concrete, asphalt and bombs... Their feeble and erroneous defense is that, there exists the slightest of chances that we have a NEW place to inhabit... in the not too distant future. They may erroneously believe Jesus Christ will come in his UFO and take us all to our salvation in the wolf system!!! This is all BS. If we don't fix it now... and do it right... we will not evolve.... and suffering will continue on this planet or countless lives will be lost. We have to solve the problem of OVERPOPULATION. Stop with the wars and the pseudo-fraternal-financial-territorial disputes that degrade our harmony.  | ||
Jacobus Member Post Number: 15 Registered: 07-2006 |
A simple solution to overpopulation: Eradicate whatever is fueling the whole affair. "Now, what is that?" ,you may ask. Well, for one thing, it's something you may have never expected, The question should actually be: "What fuels the fire of lust inside a human being?" What causes him to act like a humping hamster? the answer is sweet and short: SUGAR You heard me, sugar is the root of all evil. the fame of the cane, is causing all the pain, so burn all the crops, and let madness be washed away by the rain. peace | ||
Truthseeker Member Post Number: 245 Registered: 03-2003 |
Not according to these guys. http://www.duggarfamily.com | ||
Thomas Member Post Number: 257 Registered: 03-2004 |
Jacobus I have news for you, even though we do eat too much sugar, it is the ONLY fuel that the brain uses so eliminating it completely is not a good idea. Reduction, not elimination, is the key... | ||
Cpl Member Post Number: 250 Registered: 08-2004 |
The body can produce all the sugar it needs from the starch present in nuts and grains, and the natural sugars from fruits and some vegetables. According to a number of doctors and nutritionists even these nuts and grains should not be over-consumed or too much sugar will result from the carbohydrate content. There is absolutely no need for any consumption of white sugar, which is a nutritional disaster. Most sugar substitutes are even worse for the body than white sugar but in other ways. This discussion should probably be moved elsewhere. | ||
Francofiori2004 Member Post Number: 28 Registered: 03-2007 |
Overpopulation is caused by laziness: poor people often find a fast way to be helped by society: having a lot of babies, so all around will pity you and help you for the sake of your children. So in order to prevent overpopulation we must prevent laziness and improve dignity and self-responsability of poor people. An amazing invention for natural health: WWW.GETPERFECTBODY.COM | ||
Hector Member Post Number: 264 Registered: 04-2006 |
Do not forget that people commonly associate concepts such as fertility or sexual perfomance to engendering new offspring.Traditions, religions, ancient cults and false teachings are responsible for that. He who is able to procreate without limit is considered to be a "macho", "fertile", "full of energy".The only limit for them is money to raise the children.If they cannot raise them these guys give their kids out for adoption.Horrendous concepts, indeed. Then there are the religions with their bashing of contraceptive means (Today Rat-Zinger is speaking crap about anti-abortion methods in Brazil), telling everybody that "protecting life" is the most important thing.But they only protect the lifes of those not born yet.Who protects the lifes of the living ones? Finally overpopulation provides slaves to governments and corporations, people without resources who are forced to work more than 14 hours a day, China as an example.The overpopulation situation, accepted as inevitable, makes this slaves of the new era think that it is their fate, their destiny to be slaves or workers without dignity, as their society is divided in two categories, "lords" and " servants".Without overpopulation, "servants" are redundant, because there is enough of everything for everybody (abundance). Just a few thoughts | ||
Jacobus Member Post Number: 16 Registered: 07-2006 |
(back from road trip) there was this super size birthday cake right, it had too much icing on it. So, there was a little bit of a problem on our hands. Who was gonna eat all the off cut icing? "Luckily" Johnny agreed and devoured all the bits, and in a flash it was all finished. Problem solved, right? 20 minutes later, there was Johnny, all over his girlfriend, and acting kind of funny, as if the hormones had just set in. So, was this sudden inconsistency in behaviour just a coincidence? Just a thought | ||
Truthseeker Member Post Number: 251 Registered: 03-2003 |
Sounds more like someone intoxicated with alcohol to me. | ||
Jacobus Member Post Number: 17 Registered: 07-2006 |
Well, it was still relatively early in the evening, before the heavy drinking started. But sure, Johnny definitely already had a couple beers in by that time. Alcohol and sugar, you know , two wrongs don't make a right. But this strange behaviour I have seen in people who haven't had a drop to drink, many times over. It is always the little things that make the biggest difference. Why not replace sugar with Stevia? Wouldn't that already be a major improvement? Like what was said earlier, "There is absolutely no need for any consumption of white sugar". Why do we so passionately defend something that is utterly and completely detrimental to "civilization"?. Why don't we eliminate sugar plantations and replace it with essential vegetables crops? It should be explained to people that sugar is ultimately destroying this beautiful planet of ours, by influencing our fragile way of thinking for the worst. peace  | ||
Kaare Member Post Number: 31 Registered: 03-2003 |
It is unfortunate, but those in power , still push for population increase, as the example below, reported this week shows: Hong Kong should increase its population by more than 40 per cent to 10m to match the power of New York and London as global financial centres, according to Donald Tsang, its chief executive. Earlier this year, the government of Singapore, said it wanted to increase its population by a similar percentage from 4.5m to 6.5m over the next decade http://www.ft.com/cms/s/7a85d72e-1a98-11dc-8bf0-000b5df10621.html | ||
Rarena Member Post Number: 242 Registered: 10-2005 |
The religions that claim we should "go forth and multiply" should be ignored. More may be found in Billy's May Brief. http://www.figu.org/ch/files/downloads/bulletin/figu_offener_brief_01.pdf?download Larry Driscoll has a plan to lower the world's population based on: land acreage, national population and total population. |
